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How about Kenny Baker getting some love for the development of Broughton. I  think he just played the best game of his life and two years ago I wondered if he would eventually transfer. He totally dom

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-2 more DTs and possibly a 3rd if it is the right one.  -Top end LB or bust -Hilson and Terry are in unless something weird happened recently. -If they take K Johnson, it is strictly to

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21 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

I was more worried last year than I'll be this year. Have 4-5 EDGE players that will be completely fine. DT is more of a question mark, but we had two guys transfer in this year that have given us the snaps and run protection we need, so I am confident in getting at least one next year too. Still got plenty of development guys waiting to get their moment to shine like January and Mitchell. Them playing more as the season progresses gives me hope that they'll be ready for big minutes next year. 

lol wut.

If we only get one solid DT in the portal, we will be screwed. We got good production from Lole and Norton this year as backups. Collins and Broughton took huge steps forward and are the stars of the IDL.  There's nobody on the roster ready to have anywhere near the year that Collins and Broughton had. You cited Mitchell who very well may not be on the roster next year. January looks ready to contribute, but who knows if he's ready to start. After that, it's bleak. If all we get is one guy like Lole plus what we have currently on the roster, then we will be in a terrible spot at DT. 

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lol wut.

If we only get one solid DT in the portal, we will be screwed. We got good production from Lole and Norton this year as backups. Collins and Broughton took huge steps forward and are the stars of the IDL.  There's nobody on the roster ready to have anywhere near the year that Collins and Broughton had. You cited Mitchell who very well may not be on the roster next year. January looks ready to contribute, but who knows if he's ready to start. After that, it's bleak. If all we get is one guy like Lole plus what we have currently on the roster, then we will be in a terrible spot at DT. 

To be fair, Collins was actually highly graded by PFF last year. He was more of a known commodity. Broughton was a pleasant surprise. There is also another big difference. Broughton and Collins are 5 year players. That played a lot of football. That is not the case for next year. Savea is the only one that fits the mold of an older player with a lot of snaps (assumes he is red shirting like OnTexas has said). Texas needs at least 2 DTs next year. Its much harder to bet on underclassmen to make big jumps on the LOS. 

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42 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

To be fair, Collins was actually highly graded by PFF last year. He was more of a known commodity. Broughton was a pleasant surprise. There is also another big difference. Broughton and Collins are 5 year players. That played a lot of football. That is not the case for next year. Savea is the only one that fits the mold of an older player with a lot of snaps (assumes he is red shirting like OnTexas has said). Texas needs at least 2 DTs next year. Its much harder to bet on underclassmen to make big jumps on the LOS. 

Unless something has changed very recently, they don’t want Savea back unless they’re desperate. 

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Lulz ... 

 

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Texas NIL did not make anything resembling a 7 figure offer for Phillips. Shipp’s a proven liar and this reads like more nonsense or someone lying to him in Kelly’s world. Raymond isn’t exactly a high character guy, so that could well be the source. Just bullshit. 

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Isn’t the idea of having to choose because of finite dollars exactly what it means to not be able to match?  Obviously Texas has to make the same decisions but let’s not try to talk around what is happening. Couldn’t afford to match without losing something  elsewhere. 

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Or, he saw that he could do the same thing he wanted to go to LSU for at his preferred school. The secondary is a big reason why the Texas defense is balling out. Believing he could play and be developed at corner at his preferred school is huge. 
LSU’s secondary and defense are still looking for answers after getting gashed multiple times this year. 

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The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga

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When the University of Michigan football team’s boosters announced on Nov. 21 that they had flipped the No. 1 high school quarterback in the country from Louisiana State to Ann Arbor, it sent shock waves through the sport.

The on-field implications were only a part of the surprise. Just as stunning was how the Wolverines had pulled it off: with the help of a surprise donation from the world’s fourth-richest man, tech billionaire Larry Ellison. The strangest part was that Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, had no known connection to the school.

 

But in recent days, it has emerged that Ellison does have a close, previously unknown link to Michigan after all. Out of nowhere, a statement from a Michigan booster group known as the Champions Circle singled out Ellison and Jolin, whom the group identified as his wife, as key players in the school’s pursuit of Bryce Underwood, the top-rated high-school quarterback in the country.

That statement appeared to reveal that Ellison, who divorced his fourth wife more than a decade ago, had remarried. Jolin, meanwhile, had almost no online presence.

Now, a Wall Street Journal investigation has found that Jolin is a 33-year-old also known as Keren Zhu, according to two people familiar with the couple and several public records. And most importantly, she happens to be a Michigan alum.

Keren Zhu, also known as Jolin Zhu, was awarded a bachelor of arts degree in International Studies from Michigan on April 26, 2012, the school confirmed.

 

Three years earlier, a Keren Zhu with the same birth date graduated with a two-year liberal arts degree from Bard College at Simon’s Rock, a tiny school in Great Barrington, Mass.

A Keren Zhu with that birth date also appears in a property record at an address owned by Octopus Holdings, a company owned by Ellison.

Larry Ellison and Jolin didn’t answer requests for comment and representatives at Oracle didn’t comment.

The mystery surrounding Jolin’s identity was the biggest twist in a recruiting saga that ranks among the wildest in recent memory, even by the already absurd standards of college football. It also drew in NFL legend Tom Brady and the disgraced former team staffer at the center of the sign-stealing controversy that overshadowed Michigan’s 2023 national championship. And all of it happened to burst into the open just as unranked Michigan was preparing for the biggest game of its season—Saturday’s stunning upset of No. 2 Ohio State.

“I want to personally thank Larry and his wife Jolin who were instrumental in making this happen,” Nate Forbes, chairman of the Champions Circle booster collective, said in the statement.

 
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A coup of this scale was a rare cause for celebration in what had been a frustrating season for the defending national champions. Underwood, a five-star, 6-foot-4 quarterback from nearby Belleville High School, had been committed to LSU since January after Tigers boosters had promised him a sizable payout under new rules that allow college players to be paid for their name, image, and likeness.

 

Michigan, a bastion of college tradition, had been slow to embrace the sport’s new highest-bidder era. (Archrival Ohio State had no such trepidation, confirming that its 2024 football roster was getting $20 million.)

That changed when it emerged that Michigan had a deep-pocketed booster that fans hadn’t been aware of. Larry Ellison and Jolin began supporting Michigan’s collective “long before” the recruitment of Underwood heated up in recent weeks, according to a person familiar with the matter.

With Ellison on board, Michigan decided to re-up its interest in the player who seemed born to quarterback the Wolverines. In early September, following a loss to Texas, people close to the Michigan program began a full-court press to land Underwood.

First, he heard from coaches. Then, Michigan football’s general manager, Sean Magee, invited Bryce and his father, Jay, to join a videoconference. Also on the line were Ellison and Jolin.

 

In the Zoom call, the billionaire recounted his upbringing on the South Side of Chicago. He told Underwood that his birthplace didn’t determine his station in life, so long as he worked hard and made sacrifices. Jolin spoke about her time as a Michigan student and her desire to put the Wolverines back on top.

“It wasn’t really a pitch,” Jay Underwood said.

The Underwoods were a little surprised to discover that Ellison—who attended Illinois and the University of Chicago, but didn’t graduate—was now pulling for Michigan.

“I guess happy wife, happy life,” Jay Underwood said.

But soon the Underwood family found themselves talking to a much more famous Wolverine. A few days afterward, Bryce was in the car with his parents when his phone rang with a FaceTime call.

 
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“Dad, it’s Tom,” he told his father.

‘Tom who?’ Jay Underwood replied.

“Tom Brady.”

“Well, s—t, answer the phone, son!”

The former Michigan quarterback and seven-time Super Bowl champion talked up his alma mater and offered words of encouragement to the teen.

The calls with Brady escalated to three or four times per week, often before school. “That was another incentive—to be able to have the opportunity to talk to one of the greatest of all time on the daily, whenever you feel like giving him a call,” Jay Underwood said.

 

Meanwhile, Michigan fans started showing up at Belleville High School football games on Friday nights with signs urging Underwood to “Go Blue.”

“I think, personally, it had a big impact with Bryce,” Belleville head coach Calvin Norman says.

As if Underwood’s recruitment wasn’t already weird enough, the most notorious character of the 2023 college football season then entered the picture. In late October, Connor Stalions—the former Michigan analyst who is under investigation by the NCAA for sign-stealing—joined the Belleville High football staff as a volunteer to help the offense.

Although Norman and Jay Underwood said that Stalions didn’t give his quarterback the hard sell on Michigan, the two of them posed for a photo that made waves on social media.

Still, it was all beginning to add up. And by November, Champions Circle broached the topic that is reshaping college football. The collective started discussing dollar amounts with the Underwoods. Jay Underwood said that the money offered by LSU and Michigan was “pretty much even.”

 
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LSU’s offer was widely reported to be $1.5 million per season, though in reality neither school’s collective offered as much as that, according to a person familiar with Underwood’s recruitment.

When Underwood took a late visit to Baton Rouge in November, it appeared that LSU was back in the driver’s seat.

 

But it wasn’t until Belleville’s season ended with a loss in the playoffs that the Underwoods finally had a chance to reflect and discuss their son’s future. In a heart-to-heart with Bryce, his parents encouraged him to reconsider Michigan.

“It’s about the community,” Jay said, “being able to play at home.”

The money didn’t hurt, either. In addition to the amount he receives directly from the Michigan collective, Underwood will also be able to cash in with individual endorsement deals. Altogether, Jay Underwood said he expected his son’s earnings to exceed $15 million during his Michigan career.

The program’s stumbles this season didn’t deter the Underwoods. Bryce is expected to sign a letter of intent to go to Michigan on Wednesday and join the team for practices later this month.

“We see that Michigan is under construction,” Jay said. “And we don’t mind jumping into that.”

—Ryan Felton, Jim Oberman and Elisa Cho contributed to this article.

Write to Rachel Bachman at Rachel.Bachman@wsj.com, Laine Higgins at laine.higgins@wsj.com and Tom Dotan at tom.dotan@wsj.com

 

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9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Unless something has changed very recently, they don’t want Savea back unless they’re desperate. 

Texas NIL did not make anything resembling a 7 figure offer for Phillips. Shipp’s a proven liar and this reads like more nonsense or someone lying to him in Kelly’s world. Raymond isn’t exactly a high character guy, so that could well be the source. Just bullshit. 

Bobby mentioned in the last week that Savea was redshirting to return next year.  What are you hearing?  Can't remember for sure, but I feel like he blew up the line in the spring game on Ewers' interception but that could've been Collins.

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3 hours ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

I could see it, what other DL even looks like an option at this time?

Considering it seems like Malcolm Simpson isn’t going to get the grades, there’s not a ton. Maybe you circle back to Chace Sims to see if he’s receptive but pickings are getting mighty slim.

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Hilson is all over the place fielding offers, which is unfortunate considering what was said regarding much of his recruitment. 
Hope it works out for him

He has had a new favorite every week.  That's not a great sign.

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13 minutes ago, Fondren & Main said:

Bobby mentioned in the last week that Savea was redshirting to return next year.  What are you hearing?  Can't remember for sure, but I feel like he blew up the line in the spring game on Ewers' interception but that could've been Collins.

Gerry said this morning he would be shocked if he remains at Texas. Reading the tealeaves, we aren't interested.

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It's like Phil Knight and Larry Ellison woke up this morning with a vial full of viagra and decided college football was one big pussy, waiting to get fucked. 

Nate Marshall to Michigan, who was pursuing Hilson, who now has brought up Missouri to maximize his bidding offers from Texas and A&M? Lol. I mean why not, they just took Rogers from Missouri, Missouri now has some spare coin and a big ole' desire to fuck A&M. This is fun shit. 

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Undefeated.

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When the University of Michigan football team’s boosters announced on Nov. 21 that they had flipped the No. 1 high school quarterback in the country from Louisiana State to Ann Arbor, it sent shock waves through the sport.

The on-field implications were only a part of the surprise. Just as stunning was how the Wolverines had pulled it off: with the help of a surprise donation from the world’s fourth-richest man, tech billionaire Larry Ellison. The strangest part was that Ellison, the co-founder of Oracle, had no known connection to the school.

 

But in recent days, it has emerged that Ellison does have a close, previously unknown link to Michigan after all. Out of nowhere, a statement from a Michigan booster group known as the Champions Circle singled out Ellison and Jolin, whom the group identified as his wife, as key players in the school’s pursuit of Bryce Underwood, the top-rated high-school quarterback in the country.

That statement appeared to reveal that Ellison, who divorced his fourth wife more than a decade ago, had remarried. Jolin, meanwhile, had almost no online presence.

Now, a Wall Street Journal investigation has found that Jolin is a 33-year-old also known as Keren Zhu, according to two people familiar with the couple and several public records. And most importantly, she happens to be a Michigan alum.

Keren Zhu, also known as Jolin Zhu, was awarded a bachelor of arts degree in International Studies from Michigan on April 26, 2012, the school confirmed.

 

Three years earlier, a Keren Zhu with the same birth date graduated with a two-year liberal arts degree from Bard College at Simon’s Rock, a tiny school in Great Barrington, Mass.

A Keren Zhu with that birth date also appears in a property record at an address owned by Octopus Holdings, a company owned by Ellison.

Larry Ellison and Jolin didn’t answer requests for comment and representatives at Oracle didn’t comment.

The mystery surrounding Jolin’s identity was the biggest twist in a recruiting saga that ranks among the wildest in recent memory, even by the already absurd standards of college football. It also drew in NFL legend Tom Brady and the disgraced former team staffer at the center of the sign-stealing controversy that overshadowed Michigan’s 2023 national championship. And all of it happened to burst into the open just as unranked Michigan was preparing for the biggest game of its season—Saturday’s stunning upset of No. 2 Ohio State.

“I want to personally thank Larry and his wife Jolin who were instrumental in making this happen,” Nate Forbes, chairman of the Champions Circle booster collective, said in the statement.

 
The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga
The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga© Gregory Shamus/Getty Images

A coup of this scale was a rare cause for celebration in what had been a frustrating season for the defending national champions. Underwood, a five-star, 6-foot-4 quarterback from nearby Belleville High School, had been committed to LSU since January after Tigers boosters had promised him a sizable payout under new rules that allow college players to be paid for their name, image, and likeness.

 

Michigan, a bastion of college tradition, had been slow to embrace the sport’s new highest-bidder era. (Archrival Ohio State had no such trepidation, confirming that its 2024 football roster was getting $20 million.)

That changed when it emerged that Michigan had a deep-pocketed booster that fans hadn’t been aware of. Larry Ellison and Jolin began supporting Michigan’s collective “long before” the recruitment of Underwood heated up in recent weeks, according to a person familiar with the matter.

With Ellison on board, Michigan decided to re-up its interest in the player who seemed born to quarterback the Wolverines. In early September, following a loss to Texas, people close to the Michigan program began a full-court press to land Underwood.

First, he heard from coaches. Then, Michigan football’s general manager, Sean Magee, invited Bryce and his father, Jay, to join a videoconference. Also on the line were Ellison and Jolin.

 

In the Zoom call, the billionaire recounted his upbringing on the South Side of Chicago. He told Underwood that his birthplace didn’t determine his station in life, so long as he worked hard and made sacrifices. Jolin spoke about her time as a Michigan student and her desire to put the Wolverines back on top.

“It wasn’t really a pitch,” Jay Underwood said.

The Underwoods were a little surprised to discover that Ellison—who attended Illinois and the University of Chicago, but didn’t graduate—was now pulling for Michigan.

“I guess happy wife, happy life,” Jay Underwood said.

But soon the Underwood family found themselves talking to a much more famous Wolverine. A few days afterward, Bryce was in the car with his parents when his phone rang with a FaceTime call.

 
The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga
The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga© Duane Burleson/Getty Images

“Dad, it’s Tom,” he told his father.

‘Tom who?’ Jay Underwood replied.

“Tom Brady.”

“Well, s—t, answer the phone, son!”

The former Michigan quarterback and seven-time Super Bowl champion talked up his alma mater and offered words of encouragement to the teen.

The calls with Brady escalated to three or four times per week, often before school. “That was another incentive—to be able to have the opportunity to talk to one of the greatest of all time on the daily, whenever you feel like giving him a call,” Jay Underwood said.

 

Meanwhile, Michigan fans started showing up at Belleville High School football games on Friday nights with signs urging Underwood to “Go Blue.”

“I think, personally, it had a big impact with Bryce,” Belleville head coach Calvin Norman says.

As if Underwood’s recruitment wasn’t already weird enough, the most notorious character of the 2023 college football season then entered the picture. In late October, Connor Stalions—the former Michigan analyst who is under investigation by the NCAA for sign-stealing—joined the Belleville High football staff as a volunteer to help the offense.

Although Norman and Jay Underwood said that Stalions didn’t give his quarterback the hard sell on Michigan, the two of them posed for a photo that made waves on social media.

Still, it was all beginning to add up. And by November, Champions Circle broached the topic that is reshaping college football. The collective started discussing dollar amounts with the Underwoods. Jay Underwood said that the money offered by LSU and Michigan was “pretty much even.”

 
The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga
The Billionaire, His Mystery Wife and College Football’s Wildest Recruiting Saga© Gregory Shamus/Getty Images

LSU’s offer was widely reported to be $1.5 million per season, though in reality neither school’s collective offered as much as that, according to a person familiar with Underwood’s recruitment.

When Underwood took a late visit to Baton Rouge in November, it appeared that LSU was back in the driver’s seat.

 

But it wasn’t until Belleville’s season ended with a loss in the playoffs that the Underwoods finally had a chance to reflect and discuss their son’s future. In a heart-to-heart with Bryce, his parents encouraged him to reconsider Michigan.

“It’s about the community,” Jay said, “being able to play at home.”

The money didn’t hurt, either. In addition to the amount he receives directly from the Michigan collective, Underwood will also be able to cash in with individual endorsement deals. Altogether, Jay Underwood said he expected his son’s earnings to exceed $15 million during his Michigan career.

The program’s stumbles this season didn’t deter the Underwoods. Bryce is expected to sign a letter of intent to go to Michigan on Wednesday and join the team for practices later this month.

“We see that Michigan is under construction,” Jay said. “And we don’t mind jumping into that.”

—Ryan Felton, Jim Oberman and Elisa Cho contributed to this article.

Write to Rachel Bachman at Rachel.Bachman@wsj.com, Laine Higgins at laine.higgins@wsj.com and Tom Dotan at tom.dotan@wsj.com

 

I love this woman.  Living the life that are unimaginable for many and all she wants is a QB to save their recruiting.  I guarantee you she posts on some UM message board. 

 

How can you not love College Football?

 

 

 

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I love this woman.  Living the life that are unimaginable for many and all she wants is a QB to save their recruiting.  I guarantee you she posts on some UM message board. 

 

How can you not love College Football?

 

 

 

I can make a pretty good case if you're an Aggie. 

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CJ Vogel

 

We are one day out from what will likely end up being a marathon of a day.

Our @Gerry Hamilton has done a tremendous job of setting the table for what the recruiting world is looking like in regards to Texas at the moment. If you have yet to check out his post from this morning and the recruiting percentages, do so before moving forward.

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On the topic of 5-star ATH Michael Terry III, this recruitment has felt very similar to that of Kobe Black's from a year ago. Texas has been a leader for Terry for a few months and a decision date has continued to linger on and on.

I have received additional confirmation that Oregon is looking to make a play to sway the decision back in their favor. Terry has not been to Oregon since late July, meaning he did not see a game at Autzen Stadium during the 2024 season. Terry did, however, visit two games in Austin this season where he was enamored by the stadium atmosphere following the Georgia game in mid-October.

Oregon's surge here also means there is a bit of a fade from Nebraska, who just fired its wide receivers coach Monday afternoon. This is also notable because there was a key player or two in the Terry camp that had previously been nudging in the direction of the Cornhuskers. Texas continues to have the advantage in proximity and the length of their pursuit here. Still lean Texas.

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Now for five-star Michael Fasusi.

To be upfront about Fasusi, I have long believed he would be a Sooner for as long as Bill Bedenbaugh was in Norman. That continues to be where my mind leans at the moment, but there remains fluidity with the Sooners' coaching staff after hiring Arbuckle to be the offensive coordinator from Washington State.

I have swung this recruitment to a Texas vs. Oklahoma battle for the final 24 hours. This was even prior to the addition of Lamont Rogers for Texas A&M as well. At the end of the day, it would come as no surprise to me if Fasusi remained committed to Oklahoma, but Texas is working hard to pull off the flip after the departure of John Mills from the 2025 class.

With the mention of Mills, a possible addition of Fasusi lessens the possibility of Nick Brooks looking around late in the cycle as well. Previously, that had been something floated as a concern if Texas' OL grew to six.

Brooks is expected to participate in the signing day festivities at Grayson High School tomorrow at 1:30 p.m. CST.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

Gerry is reporting that Oregon, with Phil Knight personally involved, has made a huge offer to Michael Terry. Awesome.

I believed two years ago that the B1G screwed up by giving Oregon a home. 
 
UT and USC bring new competition to a conference, sure. They also bring new recruiting territories. And huge viewerships. 
 
Oregon brings none of that. They get their recruits in other areas, because they don’t have enough in Oregon.
 

The B1G could have let them wither in a lesser conference, and lost nothing. But they let them join and they use that Nike money to pluck top recruits from other areas. 

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