Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[SydneyCarton 48497]

2 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Fun.

You don't think someone can buy fun for 225 billion dollars unless it's an NFL team?? 

Also, if you're worth 225 billion dollars, how is owning an NFL team a hassle if you hire people to run it for you? 

[IDIOTsavant 8555]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

You don't think someone can buy fun for 225 billion dollars unless it's an NFL team?? 

Also, if you're worth 225 billion dollars, how is owning an NFL team a hassle if you hire people to run it for you? 

 

[Getafix 29085]

 

Couple of interesting notes from 247:

 

🙂

 

 

From the short note below re: the mystery flip:

- SEC commit

- position of need (likely DL?)

- think we get him

Sounds like Chace Sims?

 

 

[Wulaw Horn 19298]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

You don't think someone can buy fun for 225 billion dollars unless it's an NFL team?? 

Also, if you're worth 225 billion dollars, how is owning an NFL team a hassle if you hire people to run it for you? 

I edited my post while you were responding- if you note I was talking about Billionaires in general when I said 10 figure net worth (or 11 or 12) so for some people it would be affordability (1B is enough to drop gobs of money on being defacto owner of a college team but not enough to buy an NFL team), as well as it being a major bitch to actually buy an NFL team, when it comes up for sale, and then get approved by the other owners.

As far as the hassle of owning an NFL team you become the public face of a city's aspirations and hopes and dreams, and you can't buy your way into a title because it's a salary cap league.  Maybe he doesn't want the notoriety. Maybe he doesn't want to be motherfucked by everyone in town when his team goes 5-12. Maybe a bunch of different reasons. The fact of the matter is though- he doesn't own an NFL team and he is playing sugar daddy to  an NCAA team so I'm sure he has his reasons for that- even if they might not be obvious to either of us.  Maybe he's like Saban and he's more interested in playing a rigged game? I have no idea. But it's something I've speculated off line would happen for a couple years now- Billionaires that can't get into the professional sports ownership world becoming "defacto" owners of collegiate programs. 

[Texasrocks 2206]

8 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

you might think he’s dumb, but he’s a very bright guy.

Username checks out?

[texifornia 57471]

Super subtle timing here

 

[SydneyCarton 48497]

5 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I edited my post while you were responding- if you note I was talking about Billionaires in general when I said 10 figure net worth (or 11 or 12) so for some people it would be affordability (1B is enough to drop gobs of money on being defacto owner of a college team but not enough to buy an NFL team), as well as it being a major bitch to actually buy an NFL team, when it comes up for sale, and then get approved by the other owners.

As far as the hassle of owning an NFL team you become the public face of a city's aspirations and hopes and dreams, and you can't buy your way into a title because it's a salary cap league.  Maybe he doesn't want the notoriety. Maybe he doesn't want to be motherfucked by everyone in town when his team goes 5-12. Maybe a bunch of different reasons. The fact of the matter is though- he doesn't own an NFL team and he is playing sugar daddy to  an NCAA team so I'm sure he has his reasons for that- even if they might not be obvious to either of us.  Maybe he's like Saban and he's more interested in playing a rigged game? I have no idea. But it's something I've speculated off line would happen for a couple years now- Billionaires that can't get into the professional sports ownership world becoming "defacto" owners of collegiate programs. 

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:



He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

Edited 17 hours ago by SydneyCarton

[HenryJames 66357]

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

[texifornia 57471]

A bit late to the punch on Kellen Wiley

 

[Bevo14 8455]

8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:



He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

Fun fact: I dated a chick briefly a few years ago that got her PhD at MIchigan. She only came to the US for grad school, knew nothing about football prior, but was a die hard Michigan football fan. Knew their roster inside out and a lot about football in general.

Edited 17 hours ago by Bevo14

[Gene Parmesan 4027]

1 minute ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

Inflation has really affected us all.

[UncleSonny 6676]

2 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

[texifornia 57471]

1 minute ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

I'd be aghast at you pooh-poohing a really cute, smart Asian girl, but I've seen the lower-tier CMA award host types this board drools over so I can see the disconnect.

[Wulaw Horn 19298]

1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:



He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

Cool. I responded to someone talking generally about billionaires and you made it specific. That woman is hot but I’m sure he has had hotter or could have had hotter if he wanted.  Him being sugar daddy to her, Michigan or anything else he does is personalized version of fun for him. I’m sure he has his reasons.
my general point is this- being involved in NIL at a high level is a toy for someone with a huge net worth.  It has obvious fun benefits for the right person. It’s not a surprise that this is a toy lots of people want to associate with if they have the money, and the cost of that toy is less than ownership of a pro franchise with less work associated with it. 
I’m just grateful we have people willing to do the heavy lifting on one side, and that y’all helped set up a conduit for crowd funding to do work on another level. 

[Michael Knight 13063]

4 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

[Pato del Muerto 52958]

Maybe he wasn’t looking for someone to only love him for a short time

[DixonHur 11678]

6 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

Or this...

Take your pick

[Hank_Hill 19082]

5 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I'd be aghast at you pooh-poohing a really cute, smart Asian girl, but I've seen the lower-tier CMA award host types this board drools over so I can see the disconnect.

Counterpoint: You just know she fricks like plywood tho*
 

 

 

 

very much still wood*

 

 

 

Edited 17 hours ago by Hank_Hill

[Firemans4Horn 18331]

7 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

 

 

[BruceVonClaude 225]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:



He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

I choose to believe the conversation went something like this:

Ellison: What do you want for Christmas? Bugatti? Gucci Lawn? Hope Diamond?

Wife: No thanks, I'll take the #1 qb, a top EDGE, and a left tackle

Ellison: Hail to the victors

 

 

[Tex-19 2902]

34 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I've been saying this for 5 years that it would and could and should happen. It's insanely hard and expensive to buy a professional sports team.  If you wanted to drop 20M a year you would basically be the sugar daddy of all sugar daddies as it relates to athletics at a university. Like- total and complete access- coach doesn't take a shit without letting you know about it first blah blah blah.  You could get like 95% of the perks of owning a sports team with like 50% of the hassle at like 1/100ths of the cost.  It's a logical decision for a guy whose net worth is 10 figures that's a big sports fan, and it's a no brainer for someone with an 11 or 12 figure net worth.  

I mean there is one pretty big difference...you actually OWN an NFL team and the heavy profits and value appreciation that come with it. It's a legit financial investment on top of the perks.

In CFB you get what...access and the chance to cheer along like any Joe Schmo? You aren't recovering a dime of what you spend.

So I'd actually disagree. If I were a hundred-billionaire I'd have much more interest in an NFL team

[Gut Wagon 8145]

8 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I'd be aghast at you pu-puing a really cute, smart Asian girl....

Preferred nomenclature 

[DixonHur 11678]

2 minutes ago, BruceVonClaude said:

I choose to believe the conversation went something like this:

Ellison: What do you want for Christmas? Bugatti? Gucci Lawn? Hope Diamond?

Wife: No thanks, I'll take the #1 qb, a top EDGE, and a left tackle

Ellison: Hail to the victors

 

 

I suspect that next year around this time she'll be asking for a new coach

[mwaadeeb 1289]

7 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Maybe he wasn’t looking for someone to only love him for a short time

This is the kind of racism I can get behind.

[Davis Lane 5859]

12 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:



He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

[SydneyCarton 48497]

9 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

Come on. Motherfucker is 80 years old. She looks like a 30 year old Gemma Chan to that guy. 

[LCHorn 2671]

13 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

@Crayon1973 is going to kill you in your sleep.  

[VirginiaLonghorn 4825]

13 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Or this...

Take your pick

Recognize Zuckerberg … who’s the other guy?

[Wulaw Horn 19298]

4 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I mean there is one pretty big difference...you actually OWN an NFL team and the heavy profits and value appreciation that come with it. It's a legit financial investment on top of the perks.

In CFB you get what...access and the chance to cheer along like any Joe Schmo? You aren't recovering a dime of what you spend.

So I'd actually disagree. If I were a hundred-billionaire I'd have much more interest in an NFL team

NFL makes big profits. Baseball and basketball operates at break even if you believe the ownership. Either way you aren’t even talking about operating revenue that a 100B guy would notice in those two sports.  
or, put another way- people are doing it and the group of people that are doing it grows larger every day. So, it obviously makes sense to the right person. 
if I was worth 1B I would go take over the AD at Sam or something and crowd source Surly to run the entire program for shits and giggles. Or, give Sark 10M, get Terry fired, drop 5M there and spread another 5M around the non revenue sports just for my own amusement. I would guess I wouldn’t be the only one here that would find this to be the best use of 2% of their net worth any particular year. 

[Yesh 934]

Remember back when NIL was not to be used as an inducement or be tied to attending a specific school.

[ConferenceRoom 6180]

3 minutes ago, VirginiaLonghorn said:

Recognize Zuckerberg … who’s the other guy?

 

Edited 16 hours ago by ConferenceRoom

[Leanderman 2324]

"Fun fact: I dated a chick briefly a few years ago that got her PhD at MIchigan. She only came to the US for grad school, knew nothing about football prior, but was a die hard Michigan football fan. Knew their roster inside out and a lot about football in general."

Sounds a lot like south Austin's mom actually?

[closetojumping 63580]

30 minutes ago, Getafix said:

 

Couple of interesting notes from 247:

 

🙂

 

 

From the short note below re: the mystery flip:

- SEC commit

- position of need (likely DL?)

- think we get him

Sounds like Chace Sims?

 

 

Zion Williams and Walter Mathis, one, the other, or both, would be the kind of petty shit I could see Sarkisian enjoying. I'm here for it.

29 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I edited my post while you were responding- if you note I was talking about Billionaires in general when I said 10 figure net worth (or 11 or 12) so for some people it would be affordability (1B is enough to drop gobs of money on being defacto owner of a college team but not enough to buy an NFL team), as well as it being a major bitch to actually buy an NFL team, when it comes up for sale, and then get approved by the other owners.

As far as the hassle of owning an NFL team you become the public face of a city's aspirations and hopes and dreams, and you can't buy your way into a title because it's a salary cap league.  Maybe he doesn't want the notoriety. Maybe he doesn't want to be motherfucked by everyone in town when his team goes 5-12. Maybe a bunch of different reasons. The fact of the matter is though- he doesn't own an NFL team and he is playing sugar daddy to  an NCAA team so I'm sure he has his reasons for that- even if they might not be obvious to either of us.  Maybe he's like Saban and he's more interested in playing a rigged game? I have no idea. But it's something I've speculated off line would happen for a couple years now- Billionaires that can't get into the professional sports ownership world becoming "defacto" owners of collegiate programs. 

 

24 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:



He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

Can you two goobers take this shit somewhere else? We are here on Signing Day Eve and Sydney is sending Wulaw spiraling on some ownership/GM fantasy discussion. Good grief.

[SydneyCarton 48497]

2 minutes ago, Yesh said:

Remember back when NIL was not to be used as an inducement or be tied to attending a specific school.

Yeah. Right around the time I remember posters telling us that Bama and LSU didn't cheat with the bag game, or that everyone did the bag game equally. 

I like these times better. 

[Wulaw Horn 19298]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Zion Williams and Walter Mathis, one, the other, or both, would be the kind of petty shit I could see Sarkisian enjoying. I'm here for it.

 

Can you two goobers take this shit somewhere else? We are here on Signing Day Eve and Sydney is sending Wulaw spiraling on some ownership/GM fantasy discussion. Good grief.

It’s only the most topical big picture issue in 2024 recruiting- sources and amounts of money in NIL and what that looks like. 
this might not be the thread for it. I’m out. 

[HenryJames 66357]

22 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I'd be aghast at you pooh-poohing a really cute, smart Asian girl, but I've seen the lower-tier CMA award host types this board drools over so I can see the disconnect.

I went to the Michigan game so I’ve literally seen hotter on campus.

[Pescado_Rojo 19459]

12 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Come on. Motherfucker is 80 years old. She looks like a 30 year old Gemma Chan to that guy. 

The dating pool really opens up when you get to the age that taking off your reading glasses can turn a 5 into an 8. 

[closetojumping 63580]

Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

It’s only the most topical big picture issue in 2024 recruiting- sources and amounts of money in NIL and what that looks like. 
this might not be the thread for it. I’m out. 

That's not what y'all are discussing.

It's not the most topical issue. Where goes are going and who Texas might be losing or flipping are far more topical right now.

Finally, we've discussed the bomber types swooping in and changing everything for years. Knight has been a central discussion item across multiple recruiting cycles. Ellison doesn't change anything and it's to be expected. Texas still has the machine it needs for most situations and those guys aren't taking everyone. The Yellawood guy is no different at Auburn. If Texas ultimately successfully woos Dell or Musk into participating, we're good on that front as well. Nothing new here besides y'all getting silly about your comparisons and disagreements regarding ownership requirements, etc. 

[Tex-19 2902]

Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

[Hornlover 8860]

31 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I'd be aghast at you pooh-poohing a really cute, smart Asian girl, but I've seen the lower-tier CMA award host types this board drools over so I can see the disconnect.

I can't tell if you're making fun of Reba McEntire or Peyton Manning.

[runthebone 8172]

36 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

Well, $112.5B

[Funk Doctor Spock 12833]

19 hours ago, Getafix said:

 

 

 

 

Welcome home, son. 

 

[Wulaw Horn 19298]

8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

That's not what y'all are discussing.

It's not the most topical issue. Where goes are going and who Texas might be losing or flipping are far more topical right now.

Finally, we've discussed the bomber types swooping in and changing everything for years. Knight has been a central discussion item across multiple recruiting cycles. Ellison doesn't change anything and it's to be expected. Texas still has the machine it needs for most situations and those guys aren't taking everyone. The Yellawood guy is no different at Auburn. If Texas ultimately successfully woos Dell or Musk into participating, we're good on that front as well. Nothing new here besides y'all getting silly about your comparisons and disagreements regarding ownership requirements, etc. 

Like I said- I'm out on this for now. Signing day eve wasn't probably the best time for it. I'm happy for the class we are about to sign, whatever it ends up being. Thanks again for the work you put into making it happen. 

[cmontexas 3307]

1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

What do you think a college or NFL team, in regards to perks, would buy for someone that they cannot already buy for 225 billion dollars? Power? Influence? Young Pussy? 

Sports teams are how we knight people in this country

/quote from Billions

[LCHorn 2671]

8 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

I feel the same-I’m pro-Michigan to the extent that it’s not hindering excellence at The University and fucks over those couch terrorists in Ohio.  

[Park Gothic 5165]

15 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

For real, fuck Ohio State. Bunch of cooler popping snow-gooners. From what I've seen, the difference between the Michigan fanbase and the OSU fanbase is night and day. 

[Sgt Hulk 14112]

52 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

That’s what $225b gets you for a wife?

Umm yeah. Asian wife > basic white American wife 

[Hank_Hill 19082]

8 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I feel the same-I’m pro-Michigan to the extent that it’s not hindering excellence at The University and fucks over those couch terrorists in Ohio.  

I wish Ellison was supporting Florida. 

[SimkinsMan 4512]

17 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

While I agree in theory, this class will be juniors when we catch Michigan in Austin in 2027. I know, it don't make a shit. But still.

[Burt Macklin 19141]

49 minutes ago, texifornia said:

I'd be aghast at you pooh-poohing a really cute, smart Asian girl, but I've seen the lower-tier CMA award host types this board drools over so I can see the disconnect.