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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

You don't think someone can buy fun for 225 billion dollars unless it's an NFL team?? 

Also, if you're worth 225 billion dollars, how is owning an NFL team a hassle if you hire people to run it for you? 

I edited my post while you were responding- if you note I was talking about Billionaires in general when I said 10 figure net worth (or 11 or 12) so for some people it would be affordability (1B is enough to drop gobs of money on being defacto owner of a college team but not enough to buy an NFL team), as well as it being a major bitch to actually buy an NFL team, when it comes up for sale, and then get approved by the other owners.

As far as the hassle of owning an NFL team you become the public face of a city's aspirations and hopes and dreams, and you can't buy your way into a title because it's a salary cap league.  Maybe he doesn't want the notoriety. Maybe he doesn't want to be motherfucked by everyone in town when his team goes 5-12. Maybe a bunch of different reasons. The fact of the matter is though- he doesn't own an NFL team and he is playing sugar daddy to  an NCAA team so I'm sure he has his reasons for that- even if they might not be obvious to either of us.  Maybe he's like Saban and he's more interested in playing a rigged game? I have no idea. But it's something I've speculated off line would happen for a couple years now- Billionaires that can't get into the professional sports ownership world becoming "defacto" owners of collegiate programs. 

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5 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I edited my post while you were responding- if you note I was talking about Billionaires in general when I said 10 figure net worth (or 11 or 12) so for some people it would be affordability (1B is enough to drop gobs of money on being defacto owner of a college team but not enough to buy an NFL team), as well as it being a major bitch to actually buy an NFL team, when it comes up for sale, and then get approved by the other owners.

As far as the hassle of owning an NFL team you become the public face of a city's aspirations and hopes and dreams, and you can't buy your way into a title because it's a salary cap league.  Maybe he doesn't want the notoriety. Maybe he doesn't want to be motherfucked by everyone in town when his team goes 5-12. Maybe a bunch of different reasons. The fact of the matter is though- he doesn't own an NFL team and he is playing sugar daddy to  an NCAA team so I'm sure he has his reasons for that- even if they might not be obvious to either of us.  Maybe he's like Saban and he's more interested in playing a rigged game? I have no idea. But it's something I've speculated off line would happen for a couple years now- Billionaires that can't get into the professional sports ownership world becoming "defacto" owners of collegiate programs. 

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:

WSJ Article re: Mystery Michigan Alum and the Underwood Recruiting Saga | mgoblog

He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

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8 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:

WSJ Article re: Mystery Michigan Alum and the Underwood Recruiting Saga | mgoblog

He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

Fun fact: I dated a chick briefly a few years ago that got her PhD at MIchigan. She only came to the US for grad school, knew nothing about football prior, but was a die hard Michigan football fan. Knew their roster inside out and a lot about football in general.

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1 minute ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:

WSJ Article re: Mystery Michigan Alum and the Underwood Recruiting Saga | mgoblog

He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

Cool. I responded to someone talking generally about billionaires and you made it specific. That woman is hot but I’m sure he has had hotter or could have had hotter if he wanted.  Him being sugar daddy to her, Michigan or anything else he does is personalized version of fun for him. I’m sure he has his reasons.
my general point is this- being involved in NIL at a high level is a toy for someone with a huge net worth.  It has obvious fun benefits for the right person. It’s not a surprise that this is a toy lots of people want to associate with if they have the money, and the cost of that toy is less than ownership of a pro franchise with less work associated with it. 
I’m just grateful we have people willing to do the heavy lifting on one side, and that y’all helped set up a conduit for crowd funding to do work on another level. 

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I'd be aghast at you pooh-poohing a really cute, smart Asian girl, but I've seen the lower-tier CMA award host types this board drools over so I can see the disconnect.

Counterpoint: You just know she fricks like plywood tho*
 

 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:

WSJ Article re: Mystery Michigan Alum and the Underwood Recruiting Saga | mgoblog

He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

I choose to believe the conversation went something like this:

Ellison: What do you want for Christmas? Bugatti? Gucci Lawn? Hope Diamond?

Wife: No thanks, I'll take the #1 qb, a top EDGE, and a left tackle

Ellison: Hail to the victors

 

 

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34 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I've been saying this for 5 years that it would and could and should happen. It's insanely hard and expensive to buy a professional sports team.  If you wanted to drop 20M a year you would basically be the sugar daddy of all sugar daddies as it relates to athletics at a university. Like- total and complete access- coach doesn't take a shit without letting you know about it first blah blah blah.  You could get like 95% of the perks of owning a sports team with like 50% of the hassle at like 1/100ths of the cost.  It's a logical decision for a guy whose net worth is 10 figures that's a big sports fan, and it's a no brainer for someone with an 11 or 12 figure net worth.  

I mean there is one pretty big difference...you actually OWN an NFL team and the heavy profits and value appreciation that come with it. It's a legit financial investment on top of the perks.

In CFB you get what...access and the chance to cheer along like any Joe Schmo? You aren't recovering a dime of what you spend.

So I'd actually disagree. If I were a hundred-billionaire I'd have much more interest in an NFL team

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2 minutes ago, BruceVonClaude said:

I choose to believe the conversation went something like this:

Ellison: What do you want for Christmas? Bugatti? Gucci Lawn? Hope Diamond?

Wife: No thanks, I'll take the #1 qb, a top EDGE, and a left tackle

Ellison: Hail to the victors

 

 

I suspect that next year around this time she'll be asking for a new coach

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12 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:

WSJ Article re: Mystery Michigan Alum and the Underwood Recruiting Saga | mgoblog

He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

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4 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

I mean there is one pretty big difference...you actually OWN an NFL team and the heavy profits and value appreciation that come with it. It's a legit financial investment on top of the perks.

In CFB you get what...access and the chance to cheer along like any Joe Schmo? You aren't recovering a dime of what you spend.

So I'd actually disagree. If I were a hundred-billionaire I'd have much more interest in an NFL team

NFL makes big profits. Baseball and basketball operates at break even if you believe the ownership. Either way you aren’t even talking about operating revenue that a 100B guy would notice in those two sports.  
or, put another way- people are doing it and the group of people that are doing it grows larger every day. So, it obviously makes sense to the right person. 
if I was worth 1B I would go take over the AD at Sam or something and crowd source Surly to run the entire program for shits and giggles. Or, give Sark 10M, get Terry fired, drop 5M there and spread another 5M around the non revenue sports just for my own amusement. I would guess I wouldn’t be the only one here that would find this to be the best use of 2% of their net worth any particular year. 

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"Fun fact: I dated a chick briefly a few years ago that got her PhD at MIchigan. She only came to the US for grad school, knew nothing about football prior, but was a die hard Michigan football fan. Knew their roster inside out and a lot about football in general."

Sounds a lot like south Austin's mom actually?

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30 minutes ago, Getafix said:

 

Couple of interesting notes from 247:

 

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From the short note below re: the mystery flip:

- SEC commit

- position of need (likely DL?)

- think we get him

Sounds like Chace Sims?

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Zion Williams and Walter Mathis, one, the other, or both, would be the kind of petty shit I could see Sarkisian enjoying. I'm here for it.

29 minutes ago, Wulaw Horn said:

I edited my post while you were responding- if you note I was talking about Billionaires in general when I said 10 figure net worth (or 11 or 12) so for some people it would be affordability (1B is enough to drop gobs of money on being defacto owner of a college team but not enough to buy an NFL team), as well as it being a major bitch to actually buy an NFL team, when it comes up for sale, and then get approved by the other owners.

As far as the hassle of owning an NFL team you become the public face of a city's aspirations and hopes and dreams, and you can't buy your way into a title because it's a salary cap league.  Maybe he doesn't want the notoriety. Maybe he doesn't want to be motherfucked by everyone in town when his team goes 5-12. Maybe a bunch of different reasons. The fact of the matter is though- he doesn't own an NFL team and he is playing sugar daddy to  an NCAA team so I'm sure he has his reasons for that- even if they might not be obvious to either of us.  Maybe he's like Saban and he's more interested in playing a rigged game? I have no idea. But it's something I've speculated off line would happen for a couple years now- Billionaires that can't get into the professional sports ownership world becoming "defacto" owners of collegiate programs. 

 

24 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Lets be clear here, Larry Ellison is worth 225 billion dollars, and he knows exactly how to have fun, and the reason for that should be and is completely obvious to all of us:

WSJ Article re: Mystery Michigan Alum and the Underwood Recruiting Saga | mgoblog

He's not playing sugar-daddy to an NCAA team. 

He's just playing a sugar-daddy to his wife. 

Can you two goobers take this shit somewhere else? We are here on Signing Day Eve and Sydney is sending Wulaw spiraling on some ownership/GM fantasy discussion. Good grief.

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2 minutes ago, Yesh said:

Remember back when NIL was not to be used as an inducement or be tied to attending a specific school.

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Yeah. Right around the time I remember posters telling us that Bama and LSU didn't cheat with the bag game, or that everyone did the bag game equally. 

I like these times better. 

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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Zion Williams and Walter Mathis, one, the other, or both, would be the kind of petty shit I could see Sarkisian enjoying. I'm here for it.

 

Can you two goobers take this shit somewhere else? We are here on Signing Day Eve and Sydney is sending Wulaw spiraling on some ownership/GM fantasy discussion. Good grief.

It’s only the most topical big picture issue in 2024 recruiting- sources and amounts of money in NIL and what that looks like. 
this might not be the thread for it. I’m out. 

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It’s only the most topical big picture issue in 2024 recruiting- sources and amounts of money in NIL and what that looks like. 
this might not be the thread for it. I’m out. 

That's not what y'all are discussing.

It's not the most topical issue. Where goes are going and who Texas might be losing or flipping are far more topical right now.

Finally, we've discussed the bomber types swooping in and changing everything for years. Knight has been a central discussion item across multiple recruiting cycles. Ellison doesn't change anything and it's to be expected. Texas still has the machine it needs for most situations and those guys aren't taking everyone. The Yellawood guy is no different at Auburn. If Texas ultimately successfully woos Dell or Musk into participating, we're good on that front as well. Nothing new here besides y'all getting silly about your comparisons and disagreements regarding ownership requirements, etc. 

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Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

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8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

That's not what y'all are discussing.

It's not the most topical issue. Where goes are going and who Texas might be losing or flipping are far more topical right now.

Finally, we've discussed the bomber types swooping in and changing everything for years. Knight has been a central discussion item across multiple recruiting cycles. Ellison doesn't change anything and it's to be expected. Texas still has the machine it needs for most situations and those guys aren't taking everyone. The Yellawood guy is no different at Auburn. If Texas ultimately successfully woos Dell or Musk into participating, we're good on that front as well. Nothing new here besides y'all getting silly about your comparisons and disagreements regarding ownership requirements, etc. 

Like I said- I'm out on this for now. Signing day eve wasn't probably the best time for it. I'm happy for the class we are about to sign, whatever it ends up being. Thanks again for the work you put into making it happen. 

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8 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

I feel the same-I’m pro-Michigan to the extent that it’s not hindering excellence at The University and fucks over those couch terrorists in Ohio.  

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19 hours ago, Tex-19 said:

Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

For real, fuck Ohio State. Bunch of cooler pooping snow-gooners. From what I've seen, the difference between the Michigan fanbase and the OSU fanbase is night and day. 

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17 minutes ago, Tex-19 said:

Steering this somewhat back on track, I will say this: I'm glad it is Michigan getting the Ellison wave and not someone that is more directly competitive with Texas. Can't say I give a shit about Michigan either way and all that talent has to go somewhere, rather it be them than a conference opponent or in-state school. Also it's fun to see them abuse tOSU lol

While I agree in theory, this class will be juniors when we catch Michigan in Austin in 2027. I know, it don't make a shit. But still.

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