Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[Funk Doctor Spock 12415]

God damn. Oregon really fucking our state right now. Usually I hope for aggy and ou to fail, but I've never wanted someone to fail more than Dan Lanning this season. 

Edited July 2 by Spider2YBanana

[Hookem2147 21338]

Maybe I'll end up being dead wrong but I just don't think the juice is worth the squeeze with Jonah Williams. From his position to is he even going to play football or does he like baseball more?

Edited July 2 by Hookem2147

[Elmer_Fudd 22281]

12 minutes ago, Lonestar88 said:

One of the backup guys we didn’t really bother to recruit much, Chace Simms, just committed to aggy.

Yep, he's a guy we probably could have got with a bit of a push.  Looking at the DT offer board, really nobody left available that's uncommitted they we've either heard about or visited.  

[Elmer_Fudd 22281]

The only DL commit we are going to have going into the season will be DJ Sanders.

[Burt Macklin 19038]

21 minutes ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

The only DL commit we are going to have going into the season will be DJ Sanders.

People have to start learning the difference between DL and DT.  We run a 4-2-5. Both DT and DE/edge are DL. We have 3 DL commits in a class of 13 commits right now. 

Edited July 2 by Burt Macklin

[utfan87 408]

43 minutes ago, Spider2YBanana said:

God damn. Oregon really fucking our state right now. Usually I hope for aggy and ou to fail, but I've never wanted someone to fail more than Dan Lanning this season. 

1 commitment from a kid from Texas and that’s from a kid who moved here less than a year ago. I wouldn’t consider that a cause for concern. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 12415]

Just now, utfan87 said:

1 commitment from a kid from Texas and that’s from a kid who moved here less than a year ago. I wouldn’t consider that a cause for concern. 

I was lumping in Sharma because Gerry gave me hope and I wanted him to see badly be in the fold. But yeah, you're right, tho. Still sucks that those dipshits are recruiting lights out right now. 

[DixonHur 11340]

47 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Maybe I'll end up being dead wrong but I just don't think the juice is worth the squeeze with Jonah Williams. From his position to is he even going to play football or does he like baseball more?

Yeah, based on comments from CTJ, it didn't sound like Texas really wanted him, so I doubt there are many tears being shed in Belmont.

[closetojumping 62746]

11 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

Yeah, based on comments from CTJ, it didn't sound like Texas really wanted him, so I doubt there are many tears being shed in Belmont.

Yeah, let that guy go to Oregon. 

Regarding Chase Sims, the decision makers didn’t want him in during the summer visits. Now they’re unlikely to get a visit at all. This shit is getting sadly hilarious. 

[Sgt Hulk 13785]

Yall worry too much.  We are gonna win every game. 56-38.  Fuck a defense 

[campcrunk 2503]

2 hours ago, Sock Monkey said:

I hope it doesn’t come to this, but how would the Coleman twins grade out as DT prospects? (ducks)

If it comes to that, we're in deep, deep shit

[D3zii 3706]

15 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Yall worry too much.  We are gonna win every game. 56-38.  Fuck a defense 

 

yea sounds good til you play a good team with a great defense ex. Georgia, Alabama. 
 

nobody tryna be Oklahoma , 

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

Scipio Tex had a good piece on players growing into DT’s while at Texas. It’s worth a read, but long story short, most high school DE’s should be carrying enough weight as college upperclassmen to play inside. Just get good players with big frames and we’ll be fine. 
 

I’m openly rooting for Jonah Williams to take a bag from Oregon and then take a bigger bag from a MLB team. 

[Helobious 9462]

1 hour ago, Spider2YBanana said:

God damn. Oregon really fucking our state right now. Usually I hope for aggy and ou to fail, but I've never wanted someone to fail more than Dan Lanning this season. 

Oregon’s always gotten some guys from Texas to go up there. LaMichael James, Darron Thomas, Bralon Addison

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

26 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Scipio Tex had a good piece on players growing into DT’s while at Texas. It’s worth a read, but long story short, most high school DE’s should be carrying enough weight as college upperclassmen to play inside. Just get good players with big frames and we’ll be fine. 
 

I’m openly rooting for Jonah Williams to take a bag from Oregon and then take a bigger bag from a MLB team. 

Yeah let’s just hope players grow into DTs.  Solid strategy 

[Newy25 7692]

28 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Yeah let’s just hope players grow into DTs.  Solid strategy 

I was trying to think of the players at Texas that did that. Whaley did that from running back (lol) and Lamar Houston grew into a tackle from end. Who else did that at Texas? 

[ClubWhatever 12145]

2 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I was trying to think of the players at Texas that did that. Whaley did that from running back (lol) and Lamar Houston grew into a tackle from end. Who else did that at Texas? 

Hassan Ridgeway

[skipmcgee 227]

Malcolm Roach went from LB to DE to DT

[Schulz2.0 28960]

8 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I was trying to think of the players at Texas that did that. Whaley did that from running back (lol) and Lamar Houston grew into a tackle from end. Who else did that at Texas? 

[Redneck Mutha 8003]

Henry Shelton?

[Fondren & Main 6725]

10 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I was trying to think of the players at Texas that did that. Whaley did that from running back (lol) and Lamar Houston grew into a tackle from end. Who else did that at Texas? 

Melton.

[IDIOTsavant 8497]

8 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I was trying to think of the players at Texas that did that. Whaley did that from running back (lol) and Lamar Houston grew into a tackle from end. Who else did that at Texas? 

Marcus Tubbs

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52524]

OJ McClintock 

[Newy25 7692]

21 minutes ago, Schulz2.0 said:

He showed up at Texas and played tackle from day one, no? I thought he gained a lot of weight as a senior. 
 

 

16 minutes ago, IDIOTsavant said:

Marcus Tubbs

 

 

I went to high school with him. He played RB and TE at Desoto. Don’t know how I forgot about him. 

Edited July 3 by Newy25

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

So we have maybe 8-9 players over a 30 year stretch? Seems like a fool proof strategy 

[Bevo14 8333]

Jesus fuck, there's plenty of examples of high schoolers growing into monster DTs in college. For shits and giggles lets look at the heights/weights as recruits of the Round 1 and 2 DTs drafted this year:

 

Byron Murphy, 6-1 290 (0.8904 composite)

Ruke Orhorhoro, 6-4 271 (0.8707)

Jer'zhan Newton 6-3 255 (0.8556)

T'vondre Sweat 6-3 249 (0.8774)

Braden Fiske 6-3 240 (0.8299) [OG lulz, maybe one of the Colemans should move to DL]

Maason Smith 6-5 316 (0.9897) 

Kris Jenkins 6-4 239 (0.8815) 

Michael Hall Jr. 6-3 290 (0.9742)

 

Sooooo the only DTs with prototypical size out of high school besides our guy Murphy were taken at the back of the 2nd round. Also note that those two guys were the only blue chip high school prospects in the group.

Edited July 3 by Bevo14

[billfromlaketravis 11516]

36 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

I was trying to think of the players at Texas that did that. Whaley did that from running back (lol) and Lamar Houston grew into a tackle from end. Who else did that at Texas? 

Sweat was a DE as well. I wouldn’t recommend gaining 110 pounds + in 5 years though. 

[Sgt Hulk 13785]

We can just take some back up O line and flip them around  plug the gaps. Profit 

[IDIOTsavant 8497]

4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Sweat was a DE as well. I wouldn’t recommend gaining 110 pounds + in 5 years though. 

 

[Lonestar88 4697]

Sweat was already up to 320 by the time his freshman season started. He was listed as an SDE in high school, but he was recruited with the intent of being a DT from the beginning.

 

As others have stated Henry Melton also made the rare transition from RB to DT. He was a RB on the national championship team, I still remember him bulldozing Louisiana-Lafayette players in the season opener.

[Schulz2.0 28960]

17 minutes ago, Newy25 said:

He showed up at Texas and played tackle from day one, no? I thought he gained a lot of weight as a senior. 

I'm pretty sure Sweat was around 260ish as a senior. 

The whole "grow DTs" came out of a Scipio article on IT from a few days ago. He was talking about taking guys with the frame to add weight and the traits to play DT and using S&C to stack weight on them. 

Edited July 3 by Schulz2.0

[Schulz2.0 28960]

13 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So we have maybe 8-9 players over a 30 year stretch? Seems like a fool proof strategy 

Ta'Quon Graham

[statsman 5472]

Scipio referred back to a study that showed five star DTs have a low “panning out” rate, compared to many other positions (OL is even worse). Considering how expensive they are to sign, paying market rate while loading up on bodies is a questionable strategy. 

[cb866 140]

48 minutes ago, skipmcgee said:

Malcolm Roach went from LB to DE to DT

...and back to LB lol thanks Strong boi

[Sgt Hulk 13785]

Have we tried DMing sark to ask him if he’s gonna recruit any DTs 

[mantis toboggan 850]

I have no problem relying consistently on the portal for DT. Let them develop at smaller programs for a year or two and poach. This past year as a model, I believe will prove to be more than fine. Get solid, proven players and rotate the shit out of them. 

[Junior Bonner 6257]

13 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Have we tried DMing sark to ask him if he’s gonna recruit any DTs 

We got a subcommittee working on an Open Letter… 

[derp 757]

17 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Have we tried DMing sark to ask him if he’s gonna recruit any DTs 

[Rholl 218]

Ok, so are there 8 DT’s on roster now????    How many will run out of eligibility or get drafted after this season?   

Surly they can find a 6 DT rotation for this season!!!!

[BurntOrange&White 39934]

45 minutes ago, statsman said:

Scipio referred back to a study that showed five star DTs have a low “panning out” rate, compared to many other positions (OL is even worse). Considering how expensive they are to sign, paying market rate while loading up on bodies is a questionable strategy. 

What’s the definition of panning out? What is source of study?

[Jimmy Two Times 797]

58 minutes ago, Bevo14 said:

Jesus fuck, there's plenty of examples of high schoolers growing into monster DTs in college. For shits and giggles lets look at the heights/weights as recruits of the Round 1 and 2 DTs drafted this year:

 

Byron Murphy, 6-1 290 (0.8904 composite)

Ruke Orhorhoro, 6-4 271 (0.8707)

Jer'zhan Newton 6-3 255 (0.8556)

T'vondre Sweat 6-3 249 (0.8774)

Braden Fiske 6-3 240 (0.8299) [OG lulz, maybe one of the Colemans should move to DL]

Maason Smith 6-5 316 (0.9897) 

Kris Jenkins 6-4 239 (0.8815) 

Michael Hall Jr. 6-3 290 (0.9742)

 

Sooooo the only DTs with prototypical size out of high school besides our guy Murphy were taken at the back of the 2nd round. Also note that those two guys were the only blue chip high school prospects in the group.

This is a good point, but my concern is we're not getting enough bites at the apple. We're pulling in 1-2 high school recruits per class, so we basically need all of them to hit. 

[MrX 735]

Lamarr Houston’s high school RB tape is hilariously unfair. That dude was a freak. 

[Sock Monkey 722]

1 hour ago, Newy25 said:

I was trying to think of the players at Texas that did that. Whaley did that from running back (lol) and Lamar Houston grew into a tackle from end. Who else did that at Texas? 

IIRC People were saying the same things about Alfred Collins at this point of the recruiting cycle as they are now saying about Lance Jackson. I’ll bet money that Lance Will play inside before he’s done at Texas.

[Fondren & Main 6725]

1 hour ago, BurntOrange&White said:

So we have maybe 8-9 players over a 30 year stretch? Seems like a fool proof strategy 

Redding eventually ate himself into a DT too and he was a LB.

[Hornmatic 246]

3 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What’s the definition of panning out? What is source of study?

I think it’s described here. 
 

 

[Bamboozled73 315]

Savion Red would have been a good candidate for DT too. ..Just another 50-60 lbs. 

Edited July 3 by Bamboozled73

[Hank_Hill 18879]

1 hour ago, mantis toboggan said:

I have no problem relying consistently on the portal for DT. 

Well, for this to work effectively we need to stop striking out on our top DT portal targets. We can’t hire DCs from smaller schools to bring players with them every year….or can we 🧐

[D3zii 3706]

2 hours ago, skipmcgee said:

Malcolm Roach went from LB to DE to DT

I’ll still never forgive Strong for putting players like Roach and Hager at MLB 

[Pato del Muerto 52524]

29 minutes ago, D3zii said:

I’ll still never forgive Strong for putting players like Roach and Hager at MLB 

Mackovic put Aaron Humphrey at mlb

[Funk Doctor Spock 12415]

And this is a lesson on why they were fired