Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[HtownHorn 15235]

1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

What's more frustrating is Corey Raymond's DB groups have been hot garbage for the past several seasons.  Granted, ours wasn't anything to brag about under Joseph until this season, but Phillips committed and flipped during the summer.  Why not just wait and see how things went for both programs during the season, which is clear as day now which one is better.

I mean they weren't good because we didn't have good players. Now we have a 2-deep of good players and magically the secondary is much better.

[D3zii 3939]

6 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Dammit, really hope we don't end up regretting not taking Russell.  His junior film was absurd and his senior season is crazy. 

I remember when this board was saying the same thing with not taking Milroe. 
I think he was a few spots from a five star. 

[TexasRenegade 2610]

1 hour ago, TXRed said:

On3 definitely lets popularity and clicks influence their rankings. It became obvious when they randomly moved Nico ahead of Arch in 2023. 247 is probably guilty of playing favorites as well, ESPN and Rivals are just bad. 

We know On3 and 247 manipulate rankings.  There are years when the talent should disproportionally come from fewer states....yet 5 star numbers tend to distribute uniformly from year to year.  Also, we know that Texas recruits got downgraded after the Strong and Herman evaluation screwups, not sure if we are still getting that treatment, but in Sark's first couple of seasons it was definitely the case.,

[HenryJames 67371]

1 hour ago, satyanash said:

Orogbo Smith and Kaliq Lockett both fell out of the Top 25 nationally. 

Should we still honor their scholarships?

[Napoleon 8834]

12 minutes ago, RabidM said:

Dammit, really hope we don't end up regretting not taking Russell.  His junior film was absurd and his senior season is crazy. 

Lacey will not come close to Russell as a college player, but Russell will have a much better career at Bama than he would have had in Austin due to the QBs in front and behind him at each school.

If we had switched to Russell, we might have no picked up Dia Bell. 

Russell has the potential to be amazing. Lacey doesn’t. 
 

FULL DISCLOSURE: 

I have never watched either player play, or even watched their highlights.

Edited November 18 by Napoleon

[South Austin 53227]

3 minutes ago, Napoleon said:

I have never watched either player play, or even watched their highlights.

You're fully qualified to opine on this thread, and even start your own recruiting website.

[TonyTexas 10774]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

If Kelly gets fired, he will be free to portal even if he signs with them.

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year	Buyout Amount
November 2024	$60.8 million
November 2025	$51.7 million
November 2026	$42.5 million
November 2027	$33.1 million
November 2028	$23.4 million
November 2029	$13.5 million

[kevwun 16438]

This year or next, it's a matter of time.  They're not gonna let him keep losing for 2-3 more years.  They will get desperate and find the money.

[BornAndRaised 12876]

Are the dollars reinvigorated after a vote of confidence from the AD and a win against an LSU team that will finish unranked? Not that these can't be natural flips because FSU is in the shitter, but obviously recruiting is heating up for Florida now.
 

 

[ClubWhatever 12310]

18 minutes ago, kevwun said:

This year or next, it's a matter of time.  They're not gonna let him keep losing for 2-3 more years.  They will get desperate and find the money.

Or he could finally say, This is all the living in Baton Rouge that I can take

[kevwun 16438]

Yeah a negotiated buyout could also happen if everyone is miserable.  They'll find a way to make it happen.  They couldn't afford Orgeron's buyout either and still managed to get rid of him.

Edited November 18 by kevwun

[Pato del Muerto 53509]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

Or he could finally say, This is all the living in Baton Rouge that I can take

He’s researching “Florida accents” already

[satyanash 15610]

24 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year	Buyout Amount
November 2024	$60.8 million
November 2025	$51.7 million
November 2026	$42.5 million
November 2027	$33.1 million
November 2028	$23.4 million
November 2029	$13.5 million

[closetojumping 65430]

LSU is poor and the House case payouts coming down the chute will make them even poorer. There are a whole bunch of schools staring that reality down and they’re not making changes and can’t make changes, including UF, Arkansas, OU, USC and so on. 

Now is not the same at it ever was. Shit has gotten real on the NIL side and House makes that crazier. Places can’t just “find the money”. 

One obvious area ripe for change, and Sexton isn’t going to be able to do a damned thing about it, is coach buyouts. Programs are getting squeezed from all sides and they’re going to value players first. Jimbo Fisher buyouts became the rage and now those things are viewed as toxic. 

[tokamak 6687]

39 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 
 

Year	Buyout Amount
November 2024	$60.8 million
November 2025	$51.7 million
November 2026	$42.5 million
November 2027	$33.1 million
November 2028	$23.4 million
November 2029	$13.5 million

Does grinding on recruits count?

[tokamak 6687]

2 hours ago, satyanash said:

Orogbo Smith

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

[texifornia 59017]

15 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

It's the next "Makuba"

[Chuckie Finster 23080]

27 minutes ago, tokamak said:

Everybody buckle up for 3 to 5 years of a steady stream of this.

Took me a good month after he committed to realize that it wasn't some kid with the last name "Smith-Orogbo."

[Hornius Emeritus 12804]

44 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

LSU is poor and the House case payouts coming down the chute will make them even poorer. There are a whole bunch of schools staring that reality down and they’re not making changes and can’t make changes, including UF, Arkansas, OU, USC and so on. 

Now is not the same at it ever was. Shit has gotten real on the NIL side and House makes that crazier. Places can’t just “find the money”. 

One obvious area ripe for change, and Sexton isn’t going to be able to do a damned thing about it, is coach buyouts. Programs are getting squeezed from all sides and they’re going to value players first. Jimbo Fisher buyouts became the rage and now those things are viewed as toxic. 

House case payouts should be roughly 24 million dollars per power five schools, assuming the 1.65 billion in damages will be divided up equally up between the 69 power five schools.

[TonyTexas 10774]

1 hour ago, kevwun said:

Yeah a negotiated buyout could also happen if everyone is miserable.  They'll find a way to make it happen.  They couldn't afford Orgeron's buyout either and still managed to get rid of him.

There is a big difference between $17M and $61M

[blutow 238]

1 hour ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause.

This would be enough if I was on the jury  

 

[General Specific 3507]

You're fully qualified to opine on this thread, and even start your own recruiting website.

Listen to this man, he’s pre-med!

[Hookem2147 22033]

Fasusi visiting Texas this weekend per OTF.

Going to A&M next weekend 

[LebongJames 1921]

^ This

Edited November 18 by LebongJames

[Hookem2147 22033]

Nahlin put in a RPM for Mbatchou to Texas. 60% confidence.

[billfromlaketravis 11823]

1 hour ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

House case payouts should be roughly 24 million dollars per power five schools, assuming the 1.65 billion in damages will be divided up equally up between the 69 power five schools.

Yep. House is a big reason no P4 coach has been fired yet. 

[Coelenterate Fuccboi 13435]

2 hours ago, TonyTexas said:

Kelly is not getting fired unless they can find cause. 

Cause he sucks isn’t a valid reason?

[D3zii 3939]

29 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Fasusi visiting Texas this weekend per OTF.

Going to A&M next weekend 

[PsychMike 1553]

On 11/16/2024 at 6:39 PM, Funk Doctor Spock said:

We no longer need Phillips since we now hace two 5 star safeties. But Mathis would be great. Williams is meh. 

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

[Funk Doctor Spock 13287]

Just now, PsychMike said:

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

Exactly. For being a "4 star" he doesn't seem to do anything worthy of that ranking. He just kind of seems to be there and nothing more. I mean, I guess if we take 5 DT's I won't complain too much if it's him. I'll let Baker see what he can do with him. But if we don't get him, I won't lose sleep since he'll be processed at LSU. He seems more of a UTSA player to me, but that's just my opinion. 

[utfan87 413]

1 hour ago, PsychMike said:

Agree about Zion Williams. His highlight reel wasn’t impressive. Sure he is an immovable object (wouldn’t hate to see him in short yardage situations) but he doesn’t move around laterally well and seems to spend no time in the backfield. I watched him when he played against Ball a few weeks ago and I didn’t see him have a single impact play. 

Been saying this for a year. Watched him throw shotput. He’s a waste bender with no twitch. Massive frame but will never be a pass rusher. Just a space eater. 

[Hookem2147 22033]

Parker Thune (OU Rivals mod) on Fasusi

“Yeah, he’s expected at Texas this weekend and let’s just say the vibes are not great.

Not great at all.

And needless to say, if he were to decommit, that might have a major ripple effect with this class. He’s too good and too prominent for that not to be the case.

This came as a shock to people in the Switzer Center, too, which is never a good sign.”

[nycHorn 3123]

[Teryor 5005]

At least Venables is gonna go have free time after the LSU game to re-recruit without having to worry about pesky bowl practices

[MH BEVO 1265]

16 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Parker Thune (OU Rivals mod) on Fasusi

“Yeah, he’s expected at Texas this weekend and let’s just say the vibes are not great.

Not great at all.

And needless to say, if he were to decommit, that might have a major ripple effect with this class. He’s too good and too prominent for that not to be the case.

This came as a shock to people in the Switzer Center, too, which is never a good sign.”

[Getafix 29459]

 

 

 

(Edit:  This is from OU 247)

 

 

 

Edited November 19 by Getafix

[Hookem10 876]

no insider here. but I feel like he ends up at aggy if he decommits 

[Hookem2147 22033]

11 minutes ago, Teryor said:

At least Venables is gonna go have free time after the LSU game to re-recruit without having to worry about pesky bowl practices

I was thinking about this the other day, but seeing what coaches do after that final regular-season game will be interesting. With signing day the following Wednesday, there is no way you can do in-home visits for everyone in your class and the guys you are trying to flip like you could in previous years.

[closetojumping 65430]

8 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

no insider here. but I feel like he ends up at aggy if he decommits 

“no insider here” 

No shit?

[BornAndRaised 12876]

So, sorry if this triggers anyone, but I saw Stan Drayton got fired at Temple today, and I'm of the opinion that Choice is looking to move on since he only signed a 1 year extension last spring. 

Were there any sour grapes when he left? Do ya'll think he's someone we'd circle back around to if Choice does move on?

[Radical Larry 28822]

I don’t think Drayton has any eligibility 

[HtownHorn 15235]

48 minutes ago, Teryor said:

At least Venables is gonna go have free time after the LSU game to re-recruit without having to worry about pesky bowl practices

LSU really sucks and might have quit on the season. 

[ClubWhatever 12310]

3 minutes ago, HtownHorn said:

LSU really sucks and might have quit on the season. 

OU really, really sucks and may have quit on not sucking worse

[HtownHorn 15235]

1 minute ago, ClubWhatever said:

OU really, really sucks and may have quit on not sucking worse

It's true, but OU has a good defense and I don't think they have quit. LSU doesn't do anything well.

[Sgt Hulk 14452]

8 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

So, sorry if this triggers anyone, but I saw Stan Drayton got fired at Temple today, and I'm of the opinion that Choice is looking to move on since he only signed a 1 year extension last spring. 

Were there any sour grapes when he left? Do ya'll think he's someone we'd circle back around to if Choice does move on?

You shut your whore mouth 

[Thiefery 5108]

 

[Hookem10 876]

6 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

 

not the thread for this but FUCK CANCER AND KEEP FIGHTING 

[Ricky Butler 2809]

30 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

So, sorry if this triggers anyone, but I saw Stan Drayton got fired at Temple today, and I'm of the opinion that Choice is looking to move on since he only signed a 1 year extension last spring. 

Were there any sour grapes when he left? Do ya'll think he's someone we'd circle back around to if Choice does move on?

Considering they're the only two RB coaches in football, we'd be wise to circle back.

[Bevo 13898]

12 minutes ago, Hookem10 said:

not the thread for this but FUCK CANCER AND KEEP FIGHTING 

If the tweet is accurate, it sounds like the cancer is recurrent and they didn't remove all of the known tumors.

[FCB 57]

4 hours ago, General Specific said:

Listen to this man, he’s pre-med!

I'd feel better if he was in hydraulics