Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[texifornia 59017]

....no shit

 

[futureman 22704]

33 minutes ago, texifornia said:

....no shit

first I've heard of it.

[Dbeasy 15599]

While it’s great to see lsu get punked, I don’t like seeing some rich asshole from michigan flexing his minuscule johnson.

[Hornius Emeritus 12806]

55 minutes ago, texifornia said:

....no shit

 

Does this mean Kellen Willey is in the boat? Is Willey even a linebacker?

[TXpride 606]

10 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

While it’s great to see lsu get punked, I don’t like seeing some rich asshole from michigan flexing his minuscule johnson.

Eh. Underwood is from Michigan. If they plan on being a player in the NIL era, losing him wasn't an option.

[cafe society 2903]

6 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Does this mean Kellen Willey is in the boat? Is Willey even a linebacker?

[Professor Chesney 692]

16 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

While it’s great to see lsu get punked, I don’t like seeing some rich asshole from michigan flexing his minuscule johnson.

Did you like it more over the last decade when rich bayou sleaze lords flexed their miniscule financial muscles for: Jamal Adams, Ed Paris, Eric Monroe, Grant Delpit, K’Lavon Chaisson, and Harold Perkins?  This new reality is way, way better.

It is more defensible when it’s to keep a local star home.  Michigan doesn’t produce many #1 overall prospects.  I would hope and expect that we would do the same in a similar situation.

[texifornia 59017]

9 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:

Does this mean Kellen Willey is in the boat? Is Willey even a linebacker?

No idea who Willey is, but Wiley is a linebacker

[Dbeasy 15599]

Just now, Professor Chesney said:

Did you like it more over the last decade when rich bayou sleaze lords flexed their miniscule financial muscles for: Jamal Adams, Ed Paris, Eric Monroe, Grant Delpit, K’Lavon Chaisson, and Harold Perkins?  This new reality is way, way better.

It is more defensible when it’s to keep a local star home.  Michigan doesn’t produce many #1 overall prospects.  I would hope and expect that we would do the same in a similar situation.

No, it’s the potential for Portnoy to pull a Phil Knight (with obviously far less money, but still enough) and throw tons of money into NIL. A single very rich dude can have a very big impact on Texas recruiting success. 

[SydneyCarton 49510]

24 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

While it’s great to see lsu get punked, I don’t like seeing some rich asshole from michigan flexing his minuscule johnson.

Does it sting more to you than what Phil Knight is doing at Oregon?

 

No? So basically you’re scared of The Landscape. I’m of the opinion this is the world, so we know what we have to deal with. Better than the bag game while Texas holds its nose and ignores reality.

go tell some rich Texas alums their honor is being challenged. But I’m not going to get my panties in a twist about a Michigan alum having to offer a HS kid 10-12 million to stay home. OH NOES TEXAS IS FUCKED!!

Edited November 22 by SydneyCarton

[Dbeasy 15599]

2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Does it sting more to you then what Phil Knight is doing at Oregon?

That’s my exact point. See above. 

[SydneyCarton 49510]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

That’s my exact point. See above. 

I was editing my post. See above. Although my post was more of a “why does this scare you more than” and yours was more of a “holy shit holy shit I’m scared” slant. 

Edited November 22 by SydneyCarton

[Yesh 963]

33 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

While it’s great to see lsu get punked, I don’t like seeing some rich asshole from michigan flexing his minuscule johnson.

counterpoint - Sherrone Moore is still the head coach

[Dbeasy 15599]

7 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I was editing my post. See above. Although my post was more of a “why does this scare you more than” and yours was more of a “holy shit holy shit I’m scared” slant. 

No, my only point is that everyone is laughing about lsu.  And it is funny. And I love it. But tomorrow Knight or Portney could decide to aim their dollars this direction and poach Texas players and it wouldn’t be so funny. 

Of course, if a Texas billionaire or two wanted to step up, then obviously that would be great.  But right now I’m going to limit my joy over lsu’s misfortune because it wouldn’t be very fun watching bidding wars between a couple of rich billionaire assholes. Basically I hate Portnoy. 

[Teryor 5008]

1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

No, my only point is that everyone is laughing about lsu.  And it is funny. And I love it. But tomorrow Knight or Portney could decide to aim their dollars this direction and poach Texas players and it wouldn’t be so funny. 

Of course, if a Texas billionaire or two wanted to step up, then obviously that would be great.  But right now I’m going to limit my joy over lsu’s misfortune because it wouldn’t be very fun watching bidding wars between a couple of rich billionaire assholes. Basically I hate Portnoy. 

If it makes you feel better, Michigan's NIL group is literally crediting Larry Ellison for flipping Underwood

 

[TXpride 606]

1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

No, my only point is that everyone is laughing about lsu.  And it is funny. And I love it. But tomorrow Knight or Portney could decide to aim their dollars this direction and poach Texas players and it wouldn’t be so funny. 

Of course, if a Texas billionaire or two wanted to step up, then obviously that would be great.  But right now I’m going to limit my joy over lsu’s misfortune because it wouldn’t be very fun watching bidding wars between a couple of rich billionaire assholes. Basically I hate Portnoy. 

Portnoy isn't in the same stratosphere as Knight.

[Dbeasy 15599]

1 minute ago, TXpride said:

Portnoy isn't in the same stratosphere as Knight.

Ya I said that earlier. But he still hs a ton of money to waste. 

[HtownHorn 15235]

25 minutes ago, TXpride said:

Portnoy isn't in the same stratosphere as Knight.

Portnoy has enough to sign a QB every 3-4 years. Knight bankrolls the entire Oregon NIL, Portnoy is only giving to a QB. Not that it matters because, as previously mentioned, Moore is the head coach and he is a fucking moron.

[closetojumping 65450]

56 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

No, it’s the potential for Portnoy to pull a Phil Knight (with obviously far less money, but still enough) and throw tons of money into NIL. A single very rich dude can have a very big impact on Texas recruiting success. 

Hey man, get a fucking grip. 

[tokamak 6687]

Man I kinda feel for LSU. What a kick in the nuts. 
 

Spoiler

lol just kidding, fuck them

 

[westexhorn 2167]

Larry Ellison's networth is ~230b.  He makes Phil Knight look small.

[Redneck Mutha 8185]

3 hours ago, Lonestar88 said:

LSU just lost #1 ranked QB Bryce Underwood to Michigan, hopefully their class starts to fall apart.

[FunkSoulBrother 977]

1 hour ago, Teryor said:

If it makes you feel better, Michigan's NIL group is literally crediting Larry Ellison for flipping Underwood

 

Did not know Ellison was a Michigan fan. Would think Illinois since he went there but hey, they're not exactly a football powerhouse. 

[BigOrange1 6611]

that's gotta be the beginning of the end for Kelly in Baton Rouge, correct?

[texifornia 59017]

2 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

that's gotta be the beginning of the end for Kelly in Baton Rouge, correct?

They don't have anywhere near enough for his buyout plus a new coach

[billfromlaketravis 11824]

6 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

that's gotta be the beginning of the end for Kelly in Baton Rouge, correct?

One of their mods, not Dixon, clearly stated they can’t afford the buyout until 2026. If you need some confirmation that they’re broke, their NIL offer was 1/8th of what Michigan offered. 

[irishtexan 11712]

They don't have anywhere near enough for his buyout plus a new coach

Which is fucking delicious.

[BigOrange1 6611]

a couple of years in the wilderness for them then.  i can handle that.

[Radical Larry 28822]

Colonel Edward Beauregard Orgeron is tanned, rested, and ready. 

[LebongJames 1921]

We don’t really go head to head with Michigan. So I hope they turn the season around and sign a bunch of 5 stars. When I was a kid I liked their helmets 

Edited November 22 by LebongJames

[Teryor 5008]

LSU will bankrupt their public school and healthcare systems to get rid of Kelly if they look hopeless next year I assure you

[cafe society 2903]

1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

Ya I said that earlier. But he still hs a ton of money to waste. 

So you are issuing the Portnoy's Complaint?

[Ricky Butler 2809]

Remember when SEC schools over signed and dropped bags. Michigan and Texas were so annoyed, so this is hilarious. 

[Hermanator 7674]

Last couple of weeks before signing day so this is "stupid money" season when desperate teams throw out insane numbers?

[Hornius Emeritus 12806]

1 hour ago, Teryor said:

If it makes you feel better, Michigan's NIL group is literally crediting Larry Ellison for flipping Underwood

 

I don't understand ... what's Larry Ellison's tie to Michigan?

[TheRealRonWeaver? 1279]

Not sure if posted already, but Bobby had an interesting final note on this morning thoughts about recruiting. He said that Texas is more prepared for the portal than at any time in Sarkisian's tenure, alluding to conversations have already been had with high level guys about to enter.

[texifornia 59017]

21 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

Last couple of weeks before signing day so this is "stupid money" season when desperate teams throw out insane numbers?

Michigan, Florida, and Texas A&M all say hi.

One thing you can tell about the NIL era, all three are real academic colleges (TAMU to a lesser degree but better than Ole Miss or LSU) with legitimately wealthy alumni.

[Reese Bennett 3663]

1 hour ago, LebongJames said:

We don’t really go head to head with Michigan. So I hope they turn the season around and sign a bunch of 5 stars. When I was a kid I liked their helmets 

Do you even Rashan Gary?

[sith_horn 2519]

2 hours ago, HtownHorn said:

Portnoy is only giving to a QB. Not that it matters because, as previously mentioned, Moore is the head coach and he is a fucking moron.

                 

[hornian 5296]

2 hours ago, LebongJames said:

We don’t really go head to head with Michigan. So I hope they turn the season around and sign a bunch of 5 stars. When I was a kid I liked their helmets 

I’m in my 40s and I still like their helmets. 

[cmontexas 3373]

4 hours ago, westexhorn said:

Larry Ellison's networth is ~230b.  He makes Phil Knight look small.

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His first project included a database for the CIA, which he named "Oracle"

 

Edited November 22 by cmontexas

[Minute Bull 378]

6 hours ago, westexhorn said:

Larry Ellison's networth is ~230b.  He makes Phil Knight look small.

Dude actually owns one of the Hawaiian Islands (Lanai).

[Hank_Hill 20054]

1 minute ago, Minute Bull said:

Dude actually owns one of the Hawaiian Islands (Lanai).

Yea, he subsidizes the gas prices out there. First time I ferried over and saw the prices were cheaper than my Costco on Maui I was v confused. 

[Texas Wahoo 3631]

7 hours ago, FunkSoulBrother said:

Did not know Ellison was a Michigan fan. Would think Illinois since he went there but hey, they're not exactly a football powerhouse. 

 

[Vito Andolini 9454]

7 hours ago, cafe society said:

So you are issuing the Portnoy's Complaint?

You sonuvabiscuit, I was planning my brilliant “Portnoy’s Complaint” reply, but did the right thing and read the rest of the thread first. The thought did send me down a Philip Roth rabbit hole, which made me recall just how incredible Ali McGraw was in Goodbye, Columbus. Which takes me back to, “fuck Ryan Day.” 

The crypto run up may empower/embolden some bros to do more in the NIL space. Not sure if any of Harvard’s endowment makes it to sports, step up Winklevii.

[WBT 20985]

9 hours ago, texifornia said:

They don't have anywhere near enough for his buyout plus a new coach

 

9 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

One of their mods, not Dixon, clearly stated they can’t afford the buyout until 2026. If you need some confirmation that they’re broke, their NIL offer was 1/8th of what Michigan offered. 

You have to be bearish on coaching salaries right?  I guess operating the most efficient bag game was worth it for the poverty redneck schools but spending such an appreciable fraction of your player payroll on a head coach is insane.

There's no transparency on any of this, but at some point won't the donors look at the ratio of coaching salaries to player salaries in the ncaa vs the nfl and start asking themselves questions?

Edited November 22 by WBT

[closetojumping 65450]

6 minutes ago, WBT said:

 

You have to be bearish on coaching salaries right?  I guess operating the most efficient bag game was worth it for the poverty redneck schools but spending such an appreciable fraction of your player payroll on a head coach is insane.

There's no transparency on any of this, but at some point won't the donors look at the ratio of coaching salaries to player salaries in the ncaa vs the nfl and start asking themselves questions?

Maybe. Some schools will have to because they are up shit creek trying to stay competitive for players otherwise. 

One casualty that I expect to see quickly is the Sexton Fisher Maneuver in which horrendously lopsided buyouts in favor of the coaches are woven into their contracts. No coach is so important that they deserve a full buyout when they’re putting dogshit on the field. That idiot Woodward is hilariously the one that started that and now LSU is trapped for years with that asshole Kelly. 

[billfromlaketravis 11824]

39 minutes ago, WBT said:

 

You have to be bearish on coaching salaries right?  I guess operating the most efficient bag game was worth it for the poverty redneck schools but spending such an appreciable fraction of your player payroll on a head coach is insane.

There's no transparency on any of this, but at some point won't the donors look at the ratio of coaching salaries to player salaries in the ncaa vs the nfl and start asking themselves questions?

Underwood will probably make at least 3x what his OC takes home at Michigan, and he’ll probably approach Moore’s salary with all of his combined deals. The players making more than their coaches is already here, and the players making more their HC is just around the corner. 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Underwood will probably make at least 3x what his OC takes home at Michigan, and he’ll probably approach Moore’s salary with all of his combined deals. The players making more than their coaches is already here, and the players making more their HC is just around the corner. 

That’s how it is in every single other major sport around the world. Star players are more valuable than coaches. 

Edited November 22 by Burt Macklin

[closetojumping 65450]

Just thinking out loud here, but it would be cool to have some sort reference area in which one of the things we house is a tracker of coaching salaries, buyouts, assistant buyouts, etc.

We have the one dude with a weird handle name that does a great job of tracking eligibility for the UT football roster, @AP101S I think?, and that would go there too. I don't know, could add depth to the site that outpaces other places.

Wondering what the actual size is of Kelly's contract, plus his assistants, made me think about it. I'm not lazy enough to not type this out here, but I am lazy enough to avoid going elsewhere and trying to decipher what in the fuck is real versus some coonass spitballing over it.