Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[OB3 3608]

Fong bomb for Lockett

https://www.on3.com/db/kaliq-lockett-150273/

[BurntOrange&White 38878]

[Sabalo 992]

5 minutes ago, OB3 said:

Fong bomb for Lockett

https://www.on3.com/db/kaliq-lockett-150273/

Didn't Gerry say he doesn't expect Lockett and Ffrench in the same class?

[billfromlaketravis 11290]

TigerDroppings tears must be flowing. They convinced themselves a Moore, Ffrench, and Lockett class was impossible. 

[HtownHorn 14337]

OTF also reported that Lacey, Moore, Ffrench, and Lockett all had lunch together at one of their combined Texas visits.

[JBJ 3598]

[billfromlaketravis 11290]

Well guys, Texas is ruining college football and LSU fan is checking out.

[crash_davis 23051]

9 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

TigerDroppings tears must be flowing. They convinced themselves a Moore, Ffrench, and Lockett class was impossible. 

Unless you have a Lambo dealership in town. Sucks to be poor.

[texasgangordie 100]

getting all 3 of Moore, Ffrench and Lockett seems unlikely but I am not opposed to it

Edited May 28 by texasgangordie
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[kevwun 15308]

8 minutes ago, texasgangordie said:

getting all 3 of Moore, Ffrench and Lockett seems unlikely but I am not opposed to it

I'll take 2 as a consolation prize.

[DixonHur 10860]

14 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Well guys, Texas is ruining college football and LSU fan is checking out.

While I'm glad that Texas in on the right side of the poor/non-poor equation, I actually kind of agree with his sentiment.  I think the NCAA, or a replacement organization, needs to implement some sort of tiered school structure (like UIL) with a salary cap.

[Mitch Cumsteen 18351]

Why is LSU so pissy? Shouldn't they be used to this? I don't see how this is any different from Bama cleaning up at WR (Jeudy, Smith, Ruggs, Waddle, etc.) when Sark was there as OC for Saban. Same offense, different school and now with NIL money and Lambos instead of bags.

[TexEx15 17267]

5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

I'll take 2 as a consolation prize.

You will take all 3 and like it.

[Hank Chinaski 6308]

5 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

I think the NCAA, or a replacement organization, needs to implement some sort of tiered school structure (like UIL) with a salary cap.

Edited May 28 by Hank Chinaski

[kevwun 15308]

2 minutes ago, Mitch Cumsteen said:

Why is LSU so pissy? Shouldn't they be used to this? I don't see how this is any different from Bama cleaning up at WR (Jeudy, Smith, Ruggs, Waddle, etc.) when Sark was there as OC for Saban. Same offense, different school and now with NIL money and Lambos instead of bags.

They could afford to play the bag game.  They have been priced out of the neighborhood now and are rather upset about it.

Edited May 28 by kevwun

[Sgt Hulk 13533]

Arch Manning reading Fong Bombs 

[Sgt Hulk 13533]

Wingo cook Moore ffrench Lockett  would be a stupid 5 wide lineup 

[Ricky's one-hitter 9071]

37 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

TigerDroppings tears must be flowing. They convinced themselves a Moore, Ffrench, and Lockett class was impossible. 

It is when your NIL program is the equivalent of tiger droppings

[HtownHorn 14337]

1 minute ago, Sgt Hulk said:

Wingo cook Moore ffrench Lockett  would be a stupid 5 wide lineup 

and we don't have Greg Davis designing the route concepts.

[DZX158 45]

51 minutes ago, Sabalo said:

Didn't Gerry say he doesn't expect Lockett and Ffrench in the same class?

He’s mentioned it a few times on the live streams. 

[mwaadeeb 1147]

15 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

While I'm glad that Texas in on the right side of the poor/non-poor equation, I actually kind of agree with his sentiment.  I think the NCAA, or a replacement organization, needs to implement some sort of tiered school structure (like UIL) with a salary cap.

These are things you don't say out loud.

[Josef Pwag 1656]

20 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

While I'm glad that Texas in on the right side of the poor/non-poor equation, I actually kind of agree with his sentiment.  I think the NCAA, or a replacement organization, needs to implement some sort of tiered school structure (like UIL) with a salary cap.

A cap on NIL? No chance. Go read Kavanaugh's opinion from the Alston case. 

[Bevo 13439]

23 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

While I'm glad that Texas in on the right side of the poor/non-poor equation, I actually kind of agree with his sentiment.  I think the NCAA, or a replacement organization, needs to implement some sort of tiered school structure (like UIL) with a salary cap.

What happens when bagmen offer above the salary cap?

[BurntOrange&White 38878]

What if Moore, Lockett, and Ffrench all commit at the same time?

[destroya 358]

23 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

While I'm glad that Texas in on the right side of the poor/non-poor equation, I actually kind of agree with his sentiment.  I think the NCAA, or a replacement organization, needs to implement some sort of tiered school structure (like UIL) with a salary cap.

Any restriction on NIL or implementing a salary cap is likely to benefit schools that have played the bag game in the past. Fuck that shit. 
 

Keep it as is. Free market, everything in the open and above board. And that benefits Texas. 

[Mr. Drummond 2162]

So when the same 3/4 teams were winning it every year because of bags, the sport was just fine, but now that its a different 3/4 schools, its a problem that must be fixed for the love of the game.

 

FUCK. RIGHT. OFF   

[BigHorn'13 3346]

5 minutes ago, destroya said:

Any restriction on NIL or implementing a salary cap is likely to benefit schools that have played the bag game in the past. Fuck that shit. 
 

Keep it as is. Free market, everything in the open and above board. And that benefits Texas. 

Preach! 

I'll never understand why any Texas fan would want any type of restrictions placed on NIL. We finally got the clearance that we've wanted for forever now. 

[BurntOrange&White 38878]

8 minutes ago, destroya said:

Any restriction on NIL or implementing a salary cap is likely to benefit schools that have played the bag game in the past. Fuck that shit. 
 

Keep it as is. Free market, everything in the open and above board. And that benefits Texas. 

 

Just now, BigHorn'13 said:

Preach! 

I'll never understand why any Texas fan would want any type of restrictions placed on NIL. We finally got the clearance that we've wanted for forever now. 

You can't restrict NIL because that will be met with lawsuits. You can't tell a business, collective, etc what Player 1's NIL is worth....there is no metric to judge that and it's similar to artwork. Their value is whatever you're willing to pay. 

 

A cap on revenue sharing, which isn't NIL, should actually be a thing.

 

As I stated in the thread on the football board. Revenue sharing and NIL are being conflated and they're not the same. We'll have elite revenue sharing if it's a hard cap number or a percentage and I assume we will also have the best NIL deals in the works via corporate or collective.

[BornAndRaised 12201]

Can someone remind me who the receiver was that CTJ felt was undeserving of their rank and comes with a myriad of off the field issues ala Chris Marshall? Is it one of the ones we're currently leading for?

[Dondrysdale1 363]

Just now, BornAndRaised said:

Can someone remind me who the receiver was that CTJ felt was undeserving of their rank and comes with a myriad of off the field issues ala Chris Marshall? Is it one of the ones we're currently leading for?

Marsh

[JesusSweatDuck 17779]

[BigHorn'13 3346]

12 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

 

You can't restrict NIL because that will be met with lawsuits. You can't tell a business, collective, etc what Player 1's NIL is worth....there is no metric to judge that and it's similar to artwork. Their value is whatever you're willing to pay. 

 

A cap on revenue sharing, which isn't NIL, should actually be a thing.

 

As I stated in the thread on the football board. Revenue sharing and NIL are being conflated and they're not the same. We'll have elite revenue sharing if it's a hard cap number or a percentage and I assume we will also have the best NIL deals in the works via corporate or collective.

I do understand the difference but that's not what was being discussed. That LSU poster was complaining about NIL, not revenue sharing. 

[Post Oak 20112]

45 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

You will take all 3 and like it.

This is great. But I really think the guy I want the most after Moore is Kelshaun Johnson.

[BurntOrange&White 38878]

1 minute ago, Post Oak said:

This is great. But I really think the guy I want the most after Moore is Kelshaun Johnson.

I see you're riding the Gerry prospect high.

[Henry Hill 3156]

12 minutes ago, Post Oak said:

This is great. But I really think the guy I want the most after Moore is Kelshaun Johnson.

I’m hearing USC and a potential #1 overall pick from the Jets

[Post Oak 20112]

19 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

I see you're riding the Gerry prospect high.

Yep.

[DixonHur 10860]

15 minutes ago, BigHorn'13 said:

I do understand the difference but that's not what was being discussed. That LSU poster was complaining about NIL, not revenue sharing. 

It is what's being discussed.  NIL is just code word for paying players, but you know that already.

Actual NIL is just endorsements, and I'm not against any player making as much as they can from endorsements, but if you think that's how NIL is actually working, you're either insane or being disingenuous.  

This is why I said I understand the "sentiment" of the LSU poster.  

College football has jumped the "amateur" shark, so we should just stop pretending that these kids aren't professional athletes.  There needs to be revenue sharing and salary caps.  Hell, I don't even think they should be made to go to class.  I think they should have access to scholarships and be able to play school while playing if they choose to, but also allow them to postpone going to school until after their football careers are over.  

College football is just an NFL development league and should be treated as such.... the NFL has a salary cap, and so should college football.  

I recognize there are people who disagree, but that's my opinion.

[Sgt Hulk 13533]

51 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

What if Moore, Lockett, and Ffrench all commit at the same time?

[LCHorn 2560]

6 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

College football is just an NFL development league and should be treated as such.... the NFL has a salary cap, and so should college football.  

I might be misreading your post, but are you proposing salary caps on endorsements? 

[HenryJames 65537]

55 minutes ago, Mr. Drummond said:

So when the same 3/4 teams were winning it every year because of bags, the sport was just fine, but now that its a different 3/4 schools, its a problem that must be fixed for the love of the game.

Everybody's got a special kind of story. Everybody finds a way to shine.
It don't matter that you got not a lot.
So what? They'll have theirs, and you'll have yours, and I'll have mine. And together we'll be fine because it takes different strokes to move the world.

[DixonHur 10860]

6 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

I might be misreading your post, but are you proposing salary caps on endorsements? 

No... I'm advocating for players being paid by the school directly... IE being employees.

Endorsements would be up to them and their agents to secure.  But they'd be real endorsements instead of being glorified bag payments like they are now.  

I mean does anyone really believe 3* DT recruits are signing actual endorsement deals?  There are probably only a handful of players on the Texas roster with actual endorsement deals.

[kevwun 15308]

Salary caps are fine if you like watching mediocrity.  I'd rather watch Longhorn teams that are so good pundits talk about high they should rank historically.

Edited May 28 by kevwun

[DixonHur 10860]

5 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Salary caps are fine if you like watching mediocrity.  I'd rather watch Longhorn teams that are so good pundits talk about high they should rank historically.

So, all American pro sports leagues are mediocre?  Or do you not count the MLB's "luxury tax" as a salary cap?

Edited May 28 by DixonHur

[Burt Macklin 18964]

24 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

It is what's being discussed.  NIL is just code word for paying players, but you know that already.

Actual NIL is just endorsements, and I'm not against any player making as much as they can from endorsements, but if you think that's how NIL is actually working, you're either insane or being disingenuous.  

This is why I said I understand the "sentiment" of the LSU poster.  

College football has jumped the "amateur" shark, so we should just stop pretending that these kids aren't professional athletes.  There needs to be revenue sharing and salary caps.  Hell, I don't even think they should be made to go to class.  I think they should have access to scholarships and be able to play school while playing if they choose to, but also allow them to postpone going to school until after their football careers are over.  

College football is just an NFL development league and should be treated as such.... the NFL has a salary cap, and so should college football.  

I recognize there are people who disagree, but that's my opinion.

 

4 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

No... I'm advocating for players being paid by the school directly... IE being employees.

Endorsements would be up to them and their agents to secure.  But they'd be real endorsements instead of being glorified bag payments like they are now.  

I mean does anyone really believe 3* DT recruits are signing actual endorsement deals?  There are probably only a handful of players on the Texas roster with actual endorsement deals.

You seem confused here. There could be, and likely will be, direct pay from schools with a salary cap (but that will require some type of collective bargaining with the players).
 

There is no way to legally put a cap on NIL. Those are two completely separate things.  There’s no scenario where NIL gets counted into the cap. 

[LCHorn 2560]

6 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

No... I'm advocating for players being paid by the school directly... IE being employees.

Endorsements would be up to them and their agents to secure.  But they'd be real endorsements instead of being glorified bag payments like they are now.  

I mean does anyone really believe 3* DT recruits are signing actual endorsement deals?  There are probably only a handful of players on the Texas roster with actual endorsement deals.

 

I guess--my understanding from the guys getting top billing at the Texas One Fund event is that they take seriously that there's an actual endorsement made (like the Arnold and Itkin interviews).  They also take compliance seriously, just like everyone else does that wants to be welcome at Bellmont. 

[kevwun 15308]

8 minutes ago, DixonHur said:

So, all American pro sports leagues are mediocre?  Or do you not count the MLB's "luxury tax" as a salary cap?

Yes, the NFL is a whole bunch of medicority now compared to what it was before the salary cap.  MLB is better because the cap is soft and isn't set so low comparatively as the NFL's cap.  Both have effected the quality of good teams though.

Edited May 28 by kevwun

[DixonHur 10860]

4 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

 

You seem confused here. There could be, and likely will be, direct pay from schools with a salary cap (but that will require some type of collective bargaining with the players).
 

There is no way to legally put a cap on NIL. Those are two completely separate things.  There’s no scenario where NIL gets counted into the cap. 

I'm not suggesting different.  I'm saying NIL, the way it's operating now, is not different that the "bag man" days, aside from being legal and relatively public.  

In my view, what we refer to as NIL would go away and be replaced by direct payment (employment) and that all money earned through real endorsements would be up to the individual. 

No differently than how it's done in the NFL.

Basically, HS players would be the equivalent of NFL free agents.

[DixonHur 10860]

4 minutes ago, kevwun said:

Yes, the NFL is a whole bunch of medicority now compared to what it was before the salary cap.  MLB is better because the cap is soft and isn't set so low comparatively as the NFL's cap.  Both have effected the quality of good teams though.

This sounds like old man, "back in my day" talk.  The NFL is not worse because of the salary cap. 

It's worse because of free agency and the sheer amount money involved. 

[kevwun 15308]

I have no issue with free agency.  It's fair.  I have a problem when good teams are punished for drafting well.  I am also very confused why any fan of Texas Football would be upset about the current landscape.  It might as well have been tailored to our needs.

Edited May 28 by kevwun

[DixonHur 10860]

14 minutes ago, LCHorn said:

 

I guess--my understanding from the guys getting top billing at the Texas One Fund event is that they take seriously that there's an actual endorsement made (like the Arnold and Itkin interviews).  They also take compliance seriously, just like everyone else does that wants to be welcome at Bellmont. 

Come on man... that's like an aggy owned car dealership in Nacogdoches hiring football players to wash cars at the lot for $25k back in the day... where attendance was optional.