Texas Recruiting Notes 2025: Duck Around and Find Out

[Hornius Emeritus 12332]

1 hour ago, SimkinsMan said:

Here's what I would say in regard to the hand-wringing over Lacey. For anyone who wandered through the wilderness of QB recruiting from 2010 to 2020, and by God it was a fucking beating, it is difficult to worry overmuch about the current efforts. Here's a refresher on who we took:

2017: Shane Ehlinger

 

That Shane Ehlinger dude was a total scrub.

[D3zii 3620]

1 hour ago, SimkinsMan said:

Here's what I would say in regard to the hand-wringing over Lacey. For anyone who wandered through the wilderness of QB recruiting from 2010 to 2020, and by God it was a fucking beating, it is difficult to worry overmuch about the current efforts. Here's a refresher on who we took:

2010: Case McCoy, Connor Wood

2011: David Ash

2012: Connor Brewer, Jalen Overstreet

2013: Tyrone Swoopes (if you're a real masochist, go back and look at the entire 2013 class. Torbush)

2014: Jerrod Heard

2015: Kai Locksley, Matthew Merrick

2016: Shane Buechele

2017: Shane Ehlinger

2018: Casey Thompson, Cam Rising

2019: Roschon Johnson

2020: Hudson Card

Go ahead and take a hard drink of liquor after reading that list. Maybe two. I'll wait.

Anyway, we've gone from a collection of misfits and mis-evaluations to Quinn, Malik, Arch, Owens, and the plan going forward seems to be to take the best available QB every year. Happiness is realizing is that if Lacey is not him, there are other guys on the roster who definitely will be.

 

 

Man after that ND game and the prior QB Recruits you couldn't tell us Shane Buechele wasn't a gift from God. 

And is crazy because he probably would be fighting for 3rd String in this QB room maybe even 4th, no offense to Buechele, just shows ow far we've come 

[Elmer_Fudd 22022]

7 minutes ago, Thiefery said:

Gerry on the OTF boards said as long as Brown keeps making his OVs, the more LSU will be sweating or something like that.. They went hard this weekend with his family in tow.. 

He's supposed to OV to Tennessee this weekend, then his Texas OV is the weekend after this.

[Rimbo 25247]

I don't really feel any pain about those QB classes, or the 2013 class in particular now. I felt the pain then, at the time. It would still hurt now if our recruiting and coaching weren't what they (mostly) are right now.

[BurntOrange&White 38889]

Just now, Elmer_Fudd said:

He's supposed to OV to Tennessee this weekend, then his Texas OV is the weekend after this.

Followed by Miami.....tells you what's needed in this recruitment IMO.

[Thiefery 4940]

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

He's supposed to OV to Tennessee this weekend, then his Texas OV is the weekend after this.

Yep. he keeps taking these OVs, his LSU high wears off..  

[Thiefery 4940]

1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Followed by Miami.....tells you what's needed in this recruitment IMO.

Miami is closer to home, if it comes down to what NIL can do for him.. UT should win this purley on the need at DT 

[Elmer_Fudd 22022]

9 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Followed by Miami.....tells you what's needed in this recruitment IMO.

Did he change USC to Miami?  USC shows 21st.

[BurntOrange&White 38889]

1 minute ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Did he change USC to Miami?  USC shows 21st.

I believe that is what Gerry had said....

[BurntOrange&White 38889]

Update from Gerry just now:

 

Brandon Brown Update

OnTexasFootball spoke with a person close to the recruitment of 4-star Texas commitment Brandon Brown (Melbourne, Fla./Eau Gallie) within the last hour. 

Here is the latest:

1. Brown is not de-committing from Texas today or tomorrow barring a major change, flipping to LSU and ending his recruiting process. Just answering some questions being asked. 

2. Brown intends to make the official visits scheduled. Tennessee June 7-9, Texas June 14-16 and likely Miami June 21-23. 

3. Brown has been on the phone with defensive line coach Kenny Baker since the LSU visit concluded. 

4. Brown is scheduled to speak with Steve Sarkisian tonight around 6 p.m. central.

[satyanash 14136]

 

[Getafix 28364]

 

Cross-posting (also posted in the Coaching and Support Staff Thread ... ).

Interesting summary.

 

 

 

[Vertigo 20208]

13 minutes ago, satyanash said:

 

Wasn't he at LSU this weekend?

[Elmer_Fudd 22022]

44 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

Wasn't he at LSU this weekend?

Yes.  And then right after the tweet.

 

[irishtexan 11414]

He clearly gave them a silent on his trip and it got out. We'll see if the staff can keep him from officially announcing and to keep his official to Texas. 

[Dondrysdale1 363]

Davis or not fairly reminiscent of Simmons post LSU last year. I have a feeling some of what LSU is selling might not be enough after a visit to Texas. Then Embody and his ilk will cry that NIL is not fair.

[Dbeasy 14790]

I see that pets heads are falling off. I honestly don’t get it. He recruited pretty good but not great at Texas and suddenly he’s going to get the top targets at a school with fewer NIL resources? Maybe there is under the table money that holds appeal? 

[bwub60 147]

2 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I see that pets heads are falling off. I honestly don’t get it. He recruited pretty good but not great at Texas and suddenly he’s going to get the top targets at a school with fewer NIL resources? Maybe there is under the table money that holds appeal? 

Lets NIL their ass!

[texifornia 56029]

https://www.on3.com/db/javion-hilson-156560/

[Rimbo 25247]

2 hours ago, Getafix said:

 

Cross-posting (also posted in the Coaching and Support Staff Thread ... ).

Interesting summary.

 

 

 

this is shamelessly stolen from Tope Imade's Reddit AMA from last week. Highly recommend reading it, if only for the "Ok, Tope" story.

 

[Hornlover 8824]

4 hours ago, SimkinsMan said:

Here's what I would say in regard to the hand-wringing over Lacey. For anyone who wandered through the wilderness of QB recruiting from 2010 to 2020, and by God it was a fucking beating, it is difficult to worry overmuch about the current efforts. Here's a refresher on who we took:

2010: Case McCoy, Connor Wood

2011: David Ash

2012: Connor Brewer, Jalen Overstreet

2013: Tyrone Swoopes (if you're a real masochist, go back and look at the entire 2013 class. Torbush)

2014: Jerrod Heard

2015: Kai Locksley, Matthew Merrick

2016: Shane Buechele

2017: Shane Ehlinger

2018: Casey Thompson, Cam Rising

2019: Roschon Johnson

2020: Hudson Card

Go ahead and take a hard drink of liquor after reading that list. Maybe two. I'll wait.

Anyway, we've gone from a collection of misfits and mis-evaluations to Quinn, Malik, Arch, Owens, and the plan going forward seems to be to take the best available QB every year. Happiness is realizing is that if Lacey is not him, there are other guys on the roster who definitely will be.

And where is Charles Wright on this list?

[NorLa Horns 1458]

1 hour ago, Hornlover said:

And where is Charles Wright on this list?

Where is Charles Wright period?

[Elmer_Fudd 22022]

Zion Fong'd to LSU.

[HtownHorn 14341]

55 minutes ago, NorLa Horns said:

Where is Charles Wright period?

In Austin living with Gunnar Helm. He returned after spring practice from Appalachian State. Don't be surprised if he walks on in the fall.

[T-shirt Sip 2091]

3 hours ago, texifornia said:

https://www.on3.com/db/javion-hilson-156560/

[Ghost of Shag 2550]

Who do we have on the defensive side that is a recruiting wizard?

That’s a major reason our current defensive class looks like it does.

[kwood4408 755]

Who do we have on the defensive side that is a recruiting wizard?
That’s a major reason our current defensive class looks like it does.

Seems like Nansen is the only one so far.

[closetojumping 62010]

7 hours ago, Thiefery said:

Gerry on the OTF boards said as long as Brown keeps making his OVs, the more LSU will be sweating or something like that.. They went hard this weekend with his family in tow.. 

Davis is selling putting players in the league versus Baker having no proof of value and being all hat and no cattle. LSU is also selling some notion of “long term NIL” versus short term cash, which is fucking rich. It’s the easiest shit to rebuff ever. LSU does not have a history to lean on of taking care of their own or of their degree making one fuck of a difference. They have former star players working as bouncers and shit. 

1 hour ago, Elmer_Fudd said:

Zion Fong'd to LSU.

He clearly gave LSU a silent. 

The LSU staff and the LSU mouthpieces are telling anyone and everyone that these two recruitments are over. It’s bizarre but it is actually in line with their attempt to land a bunch of guys early and claim that they were going to dominate the recruiting cycle. Some sort of weird notion of manifesting their wishcasted future into existence. I think it is sad desperation for a poorly funded program that doesn’t have a better answer for the new world. I guess we’ll see, but if that is true, it’s both gratifying and hilarious. 

[Tex Pete 20086]

Just a matter of time before they start selling classroom desks and light fixtures to try to keep pace in NIL. 

[tokamak 6324]

LSU getting all the DTs and we’re getting all the WR? Maybe we can hit them up at the trade deadline and see if they want to make a deal. 

[Fondren & Main 6597]

Sounds like some children’s hospitals and highways are about to lose funding in the state of Louisiana!

[walker 175]

LSU can definitely sell playing time.  We think we are desperate for DT's, but they hardly even have warm bodies.  There was a discussion on TD about how much weight the ends needed to put on to move to DT.

[Tex Pete 20086]

1 minute ago, Fondren & Main said:

Sounds like some children’s hospitals and highways are about to lose funding in the state of Louisiana!

Uh, they’ve been using the highway money for something other than highways at least since the mid-70s. There’s nothing to take. 

[HtownHorn 14341]

1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

The LSU staff and the LSU mouthpieces are telling anyone and everyone that these two recruitments are over. It’s bizarre but it is actually in line with their attempt to land a bunch of guys early and claim that they were going to dominate the recruiting cycle. Some sort of weird notion of manifesting their wishcasted future into existence. I think it is sad desperation for a poorly funded program that doesn’t have a better answer for the new world. I guess we’ll see, but if that is true, it’s both gratifying and hilarious. 

Is this something Texas can counter if Williams gets on campus? I think once he sees Texas's NIL package it should be easy to overcome whatever BS LSU sold him this weekend. I guess as long as Williams continues taking visits the better it is.

[Funk Doctor Spock 11709]

Member that time Bijan gave a silent to Ohio State because of pressure? This wouldn't surprise me if it's the same thing with Williams. 

[BurntOrange&White 38889]

Gerry

 

Brandon Brown: The Latest

OnTexasFootball reported Monday that Texas head coach Steve Sarkisian and defensive line coach Kenny Baker were scheduled to speak with 4-star defensive line commitment Brandon Brown (Melbourne, Fla./eau Gallie) and family members Monday around 6 p.m. central. 

That call did in fact happen, and it went well for the Texas staff. 

Notes:

1. Steve Sarkisian and Kenny Baker spoke with Brown, his mother, older brother and another person very close to the recruitment. 

2. As OTF reported Monday, Brown is visiting Tennessee, Texas and likely Miami the remainder of June. 

3. Brown has the longest standing relationship with Bo Davis. LSU made a very big push over the weekend. Brown, mother and brother were impressed. 

4. Brown's older brother is expected to make the June 14-16 visit to Texas, which he did not in March. 

5. Brown is expected to go through the visit process, and make a final decision.

6. Gird up your loins ... SEC recruiting isn't for the faint of heart. 

[billfromlaketravis 11291]

So LSU’s “long term NIL package” is a stall tactic while they fabricate financial records, right? Never change Fighting Kingfishes. 

[troph 24028]

19 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

So LSU’s “long term NIL package” is a stall tactic while they fabricate financial records, right? Never change Fighting Kingfishes. 

I prefer to call them the Lazy Muddy Redfish Fatties myself 

[Scholz 11896]

There’s always another person very close to the recruitment.

[Texasrocks 2119]

11 hours ago, Tex Pete said:

Uh, they’ve been using the highway money for something other than highways at least since the mid-70s. There’s nothing to take. 

I took a Louisiana state highway in the late 90's that had several unpaved stretches and a single-lane bridge that looked homemade. It would have made some third world countries blush.

[Park Gothic 4896]

I understand the appeal of LSU to an unsophisticated person. And I mean "unsophisticated" in the technical sense, not calling them stupid or anything. They lack expertise or experience, and can be convinced by a pitch that seems strong on a superficial level. While at Texas, Bo Davis helped put four different DL in the NFL, including a first-rounder. Credit where its due, Davis was the coach most responsible for developing Murphy. If they have a strong NIL pitch - regardless of the veracity of the pitch - to go with Davis' reputation, I can understand it. I also understand that people in CFB coaching circles are high on Kenny Baker's potential, but he has nothing to sell at the moment. So I don't necessarily fault him for not winning head-to-head with Davis, although it is disconcerting. 

But where the fuck was this version of Bo Davis at Texas? Why did Davis struggle to recruit quality DL here? There's no way that our NIL and sales pitch are worse than LSU (with or without Davis). Was he focused on development and there's only so many hours in the day? Did he think his 2022 class was enough to coast on (despite not being as good as it seemed on paper)? 

I don't get it. I hope that Zion and Brown sit down with the staff and they can explain why LSU's pitch is bullshit. I hope we get that chance. Because I'm pretty fucking sick and tired of losing recruits to a school that I frankly view as being worse than A&M. 

[BornAndRaised 12201]

23 minutes ago, Park Gothic said:

But where the fuck was this version of Bo Davis at Texas? Why did Davis struggle to recruit quality DL here? There's no way that our NIL and sales pitch are worse than LSU (with or without Davis). Was he focused on development and there's only so many hours in the day? Did he think his 2022 class was enough to coast on (despite not being as good as it seemed on paper)? 

I mean he's targetting the two people who he probably had the best relationship with at Texas in Brown and Zion. His recruiting issues will rear its ugly head if they miss out on those and in future cycles. I get the sentiment but at least to me it was expected.

[Vertigo 20208]

21 minutes ago, BornAndRaised said:

I mean he's targetting the two people who he probably had the best relationship with at Texas in Brown and Zion. His recruiting issues will rear its ugly head if they miss out on those and in future cycles. I get the sentiment but at least to me it was expected.

Davis is arguably the hottest DL coach in the country right now coming off of last season. It is understandable that he has recruits attention, but I think his shine will wear off a bit after this upcoming season where he has jack shit to work with. 

[Atticus 3893]

Quality DL? He helped beat out UGA for Sydir Mitchell, UF for D’antre Robinson, and LSU for Alex January during his tenure. Probably some other wins I’m forgetting. 

None of those guys were highly rated, and neither is Brown. All were/are highly regarded despite their ranking. 

[Burt Macklin 18966]

1 hour ago, Park Gothic said:

I understand the appeal of LSU to an unsophisticated person. And I mean "unsophisticated" in the technical sense, not calling them stupid or anything. They lack expertise or experience, and can be convinced by a pitch that seems strong on a superficial level. While at Texas, Bo Davis helped put four different DL in the NFL, including a first-rounder. Credit where its due, Davis was the coach most responsible for developing Murphy. If they have a strong NIL pitch - regardless of the veracity of the pitch - to go with Davis' reputation, I can understand it. I also understand that people in CFB coaching circles are high on Kenny Baker's potential, but he has nothing to sell at the moment. So I don't necessarily fault him for not winning head-to-head with Davis, although it is disconcerting. 

But where the fuck was this version of Bo Davis at Texas? Why did Davis struggle to recruit quality DL here? There's no way that our NIL and sales pitch are worse than LSU (with or without Davis). Was he focused on development and there's only so many hours in the day? Did he think his 2022 class was enough to coast on (despite not being as good as it seemed on paper)? 

I don't get it. I hope that Zion and Brown sit down with the staff and they can explain why LSU's pitch is bullshit. I hope we get that chance. Because I'm pretty fucking sick and tired of losing recruits to a school that I frankly view as being worse than A&M. 

This is the good shit. Bo Davis having sway with (but not yet actually flipping) a guy he got to commit to Texas is a clear sign he’s recruiting at a much higher level at LSU than he was at Texas. 
 

Nevermind that he hasn’t actually gotten any commitments and he just completely struck out on landing a single quality DT transfer on a team whose DT depth chart is in more trouble than the buttons on one of Elko’s blazers. 

Edited June 4 by Burt Macklin

[cafe society 2831]

2 hours ago, Texasrocks said:

I took a Louisiana state highway in the late 90's that had several unpaved stretches and a single-lane bridge that looked homemade. It would have made some  their fellow third world countries blush.

FIFY

[FloridaHorn 4726]

3 hours ago, Texasrocks said:

I took a Louisiana state highway in the late 90's that had several unpaved stretches and a single-lane bridge that looked homemade. It would have made some third world countries blush.

I10/I12 through Baton Rouge is like driving through a ranch in Hico, Texas at 70 MPH.

[tejas60 3514]

I call bullshit. ranches in Hico are much more asthetically pleasing.

Edited June 4 by tejas60

[NorLa Horns 1458]

39 minutes ago, FloridaHorn said:

I10/I12 through Baton Rouge is like driving through a ranch in Hico, Texas at 70 MPH.

No sir. I-10 around Lafayette is smooth as a babies bottom. 

I think the guy in charge of Louisiana roads lives there. Only explanation for why the rest of the state is the public roads version  of dysentery, and that one little stretch is a real honest to God driveable road. 

Edited June 4 by NorLa Horns
G

[kevwun 15336]

When the other schools have ripped apart LSU's ponzi scheme involving NIL in a couple of weeks, I imagine interest from Brown and Zion will fade some.