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  On 12/9/2021 at 3:09 AM, JimmyJames said:

So why isn’t Herman still coaching here then?

We know why you favor Herman over strong. Truth is they both sucked. Yet here you are defending turtle Tom. I can’t imagine why.

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Bitch ass take. Fuck off to CR pussy

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  On 12/9/2021 at 3:14 AM, JimmyJames said:

If he was far better he would still be here. He sucked. The only success he had was with Charlie’s players. Sorry if that others you. Herman’s recruits sucked and why he got fired along with being a shitty coach and why were in the hole we are in.

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But that's fair. 

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  On 12/9/2021 at 4:16 AM, po elvis said:

i am just glad Strong didn't get fired with a 7-3 record. we know how that would have gone down in the media.

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Only reason Herman was fired was the big money assholes shot their shot at Meyer but, unlike USC, couldn't keep their bitchass mouthes shut. 

It's apparent looking at the 2018 and 2019 classes that Herman could coach pretty well but couldn't evaluate talent worth a shit. Strong couldn't coach worth a shit but was decent at talent evaluation. 

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  On 12/9/2021 at 6:03 AM, Hermanator said:

Only reason Herman was fired was the big money assholes shot their shot at Meyer but, unlike USC, couldn't keep their bitchass mouthes shut. 

It's apparent looking at the 2018 and 2019 classes that Herman could coach pretty well but couldn't evaluate talent worth a shit. Strong couldn't coach worth a shit but was decent at talent evaluation. 

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Does that mean we shouldn’t get Ewers since Herman recruited him?

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  On 12/9/2021 at 3:05 AM, JimmyJames said:
Yeah with Charlie’s players. 
 
It’s kind of weird how you’re defending Herman though.

He’s not defending anybody. The fact is that you need to keep defending politics that you like and stay the fuck out of here with your buddy David Dennison. Go away. Your weak ass uninformed takes crush this board. Read more, post less.
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Posted
  On 12/9/2021 at 3:22 AM, Johnny Sack said:

Maybe repeated unexplainable time management and use or lack of use of timeouts at the end of halves?

I expect more than you do, I suppose.  I wanted Herman fired and he was twice the coach of that Strong fool.  

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Lol. I had legit forgotten about the time Charlie took a delay of game penalty on a FG attempt at the end of the first half, and then missed the FG - with several timeouts on the board.

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Posted
  On 12/9/2021 at 6:07 AM, Horn Dogg said:

Does that mean we shouldn’t get Ewers since Herman recruited him?

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Herman recruited Bijan and he's a beast so it's not a 100 percent certainty on an individual basis. But when half your class is gone from the team within 2 years that's some shit evals overall. 

Posted
  On 12/9/2021 at 3:18 AM, JimmyJames said:

Since when does having a high IQ make you a good football coach. I wonder why you would bring that supposed observation up? Interesting.

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smooth-brains together strong.  no wonder you are defending strong so zealously.

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  On 12/9/2021 at 6:28 AM, CurlyDumps said:

Lol. I had legit forgotten about the time Charlie took a delay of game penalty on a FG attempt at the end of the first half, and then missed the FG - with several timeouts on the board.

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What game was that?

much like childhood trauma, my psyche has locked away a lot of the Charlie strong era as a self preservation measure.

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I mean it’s fun to debate which midget is taller I guess, but it really shouldn’t be a debate. Tom Herman is the definition of mediocre. He’d end up averaging 7-8 wins per season if we kept him around. He is the close loss/win specialist. On the other hand, Charlie is straight up hopeless. He is the blowout loss specialist. He recruited well, but it was only a matter of time until recruits realized that Texas was a five win program under him. Most knew the writing was on the wall when he kept Watson after one of the most embarrassing bowl performances in school history. One would think he’d do better at USF, where the pressure and the distractions are less significant. Instead he inherited an 11-2 program only to go 4-8 in year three. Charlie is an absolute bottom of the barrel head coach.

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Posted (edited)
  On 12/9/2021 at 3:30 AM, JimmyJames said:

Since you don’t deny it I’ll take this as your admission that you supported UT hiring turtle Tom, which makes you a fucking idiot and partially responsible for the mess we are in. 

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If only we had cheered harder for Strong, Held that rope, he’d still be here, winning 5, maybe 6 games a season.
 

Heck, if we cheer harder for Sarkisian, maybe he’ll break .500 next season!

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Posted
  On 12/9/2021 at 6:03 AM, Hermanator said:
Only reason Herman was fired was the big money assholes shot their shot at Meyer but, unlike USC, couldn't keep their bitchass mouthes shut. 
It's apparent looking at the 2018 and 2019 classes that Herman could coach pretty well but couldn't evaluate talent worth a shit. Strong couldn't coach worth a shit but was decent at talent evaluation. 

I thought that was what started this argument. At least that Strong was a better talent evaluator.
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  On 12/9/2021 at 6:03 AM, Hermanator said:

Only reason Herman was fired was the big money assholes shot their shot at Meyer but, unlike USC, couldn't keep their bitchass mouthes shut. 

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Dude. Woah. 

He was fired because everyone knew his ship was sinking, so he couldn't even recruit at a high level on paper anymore. 

Remember when he had to fire all of his initial comfort hire staff? 

If he was good enough to coach here, why isn't he coaching a P5 team today? Is his name rumored in ANY searches?

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  On 12/9/2021 at 1:27 PM, B00M said:

Dude. Woah. 

He was fired because everyone knew his ship was sinking, so he couldn't even recruit at a high level on paper anymore. 

Remember when he had to fire all of his initial comfort hire staff? 

If he was good enough to coach here, why isn't he coaching a P5 team today? Is his name rumored in ANY searches?

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But we learned nothing from the mistake that was Tom Herman. That's the problem. How did the people who made the decision to hire Tom Herman miss so badly?

No one cares.

And that is why we are having to cycle through yet another brain fart coaching hire who never should have been hired in the first place.

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  On 12/9/2021 at 10:44 AM, 52-80 said:
  On 12/9/2021 at 3:18 AM, JimmyJames said:

Since when does having a high IQ make you a good football coach. I wonder why you would bring that supposed observation up? Interesting.

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High IQ is helpful in a number of cases, like figuring out you DON'T want to give UCLA the ball to start BOTH haves in a one possession game. Or remembering your starting QB's name. Not sure that Sabin, Smart or any of a number of other coaches are sporting 180 IQ's but they do seem to know their starting QB's name. 

You seem bent on implying something racial because of Charlies' race and the fact that he's a dumbass. Get over it, dumbass knows no racial boundaries.

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Arguing that Charlie was better than Turtle Tom... What a strange hill to die on...

What is it about this board that people sometimes go with objectively false takes and just go down with the freaking ship?

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  On 12/9/2021 at 2:44 PM, CBHorn said:

Arguing that Charlie was better than Turtle Tom... What a strange hill to die on...

What is it about this board that people sometimes go with objectively false takes and just go down with the freaking ship?

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They were both terrible in such different ways.  It feels like what one was "okay" at doing, the other was horrible at that.  Like if you smashed them into one coach, maybe they would be successful.  Or if they had some CEO managing them so they couldn't fuck up overall control of the team. 

Charlie: better talent evaluator, but couldn't coach them for shit (since Tom won with Charlie's players); king of getting blown out with better players than Tom had
Tom:  better coach, but recruited like shit (left a bunch of shit besides Bijan and a few guys on defense) and teams had no discipline or GAF (most of the 2019 class already being gone already); king of close losses/moral victories with Charlie's guys and losing when he shouldn't (Maryland)

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