The Gun Owner’s thread

[cabowabo 4,487]

Remember...pistol braces were designed to allow wounded and maimed veterans to be able to shoot these pistols with one hand.  It would be un-American and un-patriotic to ban them.

[TexasGary 833]

On 3/8/2021 at 6:51 PM, TexasGary said:

Finished putting it together.

Now that I have this put together I need to get accessories.  I need some advice on optics.

For popup sights I was looking at these from Tacticon sights.

Would you guys recommend a red dot or scope?

[Jkwellborn 6,704]

Nobody in history has ever gone out and used a pistol brace "as they were designed", unless they were posting a video on youtube.  They are an SBR loophole. Ban the damn braces if you want.  I already have my SBRs.

Fuck that. SBRs shouldn’t be restricted and people shouldn’t have to be working around them.

[markstanco 12,577]

10 minutes ago, TexasGary said:

Now that I have this put together I need to get accessories.  I need some advice on optics.

For popup sights I was looking at these from Tacticon sights.

Would you guys recommend a red dot or scope?

Red dot here.  https://www.eotechinc.com/eotech-hws-512 on a LaRue mount with a magnifier. 

[BabaYaga 15,299]

14 minutes ago, Jkwellborn said:

Fuck that. SBRs shouldn’t be restricted and people shouldn’t have to be working around them.

It's an antiquated ruling going back decades.  It's a pointless rule that serves no purpose.  Think it was an old prohibition-era carry over?

[BabaYaga 15,299]

1 hour ago, cabowabo said:

Remember...pistol braces were designed to allow wounded and maimed veterans to be able to shoot these pistols with one hand.  It would be un-American and un-patriotic to ban them.

Better than the alternative

 

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,976]

3 hours ago, Lat22 said:

Nobody in history has ever gone out and used a pistol brace "as they were designed", unless they were posting a video on youtube.  They are an SBR loophole. Ban the damn braces if you want.  I already have my SBRs.

Technically not a loophole. A loophole was a thin slotted window that was larger in the interior than the exterior to allow archers to fire their arrows with a wide field of fire while presenting as small a target as possible. Loopholes are therefore intentional. Using a braced pistol as an SBR is a workaround, as it was not intentional. The gunshow loophole is an example of an actual loophole, as private face to face transactions were intentionally exempted from the FFL requirements as a compromise in order to pass legislation. Of course, when gun control advocates say "gunshow loophole" they are actually trying to imply that it was not intentional, which is just poor use of the english language.

[cabowabo 4,487]

21 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

 gun control 

The proper nomenclature is "gun safety measures" or "sensible gun safety measures."

[Armybrat 40,850]

1 hour ago, cabowabo said:

The proper nomenclature is "gun safety measures" or "common sense gun safety measures."

Fify

[Armybrat 40,850]

Ordered one of these sig Romeo green dots yesterday for the Ruger PC Carbine - $110 from Grabagun...

https://grabagun.com/sig-sauer-romeo-msr-green-dot-sight-1x20mm.html

 

Edited March 25, 2021 by Armybrat

[Bozo_Casanova 26,472]

Went in to look at a Ruger Max or SS365XL, walked out with a Gen 5 Glock 19.  I couldn’t help myself. 

Edited March 26, 2021 by Bozo_Casanova

[BayouBill 835]

28 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Went in to look at a Ruger Max or SS365XL, walked out with a Gen 5 Glock 19.  I couldn’t help myself. 

It happens

[Jkwellborn 6,704]

It's an antiquated ruling going back decades.  It's a pointless rule that serves no purpose.  Think it was an old prohibition-era carry over?

yeah all of the NFA stuff is from that. And pointless.

The proper nomenclature is "gun safety measures" or "sensible gun safety measures."

Either way, it’s something a dumbass says.

[Speedtrucker 2,071]

Anyone handled/owned a polymer80 full “glock19” PFC9
Or a shadow systems MR920?

Been thinking about a non-glock that takes glock mags but with a 1911 grip angle like the PFC9 or MR920...

[ChickenSandwich 9,839]

No idea but been looking at the MR920, she is sexy

[Armybrat 40,850]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Went in to look at a Ruger Max or SS365XL, walked out with a Gen 5 Glock 19.  I couldn’t help myself. 

Was a Max-9 available? If so, what price?

[Bozo_Casanova 26,472]

10 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Was a Max-9 available? If so, what price?

It was. $499. McBride‘s had 3 of them. 
Nice little gun, came real close to buying it. 

Edited March 26, 2021 by Bozo_Casanova

[midtown 3,346]

My son and I got out to my buddies ranch today to hit some clays. First use for both of our new shotguns

[Handcruser 2,805]

Anyone handled/owned a polymer80 full “glock19” PFC9
Or a shadow systems MR920?

Been thinking about a non-glock that takes glock mags but with a 1911 grip angle like the PFC9 or MR920...

MR920 is an awesome pistol. Ive been eyeing them lately. All the guys that have them love them.

[Cajun 11,705]

Today was the day that I learned that we are all pussies --

 

[Cajun 11,705]

On 3/25/2021 at 3:52 PM, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

Technically not a loophole. A loophole was a thin slotted window that was larger in the interior than the exterior to allow archers to fire their arrows with a wide field of fire while presenting as small a target as possible. Loopholes are therefore intentional. Using a braced pistol as an SBR is a workaround, as it was not intentional. The gunshow loophole is an example of an actual loophole, as private face to face transactions were intentionally exempted from the FFL requirements as a compromise in order to pass legislation. Of course, when gun control advocates say "gunshow loophole" they are actually trying to imply that it was not intentional, which is just poor use of the english language.

A lot like how "gun control" really being people control is a poor use of the english language?

Like that?

So is there really a "gun control advocate" in the first place?

Edited March 28, 2021 by Cajun

[Lat22 4,014]

On 3/25/2021 at 3:52 PM, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

The gunshow loophole is an example of an actual loophole

99% of FTF transactions don’t happen at gun shows. Why is it called “gun show” loophole?

[Jkwellborn 6,704]

99% of FTF transactions don’t happen at gun shows. Why is it called “gun show” loophole?

To misinform people that are too stupid to understand it.

[Reagan1k 3,024]

1 hour ago, Lat22 said:

99% of FTF transactions don’t happen at gun shows. Why is it called “gun show” loophole?

Part ignorance and part intellectual dishonesty- ratios vary from time to time and place to place. 

[3adays 454]

I’m in the market for a gun safe and a friend of mine who is the locksmith business said to stay away from Cannon or anything from Tractor Supply, Sam’s etc.

I was told to look at these two:

https://residential.amsecusa.com/residential-gun-safes/

https://www.gardall.com/view-product/fire-lined-gun-safes

[Cajun 11,705]

2 hours ago, Lat22 said:

99% of FTF transactions don’t happen at gun shows. Why is it called “gun show” loophole?

Because "gun show" evokes an image, an emotion.

Facts only matter when it supports their feelings, but they will continue to pretend to be all about "facts".

It's what they serve at the buffet and they do it very well because there are legions of useful idiots bellying up and asking for thirds.

[Reagan1k 3,024]

4 minutes ago, Cajun said:

Because "gun show" evokes an image, an emotion.

Correct-  and the term loophole implies some intent to intentionally skirt a law or regulation.

tax loophole sounds worse than tax deduction, etc. 

Word matter to both sides when it comes to currying favor with those voters that don’t know the facts in any debate. 

[Armybrat 40,850]

21 minutes ago, 3adays said:

I’m in the market for a gun safe and a friend of mine who is the locksmith business said to stay away from Cannon or anything from Tractor Supply, Sam’s etc.

I was told to look at these two:

https://residential.amsecusa.com/residential-gun-safes/

https://www.gardall.com/view-product/fire-lined-gun-safes

The first link would be my choice of the two if the budget is substantial. Their safe shell construction is different and interesting.

The second link looks about like the midrange.  Better than what’s offered at most big box stores.

You could also consider this brand if $$ is no object:

http://www.graffundersafes.com

[CHIEF 5,091]

6 hours ago, Cajun said:

Today was the day that I learned that we are all pussies --

 

I can't imagine going through $180k worth of ammo in a minute.

CHIEF

[Cajun 11,705]

I'm pretty sure that's why they (military) felt ok w/the transaction.

On the other hand I would love to be a fly on the wall at AmmoSeek HQ when they read the email from the pissed off guy who demands to know why he can't buy 50K rounds of depleted uranium 20 mike mike on their site.

Edited March 28, 2021 by Cajun

[Speedtrucker 2,071]

Didn’t we relearn this last spring when 8mil new gun owners jumped on board and there was tons of talk about how they ranged from confusion on why they couldn’t just buy their gun and take it home right away, why they had to do a 4473, why they couldn’t get an actual assault rifle... I seem to remember talk about gun shows throwing added confusion to the uninformed.

It’s not just what you say it’s how you say it.

[Jkwellborn 6,704]

I can't imagine going through $180k worth of ammo in a minute.
CHIEF

I can’t imagine having the money to piss away on it. Lol.

[workswithseed 2,112]

On 3/24/2021 at 3:51 PM, davidg said:

 

Cutoff wheel and my 20v Dewalt grinder says I can get into one of those in less than a minute, but the would keep a gun out the hands of kids messing around.

 

I'd be surprised if a guy was just carrying just a cordless grinder around for just in cases.

[Cajun 11,705]

ORLY?

[TexasEd 8,067]

On 3/27/2021 at 6:51 PM, midtown said:

My son and I got out to my buddies ranch today to hit some clays. First use for both of our new shotguns


 

Very nice. Left one looks like a Beretta but I’m not placing the right one. Edit: I think right one looks like a Browning by the stock. 

Edited March 29, 2021 by TexasEd

[midtown 3,346]

11 hours ago, TexasEd said:

Very nice. Left one looks like a Beretta but I’m not placing the right one. Edit: I think right one looks like a Browning by the stock.

The left is my sons.  It's the Academy brand.  Yildis.  Mine in in the middle.  It's a Weatherby Orion.   

[Al Czervik 1,229]

29 minutes ago, midtown said:

The left is my sons.  It's the Academy brand.  Yildis.  Mine in in the middle.  It's a Weatherby Orion.   

Al has the Yildiz on the left in 20 gauge, the shell extractors push out the spent shells almost as far as my SKS, will put a sting on your if your not careful.  Is this normal?

I got mine 10 years ago and was able to pick from the 5-6 they had at the time, I was looking a the grain/finish, got the pick of the litter and on sale.

[bigshark88 388]

One phenomena that happens when you buy a gun safe is that all the family guns from all the attics/sock drawers wind up in your safe every time someone moves/dies.  If the extended family has cool shit - that's okay.  But my extended family apparently shopped the bargain rack.   

 

Just climbed down from the attic where I installed gun hooks on the 2/4s and hung: 

Savage 99 in 300 Savage

Remington 760 in 30-06 

Stevens 20ga SxS

Ithaca 37 in 16ga  

 

My gun safe is as big around as a refrigerator and it's jam full of my scoped hunting rifles and various other "family guns".  

[TexasEd 8,067]

1 hour ago, bigshark88 said:

One phenomena that happens when you buy a gun safe is that all the family guns from all the attics/sock drawers wind up in your safe every time someone moves/dies.  If the extended family has cool shit - that's okay.  But my extended family apparently shopped the bargain rack.   

 

Just climbed down from the attic where I installed gun hooks on the 2/4s and hung: 

Savage 99 in 300 Savage

Remington 760 in 30-06 

Stevens 20ga SxS

Ithaca 37 in 16ga  

 

My gun safe is as big around as a refrigerator and it's jam full of my scoped hunting rifles and various other "family guns".  

Watch those attic temps, they can crack a wood stock or warp a plastic one if the temp gets high enough.

[Armybrat 40,850]

2 hours ago, bigshark88 said:

One phenomena that happens when you buy a gun safe is that all the family guns from all the attics/sock drawers wind up in your safe every time someone moves/dies.  If the extended family has cool shit - that's okay.  But my extended family apparently shopped the bargain rack.   

 

Just climbed down from the attic where I installed gun hooks on the 2/4s and hung: 

Savage 99 in 300 Savage

Remington 760 in 30-06 

Stevens 20ga SxS

Ithaca 37 in 16ga  

 

My gun safe is as big around as a refrigerator and it's jam full of my scoped hunting rifles and various other "family guns".  

Time to get an additional safe.

[Armybrat 40,850]

Just went by an Academy - bought some more gun socks (great space & finish savers) - and noticed a new Ruger Max-9 in the display case. Clerk said they had six of them in the safe. $499.99 each. (That’s the MSRP)

very tempting.

Edited March 29, 2021 by Armybrat

[crimsonlonghorn 2,306]

On 3/24/2021 at 4:06 PM, Johnny Sack said:

Mine is a Winchester I bought at Costco for around $600 10+ years ago.  It works fine.  Not sure how many long guns it is rated for, but it is a tight fit since I have a lot of long guns and most have glass.  I am about to buy another and put it in my garage, which is climate controlled.

My overflow is in two of these rifle lockers (found pic on web), which you attach to your studs with lag bolts.  It's pretty damn secure because you can't reach the lag bolts while it is locked.  I keep my less sentimental/valuable pieces in it.  Someone would need to pack a lunch and have the right tools to walk off with those guns.

 

I think I paid around $75 each for this rifle locker on Sportsman's guide.  Pretty good option if you don't have the cash or the space for a safe.  Definitely just as kid proof as a safe.  

https://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/nahc-pistol-and-rifle-locker?a=439000

I dunno, I'm pretty sure when they were younger my kids would have figured out a way to tear those guns up and ruin the finish and plug the barrels in no time. 

[speed817 19,289]

After weeks of waiting, my 10.5" upper was finally delivered. Just waiting for my tax stamp to pair with my larue lower. 

[Armybrat 40,850]

By some miracle the USPS delivered this today...

 

[Armybrat 40,850]

[Armybrat 40,850]

Of course I’ll be making adjustments on its position as needed.

[davidg 4,038]

After weeks of waiting, my 10.5" upper was finally delivered. Just waiting for my tax stamp to pair with my larue lower. 

Do you have any other SBRs or AR pistols (don’t answer this)?

Having a short barreled upper and neither of the above, and posting about it online might be construed as constructive intent by overzealous 3 letter types. I was advised once not to store a short barrel uppers around regular AR rifles for that reason and to build up every lower as a pistol the first time mated to an upper.

Your guidance may be something else but just passing along what I was told.

[speed817 19,289]

45 minutes ago, davidg said:

Do you have any other SBRs or AR pistols (don’t answer this)?

Having a short barreled upper and neither of the above, and posting about it online might be construed as constructive intent by overzealous 3 letter types. I was advised once not to store a short barrel uppers around regular AR rifles for that reason and to build up every lower as a pistol the first time mated to an upper.

Your guidance may be something else but just passing along what I was told.

I appreciate the advice and I've already stored this upper at my parent's house until I get the go ahead to put everything together. That's what my brother told me to do when I started this process.

[Handcruser 2,805]

Yes, you should build lowers as pistols because then you have flexibility.

[ChickenSandwich 9,839]

Any recs for a solid complete lower pistol?