The Gun Owner’s thread

[BHMCruiser 1813]

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m not in a position to give advice,  but It’s hard to imagine a realistic scenario in any state in the continental US where passing though with a properly secured 6+1 lever action rifle causes a legal problem. 

If you drive through without stopping you are protected by the Firearm Owner’s Protection Act. If you stop for any meaningful period of time, you’re not. You cannot bring a firearm into Massachusetts without registering it with the state, which you cannot currently do (to cite but one example). And as for taking it into certain cities? You’re toast. 
 

sorry to be the bearer of bad news but taking an unregistered unlicensed firearm of any kind into some areas is a felony. Leaving it in your car is a felony. Taking it into a hotel is a felony. 
 

 

[Bozo_Casanova 26368]

37 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

If you drive through without stopping you are protected by the Firearm Owner’s Protection Act. If you stop for any meaningful period of time, you’re not. You cannot bring a firearm into Massachusetts without registering it with the state, which you cannot currently do (to cite but one example). And as for taking it into certain cities? You’re toast. 
 

Sure but what’s meaningful? I’m not trying to be combative, I’m just trying to ground the legal risk in scenarios where local law enforcement would reasonably get involved. 

[BHMCruiser 1813]

2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Sure but what’s meaningful? I’m not trying to be combative, I’m just trying to ground the legal risk in scenarios where local law enforcement would reasonably get involved. 

If you're in DC, New York, New Jersey, or Massachusetts they pride themselves on getting involved.

[deft 6808]

[Bozo_Casanova 26368]

8 minutes ago, BHMCruiser said:

If you're in DC, New York, New Jersey, or Massachusetts they pride themselves on getting involved.

Well OK, but what are we talking about here? If a person in New Jersey takes his lever gun in a locked case into a motel in Massachusetts it seems highly unlikely to cause a problem. Particularly since non-residents hunt in Massachusetts and NY for Deer and Bear regularly and legally. 
again, not arguing just trying to understand what is the reality of enforcement. 

Edited November 8 by Bozo_Casanova

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4968]

12 hours ago, Parliament said:

For all-around I'd go 30-30 with a low power scope, but there are plenty of good options.  .44 Mag would be my second choice.

ETA

I presume lever guns are legal everywhere.  You'll wanna confirm.

I wouldn't sleep on a .357 lever gun either. Other than the legal bit. 

12 hours ago, Parliament said:

For all-around I'd go 30-30 with a low power scope, but there are plenty of good options.  .44 Mag would be my second choice.

ETA

I presume lever guns are legal everywhere.  You'll wanna confirm.

I wouldn't sleep on a .357 lever gun either. Other than the legal bit. 

[Anastasis 23404]

On 11/5/2024 at 12:30 PM, Herbie Hancock said:

4 day turnaround. Is that good?

individual not trust right?

[General Specific 3242]

Well OK, but what are we talking about here? If a person in New Jersey takes his lever gun in a locked case into a motel in Massachusetts it seems highly unlikely to cause a problem. Particularly since non-residents hunt in Massachusetts and NY for Deer and Bear regularly and legally. 
again, not arguing just trying to understand what is the reality of enforcement. 

Lever action 30-30 and or .357? Yes please. Beautiful works, and is a great pass it on piece, if they survive the boat trip! Love the pics.

Disclaimer, IANAL! Others should jump in here. As this could be a good discussion / learning opportunity.

The laws state to state? IF is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Forget NFA/ATF items. Period, full stop if not dealing with known locations, just don’t! There is a form/process for that. Not too bad, but planned, known locations.

Moving on to everyday just get in a car and go things, is still problematic, even with normal items. But that is another problem, what is a normal item? What is legal here, may not be legal there. Capacity of a magazine is an issue for example.

How do you travel with one? Some were pointed out above, in car, hotel, which state/county/city… secured helps. But… not easy to answer. Gun and ammo separate or loaded?

LTC/CC holder? Reciprocity is still tricky if provided, although it’s not 188x, it’s still something to work through. There are some states / cities that are a hard pass (for me anyway), even with licensing / paperwork. Simply for the fact that one has to be 100% correct 100% every time. Even if you are right, it’s time and money! Whatever you have, the local government has more.

Hunting in another county, state, country, paperwork and processes. Most people are going to do that only (we get it, guys trip), get in, hunt, get out.

Driving state to state on a road trip? Hmmm, curious, more details are needed. What are your state laws? Where are you planning to go? One continuous trip, all states? Multiple trips over time? All in one, life bucket list with multiple or combo of things (sight seeing / hunting / camping)? It can probably be done, with a lot planning, and paperwork.

As asked, I would rather do a Cannonball run, than just jump in and drive (the speed limit), coast to coast packing, if the packages survive the boat trip!

[bernorange 8351]

Update for Illinois law:

https://www.gunowners.org/goa-victory-federal-judge-eviscerates-illinois-ar-15-30-round-magazine-ban-permanently-enjoins-enforcement/

[Lat22 4006]

10 hours ago, Anastasis said:

individual not trust right?

Trusts are coming back as fast now. My bank account is very nervous. 

[Anastasis 23404]

45 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

Trusts are coming back as fast now. My bank account is very nervous. 

No shit.  Make it rain tax stamps. 

[Parliament 14154]

22 hours ago, BHMCruiser said:

If you drive through without stopping you are protected by the Firearm Owner’s Protection Act. If you stop for any meaningful period of time, you’re not. You cannot bring a firearm into Massachusetts without registering it with the state, which you cannot currently do (to cite but one example). And as for taking it into certain cities? You’re toast. 
 

sorry to be the bearer of bad news but taking an unregistered unlicensed firearm of any kind into some areas is a felony. Leaving it in your car is a felony. Taking it into a hotel is a felony. 
 

 

Good Lord.  I had no idea.

[cabowabo 4474]

22 hours ago, BHMCruiser said:

If you drive through without stopping you are protected by the Firearm Owner’s Protection Act. If you stop for any meaningful period of time, you’re not. You cannot bring a firearm into Massachusetts without registering it with the state, which you cannot currently do (to cite but one example). And as for taking it into certain cities? You’re toast. 
 

sorry to be the bearer of bad news but taking an unregistered unlicensed firearm of any kind into some areas is a felony. Leaving it in your car is a felony. Taking it into a hotel is a felony. 
 

 

Hopefully with the glorious result of last Tuesday we can get some relief from Congress on these issues. 

[Party_Taco 3691]

Hopefully with the glorious result of last Tuesday we can get some relief from Congress on these issues. 

Fascist rule is generally known for loosening regulations on firearms… /noCR

Your best bet here is a complete dismantling of the ATF, not meaningful legislation with gun laws.

[Armybrat 40759]

14 hours ago, General Specific said:

Lever action 30-30 and or .357? Yes please. Beautiful works, and is a great pass it on piece, if they survive the boat trip! Love the pics.

Disclaimer, IANAL! Others should jump in here. As this could be a good discussion / learning opportunity.

The laws state to state? IF is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Forget NFA/ATF items. Period, full stop if not dealing with known locations, just don’t! There is a form/process for that. Not too bad, but planned, known locations.

Moving on to everyday just get in a car and go things, is still problematic, even with normal items. But that is another problem, what is a normal item? What is legal here, may not be legal there. Capacity of a magazine is an issue for example.

How do you travel with one? Some were pointed out above, in car, hotel, which state/county/city… secured helps. But… not easy to answer. Gun and ammo separate or loaded?

LTC/CC holder? Reciprocity is still tricky if provided, although it’s not 188x, it’s still something to work through. There are some states / cities that are a hard pass (for me anyway), even with licensing / paperwork. Simply for the fact that one has to be 100% correct 100% every time. Even if you are right, it’s time and money! Whatever you have, the local government has more.

Hunting in another county, state, country, paperwork and processes. Most people are going to do that only (we get it, guys trip), get in, hunt, get out.

Driving state to state on a road trip? Hmmm, curious, more details are needed. What are your state laws? Where are you planning to go? One continuous trip, all states? Multiple trips over time? All in one, life bucket list with multiple or combo of things (sight seeing / hunting / camping)? It can probably be done, with a lot planning, and paperwork.

As asked, I would rather do a Cannonball run, than just jump in and drive (the speed limit), coast to coast packing, if the packages survive the boat trip!

Bought my JM Marlin .30-30 new in 1968. $80, IIRC.

 

Edited November 9 by Armybrat

[Anastasis 23404]

2 hours ago, Party_Taco said:

Your best bet here is a complete dismantling of the ATF,

[General Specific 3242]

[Speedtrucker 2068]

There you go!

[Party_Taco 3691]

Dammit… my list just grew… that’s a beaut, Clark!

[Reagan1k 3017]

.338 ARC 

Hornadys’ answer to the 8.6, but in a more compact package.

Anyone diving into this rabbit hole yet? 

[noharleyyet 2837]

Holosun Green & halo charging handle

 

[Reagan1k 3017]

New addition....Win. Model 1905 Self Loading in .32 cal.

Pretty little gun.

 

 

[HOOKEM4 5033]

On 11/8/2024 at 12:15 PM, Reagan1k said:

Just roll in with a fully automatic SBR mounted with a can and a drum mag - That state's laws will be explained fully for you in no time - perfect clarity.

An fully auto AR-P with monkey nuts is legal in all 50 states. At least it seems so from the rappers I have heard.

Edited Tuesday at 10:35 PM by HOOKEM4
ousux

[Parliament 14154]

Early (pre WW1) semi-autos are fascinating.  Very complex, as we hadn't figured out things yet.

[BabaYaga 15238]

1 hour ago, Parliament said:

Early (pre WW1) semi-autos are fascinating.  Very complex, as we hadn't figured out things yet.

They're super cool.  It's wild to think that the basics of "modern" firearms have changed very little over the decades.  It's mainly construction materials, optics, and calibers.  

[Reagan1k 3017]

33 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

They're super cool.  It's wild to think that the basics of "modern" firearms have changed very little over the decades.  It's mainly construction materials, optics, and calibers.  

I've got another 1905 in .35win .  Slick little guns.

One of my biggest regrets is letting a 1907 (.351 SL) branded on the stock with markings from a Folsom Prison guard unit get away.   I should have held my nose at the price and just kept bidding.

[Armybrat 40759]

10 hours ago, Parliament said:

Early (pre WW1) semi-autos are fascinating.  Very complex, as we hadn't figured out things yet.

And expensive to manufacture.
That’s why the Remington Model 51 was dropped before WW2. 
This one was carried frequently by Mrs. Brat’s grandfather, a prominent builder in Taylor, from the 1920s until the early 1950s . 
High quality little .380 that shoots very well.

 

Edited Wednesday at 11:39 PM by Armybrat

[Parliament 14154]

"Prominent builder."  You mean gangster?

[BabaYaga 15238]

On 11/13/2024 at 5:35 PM, Armybrat said:

And expensive to manufacture.
That’s why the Remington Model 51 was dropped before WW2. 
This one was carried frequently by Mrs. Brat’s grandfather, a prominent builder in Taylor, from the 1920s until the early 1950s . 
High quality little .380 that shoots very well.

 

[Armybrat 40759]

I don’t get it?

[GottaB 591]

I don’t get it?

The gun frame is short in relation to the slide. It looks like an overbite.