The Gun Owner’s thread

[BHMCruiser 1806]

Love the Yosemite Sam approach

[59 Burst 434]

On 12/17/2023 at 11:27 AM, Armybrat said:

How the I.D.F. Uses the Ruger SR-22 and 10/22 in Israel & Gaza:

https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/10/21/israel-adopts-ruger-sr-22-in-less-lethal-sniper-role/

 

I had one of these. it is quiet, not Hollywood quiet, but pretty damn close considering you still have the noise of the bolt cycling. Their claim of 117db is subjective. It really depends on how sensitive your db equipment is. Where it is placed, and the atmosphere conditions. But, it is quieter than any 300 blackout or 5.56 suppressed that I have worked with, and I load my own ammo.

However $2200 is steep considering you still must supply a barrel and open up the barrel channel on your stock. And at the end of the day you still have a .22 rimfire.
 

 

https://libertycans.net/product/idf-10-22-integrally-suppressed-barrel/

[Elvis 3348]

22 hours ago, Elvis said:

We had a fun day target shooting this weekend in Abilene. It made for a nice afternoon away from the women with my older son and my brother. 
 

More guns not pictured. 
 

 

A side note:  I used roofer yard signs to hold up the Shoot-N-C targets.  They worked perfectly.  I also brought roofer sand bags that I use for holding tarps down on metal or tile roofs.  I set them up along with yoga mats to make a prone shooting position.  They also worked perfectly.

My son (14) was shooting a spread the size of a quarter in prone position with his inherited 22 automatic rifle at 30 yards with open sights.  That's pretty good for his first day with live amunition.  His uncle was spotting him with glass, but it wasn't really needed with the glow shot targets and my son's young eyes.

 

It was a great day and we ran out of time before we ran out of ammo.

[speed817 18926]

Just picked up a few HK 15 round mags.  I like the look....

[ChickenNuggets 1606]

2 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Just picked up a few HK 15 round mags.  I like the look....

I think it just moved... nice.

[noharleyyet 2826]

Have too many K frame .357 in the safe but sorta like this M25

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/model-25-s-w-classics-6-1-2-blue

 

[Reagan1k 3002]

1 hour ago, noharleyyet said:

Have too many K frame .357 in the safe but sorta like this M25

https://www.smith-wesson.com/product/model-25-s-w-classics-6-1-2-blue

 

Ha!  Pretty gun.  I've been watching a couple of granddads.

1955 S&W 25-2

1955 S&W 25-2 3 5/8"

[Armybrat 40559]

Reminiscing a bit today about gifting firearms….

Gifted over the past 55 years to my three sons, three grandsons, granddaughter, daughter in law, brother, mother in law, landman friend.

Service Six .357
Ruger LCP (2)
Ruger LCP Max
Ruger 10/22 (3)
Ruger Super Blackhawk
Ruger Blackhawk .357
Ruger SR45
Ruger SR9 (2)
Kahr PM9
Kahr CW45
Kahr CT380
Remington RM380 (2)
Remington R1 .45 (3)
Remington Wingmaster 12 ga.
Remington 1100 12 ga.
Winchester Model 94 .30-30
Winchester Model 67A (2) .22
Springfield Armory GI .45
Browning Safari (2) .243 & .30-06
Stevens SS .22
H&R Topper 20 ga. (3)
JM Marlin 336 .30-30
S&W Model 13
S&W Model 36
S&W Model 29
S&W Shield 9mm
S&W Sport AR15
North American Arms Mini .22lr
Colt AR LE6920
Colt Government 1911 Series 70 .45

(may have forgotten a couple more)

[Armybrat 40559]

Add a Kahr CW9 to that list.

[solamente73 1129]

3 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Reminiscing a bit today about gifting firearms….

Gifted over the past 55 years to my three sons, three grandsons, granddaughter, daughter in law, brother, mother in law, landman friend.

Service Six .357
Ruger LCP (2)
Ruger LCP Max
Ruger 10/22 (3)
Ruger Super Blackhawk
Ruger Blackhawk .357
Ruger SR45
Ruger SR9 (2)
Kahr PM9
Kahr CW45
Kahr CT380
Remington RM380 (2)
Remington R1 .45 (3)
Remington Wingmaster 12 ga.
Remington 1100 12 ga.
Winchester Model 94 .30-30
Winchester Model 67A (2) .22
Springfield Armory GI .45
Browning Safari (2) .243 & .30-06
Stevens SS .22
H&R Topper 20 ga. (3)
JM Marlin 336 .30-30
S&W Model 13
S&W Model 36
S&W Model 29
S&W Shield 9mm
S&W Sport AR15
North American Arms Mini .22lr
Colt AR LE6920
Colt Government 1911 Series 70 .45

(may have forgotten a couple more)

 

2 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Add a Kahr CW9 to that list.

It is so, so sad that they were lost in all those terrible boating accidents over the years.  Still mourning those losses for you and your family.

[Armybrat 40559]

[ChickenNuggets 1606]

3 hours ago, Armybrat said:

Add a Kahr CW9 to that list.

Hey Dad! Probably don't remember me, but I deserve a gun too...

[Fat Bastard 617]

Looking at a .308 as a hog rifle that both me and my 10 year old can shoulder. Possibly will put thermal on it down the road. Would like to keep it under $1500.  So far, have it narrowed down to Tikka T3x vs Bergara B14 Ridge (guy at Carter’s showed me one with a carbon fiber barrel - don’t know anything about longevity/benfits of such). Would appreciate some guidance and further recs. Could be swayed to up it to the Springfield Armory 2020 Waypoint if anyone thinks it’s a definite upgrade over the two above. 

[Herbie Hancock 7275]

Why do you have a budget? Aren't you a cardiologist??

In all seriousness, I have the Ruger Precision and Savage Model 10 BA Stealth. They're both right at 10 pounds, but the Savage has a 3" longer barrel. I like them both but typically reach for the Savage.

If you're just wanting something for popping pork, have you looked at Ruger American line? That one would leave you enough money in the budget to snag a can like a Hybrid46.

[Crapinon 2242]

1 hour ago, Fat Bastard said:

Looking at a .308 as a hog rifle that both me and my 10 year old can shoulder. Possibly will put thermal on it down the road. Would like to keep it under $1500.  So far, have it narrowed down to Tikka T3x vs Bergara B14 Ridge (guy at Carter’s showed me one with a carbon fiber barrel - don’t know anything about longevity/benfits of such). Would appreciate some guidance and further recs. Could be swayed to up it to the Springfield Armory 2020 Waypoint if anyone thinks it’s a definite upgrade over the two above. 

I'm looking at getting a Ruger SFAR.

.308 in an AR-15 sized rifle. I think they're around $1K before accessories. 

[MontereyMX 836]

Diamond Back DB 10 in the .308 will knock them (hogs)on their ass

Edited December 23, 2023 by MontereyMXmuthafucka
idiot

[Fat Bastard 617]

1 hour ago, Herbie Hancock said:

Why do you have a budget? Aren't you a cardiologist??

In all seriousness, I have the Ruger Precision and Savage Model 10 BA Stealth. They're both right at 10 pounds, but the Savage has a 3" longer barrel. I like them both but typically reach for the Savage.

If you're just wanting something for popping pork, have you looked at Ruger American line? That one would leave you enough money in the budget to snag a can like a Hybrid46.

The budget will be blown on a 5k thermal!

[Fat Bastard 617]

Not looking for anything “tactical”. Need simplicity. And bolt action 

[Crapinon 2242]

24 minutes ago, Fat Bastard said:

Not looking for anything “tactical”. Need simplicity. And bolt action 

I understand. I just like it because it's light weight and the size of an AR-15. It's accurate to 500 or so yards (or so I've read) and has .308 knockdown power. 

[Armybrat 40559]

Monday’s gun gifts…
Identical CZ75 Compact 9mm pistols for my two older sons.
Ruger Max 9mm for granddaughter’s fiancée.
Extra magazines for all three guns.
Two boxes of 9mm range ammo for each gun.
(They can buy their own self defense ammunition- that’s a personal choice).
 

[Anastasis 23215]

I am doing Xmas gifts wrong. 

[Lat22 3951]

6 hours ago, Fat Bastard said:

The budget will be blown on a 5k thermal!

 

[Handcruser 2802]

Looking at a .308 as a hog rifle that both me and my 10 year old can shoulder. Possibly will put thermal on it down the road. Would like to keep it under $1500.  So far, have it narrowed down to Tikka T3x vs Bergara B14 Ridge (guy at Carter’s showed me one with a carbon fiber barrel - don’t know anything about longevity/benfits of such). Would appreciate some guidance and further recs. Could be swayed to up it to the Springfield Armory 2020 Waypoint if anyone thinks it’s a definite upgrade over the two above. 

You’re making good choices. I’m on a similar hunt and leaning 260 rem.

B14 and T3x are all great rigs. 308 barrel wear would not be a concern for me. I’d go carbon in the B14 - especially if surpressed.

Waypoint - I love this rig. All carbon fiber, 20” barrel - just fuxking awesome. I love the way it feels when I shoulder. Is it worth an extra $800? Probably not, although I might do one in 6mm one day.

If I don’t do a custom build, I’ll do a B14 with steel barrel in 308 and throw on a proof 260 barrel. The 260 rem round is just so sweet.

I'm looking at getting a Ruger SFAR.
.308 in an AR-15 sized rifle. I think they're around $1K before accessories. 

Solid choice if you want an ar10.

[Handcruser 2802]

And if you guys aren’t looking at 6.5 grendel you’re missing out.

[Speedtrucker 2059]

Have a buddy that bought a sig cross and waypoint. One in 6.5cm and one in .308… don’t know which is which but he said he likes the weight reduction of cross but he keeps going back to the waypoint.

[Da Fino 2669]

15 hours ago, Fat Bastard said:

Looking at a .308 as a hog rifle that both me and my 10 year old can shoulder. Possibly will put thermal on it down the road. Would like to keep it under $1500.  So far, have it narrowed down to Tikka T3x vs Bergara B14 Ridge (guy at Carter’s showed me one with a carbon fiber barrel - don’t know anything about longevity/benfits of such). Would appreciate some guidance and further recs. Could be swayed to up it to the Springfield Armory 2020 Waypoint if anyone thinks it’s a definite upgrade over the two above. 

I’ve talked to two guys recently that have had accuracy issues with newer Bergara’s. 

[williemackgarza 1826]

Suppresmas came early!!!
3 cans bought in April from Silencer Shop in Cedar Park. Got the ATF notice this week. 2 each Texas Silencer Co .22 Scoundrels and 1 Dead Air Odessa 9.

[Reagan1k 3002]

14 hours ago, Handcruser said:

And if you guys aren’t looking at 6.5 grendel you’re missing out.

This!!! Howa Mini-Action or Ruger American in 6.5 Grendel for a lightweight accurate bolt gun…..hell, you could buy one of the above and an AR in same with that budget. 2-fer-1.  Helluva hog / whitetail round and as soft as shooting a .22WM. 
 

[Handcruser 2802]

This!!! Howa Mini-Action or Ruger American in 6.5 Grendel for a lightweight accurate bolt gun…..hell, you could buy one of the above and an AR in same with that budget. 2-fer-1.  Helluva hog / whitetail round and as soft as shooting a .22WM. 
 

I’ve got that Ruger American in 300BO and it’s a nice little gun.

6.5G has more energy at 1000 than .308 M80 ball I believe. M80 is underpowered though.

6.5G needs a 24” barrel to extract the most out of it, but 12”-18” - it’s lethal out to 250ish maybe 300 with 18”. It’s a great fucking round.

Works great in AR-15 platform too.

[Speedtrucker 2059]

Been thinking about a howa mini action and dropping in a shorty lightweight chasis.

Make a poor man’s Q fix or poorer man’s elf owl/pork sword.

But I’ve got a 8.6blk upper plan along with a suppressor that would work with it…. My wife is gonna killed me

[Fat Bastard 617]

I’ve got a Q fix in 6.5CM. Probably my least favorite rifle. If I didn’t already have >2000 rounds for it already, I’d probably sell it. 

[Reagan1k 3002]

On 12/24/2023 at 8:18 PM, Fat Bastard said:

I’ve got a Q fix in 6.5CM. Probably my least favorite rifle. If I didn’t already have >2000 rounds for it already, I’d probably sell it. 

Porque ?  Round, chassis? What?

very curious bc I’ve got one of my list… not necessarily the CM, but the Fix. 

[Frank Drebin 5361]

I usually buy guns from Carrolls in Wharton. 

I am looking to buy a couple extra ARs today or tomorrow in calibers I don't have.  Any reccos in Houston?  I don't feel like driving to Wharton today.

Is Collectors worth a damn?  I bought from them 20 years ago and thought they were assholes.  But that is not uncommon in the gun world.

Carters usually does not have the best collection, IIRC.

[Fat Bastard 617]

Collectors is a rip off. 

[Fat Bastard 617]

3 hours ago, Reagan1k said:

Porque ?  Round, chassis? What?

very curious bc I’ve got one of my list… not necessarily the CM, but the Fix. 

The round is fine. Haven’t loved the balance of the gun. Bolt isn’t slippery smooth. Not as accurate as I’d like (probably more me than anything else). 
 

Probably all minor gripes, but of the 10 or so rifles I own, probably my least favorite to shoot.  That and my HK 416 5.56 (mostly because that rifle is heavy AF)

5 minutes ago, Fat Bastard said:

Collectors is a rip off. 

Couldn’t edit. I use them for all my ffl xfers tho. $20

[Frank Drebin 5361]

46 minutes ago, Fat Bastard said:

The round is fine. Haven’t loved the balance of the gun. Bolt isn’t slippery smooth. Not as accurate as I’d like (probably more me than anything else). 
 

Probably all minor gripes, but of the 10 or so rifles I own, probably my least favorite to shoot.  That and my HK 416 5.56 (mostly because that rifle is heavy AF)

Couldn’t edit. I use them for all my ffl xfers tho. $20

Any place in Houston you like?

[Fat Bastard 617]

1 hour ago, Frank Drebin said:

Any place in Houston you like?

TBH, 90% of the guns I’ve purchased have been online with FFL xfers. Collectors has a great selection, for sure, but they have a significant markup compared to what you’ll see online/MSRP. Carters has been pretty solid and they can do a store xfer if they have it in the system.
 

Otherwise, I’d check out some of the ranges like Athena, Top Gun, or Texas Gun Club and ask around. 

[BabaYaga 15184]

On 12/24/2023 at 10:59 AM, Handcruser said:

I’ve got that Ruger American in 300BO and it’s a nice little gun.

6.5G has more energy at 1000 than .308 M80 ball I believe. M80 is underpowered though.

6.5G needs a 24” barrel to extract the most out of it, but 12”-18” - it’s lethal out to 250ish maybe 300 with 18”. It’s a great fucking round.

Works great in AR-15 platform too.

7-08 < 500yds beats them both

[BabaYaga 15184]

On 12/23/2023 at 8:20 AM, Fat Bastard said:

Looking at a .308 as a hog rifle that both me and my 10 year old can shoulder. Possibly will put thermal on it down the road. Would like to keep it under $1500.  So far, have it narrowed down to Tikka T3x vs Bergara B14 Ridge (guy at Carter’s showed me one with a carbon fiber barrel - don’t know anything about longevity/benfits of such). Would appreciate some guidance and further recs. Could be swayed to up it to the Springfield Armory 2020 Waypoint if anyone thinks it’s a definite upgrade over the two above. 

Tikka of the two listed.  Carbon barrel is for weight and heat dispersion.  For set shooting at night, not really much benefit.  If I was building, I'd look at the new Ruger American Gen II ($750 +/-).  Comes in 6.5CM, .308, and 7-08

[Armybrat 40559]

2 hours ago, Fat Bastard said:

Collectors is a rip off. 

Top dollar for sure, but they have a lot of cool antique inventory.

[Armybrat 40559]

On 12/23/2023 at 9:48 AM, Crapinon said:

I'm looking at getting a Ruger SFAR.

.308 in an AR-15 sized rifle. I think they're around $1K before accessories. 

https://tombstonetactical.com/product/ruger-sfar-7.62-308-win-20-20rd?trk_msg=C7NEEVLT658K91I84HVP4QPK9G&trk_contact=0OVE4VT4E6LN8EAO7JADC11GNC&trk_sid=SKSPEN4K6IH9T7V3UB9KGOMDIG&trk_link=1375BQ6JP5I4DE3EG9OVAG1V44&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Ruger+SFAR+7.62NATO+20%26quot%3B+(image)&utm_campaign=308&utm_content=12.26.23

[Armybrat 40559]

[Crapinon 2242]

3 hours ago, Armybrat said:

https://tombstonetactical.com/product/ruger-sfar-7.62-308-win-20-20rd?trk_msg=C7NEEVLT658K91I84HVP4QPK9G&trk_contact=0OVE4VT4E6LN8EAO7JADC11GNC&trk_sid=SKSPEN4K6IH9T7V3UB9KGOMDIG&trk_link=1375BQ6JP5I4DE3EG9OVAG1V44&utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=email&utm_term=Ruger+SFAR+7.62NATO+20%26quot%3B+(image)&utm_campaign=308&utm_content=12.26.23

Christmas eve I was on a local gun trading group and lo and behold someone had one for sale with a scope already mounted. No transfer fee, shipping or taxes. I hope I can pick it up Thursday. It's like Santa wanted me to have it.

[Lat22 3951]

10 hours ago, Frank Drebin said:

I usually buy guns from Carrolls in Wharton.

I’ve driven past them a bazillion times and never stopped. Do they have a lot of inventory?

[fattyflattie 4633]

16 minutes ago, Lat22 said:

I’ve driven past them a bazillion times and never stopped. Do they have a lot of inventory?

Pretty good stop, as long as you don’t get behind a train.  

[Handcruser 2802]

I usually buy guns from Carrolls in Wharton. 
I am looking to buy a couple extra ARs today or tomorrow in calibers I don't have.  Any reccos in Houston?  I don't feel like driving to Wharton today.
Is Collectors worth a damn?  I bought from them 20 years ago and thought they were assholes.  But that is not uncommon in the gun world.
Carters usually does not have the best collection, IIRC.

Buy yet? If not what are you looking for?

I’ve driven past them a bazillion times and never stopped. Do they have a lot of inventory?

Cop shop. Decent inventory, but very nice people. I’d buy from them.

[Frank Drebin 5361]

9 hours ago, Handcruser said:

Buy yet? If not what are you looking for?
Cop shop. Decent inventory, but very nice people. I’d buy from them.

I want an ar in a 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor 

Carroll’s is great.  It and that place in Eagle Lake are two of my favorite gun stores.  
 

I also am looking at a new pistol for carrying.  What I have now is either too big or too small.  I want a true small carry 9mm.  Thinking about the Sig P365XL.  

[Handcruser 2802]

I want an ar in a 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor 
Carroll’s is great.  It and that place in Eagle Lake are two of my favorite gun stores.  
 
I also am looking at a new pistol for carrying.  What I have now is either too big or too small.  I want a true small carry 9mm.  Thinking about the Sig P365XL.  

Budget?

What do you carry now

[fattyflattie 4633]

7 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I want an ar in a 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor 

Carroll’s is great.  It and that place in Eagle Lake are two of my favorite gun stores.  
 

I also am looking at a new pistol for carrying.  What I have now is either too big or too small.  I want a true small carry 9mm.  Thinking about the Sig P365XL.  

Johnny’s is a treasure for all things outdoors. 

[ChickenNuggets 1606]

13 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

I want an ar in a 308 and 6.5 Creedmoor 

Carroll’s is great.  It and that place in Eagle Lake are two of my favorite gun stores.  
 

I also am looking at a new pistol for carrying.  What I have now is either too big or too small.  I want a true small carry 9mm.  Thinking about the Sig P365XL.  

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