The Gun Owner’s thread

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4968]

Cheap ball 9mm may be more effective on small to medium sized varmints than fmj .223, and it has enough effective range for most ranch type use, so add that to the muzzle blast and noise business.

[Speedtrucker 2063]

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Regarding 9mm at builds: what benefit do you get from a pistol cartridge in a rifle? Serious question. Nowhere near the same stopping power right?

For home defense the ar9 is kinda a bridge between a pistol and an ar15.

So a longer sight radius, more manageable recoil, added velocity and shared mags with/than a pistol.

More compact than an AR15 (outside of an sbr or pistol) also the ability to suppress vs an ar15 with a shorter barrel. A sub-10” barrel on a 5.56 is still gonna be painful in a home without earpro even while supressed, whereas an AR9 suppressed in a home would be near safe levels.

Almost everyone I know who has an AR9, has them as their home defense firearm. Of them, most have them suppressed. They’ve replaced their shottys and almost all of them own a glock so they already had mags galore.

[Speedtrucker 2063]

I'll add that we gun folks here also have all have a bit of lemming in us and the 9mm carbines have become all the range and trend. Some if not a lot of folks will fall in line and get one.

This is no way a slam. Just a note of the current industry trend and our (gun nuts) desire to obtain and own the next new thing. Because we're junkies in need of a fix. Note, I used pronouns that include me.

Lol also this...

 

Which is why I bought a 300blk, we didn’t really need it but it was time to buy my son a rifle we could share and I really wanted to jump on the bandwagon especially since I had my first supressor in jail.

 

Same goes for the AR9... again it’s chasing the dragon.

 

I’ll also add my own boogaloo thought is that I have .308, AR 5.56, AR 300blk, 1911 .45 but my EDC is HK 9mm which means I can’t take/share mags... so if I had an AR9 I could use everyone else’s Glock mags with ease. Really it’s just me justifying my govt check coming soon should go towards more firearms.

 

I mean hell seeing y’all wheel guns in here always tempts me to want one

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

I went into Academy just now to get some new hinges for my igloo cooler and the guns and ammo aisles look like empty bread and water shelves during a hurricane (“Limit 3 Units per customer”). The line at the gun counter was three deep to look at overpriced low-quality Academy guns. 

 All I could do was giggle a tiny bit and feel a little satisfied that for all of my anxiety this week, not being sufficiently armed wasn’t part of it. 

All that being said, I regularly order 3-4 flats of AA 20 ga #9 from Academy each month to feed my skeet habit because they sell it so cheap with free shipping. If they start to cut that supply train off I’m going to be pissed. Might have to finally start reloading all these hulls I have lying around (if I can find powder and shot dammit). 

Edited March 19, 2020 by crimsonlonghorn

[Speedtrucker 2063]

I’ll probably regret this but the couple of Gebos I’ve been to have ammo still, not 9mm but most everything else

[BabaYaga 15209]

1 hour ago, Speedtrucker said:

Almost everyone I know who has an AR9, has them as their home defense firearm. Of them, most have them suppressed. They’ve replaced their shottys and almost all of them own a glock so they already had mags galore.

This.  Basically every advantage of a pistol, but on steroids.  Suppressed, they are a blast to shoot.  

[elguapo 4583]

I have a Ruger PC9 on the way from gunbuyer. Been poking around trying to find some range ammo and holy shit everyone is out.

[Reagan1k 3016]

I LOVE shooting pistol caliber carbines, but I have to hold my nose when it comes to the aesthetics. 

There's something about the large mag-well and the skinny magazine that makes me cringe.  Doesn't stop me from using them, but for selfish reasons I wish the mag wells extended so the appearance was more like the traditional rifle caliber versions. 

I'm sure I'll get over it but I love the function while hating the looks.  I guess it's my OCD wanting clean lines and consistent dimensions after handling the larger rifles for so many years.

Edited March 19, 2020 by Reagan1k

[cabowabo 4451]

 

 

 

I LOVE shooting pistol caliber carbines, but I have to hold my nose when it comes to the aesthetics. There's something about the large mag-well and the skinny magazine that makes me cringe.  .

 

I have no idea what you're talking about. Edit. Looks even better with a magazine.

 

 

 

[deft 6797]

Ok sounds pretty good. Any recs on a pcc that takes g17 mags, and cab mound a red dot and light?

[BabaYaga 15209]

12 minutes ago, deft said:

Ok sounds pretty good. Any recs on a pcc that takes g17 mags, and cab mound a red dot and light?

Ruger PCC

 

 

Edited March 19, 2020 by BabaYaga

[deft 6797]

Damn that looks long. I guess I was picturing something in an AR format with a pistol brace and an octane45 on the business end. Any optimal barrel length for 9mm on a pcc?

[BabaYaga 15209]

Breaks down - barrel and stock.  Can fit in your wife's over sized purse

[Speedtrucker 2063]

Cmmg Banshee


Or for cost savers the PSA-9 from palmetto state but theirs don’t have last round bolt hold open yet.

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

Goddamit.

[Reagan1k 3016]

56 minutes ago, cabowabo said:

 

 

 

 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about. Edit. Looks even better with a magazine.

 

 

 

You dog!  That's a beauty and on my list.  Such clean lines.

[Reagan1k 3016]

4 minutes ago, crimsonlonghorn said:

Goddamit.

Yep - and the worst part about this is that as ammo mfgs ramp up to fill needs / restock, they'll move production away from less popular calibers and then all of a sudden supply of that stuff will drop causing those prices to rise along the demand curve as well.

[Speedtrucker 2063]

Seeing tons of ammo not in this list:
9mm
45acp
5.56 & 223
7.62 & 308 (still decent amounts of hunting 308 boxes tho)
300blk
7.62x39


Up until today I was seeing 300blk jhp rounds still on the shelves and only all the fmj was being bought up. Now most of it is gone.

Cabelas was a long ass line of people buying firearms today.

Guy at my lgs was joking that he’s had multiple people from Cali and anti-gun come in wanting to buy firearms. Had a Toyota guy come in telling him he’s anti-gun but “I guess I get it now” and also complained when he was presented a 4473 to fill out. Asked why he had to do that, then after explanation asked “why he wouldn’t have to do this at a gunshow?!?”

Amusing.

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

19 minutes ago, Reagan1k said:

Yep - and the worst part about this is that as ammo mfgs ramp up to fill needs / restock, they'll move production away from less popular calibers and then all of a sudden supply of that stuff will drop causing those prices to rise along the demand curve as well.

I found some slightly more expensive on Grabagun with no limits, so I bought 40 boxes just to add to my stash. All in with shipping + the tiny bit of extra tax it works out to 10% more than the Academy price.

But the Academy lowest market price + free shipping - even including sales tax - is going to be hard to beat in the long run. I sure hope this is temporary. 

Edited March 19, 2020 by crimsonlonghorn

[Parliament 14130]

Folks, take note. This right here is the proper way to humblebrag.

 
 
 

 
I have no idea what you're talking about. Edit. Looks even better with a magazine.
 
 

 

[Speedtrucker 2063]

  

 

 

 

I have no idea what you're talking about. Edit. Looks even better with a magazine.

 

 

 

 

Nice Zenith. Is that an Omega-9k on it?

 

Now that HK is exporting their pistols finally, if I’m ever reach enough I’d love to buy one of theirs.

 

Until then I wouldn’t mind a GSG or Zenith arms MP5 clone.

[cabowabo 4451]

18 minutes ago, Speedtrucker said:

 Is that an Omega-9k on it?

Yes sir. 

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

9 hours ago, crimsonlonghorn said:

I went into Academy just now to get some new hinges for my igloo cooler and the guns and ammo aisles look like empty bread and water shelves during a hurricane (“Limit 3 Units per customer”). The line at the gun counter was three deep to look at overpriced low-quality Academy guns. 

 All I could do was giggle a tiny bit and feel a little satisfied that for all of my anxiety this week, not being sufficiently armed wasn’t part of it. 

All that being said, I regularly order 3-4 flats of AA 20 ga #9 from Academy each month to feed my skeet habit because they sell it so cheap with free shipping. If they start to cut that supply train off I’m going to be pissed. Might have to finally start reloading all these hulls I have lying around (if I can find powder and shot dammit). 

You can’t be that anxious if you’re going to academy for cooler hinges. 
 

anyway, recs for a polymer owb holster with thumb break?  And belt or paddle?  Oh, for open carry

Edited March 20, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[Jkwellborn 6653]

Fuck a paddle holster.

[Archer 474]

I love my Scorpion, 35 rounds of 147gr subsonic goodness. 
 

[cabowabo 4451]

I love my Scorpion, 35 rounds of 147gr subsonic goodness. 
 

I highly recommend the HB Industries 6.84 inch handguard to shroud the can.

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

19 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

In relationship to the Covid guns and ammo run local LGS guy called me on an item today.

Store was packed all day on guns and ammo runs. Particular story he told me was 2 different 60+ women came in today looking to make their first gun purchases.

The irony is tragic. Both owners are over 60 too and I fear for their well being. Nobody in the Podunk towns know wtf to do as I don't think they understand what is really going on.

I was the only person in the gun stores I was in last Friday.  Of course, every wyomingite has multiple platforms and pallets of ammunition. 

[Archer 474]

6 minutes ago, cabowabo said:

I highly recommend the HB Industries 6.84 inch handguard to shroud the can.

4” barrel? I’m assuming so with the slider. How does the extended handguard work with the Silncerco faux can? 

[cabowabo 4451]

 

3 minutes ago, Archer said:

4” barrel? I’m assuming so with the slider. How does the extended handguard work with the Silncerco faux can? 

Yeah, it’s a Micro. The faux can was the first thing I removed when I bought it. Pretty sure this handguard would be too long for it. 

[Richter 2230]

Joining the club.... My wife wanted a shotgun all of a sudden, but we ended up buying an AR-15 - a Springfield Saint...  https://www.rkguns.com/springfield-saint-desert-fde-5-56mm-ar-15-30rd-16-rifle-w-free-float-handguard-st916556fdeffh.html

my ex boss runs a training school so I listened to him.

Have a pistol that my FIL gave me, but it was an interesting second gun purchase. Spent a lot on a whim, so I’m sure we overpaid but oh well. 

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

Saint is a nice gun. I'm personally interested in their .308 AR10 but can't justify the $$$ compared to just buying another one from PSA. 

That said, a cheap 12 gauge pump gun usually sn't a bad choice. 

[BabaYaga 15209]

9 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

Oh yeah, Pato, I'd you're willing to wait, don't mind leather and you want what I feel is the best holster available anywhere this is what I run my fancy Ed Browns our of when OWB:

I-BAK | Milt Sparks Holsters
https://www.miltsparks.com/products-i-bak.php

I also run my 1911s in VM2 for IWB.

[Armybrat 40729]

18 hours ago, Reagan1k said:

Yep - and the worst part about this is that as ammo mfgs ramp up to fill needs / restock, they'll move production away from less popular calibers and then all of a sudden supply of that stuff will drop causing those prices to rise along the demand curve as well.

Am glad I bought 500 rounds of .327 Federal and 200 rounds of .32 S&W Long last year. For my two Rugers (Single Seven & SP101).

Have gobs of .380 to share with my kids, but am too late about replenishing the 9mm after buying the two SR9 Rugers late last year. Only have 150 rounds of 115 grain range ammo for them - not even enough for a function check. I had given several hundred round of the 9mm to my kids the last couple of years.

Plenty of .357 & 38 Special. Also 200 rounds of .45 Colt for the SAA commemorative.

Still have six bricks of .22lr and one of .22 Short

Only have 120 rounds of .30-30 for my 103 year old Winchester 1894 levergun. 

[Archer 474]

11 hours ago, crimsonlonghorn said:

Saint is a nice gun. I'm personally interested in their .308 AR10 but can't justify the $$$ compared to just buying another one from PSA. 

That said, a cheap 12 gauge pump gun usually sn't a bad choice. 

I want the Saint .308 as well, PSA just had them for $1100 which seemed reasonable. Unfortunately with $25 oil I’m not buying anytime soon. 

[CycleTex87 2953]

14 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I was the only person in the gun stores I was in last Friday.  Of course, every wyomingite has multiple platforms and pallets of ammunition. 

We had active shooter training at our company a few months ago.  The county constable instructor put up a US map of all the mass shootings in the last 30 years.  None in Wyoming.  I popped off and said - Hey, Wyoming looks safe!  Cop turned around and said “that’s because they are all armed; hard targets not soft targets”. 

[Pato del Muerto 52340]

Just now, CycleTex87 said:

We had active shooter training at our company a few months ago.  The county constable instructor put up a US map of all the mass shootings in the last 30 years.  None in Wyoming.  I popped off and said - Hey, Wyoming looks safe!  Cop turned around and said “that’s because they are all armed; hard targets not soft targets”. 

He’s not wrong. There’s an assured mutual destruction thing here.  

[Armybrat 40729]

5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

He’s not wrong. There’s an assured mutual destruction thing here.  

No, there is assured bad guy destruction thing there.

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

56 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

No, there is assured bad guy destruction thing there.

There won’t be any mass shootings, that’s for sure. 

[Handcruser 2805]

6 pmags for 556. 30 rounders. 3 with ammo

$75

Leander. Get at me.


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[deft 6797]

I’d buy that off of ya were I still there. You shouldn’t have too hard a time offloading.

I picked up a ghost connector for my new 43. Trigger seemed heavier after install. Turns out I already have a “minus” connector. Any experience?

[Handcruser 2805]

1070 rounds 556 as well I could be talked into selling


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[bigshark88 388]

Who are these people who all of a sudden need ammo?

If I didn't know better I'd suspect that the industry uses excuses to fabricate shortages / demand to unload their shit at higher prices.

[cabowabo 4451]

Got my new hog rig in today (Tavor 7). May have to quarantine my ass to the pig stand tomorrow night to see if I can get my first kill with it. It's a heavy SOB, especially with the thermal, but because most of the weight is to the rear, it's pretty easy to shoot without a rest. The recoil is also pretty tame. It's a little louder with the can than my AR10, but I can get buy shooting a few rounds without earpro.

[Speedtrucker 2063]

Who are these people who all of a sudden need ammo?

If I didn't know better I'd suspect that the industry uses excuses to fabricate shortages / demand to unload their shit at higher prices.

Honestly I’m not seeing much of any markup on ammo. There is no shortage at the manufacturing side and no laws restricting so it’s really just a run in in-stock supply.

However that never stopped cheaperthandirt from trying to fuck over everyone and markup prices any chance they could. Fuck them again, they deserve a certain type of hell for the shit they pull.

[bigshark88 388]

I just don't get the runs on ammo / guns when shit gets hairy.

We're comfortable being armed for (among other reasons): SHTF scenarios in the first place...

So when SHTF we need to all of a sudden run out and make sure we have ammo? Doesn't every gun owner already have a pile saved up?

[Speedtrucker 2063]

It seems to be more first time buyers in this situation.

Like I just went out and topped off my hunting and self defense ammo more than my Funtime ammo. Mainly because I still want to be able to take a hog or two if we don’t get put into a full lockdown.

Seems like a lot of first time and non-gun enthusiasts have been keeping this run in high gear. The types that might have a gun but just a single box of ammo they bought a while back type...

None of my friends have been stocking up this week, in fact one of my friends has been selling off about 5k rounds of .308

[Fondren & Main 6665]

10 hours ago, CycleTex87 said:

We had active shooter training at our company a few months ago.  The county constable instructor put up a US map of all the mass shootings in the last 30 years.  None in Wyoming.  I popped off and said - Hey, Wyoming looks safe!  Cop turned around and said “that’s because they are all armed; hard targets not soft targets”. 

 

[crimsonlonghorn 2306]

10 hours ago, Speedtrucker said:

However that never stopped cheaperthandirt from trying to fuck over everyone and markup prices any chance they could. Fuck them again, they deserve a certain type of hell for the shit they pull.

Then don't buy from them? 

If only grocery stores would raise the price of toilet paper right now. 

[Jkwellborn 6653]

6 pmags for 556. 30 rounders. 3 with ammo

$75

Leander. Get at me.


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1070 rounds 556 as well I could be talked into selling


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If I was closer I might hit you up. Mess ain’t worth shipping for a gun I don’t own.

[Lat22 3994]

I love my Scorpion, 35 rounds of 147gr subsonic goodness. 
 

Right there with you brutha.