The Gun Owner’s thread

[fattyflattie 4640]

29 minutes ago, Armybrat said:

Just ordered one from Grabagun. $30 more than the pre-panic price, but I want one to plink with this summer. Ordered a two pack of extra 17 round SR9 mags, which will give me a total of 7 for this little rifle.
Does not include the four that go with the two new SR9 pistols.

Now to look for a sling and a budget red dot.

If any of you guys are Glock fans, these carbines have an adapter that lets them take the Glock high capacity 9mm magazines.
 

 

Brat, great pickup.   I was contemplating picking one up not long ago.  Was bouncing back and forth between the 9 and 40, and never did anything.  Pretty sure it was in the "panic pricing", although my want for it has nothing to do with that.  I had just recently discovered them.   Aside from the $$ of ammo, and reason to go 9 over 40?  

[PilotsError 2337]

Where's everyone shooting rifles now that Best Of is closed?  I mean for long range and being able to set up some drills.  I'm north of Austin.

[Armybrat 41400]

42 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Brat, great pickup.   I was contemplating picking one up not long ago.  Was bouncing back and forth between the 9 and 40, and never did anything.  Pretty sure it was in the "panic pricing", although my want for it has nothing to do with that.  I had just recently discovered them.   Aside from the $$ of ammo, and reason to go 9 over 40?  

The reason I chose the 9mm was because I already have close to 1,000 rounds of range & SD ammo, and have never had a .40 caliber pistol. Just didn’t want to start up a new to me caliber.
 

Heck, even though 9mm is scarce as a smart aggy, lots of 9mm shot shells are available. So I might order a bunch of that stuff just what fer.

[Armybrat 41400]

15 minutes ago, PilotsError said:

Where's everyone shooting rifles now that Best Of is closed?  I mean for long range and being able to set up some drills.  I'm north of Austin.

Dunno about public outdoor ranges, but my family shoots on our land.

 

[Handcruser 2815]

Where's everyone shooting rifles now that Best Of is closed?  I mean for long range and being able to set up some drills.  I'm north of Austin.

There is a great place outside of burnet.

Reveille peak ranch. 1000 yard range up the side of a mountain and tons of tactical bays. Newish place so it’s still figuring things out.

Tim Kennedy shoots there. It’s where I go as well but I’m no Tim Kennedy.


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[fattyflattie 4640]

I have a 9mm, and would eventually like to add a 40 to that (my handgun collection is...tremendously lacking) at some point.  I couldn't even tell you what the delta in ammunition price is during "normal" times.   The reason I was looking at them was I'm beginning to introduce my oldest to shooting, and she's done fantastic with the 10/.22, but it's set up VERY heavy as a target gun and figured this might fit her better, and still be low recoil enough to continue advancing.  And if not, it would be a cool plinker.  My typical purchases are typically not synthetic anything, so stepping out of my boundaries here a bit.

 

The reason I chose the 9mm was because I already have close to 1,000 rounds of range & SD ammo, and have never had a .40 caliber pistol. Just didn’t want to start up a new to me caliber.
 

Heck, even though 9mm is scarce as a smart aggy, lots of 9mm shot shells are available. So I might order a bunch of that stuff just what fer.

 

Edited July 8, 2020 by fattyflattie
Meant to quote AB above.

[Handcruser 2815]

40 sucks


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[NotActuallyALonghorn 4999]

9 is a better pistol round with modern ammo. It's always a good idea to have you carbine match your pistol ammo. If they can take the same magazines, even better.

[Armybrat 41400]

Of course these plinkers won’t be much good for ranges beyond 100 yards, what with the drastic bullet drop. I’ll probably stick with The 124 grain stuff.

[Reagan1k 3042]

Its telling that the availability of .40 is so much higher now than 9mm which is almost nonexistent. 

Shows just how many people dumped their .40's in the last few years. 

I still own and keep both, but I was looking last night at SG and Natchez among others and you can still get .40 but 9 is MIA all together.

[fattyflattie 4640]

Good to know. I’ll do some reading but always thought 40 was pretty well regarded.  And I’m all about matching calibers, but ideally I’d have both 9 and 40...

[Fondren & Main 6898]

Fuck y’all talkin’ bout.  I love my .40.

[Reagan1k 3042]

I love 40s as much as I love 9’s but I’m a whore so it’s a low bar for me. 

[Armybrat 41400]

When my nephew was on a Hill Country police force, over the years he accumulated about 6,000 rounds of .40 from his fellow officers. They all were issued a certain amount to practice with before their annual qualification, but few of them actually shot very little of it.

Enterprising nephew did a lot of bbq smoking, so he would trade brisket sammiches & sausage wraps for their excess ammo that they didn’t care about keeping.

[crimsonlonghorn 2313]

Oh my lord. 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/872406852

I will say the wood is beautiful and I'd be at least a little bit tempted for half the price. 

Really want a P-Gun 4 barrel set, but this is beyond my price range. 

[Armybrat 41400]

Wonder if they’ll take an 1864 Henry rifle in trade.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4999]

.40 is just too snappy in anything but a full size pistol. And even then a 9mm shoots so much smoother. The advantages it has don't outweigh the excessive recoil versus modern ammo in a 9mm. 

[Fondren & Main 6898]

35 minutes ago, NotActuallyALonghorn said:

.40 is just too snappy in anything but a full size pistol. And even then a 9mm shoots so much smoother. The advantages it has don't outweigh the excessive recoil versus modern ammo in a 9mm. 

[fattyflattie 4640]

2 hours ago, crimsonlonghorn said:

Oh my lord. 

https://www.gunbroker.com/item/872406852

I will say the wood is beautiful and I'd be at least a little bit tempted for half the price. 

Really want a P-Gun 4 barrel set, but this is beyond my price range. 

I’ve been trying to justify a P for awhile, but just can’t bring myself to it. I figure if I can pick up a trigger group here, grab the barrels there, it would take away the sting. But still can’t bring myself to it.  There’s been a 20/28 combo on there I really like but I just can’t do it.   But you should do it, for sure. 

[crimsonlonghorn 2313]

6 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

I’ve been trying to justify a P for awhile, but just can’t bring myself to it. I figure if I can pick up a trigger group here, grab the barrels there, it would take away the sting. But still can’t bring myself to it.  There’s been a 20/28 combo on there I really like but I just can’t do it.   But you should do it, for sure. 

Problem is, they are so custom that it's hard to figure out exactly what a "fair value" is.

I think $40k is a little high, but it's probably close for a 4 barrel set with upgraded wood and engraving given the $5k cost of extra barrels on the base model. (near as I can tell, there is not an "M8" model, just MX-8) 

Edited July 9, 2020 by crimsonlonghorn

[Reagan1k 3042]

Anyone want Bonnie and Clyde's shotgun for a conversation piece?

Wincester 1897 - Bonnie and Clyde

 

 

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Last purchased at auction in Kansas City in 2012; attributed to belonging to Bonnie & Clyde and seized in 1933 after a deadly shootout in Joplin, Missouri. The gun was seized after a police shootout with Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in Joplin, Missouri on April 13, 1933. Police raided an apartment where the couple was hiding out. Bonnie & Clyde escaped, but two officers died in the shootout. A police officer later gave the shotgun to Mark Lairmore, who was a Tulsa, OK police officer, and it remained in the Lairmore family. The gun had been displayed in a police museum in Springfield, Missouri from 1973 until late 2011, and it was auctioned during January of 2012. This is a unique opportunity to own a piece of history. Serial number E 650715. HIGH BID ACCEPTANCE SUBJECT TO APPROVAL OF THE ESTATE.

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by Reagan1k

[fattyflattie 4640]

2 hours ago, crimsonlonghorn said:

Problem is, they are so custom that it's hard to figure out exactly what a "fair value" is.

I think $40k is a little high, but it's probably close for a 4 barrel set with upgraded wood and engraving given the $5k cost of extra barrels on the base model. (near as I can tell, there is not an "M8" model, just MX-8) 

New barrels are ~5k when they pop up, slightly changing depending on weight and makeup.   You can find nice fore grips for ~1k when they show up.  You can actually find nice wood for 1.5k and museum grade stuff for 3-5k sometimes.    But yeah, pretty hard (at least for me) to ever wrap my head around 40k for a gun, generational or not.  
 

One thing that has always stopped me is that for that money (12-15k) the wood needs to be fitted.  And the likelyhood I’m finding my exact fit, with the right look, for the right price, just doesn’t seem likely.   That’s what drove my thoughts about trying to piece one together. Get it all together and then get the wood done proper.   The other thing is these guns are typically very well used.  Many you can tell they’ve been putting thru several flats a week for years.  You don’t seem to find too many without blemishes.  So I’ll probably get one about the time I retire.  There’s one guy on gunbroker out of Cali that constantly has stuff for them, I keep an eye on his auctions.   

[crimsonlonghorn 2313]

21 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

One thing that has always stopped me is that for that money (12-15k) the wood needs to be fitted.  And the likelyhood I’m finding my exact fit, with the right look, for the right price, just doesn’t seem likely.   That’s what drove my thoughts about trying to piece one together. Get it all together and then get the wood done proper.   

 

Yes, I'm a big dude, so fitting would be a definite requirement. My current (tubed) 682 has a ton of cast off and an extra inch and a half on the stock and an adjustable comb, which would have to be done (is done) for any new gun I buy. Larry Feland could do it for me, but then I'm taking this beautiful wood and fucking it up as soon as I buy the gun. I'm cool doing that to my $2k Beretta and a couple of 1100's that I use to hunt. Much less cool cutting up the stock on something this nice and expensive. 

Seems as if I' going to spend $40k on a gun, I could spend that money on myself and order one from Italy that's made to fit from the start. And I could get slightly less nice engraving and instead fly to Italy and get it fitted and pick it up at the factory. 

Edited July 9, 2020 by crimsonlonghorn

[Reagan1k 3042]

2 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

The other thing is these guns are typically very well used.  Many you can tell they’ve been putting thru several flats a week for years.  You don’t seem to find too many without blemishes.

Here's one that is "gently used" coming up at public auction in 3 months.  Perazzi

Rock Island runs nice auctions and their stuff always comes in better than their grading indicates - very conservative evaluations IMO.

That auction coming up in October is one I'd like to attend live.  3 days and thousands of lots for sale.

[crimsonlonghorn 2313]

Pic of my heavily modified/fitted 682 just to share. 

 

[fattyflattie 4640]

41 minutes ago, crimsonlonghorn said:

Pic of my heavily modified/fitted 682 just to share. 

 

That’s probably what I’ll end up doing. One of those Etchen 20/28 combos with fantastic wood and will continue to lust after my P.  Or split the middle and grab a CG. 

[Carl Spackler 3615]

On 6/28/2020 at 5:03 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

After having camped and hiked with my 9mm at my side this weekend as bear protection, I’ve come to the conclusion that I need to buy a Glock 40 10mm. 
ive also seen where people put harder barrels in them and fire hot loads. Not sure how necessary that might be. Also not sure that the double stacked mag is necessary. Bear won’t be giving me a chance to shoot 15(16). 

You are better off carrying a good bear spray according to this bear biologist. https://www.backpacker.com/survival/the-truth-about-bears-the-skills?li_source=LI&li_medium=m2m-rcw-backpacker 

[crimsonlonghorn 2313]

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

That’s probably what I’ll end up doing. One of those Etchen 20/28 combos with fantastic wood and will continue to lust after my P.  Or split the middle and grab a CG. 

I actually bought my son a 686 Onyx 20/28 combo earlier this year. It's a great little gun with beautiful wood for only a little more than the silver pigeon. 

[Pato del Muerto 53483]

2 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

You are better off carrying a good bear spray according to this bear biologist. https://www.backpacker.com/survival/the-truth-about-bears-the-skills?li_source=LI&li_medium=m2m-rcw-backpacker 

I always have bear spray.  It’s not fucking either/or, CARL!

Edited July 9, 2020 by Pato del Muerto

[Reagan1k 3042]

Dug this out today.  My old 92S that was beat all to hell over the years.

I'm normally not a refinish guy but this one got sent off for a cerakote shower and clean grips.

Doesn't show up but the barrel is black.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 9, 2020 by Reagan1k

[T’Boo Ted Marshall 2779]

I need to do that with my 92FS. It has some wear on the side. I’m just picky about finish options.

[Reagan1k 3042]

Better shot of the contrast.

 

[Somnio 751]

On 6/23/2020 at 2:21 PM, Somnio said:

I ordered a Kel-tec RDB yesterday, along with a Holosun green dot sight and 3x magnifier.

It hasn't shipped yet, but after I pick it up I'll post some pics.

Just got back from the range shooting my RDB for the first time.  I like it.  I like it alot.  I also shot my Springfield TRP, so it's included for your viewing pleasure.

[Carl Spackler 3615]

5 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

I always have bear spray.  It’s not fucking either/or, CARL!

I am duly chastized!

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4999]

8 hours ago, Carl Spackler said:

You are better off carrying a good bear spray according to this bear biologist. https://www.backpacker.com/survival/the-truth-about-bears-the-skills?li_source=LI&li_medium=m2m-rcw-backpacker 

As a non-practicing wildlife biologist, you shouldn't trust anybody who tries to compare guns versus pepper spray. They serve two different purposes and are best used in two different sets of circumstances.

[Armybrat 41400]

And some bears can digest both.

[Carl Spackler 3615]

Yeah, what's the old adage?  Something along the lines of . . . If you're going to use a handgun against a grizzly, make sure you file the front sight down first.  That way it won't hurt as much when the bear shoves the gun up your ass.

That said, I can't fault Pato for carrying both if it makes him feel safer.  

[FartingMonk 3617]

Anyone familiar with Smith and Wessons warranty policy?  My MP 2.0 that I shot for the first time today crapped out on me.  Initially it was having feeding issues so I had to jam the slide forward.  Issue was fixed on that one but would have same issues after the 4th clip.  Then I shot it again and it looked like a bad detonation.  Cleared the gun.  Tried to shoot it again but now it won't shoot at all

[crimsonlonghorn 2313]

4 minutes ago, FartingMonk said:

Anyone familiar with Smith and Wessons warranty policy?  My MP 2.0 that I shot for the first time today crapped out on me.  Initially it was having feeding issues so I had to jam the slide forward.  Issue was fixed on that one but would have same issues after the 4th clip.  Then I shot it again and it looked like a bad detonation.  Cleared the gun.  Tried to shoot it again but now it won't shoot at all

I think your problem is the clip. 

[FartingMonk 3617]

On a much happier note I did get that spitfire scope mounted.  Really fun scope.  

[Fondren & Main 6898]

11 hours ago, FartingMonk said:

Anyone familiar with Smith and Wessons warranty policy?  My MP 2.0 that I shot for the first time today crapped out on me.  Initially it was having feeding issues so I had to jam the slide forward.  Issue was fixed on that one but would have same issues after the 4th clip.  Then I shot it again and it looked like a bad detonation.  Cleared the gun.  Tried to shoot it again but now it won't shoot at all

Yikes.  Sounds like you need to get an RMA.  I’ve never had one issue with mine.  In fact, it’s my car gun due to the fact that I’ve fired 1,000 rounds through it with 0 malfunctions.  That’s even after using aftermarket 25 round magazines.

[FartingMonk 3617]

1 hour ago, Fondren & Main said:

Yikes.  Sounds like you need to get an RMA.  I’ve never had one issue with mine.  In fact, it’s my car gun due to the fact that I’ve fired 1,000 rounds through it with 0 malfunctions.  That’s even after using aftermarket 25 round magazines.

Yeah.  I have the 2.0 compact as my car gun and I liked it so much I bought the full size because i wanted a bigger gun.  Hopefully Smith and Wesson fixes the issue.

[noharleyyet 2864]

Pig or Velociraptor rig

 

[dirtonia 271]

Pig or Velociraptor rig
 

Awesome!!!! I need one.

[Armybrat 41400]

The backup for my nightstand pistol is this old Winchester 1200 Defender 12 ga. Eight shot pump. I have a pistol grip for it, but when installed, the recoil from a standard 00 2&3/4 was just too much. So back on went the original wood buttstock.

Now I see they make “tactical” stocks with a pistol grip. This one is $95 in stock at Brownell’s. Am very interested, so what say you, Surly?

 

[Jkwellborn 7036]

Where’s the safety for it? I thought about going to an m4 style stock on my mossberg 590 but the safety is on top so it doesn’t make sense.

[Armybrat 41400]

Safety is on the trigger guard. This one is made specifically for the Win. 1200 & 1300.

They make them for the Mossbergs & Remingtons too.

[FartingMonk 3617]

Finally got that scope dialed in.  The Spitfire has amazing optics on it.

[workswithseed 2204]

I had a great day breaking in my rifle. Shoots like damn charm.

[BabaYaga 15624]

Not much to add relative to these awesome posts - but this little piece of plastic is a god-send.  Back from vacation and I'm just here at my desk between calls loading and unloading pistol mags and loving every minute of it!