Formula 1 2022

[Francisco 2.0 32608]

Another 10 years, they will be longer than an F150

 

 

 

 

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

Apparently I’m in the minority, but I like that change. Qualifying and racing are two different things, so recognizing the person that goes fastest in that format is the correct move, I think.

I of course abhor the sprint race in its current format anyway, so if we were to remove its affiliation with the race starting grid, that would make it better.

I’m with you, good buddy.

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Got a cool little something for you all. I acquired some old press photo slides of the 1976 USGP at Watkins Glen and went ahead and scanned them using my DSLR, and the results were fun.

These were shot on Ektachrome. The action shots are only so-so, but the rest are mostly great.

Tinkering with the Tyrrell P34 six-wheeler





Tyrrell P34 - Jody Scheckter



Ligier JS5 - Jacques Laffite



Hesketh 308D - Harald Ertl



Hans Stuck



Brabham BT45 - Carlos Pace



Jochen Mass



The Hesketh 308D in Rizla Penthouse livery

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Brabham Garage



Ronnie Peterson, the SuperSwede



The March 761 of Hans Stuck



McLaren M23 front suspension



Hans Stuck



Jody Scheckter



Otto Stuppacher, the lone non-qualifier, in an older Tyrrell 007




Patrick Depailler and Carlos Pace

[wood 11769]

Sprint race weekends - if we must have them - should only be allowed at circuit where they can run different configurations on Saturday vs Sunday, like Bahrain, for example.

Edited April 21, 2022 by wood

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Race day!

James Hunt



Who else?




Scheckter actually took the lead going into T1 and Led for a bit




But Hunt eventually got by



And won the race




Coca Cola and champs to the winner

[utee94 16091]

Hot damn I love that 6-wheeled Tyrrell P34.  It's goofy for sure but it's such a clear representation of an era when the regs allowed so much more diversity of innovation.

[G650 14450]

Dude epic pics

[PittsburghTiger 6351]

One of my father's good friends from the hospital, and his sons, used to be at that race pretty much the entire run through the 1970s. That was my first introduction to cars, and special cars to boot.

Ol' Doc loved cars, his kids loved cars as well. Chip Ganassi was one of their good friends growing up so I would see Young Chip at the house at various functions. I will always remember how they'd throw parties for the Indy 500 as the kickoff to summer.

Those pictures are awesome.

[utee94 16091]

15 minutes ago, PittsburghTiger said:

One of my father's good friends from the hospital, and his sons, used to be at that race pretty much the entire run through the 1970s. That was my first introduction to cars, and special cars to boot.

Ol' Doc loved cars, his kids loved cars as well. Chip Ganassi was one of their good friends growing up so I would see Young Chip at the house at various functions. I will always remember how they'd throw parties for the Indy 500 as the kickoff to summer.

Those pictures are awesome.

 

Actual photo of Ol' Doc:

 

 

[wood 11769]

17 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Another 10 years, they will be longer than an F150

Yeah they're only about a foot shorter than an F150 now, which is completely ridiculous. Even compared to 2013, the current cars are massive.

[Buzzrock 15140]

Hot damn I love that 6-wheeled Tyrrell P34.  It's goofy for sure but it's such a clear representation of an era when the regs allowed so much more diversity of innovation.

I remember seeing that car in model car catalogs when I was a kid and being totally fascinated by it.

The front and rear offsets were so massive back then. Are the wheels and tires the same size all the way around now?

[utee94 16091]

58 minutes ago, wood said:

Yeah they're only about a foot shorter than an F150 now, which is completely ridiculous. Even compared to 2013, the current cars are massive.

I worked for AMD for several years in the mid 2000s, and the San Jose office had one of Schumi's WDC winning Ferraris on display in the lobby.  Standing next to it, and standing next to one of the modern cars, it's just amazing the difference in size.

 

 

[VABuckeye 2481]

1 hour ago, wood said:

Yeah they're only about a foot shorter than an F150 now, which is completely ridiculous. Even compared to 2013, the current cars are massive.

It amazes me how light they are for how big they are.

[Dutch 4577]

Looks a good deal for him and Ferrari. He's driving well, seemingly gets on well with LeClerc, and on his side Ferrari (at least so far in 2022) have developed a car that can get regular podiums and wins.

Edited April 21, 2022 by Dutch

[Burt Macklin 19230]

Duchessa reporting Sainz PU1 is having some reliability concerns, so Ferrari is giving him the new PU that supposedly has an extra 15 HP this weekend.  Sainz really needs to win this weekend to stem the momentum of Leclerc becoming the obvious number one and title favorite.

 

 

[wood 11769]

1 hour ago, VABuckeye said:

It amazes me how light they are for how big they are.

Yep, but they're sooo much heavier than before, and you can see it on the track, esp in slow corners or when the rear end snaps in a way that nobody can catch it.

When I started paying closer attention to F1, around the turn of the century, the minimum weight was 600 kg. In 2010 it went up to 620, and people thought that was wayyy too heavy. From 2010 to 2022, the weight has increased every year except one, from 620 to 798 kg. Since 2002 the minimum weight has increased 33%, from 600 kg to 798.

[Chewbacca 7830]

52 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

Duchessa reporting Sainz PU1 is having some reliability concerns, so Ferrari is giving him the new PU that supposedly has an extra 15 HP this weekend.  Sainz really needs to win this weekend to stem the momentum of Leclerc becoming the obvious number one and title favorite.

 

 

Yeah, if we can't have a proper fight between 2 teams, I'd at least like to see Sainz and Leclerc keep it close to it goes down to the wire.

[G650 14450]

5 hours ago, utee94 said:

I worked for AMD for several years in the mid 2000s, and the San Jose office had one of Schumi's WDC winning Ferraris on display in the lobby.  Standing next to it, and standing next to one of the modern cars, it's just amazing the difference in size.

 

 

It cracks me up because I used to think those 2000 era cars were so big.

[utee94 16091]

2 hours ago, G650 said:

It cracks me up because I used to think those 2000 era cars were so big.

Yeah exactly!  While I was standing next to it, I was thinking back to the first cars I really remember from following the sport as a kid, which was late 70s/early 80s, and they  were so much smaller still.

[PittsburghTiger 6351]

Cruddy weather for P1

[elfenix 34768]

Drizzly and a bit cool here on the hill

[PittsburghTiger 6351]

16 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Drizzly and a bit cool here on the hill

AWESOME! So AWESOME!

[elfenix 34768]

Currently not drizzling at this end of the track. F2 practice might dry it enough that I bet we'll see slicks in qualy.

[Burt Macklin 19230]

48 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Drizzly and a bit cool here on the hill

Got dam. That is amazing. Imola is up there on the list of tracks I want to see.  

This got me thinking, I don't have a list made up in my head, but if I had to rank top 3 tracks on my bucket list, I think I'd put Spa, Monza, and Interlagos as my top 3. I've only been to COTA so far, but I'm trying to make Canada happen in the next two years. Mexico City would be great too.  Now with so many doubleheaders, I'm hoping to make a 2 week vacation in Europe happen where I can see two races. 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

1 minute ago, elfenix said:

Currently not drizzling at this end of the track. F2 practice might dry it enough that I bet we'll see slicks in qualy.

As a Ferrari fan, I would politely request that you start doing some rain dances between now and Quali. 

[elfenix 34768]

As a Ferrari fan, I would politely request that you start doing some rain dances between now and Quali. 

This weekend we are all essere Ferrari

[utee94 16091]

1 hour ago, Burt Macklin said:

Got dam. That is amazing. Imola is up there on the list of tracks I want to see.  

This got me thinking, I don't have a list made up in my head, but if I had to rank top 3 tracks on my bucket list, I think I'd put Spa, Monza, and Interlagos as my top 3. I've only been to COTA so far, but I'm trying to make Canada happen in the next two years. Mexico City would be great too.  Now with so many doubleheaders, I'm hoping to make a 2 week vacation in Europe happen where I can see two races. 

I definitely have a Top 3.  Monaco, Spa, and Suzuka.

There are several others I'd love to visit, but those are my bucket list ones.

 

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Silverstone, Monaco, Spa, Suzuka. Those are my 4. I can’t kick one out.

[elfenix 34768]

When was the last time you saw a brake explode in F1? Think a few blew up at last year's Indy 500 F1 I dunno

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

My top 3

1. Jeddah 

2. Qatar 

3. Jeddah again 

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

When was the last two you saw a brake explode in F1? Think a few blew up at last year's Indy 500 F1 I dunno

Was just the tire I believe.

[dieucla98 2963]

The changes Merc made looks like it made the porpoising worse. Like a lot worse. Russell and Hamilton are going to need a bottle of Advil each.

[elfenix 34768]

My top 3
1. Jeddah 
2. Qatar 
3. Jeddah again 

Allahu snackbar

[elfenix 34768]

Nooooooo

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

Carlito, no.

[elfenix 34768]

Very light sprinkle now. Italy weeps for Sainz. At least with the sprint he can make up some places but I was hoping for a Ferrari 1-2 just to see how crazy this place would be.


Sainz on a scooter

[Burt Macklin 19230]

Man, this season is really slipping away from Sainz. I guess lucky for him is that he'll start 10th in the sprint and have 20 some odd extra laps to improve his spot for the race, but unless Leclerc really screws up, it'll be another weekend where he loses big points to Leclerc.  So that's 2 races where he's significantly off the pace and two weekends with a big crash.  Sainz is speeding up the driver orders by pressing too much. 

[elfenix 34768]

"Richardo"

[Anton Chigurh 3335]

Found elfenix

[TonyTexas 10785]

I guess no one is even going to attempt another lap in Q2

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

Top 3, for real this time: 

1. Spa 

2. Monza 

3. Singapore 

[elfenix 34768]

Worst. Qualifying. Ever.

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

Lando secures P3. 

[faps 818]

1. Suzuka

2. Monaco

3. Zandvoort or Austria

I hear the facilities (bathrooms, food and beer stands) at Spa are just terribad, but the track is obviously epic.

[Huckleberry 34738]

What's the qualifying count between Russell and Hamilton now? That evens it up at 2, right? 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

That was an absolute mess of a qualifying. The Mercs were lucky to get out of Q1. If Ocon could've run, Lewis would've been out. 

So apparently Charles planned to do push-slow-push after the red flag, but didn't get to do the second push lap because Lando crashed while Max got his second push lap in and that's what got him pole. Max has been insanely lucky with red flags and crashes going back to Abu Dabhi last year. 

The sprint and the race will be interesting. We haven't seen anyone do dry runs, so we have no idea what anyone's actual pace is. 

[Burt Macklin 19230]

This was a crazy save in by Leclerc in FP1. Doesn't even look real. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ConferenceRoom 6214]

45 minutes ago, Burt Macklin said:

That was an absolute mess of a qualifying. The Mercs were lucky to get out of Q1. If Ocon could've run, Lewis would've been out. 

So apparently Charles planned to do push-slow-push after the red flag, but didn't get to do the second push lap because Lando crashed while Max got his second push lap in and that's what got him pole. Max has been insanely lucky with red flags and crashes going back to Abu Dabhi last year. 

The sprint and the race will be interesting. We haven't seen anyone do dry runs, so we have no idea what anyone's actual pace is. 

You mean Bottas parking it? Nobody had time for two laps at the end, when Lando crashed. 

[Chewbacca 7830]

1 hour ago, ConferenceRoom said:

Lando secures P3. 

Yeah, and fucked his teammate in the process.  He really didn't want Danny to finish that lap, I guess.