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American Underdog - Kurt Warner's Story

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Watched last night in theaters with the wife on a date night as every other movie looked even worse. Was pleasantly surprised at how well done this movie is. Much better than I expected, a few things I didn't know about his story in there, but the way they tell the story is at just the right pace. 

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24 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

Which is the evil one now, paper or plastic?  This seems to go back and forth every few years.   I’m receiving weird paper straws from restaurants now, but they are still using plastic bags instead of paper at the grocery store, so I’m thoroughly confused.

Anyway, this Kurt Warner movie would have been really on point in the year 2000, but in the year 2021?  Alternatively, I feel really old now that they’re making movies to show people the long-forgotten story of Kurt Warner.

My wife didn't know who he was at all and she though the movie was incredible. She didn't think it was a true story she thought it was just a movie. It is pretty good. 

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Just saw it today. It’s a good movie. I was in law school in St Louis in 1999 so saw the story first hand, but still learned some stuff I didn’t know before. 
There’s  not much football in it. There’s not much Jesus in it either compared to what I though there would be. 
it’s more a love story with a kid mixed in than anything else. 
Worth watching imo. Glad I saw that while the kids saw Sing 2. 

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4 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Which is the evil one now, paper or plastic?  This seems to go back and forth every few years.   I’m receiving weird paper straws from restaurants now, but they are still using plastic bags instead of paper at the grocery store, so I’m thoroughly confused.

So frustrating. I use HEB curbside now because everything gets packed into paper bags, whereas I have to buy plastic bags if I go into the store.

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So frustrating. I use HEB curbside now because everything gets packed into paper bags, whereas I have to buy plastic bags if I go into the store.

What sucks is the H‑E‑B paper bag handles have a weight limit of around 14 ounces. You’d think they’d source them from the same place as the Central Market version that can hold about 50 pounds but apparently they don’t.
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Chuck/Shazam seemed miscast and I hope they limited the football based on what I saw of him throwing the ball in the trailer.  
 

I’ve met Zac Levi.  Super nice guy. And very tall (probably taller than Kurt). But would never confuse him for a football player.  Also hard for me to buy him playing it completely straight-laced/serious based on his better past roles.   But maybe he pulled it off.  

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8 hours ago, CooterBrown said:


Too attractive.

They nailed the lesbian haircut, so it worked.

 

1 hour ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Chuck/Shazam seemed miscast and I hope they limited the football based on what I saw of him throwing the ball in the trailer.  
 

I’ve met Zac Levi.  Super nice guy. And very tall (probably taller than Kurt). But would never confuse him for a football player.  Also hard for me to buy him playing it completely straight-laced/serious based on his better past roles.   But maybe he pulled it off.  

I thought Levi was terrific. 

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11 hours ago, oSuJeff97 said:

Interesting.

The trailer makes it look like horri-bad Hallmark Movie of the Week shit with some Jeebus sprinkles. 

Yeah, the trailer looks fucking terrible so if this movie doesn't suck, someone in marketing at that studio needs to be fired

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On 12/31/2021 at 4:55 PM, Murfdogg21 said:

Do they make Trent Green the villain even though he was the one that got screwed when he blew out his knee (no MVP, no Super Bowl, no HOF)?

They mention him almost not at all (again- there really wasn’t much football in it). He was in two scenes briefly and one scene where Warner was talking to his wife and was like- I’m pretty sure Martz hates me and they built this team for Trent Green which makes sense because Trent Green is awesome. 

On 12/31/2021 at 5:17 PM, Borachio said:

I thoroughly enjoyed it.  Who doesn't love a good underdog story? Got a good chuckle at Kirk Herbstreit, Todd Christensen and Mike Golic calling the Arena Bowl 10 game. 

That was great too. I really liked that. 
overall I really liked the movie but thought one area that they screwed up in was not having more actual clips from the games and actual talk from announcers about him. I don’t know if it was an artistic choice or had something to do do with rights from the NFL or broadcast networks being too expensive, but I would have liked to see a lot more actual clips of him playing or announcers talking about him. I imagine northern Iowa was on TV some and I also imagine they monologued about Warner before the first game they showed. 
Also- it was an interesting choice that they made the climax of the story his first game, as opposed to winning the super bowl his first year. I get the artistic choice but they could have shown another 15 or 20 minutes of football type stuff if they’d have made the super bowl the climactic end of the movie. It really is a chick/family flick disguised as a football movie. 

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They made a movie about Kurt Warner and didn’t show him winning the Super Bowl?

Uh they absolutely showed him winning the super bowl. I don’t get this line of discussion.

Great movie. Very Hollywood but so what.

Used to coach at my daughter’s hs. Met him once at Peter Piper Pizza back in the day. Good guy, cool story.
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1 hour ago, tbone_ said:


Uh they absolutely showed him winning the super bowl. I don’t get this line of discussion.

Great movie. Very Hollywood but so what.

Used to coach at my daughter’s hs. Met him once at Peter Piper Pizza back in the day. Good guy, cool story.

I don’t know how it could be any more clear that the super bowl stuff was post script and what that means. Everything built toward him starting the first game in the movie and they spent 20 or 30 minutes on that game, and his wife giving him the speech before hand and all the emotions etc, then they skipped the season, did 3 or 4 minutes on the super bowl, showed him thank g Jesus for winning the game and cut to the words on the screen that described the rest of his career. 
the entire emotional arc of the movie was him making it to the league and starting the first game. 
son of a fucking bitch are you people a bunch of Autists that you didn’t get where the emotional arc of the movie was and the difference between climax and falling action and then resolution?

here- let me Google it for y’all:

https://penandthepad.com/5-parts-plot-story-8394628.html
 

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From the review:

The filmmakers smartly tell their stories in tandem -- a plot that culminates with Kurt listening as Brenda reads an inspirational letter from Zach to his new daddy. Kurt hears it immediately before his first NFL start. ("He's proven everyone wrong, and so will you," Brenda tells Kurt.)
 

as in- culmination of the plot is what the story is about. Or- the climax- which was what I said- the first game is the climax and the Super Bowl is not at all the point of the movie. Which isn’t what you would probably expect. Especially when the movie starts by talking about Joe Montana being the super bowl MVP. Hell- they pump faked anyone who knew how that super bowl ended (Tenn coming up short by 1 yard in the last play of the game) by ending the arena bowl with Warners team coming up 1 yard short of the end zone on the last play of the game and then didn’t even show that ending in the super bowl, which shocked me after they set that up as a contrast. 

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Saw it yesterday with wife and kids.

It's like if in Rocky 1 they stopped after the first round and did a narrative that explained Rocky ended up lasting the entire 15, something no one had ever accomplished with Apollo Creed.

Or in Miracle they had spent 20 of the last 25 minutes on the Sweden game and the inspiring tying goal with 30 seconds left. and show stills of subsequent games and narrated that the Americans did end up beating the Soviets and won the Gold Medal.

Just kidding, upon initial watch was just a tad disappointed they didn't spend more time on the NFL and especially that first Super Bowl.  But upon reflection I get why they played it the way they did, focusing on his first NFL start.  It worked.

Everyone in the family enjoyed it.  If you're turned off by religion, it's not at all in your face.  It's a well-presented typical Hollywood underdog story, and the fact that it's actually true makes it amazing.

 

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I have this idea for a new porn movie, y'all tell me what you think. The opening scene is a beautiful woman talking on the phone. There's a close-up of her lips next to the receiver and she says "and I want extra sausage on that pizza." Then the next hour is the cook carefully preparing a large sausage pizza. The second hour is the delivery man driving around town trying to find the house. He finally arrives at the house and rings the doorbell. The door opens and then the screen goes to black with just the words, "Then they had sex".

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10 hours ago, Wade said:

Saw it yesterday with wife and kids.

It's like if in Rocky 1 they stopped after the first round and did a narrative that explained Rocky ended up lasting the entire 15, something no one had ever accomplished with Apollo Creed.

Or in Miracle they had spent 20 of the last 25 minutes on the Sweden game and the inspiring tying goal with 30 seconds left. and show stills of subsequent games and narrated that the Americans did end up beating the Soviets and won the Gold Medal.

Just kidding, upon initial watch was just a tad disappointed they didn't spend more time on the NFL and especially that first Super Bowl.  But upon reflection I get why they played it the way they did, focusing on his first NFL start.  It worked.

Everyone in the family enjoyed it.  If you're turned off by religion, it's not at all in your face.  It's a well-presented typical Hollywood underdog story, and the fact that it's actually true makes it amazing.

 

Ok. So you and I definitely watched the same movie. Not sure what a couple other people on here watched but nice to know I’m not going crazy. And there was very very very little in your face Jesus talk. Was shocked at how little of it there was when he brought it up at every time in public. Like- we saw her pray a couple times, we heard a clip of him (real life) after the super bowl thank Jesus, and they had a short conversation where she told him her faith defined her. I think that was it?  
i agree with you that the artistic choice worked, especially if the desire was to not make a football movie about a football player, which they did. I’d have liked a little more football, especially since that was such a fascinating team coming from nowhere and really revolutionizing the game with the no coast offense/greatest show on turf, but I suppose I could just watch nfl films for that. 

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