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You'll have to pay higher gas prices and eventually give it up altogether to save the world.

You're asking too much.

You'll have to give up eating hamburgers to save the world.

Fuck you, you're asking too much. I choose to believe the world will be fine.

 

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Now apply that way of thinking to other topics: You want me to stop treating minorities like shit when people in other countries can treat their minorities like shit? You want me to pay

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what a thread.   the thread i jumped on back in like 2008 or something started with a claim that the Arctic would be ice free by the summer of 2012.  this didn't happen. in fact, while 2012

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2 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

You'll have to pay higher gas prices and eventually give it up altogether to save the world.

You're asking too much.

You'll have to give up eating hamburgers to save the world.

Fuck you, you're asking too much. I choose to believe the world will be fine.

 

passing on red meat and passing on meat all together several times a week, times eleventy billion people would do a lot for climate change actually.  add EVs, more renewable energy, nuclear energy and winding down fossil fuels quite a bit would do wonders.
 

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the but the farmers line is such stupid shit. sugar is bad for you, when do we say but the farmers so eat more sugar?  we don't.  you raise cattle? great, it's bad for the Earth, people should eat less beef and cattle ranchers should pivot their land to something else.  raise chickens, raise pork, raise something that people want that doesn't result in flatulence that destroys the planet. cow gas is like sugar for the planet it causes chronic planetary inflammation. gotta lay off the beef.  old lady asks "where's the beef" you tell her fuck you you insensitive bitch, we took it away from you for your own good. i'm serious.

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1 hour ago, troph said:

the but the farmers line is such stupid shit. sugar is bad for you, when do we say but the farmers so eat more sugar?  we don't.  you raise cattle? great, it's bad for the Earth, people should eat less beef and cattle ranchers should pivot their land to something else.  raise chickens, raise pork, raise something that people want that doesn't result in flatulence that destroys the planet. cow gas is like sugar for the planet it causes chronic planetary inflammation. gotta lay off the beef.  old lady asks "where's the beef" you tell her fuck you you insensitive bitch, we took it away from you for your own good. i'm serious.

Not to mention the amount of water it uses.  There were never meant to be this many cows on the planet, much like people.  I actually have a lot of confidence in lab grown meat in the future.  Science for the win on that one.  Sorry cattle ranchers.  The times they are a changin.  This isn't the fucking 1800s anymore.

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Not to mention the amount of water it uses.  There were never meant to be this many cows on the planet, much like people.  I actually have a lot of confidence in lab grown meat in the future.   Science for the win on that one.  Sorry cattle ranchers.  The times they are a changin.  This isn't the fucking 1800s anymore.

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1 hour ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

The climate activist fixation on going after food providers is a bit strange. Not surprised Canada is leading the way. 

Well, had you bothered to read the link, there's like a 10 page report on why and it seems to be backed up by data and facts.  But whatever.

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Just pat her on the head and condescend. What's next on the agenda?
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We're setting up future (near term) generations for disaster. Not just lean times or struggle, but unmitigated disaster.
The below will be viewed with absolute shock and loathing before the end of the century. We drove around in our overpowered cars (I have one, but I'm not required to drive much) and our unnecessary giant pick-ups and SUVs enjoying the last great decades of plenty without giving a ratfuck.
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History will be unkind. 

Our problem here is that we are loading yet more responsibility on individuals, and not industry.





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Increased demand for water will be the No. 1 threat to food security in the next 20 years, followed closely by heat waves, droughts, income inequality and political instability, according to a new CU Boulder-led study which calls for increased collaboration to build a more resilient global food supply.

The report, published today in One Earth, comes as global hunger levels in 2021 surpassed the previous record set in 2020, and acute food insecurity in many countries could continue to worsen this year, according to the United Nations and The World Bank.

These pressing threats are not new: The impacts of political conflict and compounding environmental effects of climate change are already measured and studied around the world. The new study, however, finds that increased collaboration between these areas of research could not only fortify global food security in the face of any one of these threats, but also strengthen it against all of them. 

“We provide strong support for the idea of building more resilient food systems in general, rather than trying to deal with individual problems here and there,” said Zia Mehrabi, lead author on the study, and assistant professor of environmental studies and in the Mortenson Center in Global Engineering. “It doesn't matter whether it’s a climate, environmental or political shock to the system—if you have resilient systems in place, they'll be able to deal with all the different kinds of shocks.”

According to a recent analysis by The World Bank, the war in Ukraine, supply chain disruptions, and continued economic fallout of the COVID-19 pandemic are reversing years of development gains and pushing food prices to all-time highs—working against the United Nations’ goal to end hunger, food insecurity and malnutrition in all its forms by 2030. 

In addition, extreme events like heat waves, floods and droughts are on the rise. 

While researchers and policymakers are developing solutions to improve the resilience of food systems, they often work in isolation—tackling one problem at a time. The new study found a great need for increased collaboration and coordination between researchers who study specific threats to food systems, so that decision-makers have comprehensive information, updated models and relevant tools as threats arise. 

Conflict, climate and capacity 
Prior to the COVID-19 pandemic, in 2019, the researchers surveyed 69 global experts in various fields related to food security. They ranked 32 top food security threats by both their impact and probability over the next two decades. 

They found that many environmental events due to climate change—such as unpredictable weather changes—could have the greatest negative impacts on food security. Considering both their impact and probability, increased water demand, drought, heat waves, and the collapse of ecosystem services (natural benefits we rely on every day from the environmental systems around us) ranked the highest.

Yet they also found that threats to food security presented by income inequality, global price shocks, and political instability and migration have high probabilities of occurring in the next two decades, landing these threats in the top 10.

Over half of the world’s food insecure populations live in conflict-prone regions: failed states or regions with political instability, terrorism, civil unrest or armed conflict. The migration and displacement caused by these conflicts ranked in the top five most probable threats to global food security in the next 20 years.

“Food security is not a problem of production, it’s a problem of distribution, access and poverty, and that is exacerbated by conflict,” said Mehrabi. “Conflict not only makes people more vulnerable but also limits their ability to adapt.” 

Conflict itself is not new, either. Prior to the conflict in Ukraine and the ongoing Ethiopian civil war, civil wars such as those in Syria, Yemen and elsewhere have continued to threaten regional and global food security. 

“If we’d already been focused on addressing conflict and extreme events when COVID happened, we would have been in a much better situation,” said Mehrabi. 

Research for resilience 
The researchers also asked the surveyed experts what the biggest outstanding research priorities in these areas are, and what top 50 questions scientists and policymakers should be focusing on. 

Many prioritized food system diversification—as more diverse entities are typically more stable. For example, Ukraine provided 10% of global wheat exports in 2021 and 40% of the World Food Program's wheat supplies—a supply severely impacted by Russia’s attacks on the country in 2022.

While we cannot change where agricultural land is distributed, Mehrabi noted, researchers and policymakers might ask: How can countries diversify their food production, both in terms of location and nutritional output? 

Researchers also can create better maps and predictions, which can inform proactive steps to preserve food security before, during, and after extreme events. Mehrabi points out that the collection of data underlying our maps has not kept pace with the advanced tools available to researchers today for prediction, and many models are not validated with matching on-the-ground measurements. 

“We can see it happening in our world right now, conflict and climate getting worse. The trends show, and experts agree, on this getting worse in the future,” said Mehrabi. “How are we going to build and govern food systems that are resilient to all different kinds of shocks and extreme events? We need to start thinking about how we can build systems that can adapt and cope with all of them.” 

 

Amid climate change and conflict, more resilient food systems a must, report shows | CU Boulder Today | University of Colorado Boulder

 

The idea of 'more resilient food systems' is interesting to me, and I'm curious as to what that looks like. 

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9 hours ago, MC Fresh Breath said:

Amid climate change and conflict, more resilient food systems a must, report shows | CU Boulder Today | University of Colorado Boulder

 

The idea of 'more resilient food systems' is interesting to me, and I'm curious as to what that looks like. 

 

getting rid of golden corral buffet

 

 

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Given enough time, scientists will eventually perfect a broad spectrum of artificial foods that are both appealing and safe, if not downright life extending. It may take 100s of years and perhaps equally long for all cultures to embrace them fully, but it’s inevitable.

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31 minutes ago, Lurch said:

Given enough time, scientists will eventually perfect a broad spectrum of artificial foods that are both appealing and safe, if not downright life extending. It may take 100s of years and perhaps equally long for all cultures to embrace them fully, but it’s inevitable.

They already have the ability to grow animal muscle in the lab but it will be a long time before they can do it at a scale and a cost that will make it feasible as a mass food source. Hopefully that’s only decades away.

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Where’s a good snowball when you need one? And Joe Manchin is evil:

The United Kingdom Royal Air Force (RAF) on Monday had to cancel flights at certain bases in light of the country's extreme heatwave.

The RAF was forced to suspend flights into and out of the Brize Norton base near Oxfordshire on Monday, with Sky News first reporting that the situation was due to the extreme U.K. heat melting the runways, according to Reuters. The report was later confirmed by officials, with the RAF explaining that flights were being rerouted through bases that are safe to operate in and that standard military business had not been impacted.

"During this period of extreme temperature flight safety remains the RAF's top priority, so aircraft are using alternative airfields in line with a long-established plan. This means there is no impact on RAF operations," the U.K. Ministry of Defense wrote in a tweet about the situation

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18 hours ago, GreenspointTexas said:

RIP DFW water supply

So which goes first, the drought stricken/no water North TX area or the newly categorized Category 7 Super Hurricanes with 300mph winds that wipe out Houston and the TX coast?  If we just make climate change a gambling game we can all have fun, right?  Right?

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