The Climate thread

[elfenix 34,754]

 

i had never heard of this douchecanoe until yesterday. 

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20,931]

As I read about this and consider what happened it has to be one of the funniest things of all time.

1) Andrew Tate gets kicked off Twitter for being a misogynist, racist ditch pig.
2) Elon buys Twitter and promptly restores Andrew's account, thereby giving the ditch pig the rope by which he would hang himself
3) Andrew pisses off a teenager on social media by deliberately targeting her with a tweet in which he discusses the 33 dinosaurs he owns and uses to destroy the environment, thereby committing one of the classic blungers (along with not getting into a land war in Asia), which is to not get into a social media war with a teenager, because they will quickly destroy you.

4) Teenager promptly destroys Andrew, unleashing a short, pithy tweet that has already climbed into the top-25 liked tweets of all time and could be in the top 10 by the end of the weekend.  The whole world takes notice, including legacy media like NBC and the Washington Post, causing them to write stories about how Greta destroyed Andrew Tate.

5) Andrew, his ego entirely destroyed by virtue of having been humiliated by a 19-year-old autistic girl, makes a two-minute video in which he doxxes himself by bringing in the pizza boxes that reveal his location.

6) Unfortunately for him, Andrew is currently wanted for human trafficking, so he's now in jail.  

In short, had he not committed the classic blunder of getting into a social media fight with a teenager, he'd be driving around in his Bugatti right now, being the schmuck that he was, a free man.

Holy. Fucking. Shit. 

[staboner 5,086]

yeah thats some next level shit man

[brakeman 28,753]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When you tip off the cops With your big pizza box That’s Amore

[High Plains Drifter 11,191]

On 12/29/2022 at 6:23 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

As I read about this and consider what happened it has to be one of the funniest things of all time.

1) Andrew Tate gets kicked off Twitter for being a misogynist, racist ditch pig.
2) Elon buys Twitter and promptly restores Andrew's account, thereby giving the ditch pig the rope by which he would hang himself
3) Andrew pisses off a teenager on social media by deliberately targeting her with a tweet in which he discusses the 33 dinosaurs he owns and uses to destroy the environment, thereby committing one of the classic blungers (along with not getting into a land war in Asia), which is to not get into a social media war with a teenager, because they will quickly destroy you.

4) Teenager promptly destroys Andrew, unleashing a short, pithy tweet that has already climbed into the top-25 liked tweets of all time and could be in the top 10 by the end of the weekend.  The whole world takes notice, including legacy media like NBC and the Washington Post, causing them to write stories about how Greta destroyed Andrew Tate.

5) Andrew, his ego entirely destroyed by virtue of having been humiliated by a 19-year-old autistic girl, makes a two-minute video in which he doxxes himself by bringing in the pizza boxes that reveal his location.

6) Unfortunately for him, Andrew is currently wanted for human trafficking, so he's now in jail.  

In short, had he not committed the classic blunder of getting into a social media fight with a teenager, he'd be driving around in his Bugatti right now, being the schmuck that he was, a free man.

Holy. Fucking. Shit. 

 

Seriously, no snark, thank you for this well written and informative summary. Because I had no idea what was going on.

 

[elfenix 34,754]

Big pumped storage facility in Portugal nears completion

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/03/business/energy-environment/portugal-hydroelectric-power-renewable-energy.html

[Hornius Emeritus 12,806]

Andrew Tate has 11 luxury cars seized by Romanian authorities, including the 3 million dollar Bugatti he used to taunt Greta Thunburg regarding his carbon emissions.The fuck around and find out dimensions of this story are growing rapidly. 

Apparently, Andrew Tate carbon emissions now = 0. 

https://nypost.com/2023/01/04/2-9m-buggati-among-11-cars-seized-from-andrew-tate/
 

[elfenix 34,754]

Going to build a compressed air battery deep underground in Cali

https://www.latimes.com/environment/newsletter/2023-01-12/this-giant-underground-battery-is-a-1-billion-clean-energy-solution-boiling-point

[Post Oak 20,570]

30 minutes ago, elfenix said:

Going to build a compressed air battery deep underground in Cali

https://www.latimes.com/environment/newsletter/2023-01-12/this-giant-underground-battery-is-a-1-billion-clean-energy-solution-boiling-point

All of this is incredibly exciting I just wish they would've started 30 years ago

[Post Oak 20,570]

This was an interesting watch.  Still don't really don't understand it but I'm glad some people do.

 

[Bullneck 19,542]

 

Senator Boner, you say?  Why yes.

https://wyoleg.gov/Legislators/2023/S/2021

I felt bad for The Virginian after his little faux pas on the football board, getting negged into Bolivia.  Maybe not so much anymore.

[elfenix 34,754]

what a dumbass.  denver and SLC should be running on wyoming wind

 

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#6. Wyoming

- Potential wind energy capacity: 472,418 megawatts
- Currently installed wind energy capacity: 2,738 megawatts
- Current wind energy generation as percent of state's electric grid: 12.3%

New installations almost doubled Wyoming’s wind power capacity in 2020. Beyond that, profits from the industry are boosting tax revenues, even though funds from fossil fuels are disappearing over time.

 

https://stacker.com/environment/states-most-untapped-wind-energy-potential

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by elfenix

[Biff Tannen 46,170]

34 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

 

Senator Boner, you say?  Why yes.

https://wyoleg.gov/Legislators/2023/S/2021

I felt bad for The Virginian after his little faux pas on the football board, getting negged into Bolivia.  Maybe not so much anymore.

My god.  Wyoming.  Always on the cusp of everything that is fucking wrong.  Just face palm.  

Paraphrase from Ken Burns' National Parks:

Wyoming rails against expanding the national parks (Tetons) and then puts them on their license plates.

 

Basically, everything they do is wrong.

 

Edited January 17, 2023 by Biff Tannen

[4th&Five 42,010]

 

[EuroHorn 3,295]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertbryce/2022/10/28/the-iron-law-of-electricity-strikes-again-germany-re-opens-five-lignite-fired-power-plants/?sh=174c41d83d0c

 

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Last week, numerous media outlets reported that Germany will extend the lives of three of its nuclear power plants. The move to keep the reactors online, which was opposed by the country’s Green Party, showed that German politicians are recognizing the need to keep reliable generation plants online to assure the country has enough electricity this winter.

But another equally important announcement was also made last week that got far less media attention: German Chancellor Olaf Scholz announced that Germany was reopening five power plants that burn lignite, a low-rank coal. Germany’s return to lignite demonstrates, yet again, the Iron Law of Electricity, which says that people, businesses, and governments will do whatever they have to do to get the electricity they need.

 

[WhatTheBuck 28,931]

18 hours ago, Bullneck said:

 

Senator Boner, you say?  Why yes.

https://wyoleg.gov/Legislators/2023/S/2021

I felt bad for The Virginian after his little faux pas on the football board, getting negged into Bolivia.  Maybe not so much anymore.

More weaponized stupidity from the GOP. 

[MC Fresh Breath 4,075]

On 12/29/2022 at 4:23 PM, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

As I read about this and consider what happened it has to be one of the funniest things of all time.

1) Andrew Tate gets kicked off Twitter for being a misogynist, racist ditch pig.
2) Elon buys Twitter and promptly restores Andrew's account, thereby giving the ditch pig the rope by which he would hang himself
3) Andrew pisses off a teenager on social media by deliberately targeting her with a tweet in which he discusses the 33 dinosaurs he owns and uses to destroy the environment, thereby committing one of the classic blungers (along with not getting into a land war in Asia), which is to not get into a social media war with a teenager, because they will quickly destroy you.

4) Teenager promptly destroys Andrew, unleashing a short, pithy tweet that has already climbed into the top-25 liked tweets of all time and could be in the top 10 by the end of the weekend.  The whole world takes notice, including legacy media like NBC and the Washington Post, causing them to write stories about how Greta destroyed Andrew Tate.

5) Andrew, his ego entirely destroyed by virtue of having been humiliated by a 19-year-old autistic girl, makes a two-minute video in which he doxxes himself by bringing in the pizza boxes that reveal his location.

6) Unfortunately for him, Andrew is currently wanted for human trafficking, so he's now in jail.  

In short, had he not committed the classic blunder of getting into a social media fight with a teenager, he'd be driving around in his Bugatti right now, being the schmuck that he was, a free man.

Holy. Fucking. Shit. 

This was a good read.  And then I saw this, which she supposedly posted after his arrest:

 

[Biff Tannen 46,170]

2 hours ago, EuroHorn said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/robertbryce/2022/10/28/the-iron-law-of-electricity-strikes-again-germany-re-opens-five-lignite-fired-power-plants/?sh=174c41d83d0c

 

 

Thanks for being a bunch of dicks Russia.

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Global coal demand has been soaring for months. European electric utilities are scrambling to buy as much coal as they can to replace Russian natural gas. 

And I agree with him here:

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But right now, the idea of a “climate-neutral” energy sector in Germany and nearly every other country on the planet, is taking a distant back seat to the more immediate need to keep the lights on. I will end by repeating the same message I have been touting for more than a dozen years: If the countries of the world are serious about reducing their greenhouse gas emissions, the way forward is N2N: natural gas to nuclear. And if the goal is to decarbonize the electricity and industrial sectors and do so quickly, the goal must be to develop and deploy smaller, safer, cheaper nuclear reactors, and do so by the thousands.

 

[Guest]

Read this article about Brian Kemp, the guv of Georgia. Essentially, his position is that he's not fretting about climate, but sees lots of jobs with going "green" so he welcomes the change instead of fighting it. Seem like a no-brainer if you're on the right side of the aisle instead of fighting against it all.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/01/13/brian-kemp-electric-car-georgia-00077579

[Dahobbs 18,328]

1 hour ago, Biff Tannen said:

Thanks for being a bunch of dicks Russia.

And I agree with him here:

 

Mass nuclear is pipe dream under our current system. It is simply too expensive to build and operate. And there still isn't much of a reason it should be necessary. Solar and wind can hold up a significant majority of the grid, especially with storage support, at a fraction of the price. Natural gas can handle the remaining 20%-25%, with carbon capture getting us to net neutral. Nuclear would need to 75% or greater price reduction in order to be competitive. 

[Willfully Horn 8,266]

Who could have seen this coming? Certainly no one can criticize AZ selling the water rights of their “emergency” aquifer to SA, during tfg’s America First, and (inshallah) only, term. Amirite?

 

Arizona suburb sues the city of Scottsdale for cutting off its water supply  

 

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An Arizona suburb has filed a lawsuit against the city of Scottsdale after the city cut off the community from its municipal water supply amid extreme drought conditions and declining water levels in the Colorado River.

In the lawsuit, filed Thursday in Maricopa County Superior Court, residents in the unincorporated community of Rio Verde Foothills are seeking an injunction against Scottsdale to force the city to resume water services.

The dispute comes after the federal government last year announced unprecedented water cuts in Arizona due to water shortages along the Colorado River. The Biden administration has urged seven states to reduce water usage 2 to 4 million acre-feet, up to a third of the river’s average flow, as drought conditions grow worse in the Colorado River basin.

The river’s decline has prompted the loss of three quarters of the water from the country’s largest reservoirs. Last week, Arizona Gov. Katie Hobbs unveiled a report showing that the desert west of Phoenix doesn’t have enough groundwater supplies to move forward plans to construct homes in the area.

Scottsdale warned Rio Verde Foothills more than a year ago that the town’s water supply would be cut off as it faced projections of a historic drought and dwindling reservoir levels in the western U.S. Scottsdale said it must focus on water conservation for its own residents and would not continue to sell water to the roughly 500 homes in Rio Verde Foothills.

Earlier this month, hundreds of homes outside of Scottsdale could no longer access water from the city, leaving residents with no reliable source of water.

Rio Verde Foothills residents said Scottsdale is in a position to accept delivery of water from EPCOR, a water utility company, and treat the water for domestic use at EPCOR’s expense so that residents have water during the 24-to-36-month time period that the company needs to get the necessary approval to do so, according to the lawsuit.

However, Scottsdale has said it would not work with any external companies to provide Rio Verde Foothills residents with water, arguing that it’s not legally obligated to continue providing water service to Rio Verde Foothills since the town lies beyond Scottsdale’s municipal boundaries.

Scottsdale, in a statement issued on Monday, said that Rio Verde Foothills is a separate community governed by Maricopa County and the city’s action does not preclude Rio Verde Foothills residents from purchasing water from other sources.

“Scottsdale has warned and advised that it is not responsible for Rio Verde for many years, especially given the requirements of the City’s mandated drought plan,” the statement read. “The city remains firm in that position, and confident it is on the right side of the law.”

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/17/arizona-suburb-sues-scottsdale-for-cutting-off-its-water-supply-.html

Edited January 19, 2023 by Willfully Horn
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[Gap03 3,391]

14 minutes ago, Willfully Horn said:

Who could have seen this coming? Certainly no one can criticize AZ selling the water rights of their “emergency” aquifer to SA, during tfg’s America First, and (inshallah) only, term. Amirite?

 

Arizona suburb sues the city of Scottsdale for cutting off its water supply  

 

https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/17/arizona-suburb-sues-scottsdale-for-cutting-off-its-water-supply-.html

Holy shit - I had not heard about the Saudis use of AZ water to - wait for it - grow fucking alfalfa in the middle of the desert for export back to SA.  I don't know how much 22,400 acre-ft per year goes, but that is still some monumentally stupid gov't action.

Saudi firm has pumped Arizona groundwater for years without paying. Time to pony up (yahoo.com)

[brakeman 28,753]

Fucked we are, find out we will.

[Biff Tannen 46,170]

5 minutes ago, brakeman said:

Fucked we are, find out we will.

Yep.  We are past the tipping point.  Now it's adaptation time.

[hookem2010 2,700]

Pretty crazy that with just a couple hundred years of "progress", we're going to do more damage to the planet than an enormous fucking meteorite. I don't know if it's more depressing that we are dumb enough to get to this point, or that so few people seem to give a shit. 

[brakeman 28,753]

50 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Pretty crazy that with just a couple hundred years of "progress", we're going to do more damage to the planet than an enormous fucking meteorite. I don't know if it's more depressing that we are dumb enough to get to this point, or that so few people seem to give a shit. 

greedy enough.

[elfenix 34,754]

1 hour ago, hookem2010 said:

Pretty crazy that with just a couple hundred years of "progress", we're going to do more damage to the planet than an enormous fucking meteorite. I don't know if it's more depressing that we are dumb enough to get to this point, or that so few people seem to give a shit. 

what's crazy is that you don't have to go all that far back to get to when we'd only released half the fossil carbon than we now have. 

Edited January 21, 2023 by elfenix

[brakeman 28,753]

 

Fucked, we are.

[Biff Tannen 46,170]

10 hours ago, brakeman said:

 

Fucked, we are.

Find out, we will.

[RomaVicta 30,604]

American House Stark: Don't worry, winter will never come.

Sigil:

[TexArcher 39,074]

On 1/17/2023 at 1:37 PM, MC Fresh Breath said:

This was a good read.  And then I saw this, which she supposedly posted after his arrest:

 

She's such a little badass.

[High Plains Drifter 11,191]

12 hours ago, brakeman said:

 

Fucked, we are.

 

The gulf stream is the only thing that keeps the british isles from being a giant ice sheet.

Of course the morons will claim we need more warming when Great Britain completely freezes over.

 

 

[Biff Tannen 46,170]

https://www.nytimes.com/2023/01/26/climate/mining-ban-boundary-waters-copper.html

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WASHINGTON — The Biden administration on Thursday said it will establish a 20-year moratorium on mining upstream from Minnesota’s Boundary Waters Canoe Area Wilderness, a vast preserve of lakes and woods that has been at the center of a fierce dispute over a proposed copper and nickel mine.

The plan withdraws from mineral leasing about 225,504 acres of watershed in the Superior National Forest. It could doom a proposed bid from Twin Metals Minnesota LLC, which had sought to build an underground mine in Ely, at the doorstep of the wilderness area. The Biden administration had already canceled the company’s two federal minerals-rights leases, and the new move drastically reduces the chance that the project will be revived.

 

[Neonmoon 38,130]

On 1/21/2023 at 12:51 AM, elfenix said:

what's crazy is that you don't have to go all that far back to get to when we'd only released half the fossil carbon than we now have. 

The next 100 years are going to suuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. 
 

Thankfully I will be gone

[BevoAbyss 2,184]

We humans are not merely "changing" the climate, we are disrupting the climate as we wreak havoc on the living systems on Earth and transform the surface of Earth. Check out this 3-minute video. 

 

[brakeman 28,753]

Auckland Airport, New Zealand.

 

[Willfully Horn 8,266]

This is badass!

 

Researchers have successfully split seawater without pre-treatment to produce green hydrogen.

The international team was led by the University of Adelaide’s Professor Shizhang Qiao and Associate Professor Yao Zheng from the School of Chemical Engineering.

“We have split natural seawater into oxygen and hydrogen with nearly 100 per cent efficiency, to produce green hydrogen by electrolysis, using a non-precious and cheap catalyst in a commercial electrolyser,” said Professor Qiao.

A typical non-precious catalyst is cobalt oxide with chromium oxide on its surface.

“We used seawater as a feedstock without the need for any pre-treatment processes like reverse osmosis desolation, purification, or alkalisation,” said Associate Professor Zheng.

“The performance of a commercial electrolyser with our catalysts running in seawater is close to the performance of platinum/iridium catalysts running in a feedstock of highly purified deionised water.

The team published their research in the journal Nature Energy. 

“Current electrolysers are operated with highly purified water electrolyte. Increased demand for hydrogen to partially or totally replace energy generated by fossil fuels will significantly increase scarcity of increasingly limited freshwater resources,” said Associate Professor Zheng.

Seawater is an almost infinite resource and is considered a natural feedstock electrolyte. This is more practical for regions with long coastlines and abundant sunlight. However, it isn’t practical for regions where seawater is scarce.

Seawater electrolysis is still in early development compared with pure water electrolysis because of electrode side reactions, and corrosion arising from the complexities of using seawater. 

“It is always necessary to treat impure water to a level of water purity for conventional electrolysers including desalination and deionisation, which increases the operation and maintenance cost of the processes,” said Associate Professor Zheng.

“Our work provides a solution to directly utilise seawater without pre-treatment systems and alkali addition, which shows similar performance as that of existing metal-based mature pure water electrolyser.”

The team will work on scaling up the system by using a larger electrolyser so that it can be used in commercial processes such as hydrogen generation for fuel cells and ammonia synthesis.
 

https://www.adelaide.edu.au/newsroom/news/list/2023/01/30/seawater-split-to-produce-green-hydrogen

[brakeman 28,753]

 

[elfenix 34,754]

 

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A Danish wind turbine giant just discovered how to recycle all blades

https://electrek.co/2023/02/08/wind-turbine-recycle-blades/

 

 

[High Plains Drifter 11,191]

 

From Will's link:

 

cobalt oxide with chromium oxide

 

Those metals may not be "precious", but mining for cobalt in the Congo is absolutely horrific. Yes, there are probably other cobalt mines in canada or someplace that are not as bad, but currently those mines would not be able to cover the world wide demand. And no company (tesla, apple, whoever is using rechargable Li ion batteries) can say they aren't using cobalt extracted from child labor under slave-like conditions.

 

https://www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2023/02/01/1152893248/red-cobalt-congo-drc-mining-siddharth-kara

 

 

I would guess that mining for chromium is no walk in the tulips either.

 

 

Edited February 13, 2023 by High Plains Drifter

[brakeman 28,753]

 

[brakeman 28,753]

Fuck off, coca cola!

200,000 plastic bottles a minute.
 

[brakeman 28,753]

[Neonmoon 38,130]

6 minutes ago, brakeman said:

Dammit. That’s good. I need to make one for the savings and loan crisis, the 2008 sub prime crisis, etc 

[Biff Tannen 46,170]

4 hours ago, brakeman said:

Fuck off, coca cola!

200,000 plastic bottles a minute.
 

Think about Nestle, Pepsi, Smartwater, all of them combined.  It's just mind blowing.  We have created SO much plastic and were lied to for decades about the recycling capability of it.  I don't think we can come back from it.  Even if we stopped today, it wouldn't be enough.  We need to find a microbe that eats plastic on an industrial scale or something.

[brakeman 28,753]

 

[brakeman 28,753]

Sad.

 

[brakeman 28,753]

https://cns.utexas.edu/news/plastic-eating-enzyme-could-eliminate-billions-of-tons-of-landfill-waste

[elfenix 34,754]

i forgot erin brockovich is a real person. 

[Post Oak 20,570]

Heat Pumps Sell Like Hotcakes on America’s Oil-Rich Frontier

In Alaska, people are flocking to buy electric appliances instead of fuel-guzzling furnaces, as oil prices soar and temperatures plummet.

 

We’re actually testing a heat pump in our lab this spring where the cutoff temperature is –31 degrees Fahrenheit,” she says. “That was unheard of 10 years ago.”

 

https://www.wired.com/story/heat-pumps-alaska-oil-energy-prices/amp