Joe Biden 2022: Enter Dark Brandon

[Chuckie Finster 22,752]

19 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What do we do with them? Just let them die in the street?

Republicans:

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Chuckie Finster

[wildcat09 29,419]

52 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

That’s a lazy take, on both accounts. 

The fact that it’s an extremely easy observation to make doesn’t make it lazy.

[aggie08 21,550]

24 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I take it that you understand that not everyone can get an engineering degree, including, apparently, you.

If society is indeed a bell curve, then 50% of people are below average. A full third of them substantially so.  Our society is becoming increasingly economically stratified, so that the lower rungs get less and less and worse and worse opportunity. 

What do we do with them? Just let them die in the street?

Fuck you, got mine.

[Snake Diggity 4,627]

9 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Also, you are chalking too much up to luck. If you feel like you’ve contributed nothing to where you are, ok, but I’d bet that isn’t the case.  I don’t fault people for voting in their best interest. If we have that many can’t get right folks out there, well I assume D’s will be able to buy their votes for a good long while. If they can vote in their best interest, I think I should be able to as well. 

There is a book called The Tyranny of Merit that I think you would benefit from reading.  Your posts remind me of myself from 7 years ago.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Snake Diggity

[fattyflattie 4,638]

21 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

I take it that you understand that not everyone can get an engineering degree, including, apparently, you.

Yes, I found my calling in other avenues but still ended up directing them.  Only one of many examples, however, of how stupid easy it is to make money with plenty of degrees. 

23 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

What do we do with them? Just let them die in the street?

Of course not. Those who bust their ass and trade their souls for a paycheck will continue to make sure they are fed, bedded, and educated.  Hell some of us even get to share the neighborhood. 
 

15 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Well yeah.  They should have pulled themselves up by their bootstraps.

Finish high school, don’t get pregnant before 25, and don’t do drugs.  That’s the magic recipe.  It isn’t that fucking hard.  No bootstraps involved. 
 

 

[F250 28,826]

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Fuck you, got mine.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,146]

9 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Also, you are chalking too much up to luck. If you feel like you’ve contributed nothing to where you are, ok, but I’d bet that isn’t the case.  I don’t fault people for voting in their best interest. If we have that many can’t get right folks out there, well I assume D’s will be able to buy their votes for a good long while. If they can vote in their best interest, I think I should be able to as well. 

Except for 90% of the people voting for the GQP are not voting for their self interest. Somehow, the GQP has gaslighted them into thinking that they are voting in their self interest while increasingly making it easier for corporations and the 1% to build wealth at the expense of everyone else.

[fattyflattie 4,638]

4 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Fuck you, got mine.

Earned mine.  But, yeah.  My prerogative is what’s best for me and my family. Not some dipshit who decided to cut high school and do drugs. Oh you woke up 30 and poor? Can’t find a job with that criminal history.  Please excuse me while I don’t gaf. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,146]

11 hours ago, Bama Chick said:

Pfffffft.

It’s an insult to women to suggest getting a thumbs down on a message board requires gynecological care for a troublesome period.

The harassment Penelope receives on this board is actually disgusting not to mention the regular occurrences of threats of violence and the virulent harassment almost all women are subjected to at some point or another all over the internet.

I’ve received absolutely scary threatening PMs here - one of which mentioned my personal Twitter account and the town I live in.

Fuck DonkeyDick and all the other manbabies who get all worked up AND TATTLE TALE TO AN ADMIN because a woman has the gall to give them A NEG ON A FUCKING MESSAGE BOARD.

This.  Amazing how big of titty babies most of them really are.  The key is that they are misogynists and do not like women who are not submissive.  Fuck them.

 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,146]

9 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Fuck you, got mine.

This is how fatty has been for ages.  He is ok kicking the ladder down after he got to the top.  It is known.

[aggie08 21,550]

I guess it shouldn't surprise me anymore how quickly people abandon empathy for the perception (and rarely the reality) of saving a few hundred bucks a year on their tax return.

The last few pages is a pretty disappointing reminder of what we're dealing with and how effective Republican messaging is. Fatty is smarter than most, but it's still the usual "Democrats want free college for everyone, socialist healthcare, poor people to have free cell phones, and to take all of our guns!!!"

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by aggie08
Oh, and poor people are all drug using dropouts. Duh!

[Chuckie Finster 22,752]

15 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Finish high school, don’t get pregnant before 25, and don’t do drugs.  That’s the magic recipe.  It isn’t that fucking hard.  No bootstraps involved. 

This is such a simplified view of humanity and so far removed from reality that I'm wondering if I should be insulted or feel sorry for how sheltered you must be.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Chuckie Finster

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

12 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

you guys and your short memories. 

if it was a man, trump would walk away and not answer the question. 

if it was a woman, trump would call them or the question nasty, then walk away and not answer the question. 

he’s too much of a pussy to do what biden did. 

Only if it was Rosie O'Donnell.

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

9 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

40% of america can’t be counted on to get a life-saving free vaccine and you expect them to pay for college?

85% of American adults have had at least one shot.

[Biff Tannen 45,748]

9 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

I guess it shouldn't surprise me anymore how quickly people abandon empathy for the perception (and rarely the reality) of saving a few hundred bucks a year on their tax return.

The last few pages is a pretty disappointing reminder of what we're dealing with and how effective Republican messaging is. Fatty is smarter than most, but it's still the usual "Democrats want free college for everyone, socialist healthcare, poor people to have free cell phones, and to take all of our guns!!!"

 

Man, I thought for a minute he was going to have a real discussion, but it QUICKLY devolved into right wing talking point nonsense.

[Celery Man 21,002]

If you think Biden and Trump are morally equivalent, you're a rube.

[gmr548 16,617]

Finish high school, don’t get pregnant before 25, and don’t do drugs.  That’s the magic recipe.  It isn’t that fucking hard.  No bootstraps involved. 
 
 

Lmao everyone loses touch a bit as they age but good lord.

[wildcat09 29,419]

29 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Finish high school, don’t get pregnant before 25, and don’t do drugs.  That’s the magic recipe.  It isn’t that fucking hard.  No bootstraps involved. 

 

 

Tell me you don’t understand causation without telling me you don’t understand causation.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,559]

20 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Earned mine.  But, yeah.  My prerogative is what’s best for me and my family. Not some dipshit who decided to cut high school and do drugs. Oh you woke up 30 and poor? Can’t find a job with that criminal history.  Please excuse me while I don’t gaf. 

You really don’t get how civilization and society work do you?  I happen to be a Surly 1%er and I worked my tail off to get to this point.  After graduating UT with my BA degree it really didn’t come in too handy in the real world.   I struggled at the beginning, working shit jobs for like no money but I was able to work my way up that Ladder of Success.  I was fortunate that I came from a fairly well to do family so while I struggled, I knew that I always had that “safety net” from my family just in case things went south.  I knew I wouldn’t be living on the streets or anything.  Unfortunately, there are a lot of people that don’t have that backstop in their lives.   That is where local, state and federal governments come in to play.  They can be that safety net to make sure that a bunch of people don’t fall into the abyss.  

Now you can argue that we should take care of everyone because we are good human beings.  That is part of it but honestly there is also a selfish reason the people that have done well in this country should make sure the people struggling are able to live good lives.  If we don’t then they can rise up and take out the wealthy (see French Revolution and many other examples) and destroy the world as we know it for everybody (rich/poor, young/old, R/D, etc…)  It’s really a neat thing that by helping people we can also help ourselves so everybody lives in a better and safer world.  Your worldview is really that of a simpleton and it is quite sad.  

[Biff Tannen 45,748]

This mentality is just something I will never understand.  I am pretty well off and was born into a pretty good situation.  Yeah, I worked decently hard, but I'm well aware I've been given a TON of opportunity.  Way more than a lot of people.  That said, I can't fathom feeling like people in other walks of life don't deserve to have those same opportunities.  If that means those of us in positions like mine (or better) need to help them to that point, I have zero issue with that.  It only seems fair.

But there is this bizarre, almost gleeful, attitude in putting down those less fortunate and looking down on them with scorn and disdain.  I just don't get it.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Biff Tannen
also what beantown said

[Celery Man 21,002]

Is fatty the same genius who argued for a billion pages about how poor people don't need cell phones?

[henrygandorf 29,195]

12 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Shhh, it messes with the narrative. 

63% of people are fully vaccinated. there is no narrative. this isn’t left or right. this is responsible or irresponsible, and i was referencing morons. 

[gmr548 16,617]

Weird, the exact opposite happened. Seems like Putin was emboldened. This did not age well. 
 

Lmao you continue to show your ass and build a case for a spot on the Mount Rushmore of dumbest posters on this entire site, including even the football board.

Yes, Putin is encroaching on Ukraine out of the blue, emboldened by Biden’s presidency. This has not been building for nearly a decade and our lord and savior Donald J Trump, noted for his hardline stance on Russian aggression would have prevented this!

I’d love to hear how exactly you think this should be handled.

[TurkeyChew 383]

19 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Is fatty the same genius who argued for a billion pages about how poor people don't need cell phones?

That was AgwithKids. Keep up if you want to be smarmy. 

[fattyflattie 4,638]

17 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Your worldview is really that of a simpleton and it is quite sad.  

This is easy to say in your position.  You were the one in the retirement thread saying you make 4-5 times those under you, that work 7 days a week, right?  And that you could easily afford to retire but haven’t because why not, hand over fist easy money right?  I don’t blame you one bit, you’ve earned it. But it sounds like you hold a lot more ability to immediately impact others lives, financially, and choose to continue to pile money. Yet so quick to judge others selfishness.  Weird. 
 

46 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

Fatty is smarter than most, but it's still the usual "Democrats want free college for everyone, socialist healthcare, poor people to have free cell phones, and to take all of our guns!!!"

I wouldn’t say that, ever. I’ve sacrificed literal years away from my children, not at the office, but on the other side of the world.  A smarter person could have done the same from home.  I largely participate in the political forums to read what the more intelligent posters post. 
 

49 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

"Democrats want free college for everyone, socialist healthcare, poor people to have free cell phones, and to take all of our guns!!!"

Maybe it’s the Democrats inaffective messaging?  Since college I have watched less than 3-4 hours of any cable news (airports maybe?).  I listen to sports radio, NPR, and every now and again Michael Berry in small doses.  My messaging comes from things linked here, and they wants/ideas/expectations from posters that follow politics closely. 
 

1 hour ago, Snake Diggity said:

There is a book called The Tyranny of Merit that I think you would benefit from reading.  Your posts remind me of myself from 7 years ago.

I’ll look into it. I’m curious as to what changed for you, specifically 7 years ago. 

 

I will say I would find the lecturing more to heart if it wasn’t coming from extremely well educated, mostly well to do, professionals.  I mean half of y’all participate in the look at my $10000 watch thread (one for each day of the week!!), another who just sold millions of dollars in family land, and several more who jetset across the world to vacation several times a year.  Y’all all work hard, I’m all for it. The gap between several of you and me is greater than mine and a 25 yo who can’t afford a house because they have school loans from UT. So a bit of perspective might be good for y’all, too.  

[Chuckie Finster 22,752]

17 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Shhh, it messes with the narrative. 

 

[Celery Man 21,002]

3 minutes ago, TurkeyChew said:

That was AgwithKids. Keep up if you want to be smarmy. 

I don't think you know what being smarmy is (or what being quick is like, for that matter).

[TurkeyChew 383]

1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I take it that you understand that not everyone can get an engineering degree, including, apparently, you.

If society is indeed a bell curve, then 50% of people are below average. A full third of them substantially so.  Our society is becoming increasingly economically stratified, so that the lower rungs get less and less and worse and worse opportunity. 

What do we do with them? Just let them die in the street?

There was an awesome platform led by a good guy that the Dems completely tore into and ate up even through the primaries and then the NY election who had an idea about this. Started with a U and ended with an I, but I'm horrible at wordle so can't remember....

[TurkeyChew 383]

Just now, Celery Man said:

I don't think you know what being smarmy is (or what being quick is like, for that matter).

I think trying to pile-on with a fake take is smarmy. Maybe it's not, but we do agree on one thing. Both of us think the other one does not know what smarmy or quick or probably a whole host of other things, is. Simpatico, we are.

[fattyflattie 4,638]

21 minutes ago, Celery Man said:

Is fatty the same genius who argued for a billion pages about how poor people don't need cell phones?

I wasn’t the main driver on that one, but did have some poor takes on the needs of smartphones. I didn’t know there were sub 1k smart phones since that’s all my wife seems to know exists. Next you’ll tell me the last more than 18 months…  

I was humbled on it, agreed with @TwiceHorn (iirc) who brought it to my attention, and moved on. I understand you need a phone line if you want a call back for a job.  I’m for everyone working. It’s the choose not to work crowd that I dislike. Somehow, that narrative has been morphed into fatty hates all poor people, but whatever.  My entire side of East Texas family would anecdotally tell you that’s not the case, well most of them. 

[jimmyjazz 46,213]

9 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

I've already paid for my school, and my wife's school, and a shitload of my kids' future school.

Sounds like your kids are silver spoon, entitled freeloaders.

[henrygandorf 29,195]

still not getting all the hate for drugs. some are really fun. 

[TurkeyChew 383]

Just now, henrygandorf said:

still not getting all the hate for drugs. some are really fun. 

Yang wanted to decriminalize too! Man we really missed an oppty in hindsight, didn't we?

[StassneyHorn 6,643]

The free phone program literally began with the Reagan administration creating a tax to subsidize phone plans for low income families in 1984. It was expanded in 2009 and didn’t cover smart phones.

Not one progressive cares that you hunt or go to skeet tournaments. Nobody is taking your grandpap’s gun or whatever love story you have for it.

Not one cares about your diesel truck that pulls livestock. Those companies will create their own energy efficient vehicles in their own.

Going to another location 10 minutes away to vote wasn’t an option for 2/3rds of Texas counties that don’t have countywide voting or poll centers.

[fattyflattie 4,638]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Sounds like your kids are silver spoon, entitled freeloaders.

The American dream is to provide more for your children than you had.  If I could, I would make it to where they never had to financially worry a day in their entire lives, or their kids for that matter.  Aside from eating, that is the only reason I work.  The are all less than 10, so I guess good job at throwing insults at my small children?  I’ve got some low hanging fruit I could probably throw at yours(?), but I’ll let you have this one. 

[henrygandorf 29,195]

Just now, StassneyHorn said:

The free phone program literally began with the Reagan administration creating a tax to subsidize phone plans for low income families in 1984. It was expanded in 2009 and didn’t cover smart phones.

Not one progressive cares that you hunt or go to skeet tournaments. Nobody is taking your grandpap’s gun or whatever love story you have for it.

Not one cares about your diesel truck that pulls livestock. Those companies will create their own energy efficient vehicles in their own.

Going to another location 10 minutes away to vote wasn’t an option for 2/3rds of Texas counties that don’t have countywide voting or poll centers.

“progressives want to cancel me!” is straight up fox news propaganda. nobody gives a shit. 

i agree the dems have a messaging problem, because there is no fox news or a weak-minded viewership unwilling to turn the channel. 

[aggie08 21,550]

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

The American dream is to provide more for your children than you had.  If I could, I would make it to where they never had to financially worry a day in their entire lives, or their kids for that matter.  Aside from eating, that is the only reason I work.  The are all less than 10, so I guess good job at throwing insults at my small children?  I’ve got some low hanging fruit I could probably throw at yours(?), but I’ll let you have this one. 

His point was that not every kid has that tremendous built-in advantage.

[wildcat09 29,419]

Just now, aggie08 said:

His point was that not every kid has that tremendous built-in advantage.

Fatty absolutely does not give a shit about other people's kids.

[aggie08 21,550]

9 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I’m for everyone working. It’s the choose not to work crowd that I dislike.

You say that you don't consume cable news or the right's main talking points, yet you perpetuate the myth that there's a large segment of our population living strictly off of welfare checks with no effort or desire to ever work.

[hayden_horn 11,365]

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Yes, I found my calling in other avenues but still ended up directing them.  Only one of many examples, however, of how stupid easy it is to make money with plenty of degrees. 

Of course not. Those who bust their ass and trade their souls for a paycheck will continue to make sure they are fed, bedded, and educated.  Hell some of us even get to share the neighborhood. 
 

Finish high school, don’t get pregnant before 25, and don’t do drugs.  That’s the magic recipe.  It isn’t that fucking hard.  No bootstraps involved. 
 

 

 

1 hour ago, fattyflattie said:

Earned mine.  But, yeah.  My prerogative is what’s best for me and my family. Not some dipshit who decided to cut high school and do drugs. Oh you woke up 30 and poor? Can’t find a job with that criminal history.  Please excuse me while I don’t gaf. 

this reminds me of a former poster, but i can't remember who. maybe laphroaig? anyways.

my family story is a fucking car wreck. i was raised in a nuclear family, but i had half-siblings who were the result of...previous encounters with my mother. one had a dad who was murdered in a field during a bad drug deal; that's my brother. he's still alive.

my sister was raised by an asshole until my mother took them away from him and moved them away. that shit took a lot of guts on mom's part. she grew up poor, but went and made a successful life.

nevertheless, my sister had to deal with what i think was probably ptsd, and my brother too. for whatever reason, my brother was able to overcome, but she wasn't. he slipped into coke, and he got out of it. she slipped into meth. that eventually killed her. she got branded as a felon for having just a bit too much, and yeah, i was an uncle at 8 years old because she hung out with disreputable people and made a mistake. meanwhile, mom was a massive success in commercial real estate. she tried her best, and still couldn't fix the shit that happened. my sister died last year, and fuck you, dude for not even trying to understand what people are going through. her two kids are screwed up due to her addiction. she died because of it. and she was the son of a sheriff. my niece and nephew...i don't even know. i hope they are doing well. they don't return my calls. but i have no doubt there are significant mental issues there. my nephew was once put in custody of the state because the police were called when he was naked on the front lawn while my sister languished in a meth coma. bootstraps, right? 

you don't fucking get how hard some people have it. i had it easy. i went to decent schools, i went to texas, and i have a decent job. a lot of that is due to hard work, but i got fucking lucky to have the job i've got. ask @staboner to whom i really owe everything. i just made an appeal and got a chance. i've taken advantage. but i also got lucky because my mom figured shit out. she and my dad raised me pretty well, i reckon. 

but not everyone has that experience or that opportunity.

we earn our shit, but we also need the opportunity, and that's where the luck comes in. 

my sister is dead because of choices she made. but she was also a product of a shitty dad who my mom had to decide to leave. and people are complicated, and sometimes that takes longer than it should.

your simple fucking view of life is why people vote republican or make fun of joe biden. 

finish high school. my mom did that. but just that.

she also got pregnant before 25. regardless, she became a glass ceiling buster in the 80s in fucking dallas of all places. but still, there were ghosts. 

i don't think she did drugs, but who are we to point fingers? we ruin people's lives for drugs, which is what happened to my sister. never got a real job after her time at gatesville. fuck you, dude. she was an addict, and people like you take glee in the ruination of their lives. "shouldn't have done that" with no fucking context. 

[fattyflattie 4,638]

6 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

The free phone program literally began with the Reagan administration creating a tax to subsidize phone plans for low income families in 1984. It was expanded in 2009 and didn’t cover smart phones.

Cool. I’ll take your word for it. My understanding is a smart phone is now essential, however there are cheap models.  This is all I could quickly find on it. 
https://www.obamaphone.com/get-obama-phone

7 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Not one progressive cares that you hunt or go to skeet tournaments. Nobody is taking your grandpap’s gun or whatever love story you have for it.

This is bullshit, but ok. I guess I should have been pedantic and included 3 shot and other competitions. But yes, progressives love guns and definitely never try to twist the words of the 2nd to fit what they believe it means (#BoThSiDes) 

9 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Not one cares about your diesel truck that pulls livestock. Those companies will create their own energy efficient vehicles in their own.

 

Yes, these companies will be forced into EV production. But sure, progressives definitely don’t have an opinion on gas guzzling trucks.  
 

11 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Going to another location 10 minutes away to vote wasn’t an option for 2/3rds of Texas counties that don’t have countywide voting or poll centers.

Ah yes, rural Texas would be blue if we just put up a few more ballot boxes. Have at it, I’d rather spend my money there than lots of other places. 
 

 

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

29 minutes ago, henrygandorf said:

63% of people are fully vaccinated. there is no narrative. this isn’t left or right. this is responsible or irresponsible, and i was referencing morons. 

A good portion of people who are not vaccinated are at basically no risk from Covid.

Younger people are less likely to be vaxxed.

Kids do not need it.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,559]

19 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

This is easy to say in your position.  You were the one in the retirement thread saying you make 4-5 times those under you, that work 7 days a week, right?  And that you could easily afford to retire but haven’t because why not, hand over fist easy money right?  I don’t blame you one bit, you’ve earned it. But it sounds like you hold a lot more ability to immediately impact others lives, financially, and choose to continue to pile money. Yet so quick to judge others selfishness.  Weird. 
 

Interesting you bring this up.  I do well and the people that are in lower levels that report to me probably work harder than I do at this point as their manager (just like I did when I was working my way up by the way).  It has nothing to do with me piling up money.  I donate tons of money to causes that help peoples lives on a daily basis and am very involved with tons of charity organizations that do the same so I am proud of what I give back to society and my impact on many peoples lives.  Not trying to brag but not sure what you are calling out with your post.  That I have people that work for me in a Fortune 500 company that work harder than I do at this point?  Yeah, I guess that’s the case but it has nothing to do with impacting society as a whole as those people that work for me are in the top 1% so I don’t feel too bad for them.  Many of their stories are that of people that had nothing and worked their way up.  My best employee (someone who has been with me for a decade and is like family to me) was a refugee form a war torn country that came to this country with nothing and now is a successful business person through hard work which is kind of the American dream I would think.

[OneOfTheOutOfFocusGuys 2,097]

9 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

My taxes go up when R's are in.  Of course I'm making a fuck load more money when I'm laying pipe

IRS has been on steel shank's ass for years

[Biff Tannen 45,748]

51 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

It’s really a neat thing that by helping people we can also help ourselves so everybody lives in a better and safer world.

This is what, thank god, several insanely wealthy families coming out of the Gilded Age understood.  Roosevelts, Rockefellers, etc.  They had ZERO need to help out society, but they realized the tremendous influence they could have on the future of the nation. 

I fear this mentality does not exist in our present time, at least not by most of those at the top (billionaires going to space and whatnot).  Sure, you've got the Gates Foundation and other charities, but we need people with massive power and money to influence our politics in a positive way for society, not the nightmare that is occurring right now.

[Celery Man 21,002]

15 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I wasn’t the main driver on that one, but did have some poor takes on the needs of smartphones. I didn’t know there were sub 1k smart phones since that’s all my wife seems to know exists. Next you’ll tell me the last more than 18 months…  

I was humbled on it, agreed with @TwiceHorn (iirc) who brought it to my attention, and moved on. I understand you need a phone line if you want a call back for a job.  I’m for everyone working. It’s the choose not to work crowd that I dislike. Somehow, that narrative has been morphed into fatty hates all poor people, but whatever.  My entire side of East Texas family would anecdotally tell you that’s not the case, well most of them. 

It feels like a similar take, hence the question. But yes, wasn’t you, apologies.

It feels similar because “don’t get pregnant don’t do drugs go to work” demonstrates a similar middle/upper middle class disconnect about the realities a lot of people deal with as well as a disconnect about today versus 40 years ago. I would suggest that the “choose not to work” narrative is less reality and more something that has been fed to you. There are lazy shiftless people of all stripes, most people want to be productive and earn a living.

[henrygandorf 29,195]

3 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

A good portion of people who are not vaccinated are at basically no risk from Covid.

Younger people are less likely to be vaxxed.

Kids do not need it.

so we’re adding subjective disclaimers now?  cool cool. 

saying certain people “do not need it” is why hospitals have plenty of available beds, yeah?

not getting vaxxed affects others. i know this is a difficult concept for several people posting on this thread. 

selfishness is a disease. 

[fattyflattie 4,638]

5 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

 

this reminds me of a former poster, but i can't remember who. maybe laphroaig? anyways.

my family story is a fucking car wreck. i was raised in a nuclear family, but i had half-siblings who were the result of...previous encounters with my mother. one had a dad who was murdered in a field during a bad drug deal; that's my brother. he's still alive.

my sister was raised by an asshole until my mother took them away from him and moved them away. that shit took a lot of guts on mom's part. she grew up poor, but went and made a successful life.

nevertheless, my sister had to deal with what i think was probably ptsd, and my brother too. for whatever reason, my brother was able to overcome, but she wasn't. he slipped into coke, and he got out of it. she slipped into meth. that eventually killed her. she got branded as a felon for having just a bit too much, and yeah, i was an uncle at 8 years old because she hung out with disreputable people and made a mistake. meanwhile, mom was a massive success in commercial real estate. she tried her best, and still couldn't fix the shit that happened. my sister died last year, and fuck you, dude for not even trying to understand what people are going through. her two kids are screwed up due to her addiction. she died because of it. and she was the son of a sheriff. my niece and nephew...i don't even know. i hope they are doing well. they don't return my calls. but i have no doubt there are significant mental issues there. my nephew was once put in custody of the state because the police were called when he was naked on the front lawn while my sister languished in a meth coma. bootstraps, right? 

you don't fucking get how hard some people have it. i had it easy. i went to decent schools, i went to texas, and i have a decent job. a lot of that is due to hard work, but i got fucking lucky to have the job i've got. ask @staboner to whom i really owe everything. i just made an appeal and got a chance. i've taken advantage. but i also got lucky because my mom figured shit out. she and my dad raised me pretty well, i reckon. 

but not everyone has that experience or that opportunity.

we earn our shit, but we also need the opportunity, and that's where the luck comes in. 

my sister is dead because of choices she made. but she was also a product of a shitty dad who my mom had to decide to leave. and people are complicated, and sometimes that takes longer than it should.

your simple fucking view of life is why people vote republican or make fun of joe biden. 

finish high school. my mom did that. but just that.

she also got pregnant before 25. regardless, she became a glass ceiling buster in the 80s in fucking dallas of all places. but still, there were ghosts. 

i don't think she did drugs, but who are we to point fingers? we ruin people's lives for drugs, which is what happened to my sister. never got a real job after her time at gatesville. fuck you, dude. she was an addict, and people like you take glee in the ruination of their lives. "shouldn't have done that" with no fucking context. 

A lot to unpack there, but glad you seem to be doing well.  I remember at least the story about your sister, didn’t know she had passed tho.  It’s terrible that drugs exist. I don’t mind absorbing your anger, but I had nothing to do with any of that, and I wouldn’t expect you to be responsible for my families issues.  

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i'm actually fucking furious right now.

some of yall have no fucking idea, and everything is fucking simple

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3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Cool. I’ll take your word for it. My understanding is a smart phone is now essential, however there are cheap models.  This is all I could quickly find on it. 
https://www.obamaphone.com/get-obama-phone

This is bullshit, but ok. I guess I should have been pedantic and included 3 shot and other competitions. But yes, progressives love guns and definitely never try to twist the words of the 2nd to fit what they believe it means (#BoThSiDes) 

Yes, these companies will be forced into EV production. But sure, progressives definitely don’t have an opinion on gas guzzling trucks.  
 

Ah yes, rural Texas would be blue if we just put up a few more ballot boxes. Have at it, I’d rather spend my money there than lots of other places. 
 

 

You don’t have to take my word for it, it’s true. Posting a link to a website called Obamaphone.com seems like a poor choice for getting info. Have you tried Bideneatschildren.com?

Progressives do not want to end hunting or take away weapons for hunting. Weapons of war are more of their rallying point. You know that.

Companies “forced” into EV by innovation and competition. Acceptance of gas guzzling trucks isn’t a political party rally, everyone wants more fuel efficiency.

Rural Texas has large parts that are blue. Rural Texas has a much larger chunk that is Red, and would benefit that side.