Joe Biden 2022: Enter Dark Brandon

[JimmyJames 12,271]

Instead of sack lies about state funding of UT. 

https://onestop.utexas.edu/managing-costs/cost-tuition-rates/learn-more-about-tuition/sources-of-revenue/

[F250 28,775]

2 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

It’s not collective agriculture, and there are already govt assisted pricing and protections in place.  It’s a large reason corn is 10x what the price is now. You are under the impression our ag market is a completely free market?  

Admit it, you only favor government controlled agriculture and anti-free trade when it became a Republican thing to do. The trade war and attempt to cover it up with bail out money was absolutely fucking retarded. But millions of Republicans suddenly thought "Yeah, I think this is acceptable."

No offense but the things you are for and against have no logical consistency with the exception of following the decisions made by the GOP.

[Bookman 4,639]

4 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Far from it. And there are some major things that could be corrected in regards to our agriculture. But if you care about the less fortunate at all, you’ll want some systems in place to protect them. 

What's next commie? Public schools?

[fattyflattie 4,639]

9 minutes ago, F250 said:

Admit it, you only favor government controlled agriculture and anti-free trade when it became a Republican thing to do. The trade war and attempt to cover it up with bail out money was absolutely fucking retarded. But millions of Republicans suddenly thought "Yeah, I think this is acceptable."

 

I’m pretty fucking sure that’s been going on longer than I’ve been alive, but ok, sure thing Jan. R, D, whatever. Doesn’t really matter. If you want free market food, you are either wealthy or Thanos. 

[Disco Strangler 1,877]

57 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

I just want to thank Joe Biden for steering us out of the abyss and into the greatest economy this world has ever seen. Standing offer for the slackjaws on here from the cabal that we are here to help you with those bootstraps if you need any.

LGB

 

Ronald Regan!?!  The actor?

[Bama Chick 28,596]

If I have to pay for healthcare for everyone, I'll just make sure that Viagra is banned and flaccid penises stay flaccid. The state takes control of healthcare, I better control the state. 

[elfenix 34,240]

  

On 1/26/2022 at 9:06 AM, fattyflattie said:

Or, voice your opinion thru your vote. My understanding is there are still a lot more people who aren’t college educated, and I can’t imagine they just can’t wait to help pay for others who got the opportunity they weren’t afforded.   50-100k in college, 75-100k in daycare, misseditbythismuch.gif

  

3 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

I think these ideas will gain a lot more traction if/when everyone starts to contribute to income tax.  When such a large portion of our society commit so little (to nothing), it’s a hard sell, imo.  The top earners and contributors have insurance already.  Their families have insurance. Their friends have insurance.  

i didn't think when i posted this it would literally be the next day.

22 hours ago, elfenix said:

Conservatives: it’s not fair that people who didn’t go to college have to pay more taxes to pay for those who did!

Also conservatives: 47% don’t even pay taxes!

 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

2 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

If I have to pay for healthcare for everyone, I'll just make sure that Viagra is banned and flaccid penises stay flaccid. The state takes control of healthcare, I better control the state. 

Before you do that, I got to try that stuff once.  

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

5 minutes ago, Bama Chick said:

If I have to pay for healthcare for everyone, I'll just make sure that Viagra is banned and flaccid penises stay flaccid. The state takes control of healthcare, I better control the state. 

glad my dick still works #humblebrag

[F250 28,775]

37 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I’m pretty fucking sure that’s been going on longer than I’ve been alive, but ok, sure thing Jan. R, D, whatever. Doesn’t really matter. If you want free market food, you are either wealthy or Thanos. 

lulz

Try not to forget you are only saying this to justify that entire Trump Trade War fuck up.

 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

Just now, F250 said:

Try not to forget you are only saying this to justify that entire Trump Trade War fuck up.

I believe you and I are speaking of different things.  Not a single thing I've discussed has anything to do with that fucking guy, or because of him anyhow. 

[F250 28,775]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I believe you and I are speaking of different things.  Not a single thing I've discussed has anything to do with that fucking guy, or because of him anyhow. 

This conversation started with you jumping in and defending the ag bailouts that were issued because of the trade war.

 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

2 minutes ago, F250 said:

This conversation started with you jumping in and defending the ag bailouts that were issued because of the trade war.

 

The increase is neither here nor there, and I could gaf less about it.  The ag industry is heavily subsidized already, and is essential if you want the cant get rights to eat. 

Buy I guess you only consider the additional subsidization the issue, and definitely not because of whose policy it was. 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

If it weren't so gross it would be really funny how much this pisses you off.

It really is.  The way our policies unfairly treat people across the country, due solely to their economic situation.  A system of punishments, and rewards,  completely unequally taken and distributed.  It's disgusting.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

2 minutes ago, Bravo said:

I got an idea! Let's shutdown the economy then open it back up and tout the huge gains it made getting back to where it was. 

psst: the economy was never shut down. that's fucking impossible

if TFG had not downplayed the virus for his own personal gain we'd be having a very different conversation today - likely talking about how we avoided catastrophe and were the world's model for how to handle such an event. instead, we're a laughing stock and much of the rest of the world pities us. Remember when America used to lead? I don't, because I've only read  about it textbooks. But boy would it be great to get back there. People like you prevent that from happening. why do you hate progress?

[F250 28,775]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

The increase is neither here nor there, and I could gaf less about it.  The ag industry is heavily subsidized already, and is essential if you want the cant get rights to eat. 

Buy I guess you only consider the additional subsidization the issue, and definitely not because of whose policy it was. 

The increase was enormous and unnecessary and had zero to do with the existing agriculture policies. I started a thread on it a few years ago and it wasn't a shock when Trump and the R congress had to start throwing billions of dollars at the problem to put out a fire they started.

The reason we are talking about it now in this thread is to demonstrate that Republican fiscal responsibility is a farce.

As you said "you don't give a fuck." That is my point.

 

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

3 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Nonsense. The entire world shutdown. There was no stopping the virus. It wasn't a US phenomenon. 

Bullshit. If that were true then there would have been no food. No electricity. No internet. No nothing. I worked the whole time - I just did it at home instead of my office. I did my fucking part. Did you? You really should analyze the information you use to base your opinions on a lot better. Ask more questions. Don't just take shit at face value.

[fattyflattie 4,639]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

The reason we are talking about it now in this thread is to demonstrate that Republican fiscal responsibility is a farce.

Lol.  Yes, the Democratic party.  Beacon of fiscal responsibility.  

[elfenix 34,240]

Just now, fattyflattie said:

Lol.  Yes, the Democratic party.  Beacon of fiscal responsibility.  

paygo says hi

[fuggled 576]

2 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Yes.  We all pay sales tax.  We all pay govt. fees.  I get to write a monthly property tax check larger than the entire months rent in the apartments zoned to the same fucking school.  And then a surprisingly low sect of our population get HEAVILY taxed even further.  For the same or in many times considerably less take?  Nahfuckthat.gif 

 

Out of curiosity, have you ever looked at what the actual aggregate tax rates are?  Everyone is paying more than 20% towards taxes of some kind.  We clearly have a progressive tax policy, but the range really isn't that dramatic.  And I doubt the guy making $16K per year but paying $3200 in taxes feels like he's freeloading.

[F250 28,775]

5 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Lol.  Yes, the Democratic party.  Beacon of fiscal responsibility.  

So your stance is you don't give a fuck about fiscal responsibility if Republicans are in charge?

[fattyflattie 4,639]

Daycare is infrastructure.  

Hearing benefits are infrastructure.  

Home health care salaries are infrastructure. 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

1 minute ago, F250 said:

So your stance is you don't give a fuck about fiscal responsibility if Republicans are in charge?

I care about it all the time, but fuck, no one does anymore.  I'm not certain any politician ever did.   Be it war or welfare, everyone cant wait to trip over their dick to spend money.  I guess at least some types of spending will support the economy and the investment class (silver lining?)

[elfenix 34,240]

3 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Daycare is infrastructure.  

Hearing benefits are infrastructure.  

Home health care salaries are infrastructure. 

"H.R.3684 - Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act"

also:

 

[Brisketexan 105,139]

30 minutes ago, Bravo said:

I got an idea! Let's 1) shutdown the economy then open it back up and tout the huge gains it made getting back to where it was. Let's also ignore 2) the largest increase in inflation in 40 yrs. 

I live in a world where people don't see the direct connection between 1) and 2).  Holy fuck.

You shut down huge sectors of the economy, creating both shortages of manufactured goods, and skewed (both in volume and timing) demand...and THEN restart that economy (but in a sporadic and chaotic way, depending on both timing and regional variations of waves of the pandemic).....and you don't expect there to be gaps between supply and demand, and/or increases in demand alone, which are the drivers of inflation?

21 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Nonsense. The entire world shutdown. There was no stopping the virus. It wasn't a US phenomenon. 

No.  Fucking.  Shit.

It's why the entire fucking world is facing increased inflation.  Biden doesn't have shit to do with inflation increasing in France, Germany, Vietnam, etc. etc.  Because of EXACTLY what you said.  This is almost entirely a global economy doing what a global economy does when facing such large and erratic input changes.

Edited January 27, 2022 by Brisketexan

[fattyflattie 4,639]

9 minutes ago, fuggled said:

 

Out of curiosity, have you ever looked at what the actual aggregate tax rates are?  Everyone is paying more than 20% towards taxes of some kind.  We clearly have a progressive tax policy, but the range really isn't that dramatic.  And I doubt the guy making $16K per year but paying $3200 in taxes feels like he's freeloading.

You might want to play with this calculator,

https://us.icalculator.info/tax-calculator/annual/2022.html

$305 in income tax.  

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,101]

1 minute ago, Brisketexan said:

I live in a world where people don't see the direct connection between 1) and 2).  Holy fuck.

You shut down huge sectors of the economy, creating both shortages of manufactured goods, and skewed (both in volume and timing) demand...and THEN restart that economy (but in a sporadic and chaotic way, depending on both timing and regional variations of waves of the pandemic).....and you don't expect there to be gaps between supply and demand, and/or increases in demand alone, that are the drivers of inflation?

No.  Fucking.  Shit.

It's why the entire fucking world is facing increased inflation.  Biden doesn't have shit to do with inflation increasing in France, Germany, Vietnam, etc. etc.  Because of EXACTLY what you said.  This is almost entirely a global economy doing what a global economy does when facing such large and erratic input changes.

Brisket, you aren't dealing with the sharpest tool in the shed when you are responding to Bravo.

[wildcat09 29,354]

9 minutes ago, fuggled said:

 

Out of curiosity, have you ever looked at what the actual aggregate tax rates are?  Everyone is paying more than 20% towards taxes of some kind.  We clearly have a progressive tax policy, but the range really isn't that dramatic.  And I doubt the guy making $16K per year but paying $3200 in taxes feels like he's freeloading.

That's also still just a small view of the bigger picture.

[Neonmoon 38,129]

7 minutes ago, F250 said:

So your stance is you don't give a fuck about fiscal responsibility if Republicans are in charge?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19,101]

Just now, fattyflattie said:

You might want to play with this calculator,

https://us.icalculator.info/tax-calculator/annual/2022.html

$305 in income tax.  

The "income tax" isn't the only tax on income people pay.  We have told you this before.  I am not sure why you are being an idiot and ignoring that.

[wildcat09 29,354]

9 minutes ago, F250 said:

So your stance is you don't give a fuck about fiscal responsibility if Republicans are in charge?

His stance is that all tax dollars he pays should go to keeping poor people far away from him and the children of poor people in much shittier schools than his kids go to.

It's literally segregation. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

You might want to play with this calculator,

https://us.icalculator.info/tax-calculator/annual/2022.html

$305 in income tax.  

you might want to notice that graph is not just talking about income tax

[elfenix 34,240]

7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I care about it all the time, but fuck, no one does anymore. 

this is just a lie you have to tell yourself in order to keep pulling that R lever.

 

7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

I guess at least some types of spending will support the economy and the investment class (silver lining?)

it's just a complete coincidence that 614 of the world's 2095 billionaires are in the US and 9 of 10 of the world's hectobillionares are americans

--fatty, probably

[wildcat09 29,354]

5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I live in a world where people don't see the direct connection between 1) and 2).  Holy fuck.

You shut down huge sectors of the economy, creating both shortages of manufactured goods, and skewed (both in volume and timing) demand...and THEN restart that economy (but in a sporadic and chaotic way, depending on both timing and regional variations of waves of the pandemic).....and you don't expect there to be gaps between supply and demand, and/or increases in demand alone, which are the drivers of inflation?

No.  Fucking.  Shit.

It's why the entire fucking world is facing increased inflation.  Biden doesn't have shit to do with inflation increasing in France, Germany, Vietnam, etc. etc.  Because of EXACTLY what you said.  This is almost entirely a global economy doing what a global economy does when facing such large and erratic input changes.

This is like when the entire right blamed the global 2008 real estate collapse on black Americans buying homes.

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,559]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I live in a world where people don't see the direct connection between 1) and 2).  Holy fuck.

You shut down huge sectors of the economy, creating both shortages of manufactured goods, and skewed (both in volume and timing) demand...and THEN restart that economy (but in a sporadic and chaotic way, depending on both timing and regional variations of waves of the pandemic).....and you don't expect there to be gaps between supply and demand, and/or increases in demand alone, which are the drivers of inflation?

No.  Fucking.  Shit.

It's why the entire fucking world is facing increased inflation.  Biden doesn't have shit to do with inflation increasing in France, Germany, Vietnam, etc. etc.  Because of EXACTLY what you said.  This is almost entirely a global economy doing what a global economy does when facing such large and erratic input changes.

You really need to look at the other side of this equation.  It's a lot harder to learn economic theories and how they work in the real world as opposed to just saying it's all Biden's fault. 

[fattyflattie 4,639]

7 minutes ago, elfenix said:

it's just a complete coincidence that 614 of the world's 2095 billionaires are in the US and 9 of 10 of the world's hectobillionares are americans

Why would that be.  We are the greatest country on earth.  You really have to fuck up to not make it here. 

7 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

you might want to notice that graph is not just talking about income tax

Uh, yeah.  Maybe you can explain to me which other taxes get refunded to some, but not others, depending ironically enough, on your lack of input?

8 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

The "income tax" isn't the only tax on income people pay.  We have told you this before.  I am not sure why you are being an idiot and ignoring that.

I'm not ignoring it.  It's the most discriminatory one.  I don't pay less sales tax than the guy next to me because he worth 20x as much.  We pay in the same, for the same service, otherwise known as "fair". 

Edited January 27, 2022 by fattyflattie

[Brisketexan 105,139]

Just now, Bravo said:

I never said inflation isnt caused a lot by the world coming back online. 

Then you might oughta share that with everyone else around here bitching about Biden and inflation.  Including you, I am 99% certain, in other posts by you absolutely putting blame on Biden.

[Willfully Horn 8,017]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

 

I'm not ignoring it.  It's the discriminatory one.  I don't pay less sales tax than the guy next to me because he worth 20x as much.  We pay in the same, for the same service, otherwise known as "fair". 

You ought reread the New Testament, as you missed something important, and that informs folks who disagree with your take on this.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

4 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Why would that be.  We are the greatest country on earth.  You really have to fuck up to not make it here. 

Serious question and it's ok if you want to pm me the answer to save yourself from embarrassment: have you ever been out of the country before? and not just over the border to mexico. but to a country like Sweden, Austria, Germany, anything like that?

[wildcat09 29,354]

If fatty saw a poor person on fire, how quickly would he rush over to pour more gasoline on him or her?

I I don't think I've ever encountered someone with more disdain for the less fortunate outside of College Station. 

[Neonmoon 38,129]

Reading the back and forth (well, the quoted parts because reasons)

It's clear to me that it all boils down to hate. Republicans hate other people. They hate they have to pay property taxes that might benefit some fucking poor person. Even when presented with evidence that poor people actually do pay taxes, a good amount for their income level, even when presented with evidence that we all pay our share for the roads we use, the military that protects us, the IP laws that protect their businesses. They don't care. They're spoiled. Fuck other people. They don't want to pay money out of their pocket. They want the benefits of our society with none of the costs. The blame others for the costs. Poor people use resources, not me. Immigrants use resources, not me. It's one big fucking lie they tell themselves so they don't have to face the simple truth. That they're a selfish piece of shit. 

I'm tired of pretending it's about anything else. 
 

 

 

[Beantown Express 2.0 6,559]

1 minute ago, Bravo said:

Or look at this massive yr. Thanks Biden! 

I didn't argue that the growth was because of Biden either now did I?  The president really doesn't affect the economy all that much either way unless they do something really stupid, like say, putting tariffs on other countries.  I stand by what I said, that most people will blame Biden for the inflation or gas prices instead of learning how the world economy works and how some of this isn't really his fault.  

[elfenix 34,240]

11 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Why would that be.  We are the greatest country on earth.  You really have to fuck up to not make it here. 

you just can't wrap your head around how a system designed and set up to generate million and billionaires benefits million and billionaires?

[jimmyjazz 45,952]

4 minutes ago, Bravo said:

He hasn't helped.

Prove it.

 

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Also, share it your peeps who just several posts up were celebrating this incredible GDP yr.

You are one humorless dude.

 

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He added onto fiscal policy dumping more $ into the economy. Him and Trump dumped trillions into it. A lot of it with little oversight and unnecessary. Wasted. Then the unemployment policy paying people to stay home way too long exacerbated it. 

I must be high, I don't remember you on this board bitching about Trump's policy during the pandemic.

[washparkhorn 9,939]

1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

 

I must be high, I don't remember you on this board bitching about Trump's policy during the pandemic.

Looking at his profile indicates he first posted on November 11, 2021. Whose owns the Bravo sock?  GRhorn?

[Brisketexan 105,139]

2 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Prove it.

 

You are one humorless dude.

 

I must be high, I don't remember you on this board bitching about Trump's policy during the pandemic.

To each of those three.....

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

4 minutes ago, washparkhorn said:

Looking at his profile indicates he first posted on November 11, 2021. Whose owns the Bravo sock?  GRhorn?

that's been my guess for a while

[workswithseed 2,106]

1 hour ago, Bama Chick said:

If I have to pay for healthcare for everyone, I'll just make sure that Viagra is banned and flaccid penises stay flaccid. The state takes control of healthcare, I better control the state. 

Okay. I'm not the one wanting to control people's live with government, but if it's fully controlled by the government, I might as well say how I want it controlled. 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

42 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I live in a world where people don't see the direct connection between 1) and 2).  Holy fuck.

You shut down huge sectors of the economy, creating both shortages of manufactured goods, and skewed (both in volume and timing) demand...and THEN restart that economy (but in a sporadic and chaotic way, depending on both timing and regional variations of waves of the pandemic).....and you don't expect there to be gaps between supply and demand, and/or increases in demand alone, which are the drivers of inflation?

No.  Fucking.  Shit.

It's why the entire fucking world is facing increased inflation.  Biden doesn't have shit to do with inflation increasing in France, Germany, Vietnam, etc. etc.  Because of EXACTLY what you said.  This is almost entirely a global economy doing what a global economy does when facing such large and erratic input changes.

Yes there are supply chain issue , but we also overstimulated the economy fiscally.

 

Also lol at you acting like these things were self evident. Almost all the talking heads and politicians said it was no big deal, then it was transitory, now it was all obvious. Okie dokie. Should I pull up Biden’s quotes on inflation? He’s still claiming the next massive spending bill will lower inflation. Dumbass 

Edited January 27, 2022 by Immaculate Vibes

[Longhorn_Fan68 33,870]

4 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

Yes there are supply chain issue , but we also overstimulated the economy fiscally 

you cannot convince me that you're not a bot that was forced to watch thousands of hours of fox news and now randomly generates words and phrases based on that experience.