Joe Biden 2022: Enter Dark Brandon

[Post Oak 20182]

1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

 

this mother fucker can die in a fire.

[Brisketexan 104465]

2 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Lindsay Graham can burn in hell too.  Who's next up to declare their allegiance to a treasonous movement to decapitate and overthrow the United States government?  Bring them on.  I want all the traitors to clearly and boldly state their allegiance as Lindsay has.

[The Royal We 3059]

No shit, what a cunt.  We all remember what you said immediately after January 6.

[Red Five 40593]

Joe Biden politicized 1/6. I've seen it all now.

[Leeroy Jenkins 2377]

The growing bitterness in the partisan divide is the biggest threat to democracy. If you feel continuing to stoke the fires helps reduce that go for it.
All those involved in Jan 6 events should fully be investigated and prosecuted as possible, but continuing to throw near half the country under the bus with those involved (yeah their not all the same) isn't going to get you where you think it is. That applies to both sides of the aisle.
It's fringe - us - them - other fringe.... being framed as an us - them narrative.

Fuck off. You can divide my ass cheeks before you kiss it.

Keep trying to minimize what happened a year ago and the real reason it did. I could have never imagined in my entire life something like Jan 6th happening.

[Sawbonz 27375]

59 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

The growing bitterness in the partisan divide is the biggest threat to democracy. 

Is that the biggest threat?

 

Or is it claiming in the months leading up to the election that there will be widespread voter fraud. And then after losing the election, which even the head of your DOJ says went off with no evidence of widespread voter fraud, trying to use procedural tactics and the courts to overturn the will of the people? And when that fails calling for and carrying out a violent attack on the literal halls of our republic? Might those things be a bigger risk to democracy?  I just don’t know 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

12 minutes ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

Alright... I've opened a can of worms and will step out...for the record: republican party yeah, majority of votes.  Didn't vote for Trump either election, voted for Biden in 2020.

Just glad no one is bitter. Sometimes I forget certain areas should be off limits for me... I'll exit stage right now...

Prior to exiting, I'd like to discuss some things with you. You stated your view on the partisanship that exists and recognize that it does exist. You also mention that you support investigating and prosecuting those were involved in the January 6th events that were illegal actions (i.e. entering the bldg, assault, etc). Lastly, you state that you voted for Biden, or at least, not for Trump, correct?

So, why? Why did you vote that way? What did you see that made you vote one way and not the other? And, knowing that the person who lost and the people who enabled January 6th events to occur are still in powerful positions within their party, do you believe that when persons on this site and in the media and in the military and scholars who study global autocracy and the rise of strongmen believe it ought to still be the center of attention that they are truly sowing division and throwing  many Americans 'under the bus'?

If a goodly percentage of one party only receives information from algorithms designed to reinforce untruths, spread propaganda and uncertainty, and from sources that have an interest in promoting falsehoods, is it a disservice to keep reinforcing the truths and to continue to advocate for transparency? If those party leaders are beholden to spreading those falsehoods due to the loss of stature, money, and power they will face, why would another group reminding them of the oath THEY ALL TOOK to represent more than just ONE side and the COUNTRY'S CONSTITUTION as a whole be wrong? When the powerful are still in power (and having a pretty real lock on the Senate and SCOTUS is exactly that) and are placing partisan officials in positions where election tallies and certification should explicitly be nonpartisan, should the topic of elections be off limits? What do you do to support voter rights? To support nonpartisan election counts? To fucking enforce the Federal Election Commission rules and regulations that were tossed aside for the last four years?

This country is less than two years away from what will likely be either a turning away or a turning toward. I hope we turn toward the light. The transparency, the freedom that recognizing our sins as individuals and a country and vowing to do better--attempts we have made in the past which have been strivings toward and have enabled us to continue to be that beacon. Being afraid to look each other and see reality should not be something to turn away from--courage over fear is our greatest asset, unless inwardly we know our own flaws and those of our nation are too cowardly to face them.

[JimmyJames 12271]

I’m a big fan of the “I didn’t vote for Trump post but here’s why both sides are at fault for whatever crap the republicans did this time.”
 

Always good for a laugh and shows up here like clockwork. You can set your watch to it. Always with a final farewell of “I tried to be reasonable in the CR but y’all are too mean.”

[Gourmand 7774]

 

Lifelong lefties have experienced decades worth of right-wing assholes slandering the political opposition with sleazy racist, homophobic, misogynistic, xenophobic, jingoistic garbage that sought to consolidate power within the GOP by running on culture war divisiveness. This is not new, this was going on during the racist dog-whistling Reagan administration/campaigns (see: states rights, Willie Norton, welfare queens etc) where that side weaponized the insult culture through people like Lee Atwater, Karl Rove, Newt Gingrich, Rush Limbaugh, all of it culminating in the rise of Trumpism and an armed insurrection on our nation's Capitol with the goal of preventing the defeat of a disgraced POTUS. And this Donkey mfer thinks the threat to democracy is there aren't enough Rodney Kings????

The threat isn't just from the right-wing crazy reality-deniers. The threat is from lazy brains like Donkey who believe in simplistic fairy-tales about politics where "getting along and playing nice" are goals in and of themselves, bipartisan agreement is the pinnacle of virtuosity, political disagreement is to be avoided at all costs, the self-described independent voters are the key demographic, and all issues cannot have an objective right/wrong but must be always split perfectly in half so "both sides" are equally represented, regardless of how abhorrent one side may be. 

 

 

[Foosters 17691]

2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Is that the biggest threat?

 

Or is it claiming in the months leading up to the election that there will be widespread voter fraud. And then after losing the election, which even the head of your DOJ says went off with no evidence of widespread voter fraud, trying to use procedural tactics and the courts to overturn the will of the people? And when that fails calling for and carrying out a violent attack on the literal halls of our republic? Might those things be a bigger risk to democracy?  I just don’t know 

Look. They tried a coup and failed. No reason to keep bringing it up. Everybody murders, steals from you, steals from me, does a coup.

[henrygandorf 29174]

“why are we still talking about covid”, says the unvaccinated guy standing in a fuck fauci jersey with his unvaccinated family and friends, not wearing masks at a super-spreader event, while forwarding youtube conspiracy videos about horse dewormer paste and virus origins, bitching that facebook isn’t loading quick enough. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

Just now, Foosters said:

Look. They tried a coup and failed. No reason to keep bringing it up. Everybody murders, steals from you, steals from me, does a coup.

And to paraphrase that venerable sage, Susan Collins of the Furrowed Brow: even Hitler learned his lesson.

No one thought to ask her exactly what lesson he learned, but boy oh boy, he sure showed us didn't he?

[Sawbonz 27375]

3 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Look. They tried a coup and failed. No reason to keep bringing it up. Everybody murders, steals from you, steals from me, does a coup.

They didn’t come here to play electoral college

[HornPhD 1361]

28 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

What a cunt

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

50 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

 

I ran across something earlier this week that mentioned Graham playing golf with Trump this week, so this is par for the course. (groan).

[JimmyJames 12271]

19 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I ran across something earlier this week that mentioned Graham playing golf with Trump this week, so this is par for the course. (groan).

Trump needed to remind Lindsey what gets revealed if he doesn’t toe the line. 

[shakahorn 1625]

20 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Trump needed to remind Lindsey what gets revealed if he doesn’t toe the line. 

She gave it away by hitting from the red tees.

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

15 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Trump needed to remind Lindsey what gets revealed if he doesn’t toe the line. 

Well, that may be. But Graham is also on the Subcommittee for Criminal Justice and Counterterrorism and thus may be able to feed information to the former guy that may be pertinent to his interests. While it is not the same as the committee investigating the insurrection, that subcommittee does provide oversight of the DOJ's Criminal Division and in addition, there is an executive session coming next week discussing the domestic terrorism threat. 

I don't think the former President has a long attention span, but he obviously pays attention to useful tidbits, and Graham is a remora sucking up useful info and regurgitating it back. Likewise, he apparently goes out and shills because it's in his interest to do so.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

Only people who are die hard on the left care about 1/6.  The last round of elections taught us this.  As will the next round.

[wildcat09 29187]

The elections that happened before 1/6 taught us that nobody cares about 1/6?

[Johnny Sack 8397]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The elections that happened before 1/6 taught us that nobody cares about 1/6?

We had elections in November 2021.  They did not go well for Democrats.  Virginia dems tried to play 1/6 and Trump repeatedly.  Did not work.  No one but hard core democrats give a shit.  

[SmokeyTheBear 5562]

13 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Only people who are die hard on the left care about 1/6.  The last round of elections taught us this.  As will the next round.

Says someone who is a fervent believer in law and order. 

[Red Five 40593]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

  No one but hard core democrats give a shit. 

Seems like a problem, doesn't it?

[JimmyJames 12271]

24 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Only people who are die hard on the left care about 1/6.  The last round of elections taught us this.  As will the next round.

No the only people who care about 1/6 are non scumbags. We all know that doesn’t apply to you and your ilk. 

[hobbes2702 12771]

26 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Only people who are die hard on the left care about 1/6.  The last round of elections taught us this.  As will the next round.

Tell us you support treason without telling us you support treason.

[JimmyJames 12271]

25 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Only people who are die hard on the left care about 1/6.  The last round of elections taught us this.  As will the next round.

Johnny sack once again showing his ass. Thinks the attack on the capitol was done by patriots.

I wish I was surprised but I’m not. He’s the embodiment of the worst of America. I appreciate him showing us how bad America can actually be. 

[Sawbonz 27375]

14 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

We had elections in November 2021.  They did not go well for Democrats.  Virginia dems tried to play 1/6 and Trump repeatedly.  Did not work.  No one but hard core democrats give a shit.  

They ran terry macaulif. Had jack shit to do with 1/6

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

1 minute ago, Sawbonz said:

They ran terry macaulif. Had jack shit to do with 1/6

That and they brought in a handful of Republican leaders and a former Trump admin spokesperson to ramp up the CRT outrage in Loudon county (a former stronghold) at their meetings, taped the encounters and ran to Fox to broadcast. So there was a solid strategy there.

[Chuckie Finster 22583]

30 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

Only people who are die hard on the left care about 1/6.  The last round of elections taught us this.  As will the next round.

Even with the amnesia that you and your klan are showing, "die hard on the left" apparently still approximates 78% of the country.  

However, since March, there has been a decline in the share of the public saying it is important that those who broke into the Capitol be prosecuted (from 87% to 78%), with the change coming almost entirely among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/09/28/declining-share-of-republicans-say-it-is-important-to-prosecute-jan-6-rioters/

[Sawbonz 27375]

2 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

That and they brought in a handful of Republican leaders and a former Trump admin spokesperson to ramp up the CRT outrage in Loudon county (a former stronghold) at their meetings, taped the encounters and ran to Fox to broadcast. So there was a solid strategy there.

And that was only an option because of the ham fisted way macauliff initially responded to the issue gave them that avenue of attack

[henrygandorf 29174]

why care about real-life things like democracy if it doesn’t affect small-sample-sized, team-first politics in the short term?

[Biff Tannen 45477]

7 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Even with the amnesia that you and your klan are showing, "die hard on the left" apparently still approximates 78% of the country.  

However, since March, there has been a decline in the share of the public saying it is important that those who broke into the Capitol be prosecuted (from 87% to 78%), with the change coming almost entirely among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. 

https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/09/28/declining-share-of-republicans-say-it-is-important-to-prosecute-jan-6-rioters/

This is actually very important.  The Sacks of the world don't understand they are in the massive minority.  They believe they are actually the beating pulse of Americans overall.  That, or they do know this and are scared as shit and therefore trying to cheat their way to minority rule.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

I mean keep calling it 9-11 and Pearl Harbor.  It's a winning strategy.

Anyone been charged with treason yet?

[The Royal We 3059]

Are you a professional cunt, or just a gifted amateur?

[4th&Five 41457]

Insurrection's mean nothing.  We need to focus on important issues like bathroom bills and banning books. USA!!!!!

[Brisketexan 104465]

Imagine how the Johnny Sacks of the world would be talking about 1/6 if the attackers had done the exact same thing, except they were Muslim extremists.

Now realize that the reason that they would talk about it totally differently is because they actually do NOT have a problem with extremist terrorist violence intent on forcing the extremists' political will on others......they only have a problem with it if they disagree with the cause behind it.

Political extremist violence is a-ok.....so long as it's their team committing it.  Etch that into your brain.  Understand that this is the sole governing tenet of the modern GQP and its supporters.  Nothing else they say or do matters.

[Red Five 40593]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Imagine how the Johnny Sacks of the world would be talking about 1/6 if the attackers had done the exact same thing, except they were Muslim extremists.

I was just thinking this. Or if a huge army of dems sacked the capitol in 2016 to try to get the election overturned and Hillary in as potus. 

[hobbes2702 12771]

24 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I mean keep calling it 9-11 and Pearl Harbor.  It's a winning strategy.

Anyone been charged with treason yet?

Was 1/6 a terrorist attack? Was it a coup?

[jimmyjazz 45513]

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I was just thinking this. Or if a huge army of dems sacked the capitol in 2016 to try to get the election overturned and Hillary in as potus. 

That was the thrust of Karl Rove's op-ed.

Well, that and a complete whitewashing of his own despicable past.  But some of the former, too.

[aggie08 21380]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Only people who are die hard on the left care about 1/6.

Take two whole seconds to think about what saying this proudly says about you.

[BrickHorn 18176]

4 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

I had a similar reaction when I served on the jury in a murder trial. The prosecutor kept implying that the accused murderer committed the murder. Why was he singled out, just because he was the only one there and there was a recording of him repeatedly stabbing the victim? It was brazenly divisive.

[Satchel 6908]

3 hours ago, Foosters said:

Look. They tried a coup and failed. No reason to keep bringing it up. Everybody murders, steals from you, steals from me, does a coup.

We must keep bringing it up because there’s hope in history. Don’t buy into the right wing “CRT syndrome” (if you don’t discuss or acknowledge it, it will go away)

[Chuckie Finster 22583]

33 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

I mean keep calling it 9-11 and Pearl Harbor.  It's a winning strategy.

Do you think Gaetz and MTG have the best political instincts in your party?  They are the only two acting like they agree with your stance here.

[jimmyjazz 45513]

6 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

I had a similar reaction when I served on the jury in a murder trial. The prosecutor kept implying that the accused murderer committed the murder. Why was he singled out, just because he was the only one there and there was a recording of him repeatedly stabbing the victim? It was brazenly divisive.

Fucking lawyers.

[DDD Dad 14167]

Why y'all engage with Sack when he's trolling is beyond me.

[Red Five 40593]

6 minutes ago, Satchel said:

We must keep bringing it up because there’s hope in history. Don’t buy into the right wing “CRT syndrome” (if you don’t discuss or acknowledge it, it will go away)

Whoosh my man. Whoosh.

[Foosters 17691]

5 minutes ago, Satchel said:

We must keep bringing it up because there’s hope in history. Don’t buy into the right wing “CRT syndrome” (if you don’t discuss or acknowledge it, it will go away)

I was making a sarcastic reference to Tyrell Pryor's famous thoughts on Mike Vick. Calibrate your meter as you see fit.

Quote

“Not everybody’s the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever. I think that people need a second chance, and I’ve always looked up to Mike Vick, and I always will.”

 

[Tom 2959]

I only hope that when Lindsey Graham finally kicks the bucket, John McCain is waiting on the other side with a swift kick in the ass.

[Brisketexan 104465]

3 minutes ago, Tom said:

I only hope that when Lindsey Graham finally kicks the bucket, John McCain is waiting on the other side with a swift kick in the ass.

In the ass?  Lindsay will enjoy that way too much.

[Gourmand 7774]

21 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I was just thinking this. Or if a huge army of dems sacked the capitol in 2016 to try to get the election overturned and Hillary in as potus. 

Yeah I mean many of us have been making the same argument since 2000. These crazy right-wing lunatic radicals went insurrectionist on our federal government building in the aftermath of an election their guy legitimately lost in both the electoral college AND the popular vote.

Democrats have seen not one but TWO presidential candidates denied the executive branch despite winning the popular vote by millions and you didn't see armed crazy leftists overtaking the US Capitol in lawless violence and destruction.