Joe Biden 2022: Enter Dark Brandon

[JimmyJames 12271]

Sack is a lawyer so he of course qualified his bullshit statement with “relevant” politicians which allows him to weasel out of any contradiction.

In other words he’s as full of shit as always.

[Incredulity 11541]

1 hour ago, Foosters said:

You've been asked by 3 different posters to back this up. 

You really think it makes a difference?

[jimmyjazz 45538]

5 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

You really think it makes a difference?

That's up to you.

[Bullneck 18983]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
-- President Bill Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing.  He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.""Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001    

"I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries.  I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."
-- Sen. John Edwards (D, NC) Feb. 24, 2002

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.   We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."   "
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated.  He must be disarmed.  We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D, MA) Sep. 27, 2002

"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein.  He is a brutal man.  A ruthless man.  A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.  He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.  He's a bad guy.  The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."
-- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
-- Senator John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction.  It has refused to take those steps.  That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
-- Sen. Harry Reid (D. NV) Oct. 9, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities.  I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein.  ...  Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein.  Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."  
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)

I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration.  And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction.  What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis.  It cannot happen.  We have to prevent it from happening. 
-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MT) Nov. 2, 2003
 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraqi_chemical_weapons_program#:~:text=President Saddam Hussein (1937–2006,in the south in 1991.

[JimmyJames 12271]

4 hours ago, mchookem said:

it's fine, i'll handle it...

congratulations Joe Biden on having the best economy in the history of economies!

It worked! They came calling of course. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

All the relevant Democrat politicians back then also said Iraq had WMDs.

Hey how about that jobs report today eh? Quite the stuff!

[JimmyJames 12271]

6 hours ago, elfenix said:

in table form from reddit:

Let’s have another look at it! Someone quote me so the sack can see it again and give us his thoughts! Or not!

[gmr548 16481]

You really think it makes a difference?

lmao what a bitch

[4doorsMoreWhores 107]

1 hour ago, Johnny Sack said:

Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
-- President Bill Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing.  He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.""Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001    

"I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries.  I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."
-- Sen. John Edwards (D, NC) Feb. 24, 2002

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.   We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."   "
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated.  He must be disarmed.  We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D, MA) Sep. 27, 2002

"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein.  He is a brutal man.  A ruthless man.  A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.  He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.  He's a bad guy.  The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."
-- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
-- Senator John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction.  It has refused to take those steps.  That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
-- Sen. Harry Reid (D. NV) Oct. 9, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities.  I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein.  ...  Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein.  Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."  
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)

I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration.  And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction.  What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis.  It cannot happen.  We have to prevent it from happening. 
-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MT) Nov. 2, 2003
 

But...but TRUMP!!!

[aggie08 21414]

1 hour ago, Incredulity said:

You really think it makes a difference?

Translation: I completely fabricated some absolute bullshit, but I'm too big of a pussy to just own it, so I'll play it off like the meanies in the cloak room wouldn't listen anyway so what's the point.

[Incredulity 11541]

Just now, aggie08 said:

Translation: I completely fabricated some absolute bullshit, but I'm too big of a pussy to just own it, so I'll play it off like the meanies in the cloak room wouldn't listen anyway so what's the point.

Read the posts fuckwit.

all the way back to Joe nuking the Afghan family subsequent to his Waterloo

[aggie08 21414]

7 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Read the posts fuckwit.

all the way back to Joe nuking the Afghan family subsequent to his Waterloo

These are the only two that I could find:

On 2/3/2022 at 11:32 AM, 'stache said:

So we killed an ISIS leader yesterday. Tucker and Co. are already pro Putin, my guess is they'll be pro ISIS by the end of the day.

 

20 hours ago, MirrOlure said:

We killed 13 civilians including 6 children too. But not as bad as when we “ooopsed” and killed an entire innocent family a few months ago.

So we’re doing better, and Joe got his “Presidential moment” press conference and ops room photo. So there’s that.

Wait, you're of the opinion that these two posts are pro drone strikes? Oh my god, dude, I'm so sorry. I didn't realize that you were illiterate.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

I guess this is what qualifies as press conference worthy in the ideal liberal metropolis. 
 

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

Read the posts!!!

[Biff Tannen 45491]

1 hour ago, 4doorsMoreWhores said:

But...but TRUMP!!!

Wait.  Was one of the arguments against dotard was that he was a war mongerer?

 

[Gourmand 7774]

2 hours ago, JimmyJames said:

Sack is a lawyer so he of course qualified his bullshit statement with “relevant” politicians which allows him to weasel out of any contradiction.

In other words he’s as full of shit as always.

Even so, I omitted one of the most high-profile Democratic politicians to voice of opposition to the Iraq War at that time....Howard Dean. 

 

 

Edited February 5, 2022 by Gourmand

[We’reTexas 1468]

18 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

I guess this is what qualifies as press conference worthy in the ideal liberal metropolis. 
 

 

I mean yeah it was weird they had a press conference but Powell’s bathroom closed after 9/11 and they’ve been trying to refurnish BART to boost the anemic ridership, but go ahead and keep posting shit you see in Tucker that you know nothing about for self-satisfying points. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

3 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

Even so, I omitted one of the most high-profiles Democratic politician to voice of opposition to the Iraq War at that time....Howard Dean. 

 

 

A sin for which he was then almost immediately severely punished by the so called mainstream liberal media. Just like Biden with Afghanistan. You can actually set your watch to it.

[JimmyJames 12271]

Almost anyone who opposes the war machine, usually dems but even sometimes some republicans, is almost immediately attacked by both sides of the media. I wonder why that is?

[Anastasis 23390]

12 minutes ago, JimmyJames said:

Almost anyone who opposes the war machine, usually dems but even sometimes some republicans, is almost immediately attacked by both sides of the media. I wonder why that is?

These motherfucking cruise missiles don't sell themselves alright.

Amazing how little real estate SA doing work on Sanaa recently getting.  

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

These motherfucking cruise missiles don't sell themselves alright.

Amazing how little real estate SA doing work on Sanaa recently getting.  

I hate it when I agree with you but nah, not really. 
 

It’s always about the money. Always. Litigation with KBR opened my eyes completely. 

[gmr548 16481]

Read the posts fuckwit.
all the way back to Joe nuking the Afghan family subsequent to his Waterloo

[gmr548 16481]

Read the posts!!!

Watch the tape!!!

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

Has Joe shut down the virus yet?

[JimmyJames 12271]

1 hour ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

Has Joe shut down the virus yet?

Nope. By Easter. 

[tchookem 3900]

Nope. By Easter. 

If only people would stop getting tested... we'd have zero cases.

[Biff Tannen 45491]

I heard two weeks and it would magically disappear.  That's what I'm putting all my money on.  I know people that say this and it seems super realistic.  I'm sure we have nothing to worry about.  If this doesn't happen, I will kill myself and all of my friends that believe the same thing*

*It would have been awesome if this had happened

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

Has Joe shut down the virus like he promised or have more people died from Rona since he assumed office?

[Biff Tannen 45491]

2 minutes ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

Has Joe shut down the virus like he promised or have more people died from Rona since he assumed office?

You're a horrible troll.

[Mango4 189]

I heard two weeks and it would magically disappear.  That's what I'm putting all my money on.  I know people that say this and it seems super realistic.  I'm sure we have nothing to worry about.  If this doesn't happen, I will kill myself and all of my friends that believe the same thing*
*It would have been awesome if this had happened

Drink some bleach. It should help

[elfenix 34169]

9 hours ago, Johnny Sack said:

Saddam Hussein has spent the better part of this decade and much of his nation's wealth not on providing for the Iraqi people but on developing nuclear, chemical, and biological weapons and the missiles to deliver them."
-- President Bill Clinton (State of the Union Address), Jan. 27, 1998

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"No one has done what Saddam Hussein has done, or is thinking of doing.  He is producing weapons of mass destruction, and he is qualitatively and quantitatively different from other dictators.""Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001    

"I mean, we have three different countries that, while they all present serious problems for the United States -- they're dictatorships, they're involved in the development and proliferation of weapons of mass destruction -- you know, the most imminent, clear and present threat to our country is not the same from those three countries.  I think Iraq is the most serious and imminent threat to our country."
-- Sen. John Edwards (D, NC) Feb. 24, 2002

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power.   We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."   "
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"There is no doubt that Saddam Hussein's regime is a serious danger, that he is a tyrant, and that his pursuit of lethal weapons of mass destruction cannot be tolerated.  He must be disarmed.  We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Edward Kennedy (D, MA) Sep. 27, 2002

"Now let me be clear -- I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein.  He is a brutal man.  A ruthless man.  A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.  He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.  He's a bad guy.  The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him."
-- State Senator Barack Obama (Democrat, Illinois) Oct. 2, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"My position is very clear: The time has come for decisive action to eliminate the threat posed by Saddam Hussein's weapons of mass destruction."
-- Senator John Edwards (D, NC), Oct. 7, 2002

"We stopped the fighting [in 1991] on an agreement that Iraq would take steps to assure the world that it would not engage in further aggression and that it would destroy its weapons of mass destruction.  It has refused to take those steps.  That refusal constitutes a breach of the armistice which renders it void and justifies resumption of the armed conflict."
-- Sen. Harry Reid (D. NV) Oct. 9, 2002


"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"I come to this debate, Mr. Speaker, as one at the end of 10 years in office on the Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, where stopping the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction was one of my top priorities.  I applaud the President on focusing on this issue and on taking the lead to disarm Saddam Hussein.  ...  Others have talked about this threat that is posed by Saddam Hussein.  Yes, he has chemical weapons, he has biological weapons, he is trying to get nuclear weapons."  
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D. CA) Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

"People can quarrel with whether we should have more troops in Afghanistan or internationalize Iraq or whatever, but it is incontestable that on the day I left office, there were unaccounted for stocks of biological and chemical weapons."
-- Ex President Bill Clinton, Jul. 22, 2003 (Interview with CNN Larry King)

I asked very direct questions of the top people in the CIA and people who'd served in the Clinton administration.  And they said they believed that Saddam Hussein either had weapons or had the components of weapons or the ability to quickly make weapons of mass destruction.  What we're worried about is an A-bomb in a Ryder truck in New York, in Washington and St. Louis.  It cannot happen.  We have to prevent it from happening. 
-- Rep. Richard Gephardt (D, MT) Nov. 2, 2003
 

johnny went back to his bookmarks and it's just as shit as the last time he posted it.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

On 1/20/2022 at 11:19 AM, Brisketexan said:

Man...y'all have seen/heard the contortions of the "everyone should have a government ID to vote!" crowd when it's suggested that "fine, let's get a uniform government ID." right?  "No way am I gonna give the Deep State my information!  That's fascism/communism/naziism/a vegan plot!"

The governing rule is cognitive dissonance:

We desperately need to mandate government IDs, but don't make me get a government ID.

Every vote is sacred and must count, so we must require voter IDs to prevent ineligible votes, but it's perfectly ok to impose that rule in a way that will create barriers to eligible voters actually voting.

Everyone has an SS number.  Requiring a person to produce that card in no way will restrict voting rights.  However there'd need to be a mechanism in place to ensure only one vote was cast per assigned number, and that mechanism would have to be a computer system of some kind.

[JimmyJames 12271]

8 hours ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

Has Joe shut down the virus like he promised or have more people died from Rona since he assumed office?

Trump finally told the cult to get the vaccine and they booed him and would rather die instead to own the libs so no, Biden couldn’t stop the cult from being complete idiots and killing themselves. Too bad.

[jimmyjazz 45538]

1 hour ago, JimmyJames said:

Trump finally told the cult to get the vaccine and they booed him and would rather die instead to own the libs so no, Biden couldn’t stop the cult from being complete idiots and killing themselves. Too bad.

CDC Report -- Covid in LA County

 

Vaccinated + boosted = 23X lower chance of hospitalization than unvaccinated

Vaccinated (no booster) = 5X lower chance of hospitalization than unvaccinated

 

 

Counterpoint: California libtards.

 

[tchookem 3900]

Everyone has an SS number.  Requiring a person to produce that card in no way will restrict voting rights.  However there'd need to be a mechanism in place to ensure only one vote was cast per assigned number, and that mechanism would have to be a computer system of some kind.

My SS card doesn't have a picture on it. How would a SS card actually prevent voter fraud if it didn't have a picture? I mean, that's what's it's all for, preventing voter fraud.The huge problem that is voter fraud.

[gmr548 16481]

Everyone has an SS number.  Requiring a person to produce that card in no way will restrict voting rights.  However there'd need to be a mechanism in place to ensure only one vote was cast per assigned number, and that mechanism would have to be a computer system of some kind.

The only appropriate response to this is to remind you that the systems in place are/were already exceptionally effective at preventing one person from voting more than once, and every other conceivable form of fraud for that matter. This is supremely well documented, and has even held up in the face of farcical watch hunts like the “audit” in AZ.

There’s no rational discussion to be had on voter fraud because it’s a made up issue fed to Republican voters in order to get them to fall in line with party leadership’s ambitions to tilt the scales.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

19 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

The only appropriate response to this is to remind you that the systems in place are/were already exceptionally effective at preventing one person from voting more than once, and every other conceivable form of fraud for that matter. This is supremely well documented, and has even held up in the face of farcical watch hunts like the “audit” in AZ.

There’s no rational discussion to be had on voter fraud because it’s a made up issue fed to Republican voters in order to get them to fall in line with party leadership’s ambitions to tilt the scales.

Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.....

 

Hey fuck you to hornonthebayou... you have a nice day now.

Edited February 5, 2022 by Onboard 2.0

[gmr548 16481]

Raymond Shaw is the kindest, bravest, warmest most wonderful human being I've ever known in my life.....

So was this featured on FOX recently? I’ve seen several of our resident aggy make very clumsy references to this book/film.

[Onboard 2.0 9083]

Just now, gmr548 said:

So was this featured on FOX recently? I’ve seen several of our resident aggy make very clumsy references to this book/film.

Who knows, it's just a movie, and a great line lots of folks know.

[HRSchenker 2258]

We just hit 900,000 deaths related to COVID-19. I agree with Joe Biden. Anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States. Will a viable Democrat try to primary him in 2024?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1045620865892133

[Biff Tannen 45491]

7 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

We just hit 900,000 deaths related to COVID-19. I agree with Joe Biden. Anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States. Will a viable Democrat try to primary him in 2024?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1045620865892133

You have the most ironic handle/avatar on this entire site.

[F250 28674]

1 hour ago, HRSchenker said:

We just hit 900,000 deaths related to COVID-19. I agree with Joe Biden. Anyone who's responsible for that many deaths should not remain as President of the United States. Will a viable Democrat try to primary him in 2024?

https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1045620865892133

Could you explain your line of reasoning?

 

 

[mchookem 16184]

[fattyflattie 4636]

21 hours ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

Has Joe shut down the virus like he promised or have more people died from Rona since he assumed office?

That’s different. 

[aggie08 21414]

You guys trying to blame (almost exclusively) unvaccinated people still dying from this on any Democrat is fucking hysterical.

[workswithseed 2033]

1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

You guys trying to blame (almost exclusively) unvaccinated people still dying from this on any Democrat is fucking hysterical.

He said he'd shut it down. He shouldn't act as a god. It's fuckin dumb, and government can't save you from pain.

[aggie08 21414]

2 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

He said he'd shut it down. He shouldn't act as a god. It's fuckin dumb, and government can't save you from pain.

No doubt. It was a stupid thing to say knowing full well that there's 50M+ people who would literally rather die than do anything a liberal says would be smart. Happy?

[Satchel 6908]

4 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

He said he'd shut it down. He shouldn't act as a god. It's fuckin dumb, and government can't save you from pain.

Sure it can. It made life saving vaccines available to any person sane enough to take them.

[tchookem 3900]

No doubt. It was a stupid thing to say knowing full well that there's 50M+ people who would literally rather die than do anything a liberal says would be smart. Happy?

I'm actually interested in what their sincere expectations were and how Joe Biden could have done to meet those expectations, but I know better than to ask an earnest question. I appreciate your attempt to engage.

Maybe it was a stupid thing for Biden to say, but I think he honestly thought Americans would jump on board with vaccinations. Oh well, at least the trolls are happy.

[workswithseed 2033]

9 minutes ago, aggie08 said:

No doubt. It was a stupid thing to say knowing full well that there's 50M+ people who would literally rather die than do anything a liberal says would be smart. Happy?

Exactly, same as getting rid of cancer.