Joe Biden 2022: Enter Dark Brandon

[elfenix 34820]

1 hour ago, Longhornlove said:

I didn't say it didn't work, I said it was a scam. It's about tax payer dollars. Another thing, you think strip mining is environmentally friendly because it isn't. We can't run this country on wind/solar and batteries. Believe it or not you can generate clean power with natural gas, it's just frowned upon because of a stigma of it being a fossil fuel.

you're a walking collection of logical fallacies.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

4 hours ago, bolverk said:

The whole damn thing is terribly complicated. But one thing we're not talking about is energy efficiency/conservation. There's a strong chance you and I have this FB friend in common.

 

People seem to forget this aspect.  Assholes who drive big ass cars and trucks to their corporate O&G job in Houston and bitch about high gas and diesel prices are the icing on the fucking cake.  

[DigglerontheHoof 21567]

5 hours ago, C-Man said:

I paid $100.57 to fill up my Tahoe this afternoon in East Dallas. This is the first time I've ever surpassed $100 on a single tank of gas for this car. And it was worth every fucking penny. Put one of these stickers on the pump when I finished. Worth. Every. Last. Penny.

Same w/ my Silverado.  And I've got zero problem w/ it and will give dotard a big "fuck you, you miserable orange cunt", if he tries to run again. 

[jimmyjazz 47395]

6 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

I'm talking about a net petroleum exporter.

Imagine petroleum (including crude oil) imports plus exports is 100 "units".  Why is it important from a national security perspective for us to be 51 export + 49 import, as opposed to 49/51?

[Dnaguy 12745]

7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Imagine petroleum (including crude oil) imports plus exports is 100 "units".  Why is it important from a national security perspective for us to be 51 export + 49 import, as opposed to 49/51?

[Zeus 6894]

14 hours ago, henrygandorf said:

biden's fault, biden's fault, biden's fault, unless ukraine wins or putin dies then it's trump's doing 100% high fives all around.

He's got it, 3 months ago he said China was gonna help us out and a major effort to moderate the price oil was underway. It worked too thanks!

 

 

[Zeus 6894]

24 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Imagine petroleum (including crude oil) imports plus exports is 100 "units".  Why is it important from a national security perspective for us to be 51 export + 49 import, as opposed to 49/51?

Maybe so we don't have to beg Iran, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia to help us keep inflation from spiking and fucking our economy up. When chaos happens for whatever reason, it's best to not be dependent on other countries, even if it's +/-1%.

We only got 3% from Russia and somehow that's spiked gas prices here like 50%

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/597408-lawmakers-wary-of-potential-oil-talks-with-venezuela-saudi-arabia-and?userid=417871

 

[wildcat09 29621]

7 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

I didn't say it didn't work, I said it was a scam. It's about tax payer dollars. Another thing, you think strip mining is environmentally friendly because it isn't. We can't run this country on wind/solar and batteries. Believe it or not you can generate clean power with natural gas, it's just frowned upon because of a stigma of it being a fossil fuel.

Ah yes, that super clean, non-greenhouse gas known as [checks notes] methane. Yup, no problems at all associated with burning shitloads of good ol methane. Except that for the first two decades after its release, it’s 80 times more potent at warming than co2. But that’s not a big deal. In fact, we’ve always wanted to flood our coastal cities even faster.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

35 minutes ago, Zeus said:

Maybe so we don't have to beg Iran, Venezuela, and Saudi Arabia to help us keep inflation from spiking and fucking our economy up. When chaos happens for whatever reason, it's best to not be dependent on other countries, even if it's +/-1%.

We only got 3% from Russia and somehow that's spiked gas prices here like 50%

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/597408-lawmakers-wary-of-potential-oil-talks-with-venezuela-saudi-arabia-and?userid=417871

 

It is like you do not understand how GLOBAL CRUDE MARKETS work.  Holy shit, you are fucking stupid.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

Imagine petroleum (including crude oil) imports plus exports is 100 "units".  Why is it important from a national security perspective for us to be 51 export + 49 import, as opposed to 49/51?

It isn't important.  These folks are arguing around themselves.  Long and short, it is a GLOBAL CRUDE MARKET, so even if we produced all our own crude, that crude would still be subject to the global market, and a producer isn't going to sell it to a refiner for less than what it is worth.  And further, if that crude is cheaper to that refiner and they can fun it, but refined products prices are higher in Europe or Asia, if the price of transport gets them a greater margin by exporting those bbls, they will do exactly that until the arb closes.

These folks arguing for dumbass solutions are completely ignorant to how this all works.  Then again, they are blaming Biden and he has little to no impact on these prices.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

I find it very amusing that @Zeus is in here showing his ass at every turn, showing his complete ignorance of Oil and Gas and how Global Markets function, because he is an idiotic troll.  However, every post of his is pos repped by @Bravo, another moronic troll.  It is astounding how idiotic people are when it comes to basic concepts like supply and demand and how that impacts prices.  What fucking idiots. 

[Neonmoon 38130]

8 hours ago, Longhornlove said:

the government can't even run the post office or balance a budget

This is one of my favorite conservative talking points. They break everything and then complain that everything is broken. 

George Bush passed the Postal Accountability and Enhancement Act (PAEA) in 2006. This mandated the USPS to pay health and retirement benefits of all of its employees for at least 50 years in advance. It also mandated they have to deliver mail 6 days a week and stamp prices could raise faster than inflation. 

So Bush basically just increased opex by a shit ton and put a hard stop on revenues. I can’t believe the USPS was losing money?

email and FedEx are problems but they’re not the reason the USPS can’t be competitive. 

But thankfully, Biden just passed the USPS Reform Act to eliminate the Republican fuckery. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

Also, another factor a lot in here seem to forget.  US Oil and Gas Companies are private companies, and as a result, they are not compelled to sell products in the US if the margins are better if they export.  Our friends on the right bleat about socialism constantly without actually understanding what that word means.  But holy shit, they have to pay higher prices for gasoline for their giant gas guzzler that they bought because they are compensating for a small penis....that they only use to commute from Kingwood or Fulshear to downtown Houston, and watch out.  Suddenly the federal government needs to step in and DO SOMETHING and oil companies need to stop charging market prices.  

Fuck these folks.

[gmr548 16704]

People seem to forget this aspect.  Assholes who drive big ass cars and trucks to their corporate O&G job in Houston and bitch about high gas and diesel prices are the icing on the fucking cake.  

I’ve always liked my little Honda Fit. Loving it these days. My once every two week tank went from $20 to $30.

[jimmyjazz 47395]

Just to put some color on the spike in oil prices, AAA says Brent is up 27% over the last 12 days, and WTI is up 30% over that same time period.

In other news, the fact that Russian product only represents 3% of our imports doesn't mean the global sanctions against Russian oil haven't had a massive effect on prices.  The United States doesn't get to define prices independent of the rest of the world's consumer nations.

[Nivek 17454]

15 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

The sheer ignorance it takes to posit nuclear as an alternative power source to take the heat off current oil demand is mind-boggling.

Yeah, well, if GM would get off its ass we could all be driving on trash powered Mr. Fusion vehicles.  

[Dutchrudder 11251]

17 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

It is my understanding the pipeline would take oil from Canada to be refined on our coast and then exported, correct?

Sorry, cached post for some reason.

Edited March 9, 2022 by Dutchrudder

[Nivek 17454]

1 hour ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Also, another factor a lot in here seem to forget.  US Oil and Gas Companies are private companies, and as a result, they are not compelled to sell products in the US if the margins are better if they export.  Our friends on the right bleat about socialism constantly without actually understanding what that word means.  But holy shit, they have to pay higher prices for gasoline for their giant gas guzzler that they bought because they are compensating for a small penis....that they only use to commute from Kingwood or Fulshear to downtown Houston, and watch out.  Suddenly the federal government needs to step in and DO SOMETHING and oil companies need to stop charging market prices.  

Fuck these folks.

As a guy who owns a gas guzzler that I willingly paid for, I priced out the difference between the cost of this family car and a more expensive uglier family car (better mileage) and I assumed $5/gallon gas, I worked out the difference in years between the price given the mileage and it would have taken something like 8 years to break even given the price differential to have the ugly hybrid given the mileage that I put on a vehicle right now.  (I have <6000 miles on the vehicle after a year which is about 1/2 of my typical mileage.   

And please leave my penis out of this.   It is the reason I have the family car in the first place.  That dickhead has broke me.   

It is always funny how quickly the right wants to embrace fascism when it comes to oil, but they are always out of ideas when it comes to rising health care which continues to outpace inflation, COL, and never seems to have a bust cycle.  

[Dutchrudder 11251]

Anyway, getting back to Biden and the free world. Russia produces 10.5m bpd, they consume about 3.5m bpd. At the very least, we need to find a net new ~7m bpd to bring to market to keep prices relatively stable if we want to push them out of the world market.  Where will that come from? How will that energy be displaced? What happens to the EU if Russia stops sending O&G to them, since they are more dependent on their supply. I don't know, but I also don't see any obvious answers out there. Asking OPEC and Venezuela to produce more won't happen, unless the US and EU are willing to offer other concessions. And that's not even considering natural gas supply.

Just for the heck of it, I looked up oil reserves by country, and I didn't realize that Venezuela was right up there with Saudi. https://www.worldometers.info/oil/#oil-reserves

Those numbers are from 2016, but I doubt it changed considerably since then. Venezuela is a rough place to develop though. There's a good reason we don't work with them. I know a lot of big oil companies had their assets nationalized (seized) several years ago, and none of them have gone back. Normalizing relations and trade with them would not be easy, or even safe to do, but if cancelling Russia is more important, maybe we can make it work. 

There are still a lot of unanswered questions about where the oil market is headed. Hoping for Putin to be assassinated and a new Russian president installed to stop the war is not a solution. That's a moonshot at this point, and unlikely to happen. We need to be crafting a global energy policy and plan with Russian oil out of the mix. We need to increase production across the board, stateside, in the EU and anywhere in the middle east that is friendly. That's a tough sell to countries that are seeing 3x revenue from what they were getting during the pandemic.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

3 hours ago, Nivek said:

As a guy who owns a gas guzzler that I willingly paid for, I priced out the difference between the cost of this family car and a more expensive uglier family car (better mileage) and I assumed $5/gallon gas, I worked out the difference in years between the price given the mileage and it would have taken something like 8 years to break even given the price differential to have the ugly hybrid given the mileage that I put on a vehicle right now.  (I have <6000 miles on the vehicle after a year which is about 1/2 of my typical mileage.   

And please leave my penis out of this.   It is the reason I have the family car in the first place.  That dickhead has broke me.   

It is always funny how quickly the right wants to embrace fascism when it comes to oil, but they are always out of ideas when it comes to rising health care which continues to outpace inflation, COL, and never seems to have a bust cycle.  

But you aren't yelling, "Do something!" about these gas prices out of one side of your mouth while screaming about socialism out of the other.  

[Nivek 17454]

24 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

But you aren't yelling, "Do something!" about these gas prices out of one side of your mouth while screaming about socialism out of the other.  

Oh, I want the prices to go higher.   The only way green energy gets pushed more is if the cheap alternatives become more expensive.   

[CowboyFred 1162]

This article seems important…

 

https://time.com/5818938/opec-oil-deal-coronavirus-mexico/

[Longhorn_Fan68 34108]

[DigglerontheHoof 21567]

trump's plane or one a billionaire let him borrow?

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

2 hours ago, CowboyFred said:

This article seems important…

 

https://time.com/5818938/opec-oil-deal-coronavirus-mexico/

That was 2020, and in the aftermath of the Saudi/Russia price war which fucked over a LOT of producers.

Edited March 9, 2022 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[Nivek 17454]

2 hours ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

Like his buddy Vlad, it appears he skimped on the maintenance. 

[workswithseed 2205]

2 hours ago, Nivek said:

Oh, I want the prices to go higher.   The only way green energy gets pushed more is if the cheap alternatives become more expensive.   

I'll have to invest in a saw, and ax before energy gets too expensive. I'll start cutting and chopping wood to sale to keep homes heated for cheaper.

[elfenix 34820]

31 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

That was 2020, and in the aftermath of the Saudi/Russia price war which fucked over a LOT of producers.

we're still impacted by it:

[CowboyFred 1162]

58 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

That was 2020, and in the aftermath of the Saudi/Russia price war which fucked over a LOT of producers.

Does not mean it’s not relevant today

 

6 minutes ago, elfenix said:

we're still impacted by it:

1234

[F250 29227]

42 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

I'll have to invest in a saw, and ax before energy gets too expensive. I'll start cutting and chopping wood to sale to keep homes heated for cheaper.

How big is the market for off grid technology in your neck of the woods? It doesn't seem to be big here but I was wondering about the granola NW.

 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

55 minutes ago, CowboyFred said:

Does not mean it’s not relevant today

 

1234

 

1 hour ago, elfenix said:

we're still impacted by it:

Oh, I agree, but it isn’t like that is some gotcha moment.  Part of the reason for doing that was to do serious harm to US producers.  But again,  not something Joe Biden has any sort of control over.

Edited March 9, 2022 by PenelopeWitherspoon

[Zeus 6894]

11 hours ago, Nivek said:

Oh, I want the prices to go higher.   The only way green energy gets pushed more is if the cheap alternatives become more expensive.   

You realize it takes energy energy to make the photo cells and wind turbines right?

 

The fun part at 24:30

Edited March 10, 2022 by Zeus

[Fudge Nuggets 19491]

13 hours ago, workswithseed said:

I'll have to invest in a saw, and ax before energy gets too expensive. I'll start cutting and chopping wood to sale to keep homes heated for cheaper.

sell

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19367]

4 minutes ago, Bravo said:

Sweet the typo police on an internet message group. Fun! 

It is like you are fucking new here.  Post less.  

[StassneyHorn 6792]

Watch this 1 hour 40 minute video from Michael Moore he typed.

[Zeus 6894]

7 hours ago, Zeus said:

The fun part at 24:30

 

24 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

Watch this 1 hour 40 minute video from Michael Moore he typed.

I skipped to the good part for ya, read. You only have to watch it for 5 mins silly goose.

[StassneyHorn 6792]

There’s only one user I hold in my heart that I will watch YouTube videos for when they can’t make their own points.

[Nivek 17454]

10 hours ago, Zeus said:

You realize it takes energy energy to make the photo cells and wind turbines right?

 

The fun part at 24:30

OK maybe you don't know who my background but let's just say I have a natural science understanding.  So when someone talks about quartz sources for materials, this is like me running up to you to tell you that I just figured out that bacon makes sandwiches better.  It most certainly is true, but it is not some new discovery.

Oil and coal require energy to produce.   From the power that supplied the drills to the equipment necessary to extract it, to te coffee and cold pizza the geologist drank.  

 

[TheStoicPaisano 9961]

1 hour ago, Nivek said:

and cold pizza the geologist drank.  

 

 

[Mrs Whiggins 13052]

As an FYI, and sorry if it was posted already, I did a rudimentary search for a topic but ended up here. The ODNI Annual Threat Assessment is out and the link is here:

https://www.dni.gov/files/ODNI/documents/assessments/ATA-2022-Unclassified-Report.pdf

 

It is only 31 pages, and is pretty basic, giving a global overview. The date is February 7, using information as of January 21.

Note: no mention of Hunter Biden's laptop.

[babysdaddy 2731]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/wsj-poll-biden-ukraine-inflation-midterms-11646975533?mod=hp_lead_pos5

[Incredulity 11891]

Congratulations to Joe Biden on building the greatest economy the world has ever seen. 

 

32,944.19-229.88 (-0.69%)

 

 

 

 

[StassneyHorn 6792]

You’re not even trying, this attempt was lackluster. This is buying chocolate on Valentines Day and nothing else level from you.

[aggie08 21861]

I have it in pretty good authority that the DOW being above 30k is the greatest thing that's happened in the history of the world, so what's the issue?

[Longhorn_Fan68 34108]

36 minutes ago, StassneyHorn said:

You’re not even trying, this attempt was lackluster. This is buying chocolate on Valentines Day and nothing else level from you.

and what's worse is when you see the version I get, it looks like he ate the chocolates on the way home, shit in the box, and tried to pass it off.
 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

[StassneyHorn 6792]

When we takeover Russia in WW3, I want them grouped under our Minor Outlying islands 

[jimmyjazz 47395]

1 minute ago, StassneyHorn said:

When we takeover Russia in WW3, I want them grouped under our Minor Outlying islands 

Hopefully Russia will be granted statehood, certainly before those losers in Puerto Rico, with their beautiful beaches, amazing food, awesome jungle and kickass baseball (relatively speaking).

Give me beet soup, dammit!

[babysdaddy 2731]

On 3/11/2022 at 5:34 PM, Hugo Stiglitz said:

 

Who is Oleksiy Sorokin?

[bolverk 30400]

23 minutes ago, babysdaddy said:

Who is Oleksiy Sorokin?

Oleksiy Sorokin is the political editor and chief operating officer of the Kyiv Independent. Following a BA from the University of Toronto, Oleksiy became a political writer at the Kyiv Post. He broke stories on government and judiciary topics and investigated the former president and the current Prosecutor General.
https://kyivindependent.com/author/oleksiy-sorokin/