Joe Biden 2022: Enter Dark Brandon

[fattyflattie 4636]

2 minutes ago, Mdhorn said:

Couple that with the rabid every opposing view needs to be eliminated/dehumanization rhetoric and it's brainwashing murder for simpletons or challenged people.

If you believe this is a one side issue, you need to reflect on your bias. 

[Mdhorn 5911]

7 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

If you believe this is a one side issue, you need to reflect on your bias. 

We can compare lists of cars driving into political rallies and shootings.  Ready to do this?  The side pushing gun control should be a total giveaway regarding elimination or dehumanization of the other side.  In fact, one side is pushing for equal rights, and they're doing so peacefully.    

[Goofyboy 3202]

Lol. No, I’m fine with you making a great living. I’m all for everyone who wants to put in effort making a living. Easiest place in the world to do so. 

If you’re a white male.

[workswithseed 2035]

22 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

One day a gunman could enter a school and murder fattys grandkids, and he will blame the libs for not being tougher on crime 

It will be another tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury signifying nothing 

Hey, Saw....

[fattyflattie 4636]

7 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

If you’re a white male.

If you’re here.  How do Mexican nationals do here, compared to where they were born?   Nicaraguans, Guatemalans?  Africans?    What about the expats from Europe?   They coming here to make less money?    Fuck it I’ll make it easier to answer.
 

Who comes to America and does worse?  

[YChang 3430]

6 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

If you’re here.  How do Mexican nationals do here, compared to where they were born?   Nicaraguans, Guatemalans?  Africans?    What about the expats from Europe?   They coming here to make less money?    Fuck it I’ll make it easier to answer.
 

Who comes to America and does worse?  

I mean no one of course. And I agree with you in principle that the US is still seen as a desirable place for immigrants to have a better life. With that said, it’s not uncommon either for that better life (whatever that means to the family) to take a few generations. 

[workswithseed 2035]

8 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

If you’re here.  How do Mexican nationals do here, compared to where they were born?   Nicaraguans, Guatemalans?  Africans?    What about the expats from Europe?   They coming here to make less money?    Fuck it I’ll make it easier to answer.
 

Who comes to America and does worse?  

His racism is showing. 

[David Dennison 18655]

51 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

Lol. No, I’m fine with you making a great living. I’m all for everyone who wants to put in effort making a living. Easiest place in the world to do so. 

Show your work.

[fattyflattie 4636]

13 minutes ago, YChang said:

I mean no one of course. And I agree with you in principle that the US is still seen as a desirable place for immigrants to have a better life. With that said, it’s not uncommon either for that better life (whatever that means to the family) to take a few generations. 

Appreciate your perspective. That’s what pretty much every immigrant I’ve ever talked to says. The exception being the British and Scottish oil guys who are here padding accounts before they head back home.   Better life can be as simple as no longer buying open air meat, to no longer living in a favela, to not having your arms hacked off for your religious beliefs.  But WhItE MaLe!!1!

[Goofyboy 3202]

You said easiest place in the world… it’s the easiest if your a white male.

[fattyflattie 4636]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Show your work.

Do I really have to qualify non-homogenous nation? 

[fattyflattie 4636]

Just now, Goofyboy said:

You said easiest place in the world… it’s the easiest if your a white male.

It’s also the easiest if you’re not.  

[David Dennison 18655]

1 minute ago, fattyflattie said:

Do I really have to qualify non-homogenous nation? 

There are plenty of those. What makes you think the U.S. is the best for immigrants?

[David Dennison 18655]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

It’s also the easiest if you’re not.  

Are you sure about that?

[fattyflattie 4636]

Just now, David Dennison said:

There are plenty of those. What makes you think the U.S. is the best for immigrants?

Because it’s literally difficult to not succeed here.  

[David Dennison 18655]

33 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

If you’re here.  How do Mexican nationals do here, compared to where they were born?   Nicaraguans, Guatemalans?  Africans?    What about the expats from Europe?   They coming here to make less money?    Fuck it I’ll make it easier to answer.
 

Who comes to America and does worse?  

Plenty of people. It happens all the time. 

[workswithseed 2035]

3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Plenty of people. It happens all the time. 

You're going to bring up data to back that more immigrants make less than where they come from, or just say it does?

[David Dennison 18655]

4 minutes ago, workswithseed said:

You're going to bring up data to back that more immigrants make less than where they come from, or just say it does?

Show me the data that says all of them make more.

[workswithseed 2035]

Just now, David Dennison said:

Show me the data that says all of them make more.

[David Dennison 18655]

So I guess we just take it as an article of faith that the United States is the best country in the world to be an immigrant and that an immigrant's experience in the United States is always better than in his country of origin.

[Goofyboy 3202]

So I guess we just take it as an article of faith that the United States is the best country in the world to be an immigrant and that an immigrant's experience in the United States is always better than in his country of origin.

It’s that American exceptionalism Kool-aid they all drink.

[gmr548 16504]

I've never seen data on income for immigrants vs country of origin. I'd be interested in seeing it. In general I would imagine people earn more here but the cost of living is often substantially higher. On average I would bet immigrants come out better economically - especially those not from central America because it's incredibly selective/difficult to get in from farther afield - but everything is on a bell curve when you're talking about volumes as large as this. To act like there aren't plenty of immigrants for whom the whole "move to the US" thing doesn't pan out is just demonstrating a shitty grasp of math.

What is known is that immigrants, in aggregate, arrive to the US in better health than Americans of similar age/income levels, and health outcomes start to decline as they, and especially their children, start adopting the American lifestyle.

So the answer to this question also depends on how we define "doing well" or "doing better."

 

[Gil Bang 25897]

Meanwhile, on the subject of Joe Biden:

 

 

[Leeroy Jenkins 2390]

4 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

Because it’s literally difficult to not succeed here.  

Wow.  You are clueless. 

[Brisketexan 104596]

Appreciate your perspective. That’s what pretty much every immigrant I’ve ever talked to says. The exception being the British and Scottish oil guys who are here padding accounts before they head back home.   Better life can be as simple as no longer buying open air meat, to no longer living in a favela, to not having your arms hacked off for your religious beliefs.  But WhItE MaLe!!1!

Local man who beats the shit out of his wife says “bitch, you should just be grateful I took you away from the home you grew up in, where your daddy beat you twice as bad.”
Local man thinks this statement is exculpatory.
Local man is a piece of shit.

[Fudge Nuggets 19149]

6 hours ago, YChang said:

I mean no one of course. And I agree with you in principle that the US is still seen as a desirable place for immigrants to have a better life. With that said, it’s not uncommon either for that better life (whatever that means to the family) to take a few generations. 

I'm trying to figure out how immigrants coming here to do better is any different than African and Asian subcontinent immigrants going to the UK, Germany, France, Italy, etc.  I mean are they all doing worse in developed countries than they were in their home countries?  I doubt it.

[Biff Tannen 45492]

3 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Meanwhile, on the subject of Joe Biden:

 

 

Yes, but he's SENILE!!!11!!1. HE'S CHEATING!!!11111!!.11

[YChang 3430]

17 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

I'm trying to figure out how immigrants coming here to do better is any different than African and Asian subcontinent immigrants going to the UK, Germany, France, Italy, etc.  I mean are they all doing worse in developed countries than they were in their home countries?  I doubt it.

Help me out, I don’t understand why you quoted me… 

 

[jimmyjazz 45554]

Why is "better than their previous shitty life" the bar?  Why isn't "a good, healthy, happy life" the bar?

It's literally the story of our country.

[wildcat09 29237]

Biden having lunch with Tom Friedman is the surest indication yet that we're fucked in the midterms.

[safe sex 11678]

32 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Why is "better than their previous shitty life" the bar?  Why isn't "a good, healthy, happy life" the bar?

It's literally the story of our country.

Absolute insanity to me that people are okay with our level of poverty because third world countries are worse to be poor in.

We have the resources, and more (!), for it to not be this way

[Brisketexan 104596]

17 minutes ago, trauma babe said:

Absolute insanity to me that people are okay with our level of poverty because third world countries are worse to be poor in.

We have the resources, and more (!), for it to not be this way

Again, don't complain about how much I beat you when we all know your daddy beat you worse.

That's the logic here.  It's as repugnant as it sounds.

[babysdaddy 2718]

 

 

[UDontKnow 10439]

19 hours ago, David Dennison said:

So I guess we just take it as an article of faith that the United States is the best country in the world to be an immigrant and that an immigrant's experience in the United States is always better than in his country of origin.

Not sure what you're going for here. But it's pretty obvious why immigrants come to the United States is because of the dream of a better life with opportunities.

The immigrant's experience is going to be a full spectrum based on several factors ranging from their education levels prior to immigrating, education/employment opportunities in America, social and community supports established upon immigration, ability to adjust to a new environment, and just luck in general.

I suppose much of the above is the same is true for immigrants headed to other nations as well.

[elfenix 34171]

15 hours ago, Gil Bang said:

Meanwhile, on the subject of Joe Biden:

 

 

*biden's puppeteers

[Longhorn_Fan68 33841]

 

[Mdhorn 5911]

22 hours ago, fattyflattie said:

If you believe this is a one side issue, you need to reflect on your bias. 

Hey fats, "your bias" is in the news again today:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/trump-shares-post-suggesting-civil-003103426.html

In an interview with CNN, Conway said Republicans were willing to look the other way from Trump’s incendiary rhetoric because “they’re terrified of him.”

“But they’re also terrified of a Republican base that’s become increasingly radicalized,” he continued. “That actually does believe that people who politically disagree with them are a threat to the nation and therefore violence could be necessary to fight them off, and that’s what we saw in this social media post.”

 

and my take:

 

Edited May 23, 2022 by Mdhorn

[shakahorn 1625]

4 hours ago, babysdaddy said:

 

 

He's saying the quiet part out loud, but everyone has known the quiet part forever...or at least since 1979.  I'd be hard pressed to name any elected official on Capitol Hill that knows more about China and Taiwan than him.  Heck, he was on the Foreign Relations Committee when One China and the Taiwan Relations Act  were drafted in 1979.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33841]

 

[Willfully Horn 7913]

On 5/14/2022 at 6:59 PM, Immaculate Vibes said:

Unsafe huh? Unsafe like nationwide formula shortages?  Don’t answer that. 

Unsafe like caps on imports have proven to be?

[MirrOlure 14625]

 

But he can’t put the Velcro on the front end of his Depends together.

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/president-biden-incredible-transition-high-gas-prices


Wait I thought he was blaming putin for high gas prices?

Probably just misspoke. Carry on.

[Vegas64 665]

To bring back the topic on Biden and the campaign promise of student loan forgiveness. Sounds like the $10k isn't such a bad figure if this is true:

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With outstanding federal student loans totaling $1.6 trillion, "cancel student debt" is a mantra that can be heard on college campuses and beyond. While student debt impacts the lives of many, how does it actually break down? Well, it turns out "most borrowers have small loans," with 53% owing $20,000 or less, and nearly a third owing less than $10,000, reports The Washington Post. Just 7% of borrowers owe more than $100,000, although the Post notes that people with the highest levels of debt are often the most able to pay it back.

 

[Biff Tannen 45492]

2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

Just 7% of borrowers owe more than $100,000, although the Post notes that people with the highest levels of debt are often the most able to pay it back.

So that 7% isn't all for 18th century French poetry and underwater basket weaving majors?  I've been assured that they are the ones racking up student loan debt and not the STEM majors.

[Okie State 3788]

So that 7% isn't all for 18th century French poetry and underwater basket weaving majors?  I've been assured that they are the ones racking up student loan debt and not the STEM majors.

What a dumbass narrative that is that continues to make the rounds.

[Vegas64 665]

49 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

So that 7% isn't all for 18th century French poetry and underwater basket weaving majors?  I've been assured that they are the ones racking up student loan debt and not the STEM majors.

I think the takeaway is more that just getting a quick legislative win at $10k forgiveness is actually very impactful, by the numbers. You are erasing 1/3 of the student loan populations debt and meaningfully impacting 53% of the population. And this is as a first step plus it executes on a campaign promise and shows some rigor and integrity to doing what you say you are going to do.

Also, it sounds like the 7% with the 100k+ debt, whatever their major may be, are the vocal minority who are letting great be the enemy of good here.

[safe sex 11678]

I'm going to place much less blame on people with lots of student debt rather than the Democrats who refuse to play ball for their party on issues that have broad bipartisan approval

[Vegas64 665]

1 hour ago, trauma babe said:

I'm going to place much less blame on people with lots of student debt rather than the Democrats who refuse to play ball for their party on issues that have broad bipartisan approval

True. It just confounds why it won't get done, even at the executive override level, since it's $10k, it's a low lift, and it's got broad bipartisan approval.

[safe sex 11678]

And yet there are people claiming that the left controls Biden lmao

[Vegas64 665]

1 hour ago, trauma babe said:

And yet there are people claiming that the left controls Biden lmao

At this point I'm not actually sure what is stopping Biden from doing $10k loan forgiveness at the executive level with a flick-a-da-wrist of his pen. It's not the left and I don't think it's the crazies and it sure ain't the moderates and left of center/right of centers. 

Do we have a credible read on why we haven't seen any loan forgiveness? And don't give me inflation crap-- we know for a 99% fact that the money that would have been going to loans has not been saved in a rainy day fund called "future loan payments" so there isn't a flood of new money with $10k forgiveness.