Joe Biden 2022: Enter Dark Brandon

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

26 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

good, the bullshit TFG left behind is severely hampering the solar industry. oh wait, you are probably an O&G fanboy who wants to watch the world burn. green is future - might wanna get onboard!

One can think pursuing massive solar investment is wise while at the same time recognizing there will still be fossil fuels in our future.

 

You couldn’t eliminate fossil fuels from our day to day lives even if everyone wanted. Too vital to too many vital industries. Look at the global famine that’s unfolding. High natural gas prices play a huge role in that via fertilizer.
 

We should be leveraging our resource advantages where we have them. It would make us more energy secure (and politically secure), while also helping to stabilize things geopolitically.  
 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33834]

1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

One can think pursuing massive solar investment is wise while at the same time recognizing there will still be fossil fuels in our future.

 

You couldn’t eliminate fossil fuels from our day to day lives even if everyone wanted. Too vital to too many vital industries. Look at the global famine that’s unfolding. High natural gas prices play a huge role in that via fertilizer.
 

We should be leveraging our resource advantages where we have them. It would make us more energy secure (and politically secure), while also helping to stabilize things geopolitically.  
 

so you agree ERCOT sucks shit too. guess we agree on something

[David Dennison 18651]

1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

One can think pursuing massive solar investment is wise while at the same time recognizing there will still be fossil fuels in our future.

 

You couldn’t eliminate fossil fuels from our day to day lives even if everyone wanted. Too vital to too many vital industries. Look at the global famine that’s unfolding. High natural gas prices play a huge role in that via fertilizer.
 

We should be leveraging our resource advantages where we have them. It would make us more energy secure (and politically secure), while also helping to stabilize things geopolitically.  
 

The climate immigration wars are going to be something else.

[elfenix 34171]

 

27 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

We should be leveraging our resource advantages where we have them. It would make us more energy secure (and politically secure), while also helping to stabilize things geopolitically.  

glad to see you're for nationalization, comrade

[horn4life 3755]

One thing that I think Biden should seriously consider is building a national refining capacity.  Maybe take over the refinery shell abandoned last year?  I have always said (every tie we have high gas prices, JUNE of every year) what good is a strategic petroleum reserve without strategic refining capacity.  Each and every year gas prices go up because of a known supply squeeze created every single year as we convert from winter to summer fuel blends.

Now I know for those that don't know a fucking lick about economics the price of gas (this one time) is the President's fault.  If prices were low we know that Republicans would be using the exact opposite logic.  

But I think we should have national refining capacity.  Think of the billions it could save consumers.  And it would help out the oil companies that lament that the price of goes up every summer. Without strategic refining capacity what good does a bunch of oil in the ground really do?  

 

If you really want to lay blame for high gas prices, you should put it at the feet of Former PResident Donald J. Trump, who sat back and did not utter a peep when his fanboys Putin and the Murderer Saudi Prince decided to flood the market with oil to destroy the US fracking industry and US World oil production dominance.  Because... for you non-economics folks... it's ultimately supply and demand.  Trump let the US get rolled by Russia and the Saudis.  Of course Jared got $2 billion last month so maybe for Trump is was worth it.  The GOP honestly does not give a shit if the working class folks are struggling with high gas prices.  If there was a solution they would be against it!  Because it's purely about political power, and NEVER about the American people.

 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

11 minutes ago, elfenix said:

 

glad to see you're for nationalization, comrade

We should stop stepping on our own dicks does not equal nationalization. 

[David Dennison 18651]

39 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

We should stop stepping on our own dicks does not equal nationalization. 

Yeah, but burning up the planet kinda equals stepping on our own dicks.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

24 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Yeah, but burning up the planet kinda equals stepping on our own dicks.

If we’re being honest here, you’re weighing one uncertain outcome (“burning up the planet”) vs more certain outcomes. Those include first world problems like blackouts or high food prices and third world problems like famine, starvation and death. These are the trade offs of the energy transition. 

[Goofyboy 3197]

Until small nuclear plants are on the table, energy talks are a joke. The new nuclear tech that is out there is game changing. If Biden really wanted to lead from the front, he’s get on nuclear.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33834]

9 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

If we’re being honest here, you’re weighing one uncertain outcome (“burning up the planet”) vs more certain outcomes. Those include first world problems like blackouts or high food prices and third world problems like famine, starvation and death. These are the trade offs of the energy transition. 

IV right now on climate change

[Anastasis 23393]

 

[Sbbruin 21708]

24 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

If we’re being honest here, you’re weighing one uncertain outcome (“burning up the planet”) vs more certain outcomes. Those include first world problems like blackouts or high food prices and third world problems like famine, starvation and death. These are the trade offs of the energy transition. 

It's really not an uncertain outcome.  Left unchecked, it is a certainty.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

17 minutes ago, Goofyboy said:

Until small nuclear plants are on the table, energy talks are a joke. The new nuclear tech that is out there is game changing. If Biden really wanted to lead from the front, he’s get on nuclear.

Yeah I haven’t even mentioned that. You can’t claim to be concerned about climate change but still be shutting down nuclear plants. Our energy policy broadly is incoherent. 
 

 

[David Dennison 18651]

38 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

If we’re being honest here, you’re weighing one uncertain outcome (“burning up the planet”) vs more certain outcomes. Those include first world problems like blackouts or high food prices and third world problems like famine, starvation and death. These are the trade offs of the energy transition. 

It's not uncertain.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

29 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

It's really not an uncertain outcome.  Left unchecked, it is a certainty.

 

17 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

We’re talking about attempting to model the future outcomes of a complex system and basically focusing on one variable input. You may think you have a degree of certainty, but you don’t have absolute certainty. Sorry. 
 

 

Edited June 7, 2022 by Immaculate Vibes
Meant to quote Dennison

[David Dennison 18651]

1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

We’re talking about attempting to model the future outcomes of a complex system and basically focusing on one variable input. You may think you have a degree of certainty, but you don’t have absolute certainty. Sorry. 
 

 

That's the same load of uncertainly bullshit that the oil companies have been peddling for decades to ensure we never stop using fossil fuels.

 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33834]

3 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

 

We’re talking about attempting to model the future outcomes of a complex system and basically focusing on one variable input. You may think you have a degree of certainty, but you don’t have absolute certainty. Sorry. 
 

 

I'm about as certain about climate change as I am there is no god. let's see which one shows up first (hint: one is already here)

[Sbbruin 21708]

2 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

I'm about as certain about climate change as I am there is no god. let's see which one shows up first (hint: one is already here)

[wildcat09 29224]

GR Horn doing "climate change isn't real" propaganda should get him negged into a new username at the very least.

[gmr548 16491]

lol y’all responding to grhorn

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19093]

1 hour ago, wildcat09 said:

GR Horn doing "climate change isn't real" propaganda should get him negged into a new username at the very least.

This.  

[Neonmoon 38127]

4 hours ago, David Dennison said:

The climate immigration wars are going to be something else.

Its already happening in the US. I talk to climate migrants everyday. People moving because of fires in California, or heat in Texas or Florida. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 33834]

lol, these fucking people

 

[Bama Chick 28596]

Cocaine, huh?

Guess we know who invited Madison Cawthorn to his party.

[Queen Bitch 1692]

Who knew John Kennedy had jokes?!

[elfenix 34171]

21 hours ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

If we’re being honest here, you’re weighing one uncertain outcome (“burning up the planet”) vs more certain outcomes. Those include first world problems like blackouts or high food prices and third world problems like famine, starvation and death. These are the trade offs of the energy transition. 

if we'd have started this 25 years ago when the oil companies doubled down on their gaslighting campaign the trade offs wouldn't be as severe. 

if we'd have started this 35 years ago when hanson made his presentation to congress the trade offs wouldn't be as severe

if we'd have started this 45 years ago when exxon's own scientists told them this was happening the trade offs wouldn't be as severe

if we'd have started this 55 years ago when the API paid Stanford to investigate and found that it would happen the trade offs wouldn't be as severe

if we'd have started this 65 years ago when Edward Teller told them it was going to happen the trade offs wouldn't be as severe. 

if this had started a couple decades ago we probably wouldn't have even noticed it. 

instead, we've put this off for as long as possible because exxon might not make as much money.  this is exactly what you want GRHorn.  you want mass starvation because you're a selfish piece of gaslighted skinsuit who wanted to push this off to the last possible minute in service of chasing short term dollars. 

Edited June 8, 2022 by elfenix

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

Not bad.

@David Dennison would argue that this is actually a good thing.

[jimmyjazz 45546]

I for one am apoplectic that 60% of Americans are too stupid or brainwashed to know what POTUS' duties actually are.

[Goofyboy 3197]

I for one am apoplectic that 60% of Americans are too stupid or brainwashed to know what POTUS' duties actually are.

They think the President is a dictator while hating dictators.

[Longhorn_Fan68 33834]

if the inmates ever quit running the asylum I want to make it mandatory to keep everyone in school until 40. there is no excuse for a country this wealthy to have this many functionally illiterate people

[TwiceHorn 31262]

On 5/22/2022 at 7:21 PM, Gil Bang said:

Meanwhile, on the subject of Joe Biden:

 

 

Friedman's a pinko faget.  RINO.  Probably a pedo and has a space laser.

[Bookman 4610]

11 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

if the inmates ever quit running the asylum I want to make it mandatory to keep everyone in school until 40. there is no excuse for a country this wealthy to have this many functionally illiterate people

More schooling won't do anything for them.

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

I for one am apoplectic that 60% of Americans are too stupid or brainwashed to know what POTUS' duties actually are.

I feel the same for the 40% of Americans who are too stupid or brainwashed to defend this old sack of shit on a daily basis

[jimmyjazz 45546]

15 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I feel the same for the 40% of Americans who are too stupid or brainwashed to defend this old sack of shit on a daily basis

And yet you see Donald Trump as superior.  Talk about stupid . . . you set a really high bar.

[Incredulity 11559]

But, but, but, Trump!!!!

[Bookman 4610]

Lol suck it losers. Biden kicked Trump's ass. Maybe next time don't nominate a fat corrupt failed-businessman for President.

[David Dennison 18651]

3 hours ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

I feel the same for the 40% of Americans who are too stupid or brainwashed to defend this old sack of shit on a daily basis

Joe Biden is doing fine.

He gets a C.

[jimmyjazz 45546]

17 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

But, but, but, Trump!!!!

. . . says the mouthbreather posting on a Biden thread.  Go back to your "Hillary isn't President" outhouse.

[Bookman 4610]

6 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Joe Biden is doing fine.

He gets a C.

I give him an A+ for not being Donald Trump.

[David Dennison 18651]

 

[fattyflattie 4636]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

 

But but but can’t afford a house, my loans, or a family!!!1!  

[Incredulity 11559]

19 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

. . . says the mouthbreather posting on a Biden thread.  Go back to your "Hillary isn't President" outhouse.

This is the anger stage of grief.

[Incredulity 11559]

7 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

 

Vote Democrat 2022!

It’s not THAT bad!

[jimmyjazz 45546]

1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

This is the anger stage of grief.

No, this is the truth stage of you being a worthless troll.

[Incredulity 11559]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

No, this is the truth stage of you being a worthless troll.

Milk update?

[jimmyjazz 45546]

2 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Milk update?

Bad day to ask.  $1.49 per gallon:

 

 

[Incredulity 11559]

4 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Bad day to ask.  $1.49 per gallon:

 

 

Have you shared the case cracker with Joey Jo-Jo?

[David Dennison 18651]

HOLY SHIT!!!! $1.49 a gallon?????

[jimmyjazz 45546]

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

HOLY SHIT!!!! $1.49 a gallon?????

Eh, random sale.  It's not like one can stock up.  That's a week's worth for us . . . and the price is good for . . . a week.

More importantly, @Incredulity is obsessed with my grocery shopping habits, and brings it up often, so it's always good when he steps on his tiny dick (like he just did).