2022 Poker: Ship it!

[Lurch 5,922]

genuinely curious what your "thats too much" point is in that sitation.
 
with the exception of him making it a ridic size that screams AA- KK ,what raise size could he have possibly made it that you would have actually folded pre?   
If you are calling $60 more there, you are calling $80. You had position, so whats the give up level? $105, $110?
 

Probably $125 is my threshold, but common play has been $140. Having seen that for 6+ hours, his bet to $100 just feels like a pot builder.

[Lurch 5,922]

One of the most entertaining head games I’ve ever seen. This is a $25 bomb pot. You can’t hear it, but Leo claims after he bets the flop that he hadn’t looked at his cards.

Leo is a blast. Showing the Kh was awesome

(Note, he’s the Seat 1 player we were all targeting on Saturday)

[Lurch 5,922]

Took another nice pot from Bobby.

Not sure I can bet that river, but missed some value for sure

+$700 to get me to $3k stack

[CBT 1,282]

dp

Edited January 17, 2022 by CBT

[CBT 1,282]

1 hour ago, Lurch said:

Got last night rolling with this lolwat hand
 

 

Bobby didn’t know how we were playing and he later told me that after this he knew his raises needed to be much bigger

+$700

 

Given it's only 66BBs effective, his 3bet size isn't HORRIBLE, but it's not good either. Hero almost has to call with any two. Villain needs to make it $110 to $125. 

Edited January 17, 2022 by CBT

[CBT 1,282]

1 hour ago, Lurch said:

One of the most entertaining head games I’ve ever seen. This is a $25 bomb pot. You can’t hear it, but Leo claims after he bets the flop that he hadn’t looked at his cards.
 

Leo is a blast. Showing the Kh was awesome

(Note, he’s the Seat 1 player we were all targeting on Saturday)

 

double board bomb pots or riot.

[CBT 1,282]

38 minutes ago, Lurch said:

Took another nice pot from Bobby.
 

Not sure I can bet that river, but missed some value for sure

+$700 to get me to $3k stack

 

nh. you can't bet that river I don't think. Maybe a little larger on flop and turn, but well play. damn, nice Q high call previous hand even though he's holding two diamonds. 

[Lurch 5,922]

double board bomb pots or riot.

Yeah, we’ve asked but they’re not allowed here for some reason.

[Lurch 5,922]

nice Q high call previous hand even though he's holding two diamonds. 

I bet too small and knew it the instant I dropped the chips. $200 gets it done

[Lurch 5,922]

It’s not all glory

Got to call river, but I knew…

[Lurch 5,922]

Quick steal to get half of it back

This one was too risky, but my preflop 3bet helped it work

[Lurch 5,922]

Dream flop. Damn shame turn slowed me down

Bobby made a good fold but probably should have called

+$800

[Lurch 5,922]

Biggest hand of night for me. Another bomb pot. Risky flop call, bingo on turn.

I was honestly so surprised by GKs river raise that I didn’t consider a raise size more callable than all-in. I probably missed out on another $750 maybe?

+$2k

[Lurch 5,922]

Bah!! Such a great opportunity to get Hunter, easily the best player in the game and one of the top 5 in our room.

Before folding he says he KNOWS I’m bluffing, but he doesn’t want to pay 3 streets. Fuck!

I pretty much always cbet flopped sets. I certainly know the “let them catch something” line of thinking, but just hate missing that first street of value.

[Lurch 5,922]

3rd pocket Jacks of the session

After this hand, sitting with $7700 (+$6500).

RACK UP AND GTFO, LURCH!!!!

[Lurch 5,922]

Spend 5+ hours building a stack with solid poker play, then this dude comes in late to the game and just wants to flip for $1300.

Whatever.

[dirtonia 269]

Hell ya man, love the J-10 play. I really need to work on mixing in the timely donk lead.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

went to The Lodge today for the first time, on the advice of some buddies of mine, including @TXSooner518. i had a great time, and essentially quadrupled my stack during the two hours i was there playing 1/2 NL. definitely looking forward to heading there again soon. 

[dirtonia 269]

went to The Lodge today for the first time, on the advice of some buddies of mine, including [mention=308]TXSooner518[/mention]. i had a great time, and essentially quadrupled my stack during the two hours i was there playing 1/2 NL. definitely looking forward to heading there again soon. 

It’s gonna be bumping next week for sure with the week long Doug, Brad and Andrew activities.

We need a I’m from the internet signal.

[Zwylde 812]

I’m not sure why Lurch but Wes, who has a vlog and I play with here in Houston, is breaking down some of your livestreams. 
 I’m too tired to watch right now but will try tomorrow.

 

 

 

[Lurch 5,922]

Great find! He spends a ton of time beating me up about my A9s hand at the 2:30:00 mark, not liking my river check.

Seemed a pretty obvious play to me. I probably could have paused a bit rather than insta-checking

Also, apparently I’m old because I have some grey hair.

[Lurch 5,922]

$50 double board PLO bomb pot

7 players, so $350 pot going to the flop:

AxAs4s
439 rainbow

Checks to me in UTG. I check with
AJTT rainbow. Checks to BTN who pots it. Though I only have the 4th nuts on top, the others (44, AK, AQ) are unlikely due to blockers. I’ve got nothing on the bottom, but let’s see another card! HJ joins us.

$1400 pot. 6x up top and 8x below now has the board as:

AxAs4s6x

4398r

Nothing changes on top for me, but bottom gives me an open ended straight draw. Checks to BTN who again pots it. I didn’t come this far to fold. I jam $2200. HJ folds. BTN calls. $5800 pot.

Red 7s on both boards leaves us with:

AxAs4s6x7x

43987r

BTN shows Ax8x8s5s.

On top, he also had trip Aces but with weaker kicker, and a flush draw.

On bottom, he had a gutter on flop, turned a set and failed to improve on river, while I hit my open ender.

SCOOP a massive pot! Net +$3200 is probably in top 3 profit hands for me ever

[Lurch 5,922]

Playing $5/5 PLO on todays stream. Great game so far.

[Lurch 5,922]

Currently on my 4th $1k buyin, which I’ve run up to $6500

[bigup2dahorns 3,343]

The Texas Card House (TCH) in Dallas mysteriously had its permit revoked by the city months after it was approved, but the room is still in operation and games were spread as of Friday evening.

PokerNews reached out to the Dallas City Attorney's Office for an explanation as to what violations the card room allegedly committed but we haven't yet received a response. We also contacted Ryan Crow, CEO for Texas Card House, and are awaiting a response. We'll share any information we're provided as soon as possible.

TCH issued the following statement on social media:

"As we understand the concern, we can assure you that we would honor any outstanding chips or balances for our members in the event that we are shut down. However, we feel strongly about our ability to overcome this battle and foresee this process taking a long time in the interim. One of the many perks of playing at TCH locations, we are bigger than just one location. Additionally, we back our product 100% and are committed to doing the right things by our players, staff, and community."

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/01/texas-card-house-poker-dallas-40593.htm

[CBT 1,282]

God damn it. Don’t fuck this up Dallas.

[TXSooner518 2,438]

Cue Abbott’s next tweet about how here in Texas we love freedom and support small business while millions of derps nod approvingly.

[BillyGoatHill 4,312]

12 hours ago, bigup2dahorns said:

The Texas Card House (TCH) in Dallas mysteriously had its permit revoked by the city months after it was approved, but the room is still in operation and games were spread as of Friday evening.

PokerNews reached out to the Dallas City Attorney's Office for an explanation as to what violations the card room allegedly committed but we haven't yet received a response. We also contacted Ryan Crow, CEO for Texas Card House, and are awaiting a response. We'll share any information we're provided as soon as possible.

TCH issued the following statement on social media:

"As we understand the concern, we can assure you that we would honor any outstanding chips or balances for our members in the event that we are shut down. However, we feel strongly about our ability to overcome this battle and foresee this process taking a long time in the interim. One of the many perks of playing at TCH locations, we are bigger than just one location. Additionally, we back our product 100% and are committed to doing the right things by our players, staff, and community."

https://www.pokernews.com/news/2022/01/texas-card-house-poker-dallas-40593.htm

Follow the money.

This has the BS casinos across the river written all over it. What Dallas politocos are getting a handout from up north and making this happen?

[blacklab 11,926]

At the lodge tonight and it’s busier than I’ve ever seen it other than big tournaments. 
 

polk and the other new owners are near the front glad handling and taking pictures. 

[Lurch 5,922]

$6k PLO pot from last night. This was $1k bullet #3 which I had run up to $3k

Any hesitation on jamming here?

[TXSooner518 2,438]

Def a monster flop, but with 9/10 people seeing the flop, would sure prefer a rainbow board. Just a solid chance someone has 2p w/flush draw or set w/flush draw with that many people seeing flop. 

That said, I haven't had time to watch stream and haven't played PLO bomb pots, so dunno how fast/loose people are willing to get it in. 

[Lurch 5,922]

At the lodge tonight and it’s busier than I’ve ever seen it other than big tournaments. 
 
polk and the other new owners are near the front glad handling and taking pictures. 

I’m jealous. Looks like a great room and now you have these guys pulling in soft action. Get while the gettin’s good, gentlemen

[blacklab 11,926]

Multiple people in the big o tournament “oh sorry, this is the first time I’ve played big o”

[Lurch 5,922]

I just came to meet Brad, but I did bring a few grand to light on fire while I’m here

[blacklab 11,926]

19 cash games running. 
last time I was here on a Monday there were maybe 8 running

[blacklab 11,926]

semi private game at cardroom up north tonight. BigO and PLO round and round. One super loose agressive and two calling stations playing. should be a good game, 1 seat open if you're interested.

[dirtonia 269]

Was at The Lodge last night, place was packed. There are already 17 2/5 tables running for the meetup game today.

Gonna try to make an appearance.

[AUS-97HORN 11,756]

The guys on the stream 2 nights ago mentioned the big game coming up with Doug and Brad, that several folks wanting in on the game would be bringing more money than "Skulls first Austin home cost"

[Bookman 4,638]

Say, you open UTG with AK of spades, button 3-bets, you call and you're both deep.

Flop is A-9-2 rainbow. You check, he bets 1/3 pot, you call.

Turn is a 5, bringing a backdoor heart draw. Are you ever leading this turn?

[AUS-97HORN 11,756]

1 hour ago, Bookman said:

Say, you open UTG with AK of spades, button 3-bets, you call and you're both deep.

Flop is A-9-2 rainbow. You check, he bets 1/3 pot, you call.

Turn is a 5, bringing a backdoor heart draw. Are you ever leading this turn?

if I am @TXSooner518 , I know for sure that flop nailed my opponent's only 2 ranges... either 9-2 sooted, or pocket 22.  

 

either way.... I always fold top top on the turn when nothing completes.

[TXSooner518 2,438]

1 hour ago, AUS-97HORN said:

if I am @TXSooner518 , I know for sure that flop nailed my opponent's only 2 ranges... either 9-2 sooted, or pocket 22.  

 

either way.... I always fold top top on the turn when nothing completes.

nah my opp always has A5o or 55 there haha.  

To the question, the parlay of "opponent actually has a heart draw" and "heart hits river" is far too remote to worry about leading here. 

Any reads on button?

[Lurch 5,922]

I’m 4betting pre A LOT in this specific situation.

As played, I’m never leading but I am check raising if his turn bet is 1/3rd pot or less

If he checks behind on turn, I’m clearly leading on the river in most cases but would be cautious about completed flush and straight draws that would check the turn

[TXSooner518 2,438]

11 minutes ago, Lurch said:

I’m 4betting pre A LOT in this specific situation.

As played, I’m never leading but I am check raising if his turn bet is 1/3rd pot or less

If he checks behind on turn, I’m clearly leading on the river in most cases but would be cautious about completed flush and straight draws that would check the turn

I don't hate 4-betting pre, and am basically always doing so in tourney, but when really deep in cash, it's pretty brutal to get 5-bet here, depending on reads on button obv. 

What are we trying to accomplish with turn c/r? I think we never fold out better, and worse hands will get very nervous. If the idea is to charge draws, we are going to have to go big to avoid them calling profitably and then we are really isolating against hands we have beat and losing value against worst b/c they just fold. I know I'm hating someone going check-call, check-raise in this spot if I'm BTN holding AQ or whatever.  I prefer just check-call turn to keep villain's bluffs in and avoid getting massacred when he has 99 or whatever.  

100% leading all rivers on checked turn, folding to river raise unless opp is maniac. 

[Lurch 5,922]

The point of the check raise on turn is to get more value here than we’ll get with a check on the river which will frequently be checked back

[TXSooner518 2,438]

I like check-call then lead river if we are worried about that.  I think thinking we can go check-call, check-raise, bet and get called and win with one pair is fairly optimistic, esp after we opened UTG. 

How many aces is a button 3b an UTG open with? AQ, sometimes AJs? They will sometimes fold them straight up to the turn c/r. Plus there are only two aces left in the deck, so less likely they have one. And how many hands that don't contain an ace is calling a turn c/r and losing to us?

Obv if button is either a spewtard who is relentlessly 3b pre without regard to position of the opener, OK, or if they are an insane fishcake or callbox who will just pay off a turn checkraise and river bet with like tens, carry on. 

[Lurch 5,922]

My point is you’re unlikely to get value on many rivers, whereas a lot of players will make a -ev call vs a “reasonably priced”CR on the turn in order to chase *something*. They’ll probably fold to a subsequent river bet, so at least you got a bit more value from the hand on the turn

[deac_tracy 515]

Nothing worse than somebody at your table not knowing the first thing about poker and the dealer having to explain basic rules to him. Even worse when it's two people and one of them is either drunk or stoned so the dealer has to explain the rules multiple times. Holy shit. Probably the most unpleasant experience I've ever had playing poker in a casino. One of them had a huge stack so I stayed for a while hoping to bust him. Every hand they were in though took forever so I just left. Wasn't worth it.

[shadow_operative 15,932]

went back to the lodge tonight, had another nice round of cards. i'm definitely about to become a regular lol. 

[TXSooner518 2,438]

7 hours ago, deac_tracy said:

Nothing worse than somebody at your table not knowing the first thing about poker and the dealer having to explain basic rules to him. Even worse when it's two people and one of them is either drunk or stoned so the dealer has to explain the rules multiple times. Holy shit. Probably the most unpleasant experience I've ever had playing poker in a casino. One of them had a huge stack so I stayed for a while hoping to bust him. Every hand they were in though took forever so I just left. Wasn't worth it.

how much can I bet? how much can I bet? how much can I bet? how much can I bet?

[Bookman 4,638]

Or when the action is on them and they don't know it and just sit there.