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https://abcnews.go.com/US/judge-orders-30-year-man-vacate-parents-home/story?id=55351512

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A New York judge today ordered a 30-year-old man to vacate his parents’ home after they took him to court when he refused to leave.

"I want you out of that household," New York State Supreme Court Judge Donald Greenwood told Michael Rotondo, pointing at him with his right index finger, according to ABC Syracuse affiliate WSYR-TV.

Rotondo was displeased, the station reported.

"That's outrageous," he said. He later confirmed that he plans to appeal the decision.

The judge explained that Rotondo was given numerous notices, but Rotondo tried to argue as his own attorney that he needed more time, according to WSYR.

"I don't see why we can't just wait a little bit for me to leave the house," he said to the judge.

After the judge ruled in Rotondo's parents' favor, he approached the judge's bench to ask for one last consideration.

But Greenwood told him, "Sir, I've already ruled."

Rotondo told WSYR after Greenwood's ruling that he plans to get some things from the Camillus, New York, home, adding that he wasn’t sure where he would stay now.

The judge also asked the state's protective services to check on the well-being of Michael Rotondo's parents, Christina and Mark Rotondo, according to WSYR.

Their son moved back into the home eight years ago after losing a job, he told WSYR, adding that he and his parents aren't on speaking terms. He said he now runs a “website business.”

The parents declined to comment after the judge’s ruling. Attempts to reach the parents and their attorney were unsuccessful.

They took their son to court after several failed attempts to get him out, including a cash offer of $1,100 to move his belongings and get his Volkswagen Passat off their driveway, court documents obtained by ABC News show.

Outside court, Michael Rotondo said he took the money, but didn't go on a search for a place to live, WSYR reported.

"I spent it on expenses," he said.

The parents penned several letters to him going back to February, all asking him to leave the home they say they’ve owned since 1975, according to a civil petition they filed in Odondaga County Court. But Michael Rotondo wouldn't budge.

In court, Michael Rotondo asked the judge for six months, then, after the judge disagreed with his interpretation of the case, he said he could leave sooner.

"I don't presently expect to be there three months from now," he told the judge.

Michael Rotondo said that he's "not a burden to them in the home" and the parents "don't provide laundry or food."

But the judge didn't appear convinced, at one point bringing Michael Rotondo and the parents' attorney to his bench to consider mediation.

The parent's attorney told the judge that neither Mark nor Christina Rotondo have any "obligation to provide support" to their 30-year-old son and that they are considering becoming "empty nesters" and want the option "to sell their large house and move to smaller quarters that suits their needs."

The letters included in the petition illustrate their rising frustration.

Michael Rotondo attempted to answer the claims and stated in a motion to dismiss that "he is a family member, who cannot be evicted" and cited 2006 legal case cited the 2006 case of Kosa v. Legg, placing the blame on his parents for violating law by forcing him out of their home without enough notice.

Michael Rotondo claims he hasn't "made life difficult" for his parents and that there was never any expectation on him to "contribute to household expenses" or do chores or maintain the home, the motion states.

The parents' letters to him paint a different picture.

On Feb. 2, his parents wrote him four sentences demanding "that you must leave this house immediately" and giving him two weeks "to vacate."

"You will not be allowed to return," the letter reads. "We will take whatever actions are necessary to enforce this action."

On Feb, 13, three days shy of the 14 days they promised, the parents wrote Michael Rotondo informing him that they retained an attorney.

They gave their son 30 days "to vacate the premises" and threatened a "legal procedure," if he didn't abide by the letter, the petition reads. They also warn him to refrain from "threatening or harassing action" that he might consider taking.

Then they offer Michael Rotondo the cash.

"Here is $1,100 from us to you so you can find a place to stay," they wrote in a Feb. 18 letter, included in the petition.

It came with "advice" that he start organizing his belongings and hawk the rest.

"Sell other things you have that have any significant value, (eg. stereo, some tools etc.)," the letter in the petition reads.

This applied to weapons too.

"This is especially true for any weapons you may have," the letter adds. "You need the money and will have no place for the stuff."

The letter also advises Michael Rotondo not only move out but get a job.

"There are jobs available even for those with a poor work history like you," they write in the letter. "Get one -- you have to work!"

More letters in the petition were sent in March. Each demands Michael leave and get his car fixed and off the parents' property.

 

 

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2 hours ago, UTDD said:

I seriously pray none of my children end up like this...wow.

The parents needed the courts to do their job for them.

 

The parenting should be your concern.  That's the fucking embarassment.

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It’s not incorrect at all. His parents are worthless. 

The worst part about him is that goddamned purple shirt with the tie. He looks like a youth minister from the 90s. Or a bus driver. 

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2 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

We don't really know. Sometimes people turn out to be a piece of shit regardless of the quality of parenting they get as children. 

True, just not in this case.

30, think about that number. A real parent would’ve called the cops and said get the fuck out but at the same time, a real parent wouldn’t have let that leash get so long (all the way to 30).

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1 hour ago, irishtexan said:

We don't really know. Sometimes people turn out to be a piece of shit regardless of the quality of parenting they get as children. 

And they still live at their parents’ house, yet you wouldn’t say the parents own some of that?

 

Enabling ain’t a good thing...

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A friend I grew up with had an older brother that was like this guy. His parents tried all kinds of things to chase his 25 year old unemployed ass out of the house and get a job. Put locks on the kitchen, air horns in the morning, threw away his stuff and eventually put his shit in the driveway and changed the locks.

The guy wasn't a junkie or anything, he was just a lazy bum. Dude looked pretty tattered walking around in worn out clothes, had a hairstyle like the guy in the article.

His brother is a detective with the Las Vegas Police Department and their sister is a surgeon. I don't know why he turned out to be such a slacker. He did end up moving to Vegas with his brother until his brother's girlfriend moved in.

He eventually became a casino card dealer. From what I understand, he has been doing that steadily for the past 10 years. The last time I was in Vegas we all went out, the dude acted like he ran Vegas but then expected me to pay for his drinks.

 

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4 minutes ago, Brothahorn said:

Would you take lil Irish to court, if he refused to leave home at 30? Or would you put the boot to his ass?

Being that it's NY it wouldn't surprise me a bit if it's against the law to throw an unemployed family member out on the street. Still, I'd throw the bum out and take my chances with the courts if such a situation came up with lil Diablo.

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3 hours ago, irishtexan said:

We don't really know. Sometimes people turn out to be a piece of shit regardless of the quality of parenting they get as children. 

Yeah, we do know. They took him to court and it made national news. They look like little bitch parents who are complete enablers. Dad in particular has no balls. Physically kick his ass out of the house. Hire a moving company to move his stuff and change the locks. Send him the moving company bill. This isn’t hard. If my son is “a piece of shit”, then I guarantee you I have some culpability there. Letting him live at home from 23-30 proves tremendous culpability. 

If I had a piece of shit son, a) I would know I failed as a parent and b) the last thing I would want is national attention. 

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8 minutes ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yeah, we do know. They took him to court and it made national news. They look like little bitch parents who are complete enablers. Dad in particular has no balls. Physically kick his ass out of the house. Hire a moving company to move his stuff and change the locks. Send him the moving company bill. This isn’t hard. If my son is “a piece of shit”, then I guarantee you I have some culpability there. Letting him live at home from 23-30 proves tremendous culpability. 

If I had a piece of shit son, a) I would know I failed as a parent and b) the last thing I would want is national attention. 

 

I  tend to agree, dude is a massive loser but his parents could have done plenty before it got to this point. Hell I would have been nice and even paid for the moving company bill. 

And there would have been plenty of this:

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1 hour ago, Rex Kramer said:

Physically kick his ass out of the house.

While I agree with this in theory, the "kid" looks overweight and unhealthy but has youth on his side.  Dad's got 25 more years of donut and bacon eating and likely gets winded tying his shoes.  Family probably thinks of junior as the "health nut" of the family.

 

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2 hours ago, Lhorn said:

While I agree with this in theory, the "kid" looks overweight and unhealthy but has youth on his side.  Dad's got 25 more years of donut and bacon eating and likely gets winded tying his shoes.  Family probably thinks of junior as the "health nut" of the family.

 

That "kid" looks twice the size of either of his parents.  He looks like a Sasquatch.  It's more than youth, but size as well.  I'm sure his folks are understandably a bit scared of him, but yeah, Dad should nut up.  

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3 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Yeah, we do know. They took him to court and it made national news. They look like little bitch parents who are complete enablers. Dad in particular has no balls. Physically kick his ass out of the house. Hire a moving company to move his stuff and change the locks. Send him the moving company bill. This isn’t hard. If my son is “a piece of shit”, then I guarantee you I have some culpability there. Letting him live at home from 23-30 proves tremendous culpability. 

If I had a piece of shit son, a) I would know I failed as a parent and b) the last thing I would want is national attention. 

I think there's a line between "piece of shit" and "fucking loser". The former should be treated much more harshly than the latter. Not that fucking losers deserve kid gloves.

My nephew is a fucking loser. 26, jobless, lives with his grandpa (my dad). His mom (my sister) pays for his cell phone and car insurance bills. Gramps pays all of the bills (food, utilities, cable) and throws him some gas money. He claims to be trying to find a job but I think he's conveniently applying for jobs he won't get. I've suggested to my dad and sister that he go to a temp agency like Labor Ready or Manpower and he'll get a job today. No comment from them. His plan is to wait for my dad to die, then my sister will buy me out of my half of the house and she'll let him live there. I'm really interested to see what happens when she does this. I don't think it will work out the way she thinks it will.

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4 hours ago, Sandman said:

I think there's a line between "piece of shit" and "fucking loser". The former should be treated much more harshly than the latter. Not that fucking losers deserve kid gloves.

My nephew is a fucking loser. 26, jobless, lives with his grandpa (my dad). His mom (my sister) pays for his cell phone and car insurance bills. Gramps pays all of the bills (food, utilities, cable) and throws him some gas money. He claims to be trying to find a job but I think he's conveniently applying for jobs he won't get. I've suggested to my dad and sister that he go to a temp agency like Labor Ready or Manpower and he'll get a job today. No comment from them. His plan is to wait for my dad to die, then my sister will buy me out of my half of the house and she'll let him live there. I'm really interested to see what happens when she does this. I don't think it will work out the way she thinks it will.

Your dad and sister have done him a major disservice. Where the fuck is this guy’s dad?

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7 hours ago, Rex Kramer said:

Your dad and sister have done him a major disservice. Where the fuck is this guy’s dad?

His parents divorced when he was 6 or 7. His dad is just like him, doesn't keep a job, lives off of his mother much of the time. He lives about 90 mins away but ironically, my nephew calls him a loser and has almost zero contact.  Once he went to visit and his dad asked him for some gas money. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic. 

My dad is in poor health and likes having someone around the house, in case he needs help. So I don't blame him too much. But my sister (IMO) has always been soft on her son. Now she wants to act like she's being a hard case, because she won't let him move back home. But I think it's easier for her to pay for the cell phone and car insurance bill and then walk away. 

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Today I learned the word incel. Thanks for that.

I have no idea how he was parented or why he is the way he is. It does seem like his parents have drawn a line and done what they could to get him out of the house.

I ended up be far larger and stronger than my father.  If I had been in this situation and endlessly delayed leaving his house, I doubt that he would want to add an arrest to my record by calling the police nor would he have wanted to see me physically harmed. He was not a soft man. 

Formal legal proceedings seem like the least harmful way to go when dealing with a family member who is not violent or threatening. Had I such a son, I doubt I'd want him hauled off by the police or bullied out of the house. This approach seems to be the best way to move forward.

If the son were in anyway threatening or potentially dangerous then you do what you have to to protect yourself and anyone else in the house. Even then, you must worry about retribution. He knows where you live and may do anything in his instability.

These situations seem rarely to be simple and solvable by a sock on the jaw.

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