Russia, China, Azerbaijan, Armenia move over Algeria and Morocco join the chat

[nineliveslost 2753]

More neighbors getting pissy and want in on the world stage of conflict. 

The world is just itching for a fight. FFS

 

Algeria prepares for war with Morocco, panics due to Israel - report (msn.com)

[Guest Lobo]

If this finally settles, once and for all, that annoying dotted line at the top of Western Sahara between these two nations...then I'm all for it. 

Thoughts & Prayers in the interim.

[nineliveslost 2753]

I just have this eerie feeling dominoes are being setup and when one falls, they all start falling. Certain countries are just waiting for other shots to be fired so their conflict won't be front page, and then they start shooting.  

[Guest Lobo]

3 minutes ago, nineliveslost said:

I just have this eerie feeling dominoes are being setup and when one falls, they all start falling. Certain countries are just waiting for other shots to be fired so their conflict won't be front page, and then they start shooting.  

Fair point and things are tilting that way it seems.  You can also add the United States to your list of "Belligerent Nations of Concern."  Only we're not invading anyone this time.  

[nineliveslost 2753]

1 minute ago, Lobo said:

Fair point and things are tilting that way it seems.  You can also add the United States to your list of "Belligerent Nations of Concern."  Only we're not invading anyone this time.  

Oh trust me, I know the US has their pecker in most warm "issues"

Sooner or later this shit is going to go hot and everyone walks away with herpes

[Js1 85275]

Just now, nineliveslost said:

Oh trust me, I know the US has their pecker in most warm "issues"

Sooner or later this shit is going to go hot and everyone walks away with herpes

Lubbock is going to ground zero for the next attack? 

[atomheartbevo 89626]

37 minutes ago, nineliveslost said:

Algeria prepares for war with Morocco, panics due to Israel - report (msn.com)

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The news outlet quoted sources close to the Algerian military who said, “Algeria does not want war with Morocco,

[nineliveslost 2753]

yea, people are just looking for a reason to go to war. Fuck. covid, inflation and war. Just waiting for the horsemen to start the ride ....

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

I'm not going to sweat it until Monaco mobilizes.

[Superhero 8827]

5 hours ago, nineliveslost said:

I just have this eerie feeling dominoes are being setup and when one falls, they all start falling. Certain countries are just waiting for other shots to be fired so their conflict won't be front page, and then they start shooting.  

$10 Russia is involved in this somehow.

Misdirection scenarios 1 thru 99: Algerian tests border with Morocco. Russian invades Ukraine 5 days later. 

[Guest Lobo]

Russia would not engage with a misinformation campaign, okay?!?  They are not currently posturing a false-flag operation on their own troops to setup a Ukrainian invasion, nor stirring shit up in Kazakhstan.  Nor anything fishy in Belarus or the Baltic States, okay?  You think we're so innocent?  They would not do stuff like that.  Putin is an admirable world leader who would never meddle in the affairs of a sovereign state, through conventional nor digital means.  Why does Russia keep getting dragged into y'all's conspiracy theories on geopolitics?  

[Drunk Stoner 63]

3 hours ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

I'm not going to sweat it until Monaco mobilizes.

Somebody mention Monaco?

 

[ztejas 43411]

I'm not sure what "domino" you think Algeria and Morocco represents. I guess it could sort of be a proxy-war but I'm not really sure who the actual global powers would be aligned with here. I hear Israel and Palestine still aren't getting along.

[Armybrat 40822]

11 hours ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

I'm not going to sweat it until Monaco mobilizes.

San Marino ain’t skeered, but France is getting nervous.

[Armybrat 40822]

7 hours ago, ztejas said:

I'm not sure what "domino" you think Algeria and Morocco represents. I guess it could sort of be a proxy-war but I'm not really sure who the actual global powers would be aligned with here. I hear Israel and Palestine still aren't getting along.

They play Ludo in Algeria anyway.

[nineliveslost 2753]

7 hours ago, ztejas said:

I'm not sure what "domino" you think Algeria and Morocco represents. I guess it could sort of be a proxy-war but I'm not really sure who the actual global powers would be aligned with here. I hear Israel and Palestine still aren't getting along.

maybe poorly worded by me. I was just meaning that there seems to be numerous conflicts around the globe just setting up for something. Almost like they are waiting for an excuse to fight and then they all join the party. 

 

Looks like Jordan, Syria and drug lords want in on the chat 

Killing of Jordanian soldier puts Amman, Damascus in a bind - analysis (msn.com)

 

or maybe it's all posturing and just a dick measuring contest. A lot of folks closely eyeing each other.

[Guest]

17 hours ago, Js1 said:

Lubbock is going to ground zero for the next attack? 

The pilots had better be really good.  Tallest building is 20 stories...

[Armybrat 40822]

[nineliveslost 2753]

Saudi, UAE and Houthis join the chat

No one wants to be left out of the party 

Saudi coalition strikes Houthis after drone attack on UAE (msn.com)

Iran will retaliate and they will join the chat soon

 

Crazy world

[Dnaguy 11920]

 

You can strike Azerbaijan off the list of conflicts.

 

 

 

Nagorno-Karabakh's 120,000 Armenians will leave for Armenia, leadership says | Reuters

 

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Nagorno-Karabakh's 120,000 Armenians will leave for Armenia, leadership says

By Felix Light and Guy Faulconbridge

September 24, 20239:54 AM CDTUpdated 26 min ago

 

Summary

Ethnic Armenians to leave Karabakh - leadership

120,000 people could move into Armenia

Some heavily laden cars leave Karabakh

Russian peacekeepers to escort refugees

Humanitarian aid starts to arrive

NEAR KORNIDZOR, Armenia, Sept 24 (Reuters) - The 120,000 ethnic Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh will leave for Armenia as they do not want to live as part of Azerbaijan and fear ethnic cleansing, the leadership of the breakaway region told Reuters on Sunday.

Armenia's Prime Minister also said the Karabakh Armenians were likely to leave the region, and that Armenia was ready to take them in, following a defeat last week at the hands of Azerbaijan in a conflict dating to the fall of the Soviet Union.

 

 

The Armenians of Karabakh - a territory internationally recognised as part of Azerbaijan but previously beyond Baku's control - were forced to declare a ceasefire on Sept. 20 after a lightning 24-hour military operation by the much larger Azerbaijani military.

Azerbaijan says it will guarantee their rights and integrate the region, but the Armenians say they fear repression.

"Our people do not want to live as part of Azerbaijan. Ninety-nine point nine percent prefer to leave our historic lands," David Babayan, an adviser to Samvel Shahramanyan, president of the self-styled Republic of Artsakh, told Reuters.

 

"The fate of our poor people will go down in history as a disgrace and a shame for the Armenian people and for the whole civilised world," Babayan said. "Those responsible for our fate will one day have to answer before God for their sins."

The Armenian leaders of Karabakh said in a statement that all those made homeless by the Azerbaijani military operation and wanting to leave would be escorted to Armenia by Russian peacekeepers.

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Reuters reporters near the village of Kornidzor on the Armenian border saw some heavily laden cars pass into Armenia. One of the drivers said they were from Nagorno-Karabakh.

It was unclear when the bulk of the population would move down the Lachin corridor which links the territory to Armenia, where Prime Minister Nikol Pashinyan has faced calls to resign for failing to save Karabakh.

MASS EXODUS

In an address to the nation, Pashinyan said some humanitarian aid had arrived but the Armenians of Karabakh still faced "the danger of ethnic cleansing".

"If proper conditions are not created for the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh to live in their homes and there are no effective protection mechanisms against ethnic cleansing, the likelihood is rising that the Armenians of Nagorno-Karabakh will see exile from their homeland as the only way to save their lives and identity," Pashinyan said, according to an official transcript.

A mass exodus could change the delicate balance of power in the South Caucasus region, a patchwork of ethnicities crisscrossed with oil and gas pipelines where Russia, the United States, Turkey and Iran are jostling for influence.

Last week's Azerbaijani victory appears to bring a decisive end to one of the decades-old "frozen conflicts" of the Soviet Union's dissolution. President Ilham Aliyev said his "iron fist" had consigned the idea of an independent ethnic Armenian Karabakh to history and that the region would be turned into a "paradise" as part of Azerbaijan.

Armenia says more than 200 people were killed and 400 wounded in the Azerbaijani military operation. The fate of the ethnic Armenian population has raised concerns in Moscow, Washington and Brussels.

FIRST KARABAKH WAR

Nagorno-Karabakh, known as Artsakh by Armenians, lies in an area that over centuries has come under the sway of Persians, Turks, Russians, Ottomans and Soviets. It was claimed by both Azerbaijan and Armenia after the fall of the Russian Empire in 1917. In Soviet times it was designated an autonomous region within Azerbaijan.

As the Soviet Union crumbled, the Armenians there threw off nominal Azeri control and captured neighbouring territory in what is now known as the First Karabakh War. From 1988-1994 about 30,000 people were killed and more than a million people, mostly Azeris, displaced.

In 2020, after decades of skirmishes, Azerbaijan, backed by Turkey, won a decisive 44-day Second Karabakh War, recapturing territory in and around Karabakh. That war ended with a Russian-brokered peace deal, which Armenians accuse Moscow of failing to guarantee.

The Armenian authorities in the region said late on Saturday that about 150 tons of humanitarian cargo from Russia and another 65 tons of flour shipped by the International Committee of the Red Cross had arrived in the region.

With 2,000 peacekeepers in the region, Russia said that under the terms of the ceasefire six armoured vehicles, more than 800 small arms, anti-tank weapons and portable air defence systems, as well as 22,000 ammunition rounds, had been handed in by Saturday.

Space for 40,000 people from Karabakh had been prepared in Armenia. Azerbaijan, which is mainly Muslim, has said the Armenians, who are Christian, can leave if they want.

Pashinyan blamed Russia publicly on Sunday for failing to do enough for Armenia which he said would review its alliance with Moscow.

"Some of our partners are increasingly making efforts to expose our security vulnerabilities, putting at risk not only our external, but also internal, security and stability, while violating all norms of etiquette and correctness in diplomatic and interstate relations, including obligations assumed under treaties," Pashinyan said in his Sunday address.

Russian officials say Pashinyan is to blame for his own mishandling of the crisis, and have repeatedly said that Armenia, which borders Turkey, Iran, Azerbaijan and Georgia, has few other friends in the region.

Reporting by Felix Light near Kornidzor, Armenia, and Guy Faulconbridge in Moscow; Writing by Lidia Kelly and Guy Faulconbridge; Editing by Peter Graff and David Holmes

 

 

[Brisketexan 105065]

The first war (early 90s) was no joke. The Armenians still refer to it as “the dark times.” As just one thing, a lot of their power came through or from Azerbaijan. So, for years, electricity was scarce. As a result, formerly wooded parts of the countryside are now bare, because the Armenians cut down all the fucking trees to burn for warmth and cooking. Shitty and stupid war.

[Viper 12103]

with Russian "peacekeepers" leading the 120,000, I wonder how many of the Armenians end up in Ukraine fighting for the Russian army

Edited September 24, 2023 by Viper

[atomheartbevo 89626]

1 hour ago, Viper said:

with Russian "peacekeepers" leading the 120,000, I wonder how many of the Armenians end up in Ukraine fighting for the Russian army

If Russia tries to kidnaps Armenians to fight in Ukraine, I don't think it would go that well for the Russians these days.  Those people are fucking pissed at the Russians.