Dallas Cowboys 2022 Offseason Thread -- Every Time Jerrah Talks, an Angel Sheds Their Wings

[LTtxfan 49200]

Ty played for Indiana

 

 

Edited April 30, 2022 by LTtxfan

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[LTtxfan 49200]

2022 Dallas Cowboys Undrafted Free Agents

• Florida A&M S Markquese Bell (via Florida A&M Football)
• UCF EDGE Big Kat Bryant (via Tom Pelissero)
• Georgia Tech S Juanyeh Thomas (via Tom Pelissero)
• USC CB Isaac Taylor-Stuart (via Matt Zenitz)
• Indiana WR Ty Fryfogle (via Doug Kyed)
• Texas A&M Commerce OL Amon Simon (via Aaron Wilson)
• Harvard RB Aaron Shampklin (via Tom Pelissero)
• Boston College C Alec Lindstrom (via Jennifer Toland)
• Texas Tech K Jonathan Garibay (via Texas Tech Football)
• Ole Miss WR Dontario Drummond (via Mike Kaye)
• TCU S La’Kendrick Van Zandt (via Tom Pelissero)
• Texas A&M LB Aaron Hansford (via Aaron Wilson)
• BYU C James Empey (via James Empey)

Last Updated: Saturday, April 30th at 7:59pm ET

[taybo20 2851]

I hope big kat Bryant makes the team…he could be a sleeper edge

[DougO 5250]

I'd like to see them sign Chase Allen, who was overshadowed by Kolar at ISU. He's got skills.

[LTtxfan 49200]

6 minutes ago, DougO said:

I'd like to see them sign Chase Allen, who was overshadowed by Kolar at ISU. He's got skills.

 

[Patrick Bateman 3916]

10 minutes ago, taybo20 said:

I hope big kat Bryant makes the team…he could be a sleeper edge

Don't hold your breath.  He's a pretty poor athlete and his technique is underwhelming as well.  Cool nickname.

 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

great get, if you aren’t going to draft the kid from lsu 

[gsoda3 3262]

That kicker from tech is a really good get. Strong leg and very very accurate.

[taybo20 2851]

3 hours ago, Patrick Bateman said:

Don't hold your breath.  He's a pretty poor athlete and his technique is underwhelming as well.  Cool nickname.

 

Ouch…well he played well against Alabama..lol

[Guest]

On 4/28/2022 at 10:19 PM, conVINCEd said:

So you’re good with Stephen when Jerry dies? Stephen may be worse.

Stephen isn’t worse. Or at least he’s more subtle. Jerry is a narcissistic bad person. It will never change under him - we will never have sustained success or win 2 games in the same playoffs. With Stephen, you might have a dipshit and a bad guy too, but it’s not apparent. Jerry needs to die. 

[Hate 20108]

Stephen will luck into a Super Bowl every once in a while simply because he knows he isn't the smartest person in any room he walks into.  Jerry always thinks he is the smartest person in any room that he walks into. That might be true in business as he is clearly very good at making money, but he is pretty fucking stupid when it comes to building a football team.  The last 29 years have shown us that.

[futureman 22469]

8 hours ago, Porterhouse said:

Stephen isn’t worse.

Stephen is worse. He is dumber than his father and yet seems to be more sure of himself. It’s not a good thing for the next 25 years of the franchise. 

[futureman 22469]

7 hours ago, Hate said:

Stephen will luck into a Super Bowl every once in a while simply because he knows he isn't the smartest person in any room he walks into.

I say he will win zero Super Bowls. 

[LTtxfan 49200]

        Jon Machota      @jonmachota

Undrafted rookie free agents signing with the Cowboys:

 

 

9:03 PM · Apr 30, 2022·Twitter for iPhone

 

 

[Pato del Muerto 52507]

Maybe hansford can play TE

[futureman 22469]

ranking the draft before the players play is stupid, but, Kiper ranked cowboys’ draft tied for dead last. 

[pacman 7357]

pff.com

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DALLAS COWBOYS

R1 (24) — T Tyler Smith, Tulsa
R2 (56) — EDGE Sam Williams, Mississippi
R3 (88) — WR Jalen Tolbert, South Alabama
R4 (129) — TE Jake Ferguson, Wisconsin
R5 (155) — T Matt Waletzko, North Dakota
R5 (167) — CB DaRon Bland, Fresno State
R5 (176) — LB Damone Clark, LSU
R5 (178) — DI John Ridgeway, Arkansas
R6 (193) — LB Devin Harper, Oklahoma State

Day 1: Smith has been on a meteoric rise in recent months. Arguably the most violent offensive lineman at the Group of Five level, he led the nation in big-time run-blocks a season ago. His grip strength and power are a sight to see — once his hands get locked into the defender’s pads, it’s game over. The Tulsa product earned a 92.1 PFF grade that ranked fourth among FBS tackles in 2021. He was even better from Week 6 on, too, as he graded out at 94.2 over the back half of the season. Smith is going to have a steep learning curve to start, but he is young at just 21 years old.

Day 2: Ole Miss’ Sam Williams has an insane get-off for an edge product who stands at 6-foot-4, 261 pounds. His 4.46-second 40-yard dash ranked 98th percentile among players at his position, but his play strength is massively lacking. He earned a career-high 78.1 PFF grade this past season but needs to develop counters in the NFL if he’s going to consistently create pressure on the quarterback.

While there are concerns with the competition level and being a one-trick pony, Tolbert is very good value late on Day 2. The 6-foot-2, 194-pound wide receiver was one of the top deep threats of 2021. He was responsible for 646 deep receiving yards this season, the fifth-most in the FBS. Tolbert was the go-to guy in South Alabama’s offense, and he made the most of those opportunities by generating 3.16 yards per route run. His deep speed and ball skills will be a good addition to the Cowboys’ receiving room.

Day 3: Waletzko’s developmental traits are as good as you’ll see in this tackle class. With a 7-foot-1 wingspan and nimble feet, he’s the project NFL teams want and has the tape of an offensive lineman with solid upside. Waletzko graded above 70.0 in five of his nine games this past season.

Draft Grade: B+

 

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

ranking the draft before the players play is stupid, but, Kiper ranked cowboys’ draft tied for dead last. 

If I’m ranking draft guys and how much I trust each one, kiper might be tied for dead last. The grades have been all over the place but the guys I trust have it closer to a B. 

[pacman 7357]

1 hour ago, futureman said:

ranking the draft before the players play is stupid, but, Kiper ranked cowboys’ draft tied for dead last. 

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So the takeaway here is that there is pretty much no relationship between draft grades and future value at all.

https://www.footballoutsiders.com/stat-analysis/2020/historic-draft-grades

[Sawbonz 27565]

22 hours ago, DougO said:

He is expected to make a full recovery.

[Catdaddyhorn 3446]

On 4/30/2022 at 2:42 PM, Vic Mackey said:

Or. People know Dallas front office is a bunch of hillbilly morons and are easy to fleece on both sides of trades. The same front office who gave up what they did for Joey Galloway and then Roy Williams. I don't care what you say, you can not convince me a talent like Cooper can not get more than a 5th round pick. They knew Dallas did not want to keep him and were desperate. So they offloaded him at the very first offer they got. Cleveland got a damn good player for absolutely nothing. 5th round picks are extreme long shots to be worth a damn. 

Spin it all you want. This front office is dogshit. 

Cowboys haven't traded a player that returned a top 3 round draft pick since the Hershel Walker trade. They're the only team in the league to go even a decade with this sort of drought.  Conversely they've traded for a number of players over this time period for 1st round picks.  You'd think that an owner would take the lessons learned from the most successful period of his ownership and utilize those tools again, but Jerry has taken that lesson and done the exact opposite. 

Edited May 2, 2022 by Catdaddyhorn

[futureman 22469]

what’s the knock on devin harper? runs a 4.4 and jumps 40” and has 95 tackles including 11 TFL and doesn’t even get a combine invite?

[DougO 5250]

3 hours ago, futureman said:

what’s the knock on devin harper? runs a 4.4 and jumps 40” and has 95 tackles including 11 TFL and doesn’t even get a combine invite?

Don't really know, but seems like he is viewed as a bit of a project. Traditional LBs that aren't edge rushers tend to be cheap in the draft, so some decent talent gets drafted late or not at all. Here's a profile from before the draft 

https://cowboyswire.usatoday.com/lists/devin-harper-nfl-draft-profile-cowboys/

 

[Pato del Muerto 52507]

And he didn’t take that bet with moss, and dammit he knew he should have.  Won’t let that happen again. 

[Texzilla58 4738]

Jimmy did things like pioneer the draft pack valuation charts so he’d have some objective way to analyze trade opportunities, creatively structured deals like the Herschel trade to get more picks, and generally just played the odds with getting tons of picks and cutting deadweight quickly.
Jerry gambles.  He does it in various ways.  Two first rounders for a WR (repeatedly, like every 7 years or so he does this)?  Sure, I bet that guy is the missing piece.  Draft prospects who theoretically have high upside but an injury or character flaw weighing against them?  Jerry is all over that because it’s a bet.
Jimmy acted like the house at the casino.  Jerry spins the roulette wheel.

People forget that Jimmy got his degree in industrial psychology and his brain is a a big as his hair. He is a student of all kinds of game theory and figured out the best way to win at the draft was to have more picks than others. Back then we didn’t have free agency.

Jerry is a true wild Carter and lives on guts. His crew takes three steps forward then one back. I have no issues with this draft. I think Tyler smith will be a player.

My issues are with how Stephen manages free agency. The cooper add was ok; the exit was clownshows. Not getting a center in FA was stupid. Letting Lael go. Instead of moving to guard was stupid.

[Catdaddyhorn 3446]

21 hours ago, longhornmatt said:

Jimmy did things like pioneer the draft pack valuation charts so he’d have some objective way to analyze trade opportunities, creatively structured deals like the Herschel trade to get more picks, and generally just played the odds with getting tons of picks and cutting deadweight quickly.

Jerry gambles.  He does it in various ways.  Two first rounders for a WR (repeatedly, like every 7 years or so he does this)?  Sure, I bet that guy is the missing piece.  Draft prospects who theoretically have high upside but an injury or character flaw weighing against them?  Jerry is all over that because it’s a bet.

Jimmy acted like the house at the casino.  Jerry spins the roulette wheel.

The guy who actually came up with the draft pick valuation chart was a Petroleum engineer from the university of Arkansas. I forgot his name,  but "It's Just Banter" discussed him on a recent podcast episode. 

[TotallyLegit 3053]

 

[Pato del Muerto 52507]

If that’s 14 names as 1st round grades, and you are selecting 24th, don’t you do everything in your power to trade up to the top 15 or back out of the first round?

if up is prohibitively expensive, then move back. Even if the value isn’t there with the return, there’s no reason to take a 2nd rounder and pay him first round money. 

[totallynotabuttpirate 5400]

18 minutes ago, TotallyLegit said:

 

Not bad, I expected a lot more injured guys. 

[DougO 5250]

HA! Bob Sturm should comply and reduce the sports media world of one less blowhard. Never underestimate the cluelessness of Cowboys brass, but even more clueless of the useless fanboy fake expert media.

 

Cowboys’ Tyler Smith calls reporter who claimed he’d retire if Smith got drafted

 

by Lauren Barash7 hours ag

For most Dallas Cowboys fans, Tulsa OT Tyler Smith was not a name they expected to hear called for the 24th overall pick. There were several other Cowboys favorites at offensive line as well as wide receivers they were rumored to potentially trade up for. Ironically, the morning of the 2022 NFL Draft, ESPN’s Mel Kiper picked Smith for Dallas in his final mock draft, which caused an uproar among many fans.

It also didn’t sit well with local Dallas radio personality Bob Sturm. Sturm is a sports talk show host for Dallas sports radio staton “The Ticket.” When he heard about Kiper’s choice, he tweeted out that he would retire if the Cowboys selected Smith after covering the team for over 20 years. Well, as we now all know, that tweet majorly backfired hours later. The radio host jokingly tweeted that “it’s been a great run” to his followers and also shared some videos that sparked his concern about Smith. He, unsurprisingly, didn’t retire, though.

Several news outlets quickly picked up the story and Sturm essentially went viral for his take. As if that weren’t entertaining enough, the Cowboys’ first-round pick himself decided to call the radio host the next day – a testament to the Tulsa product’s humor and enjoyable personality.

If they take Tyler Smith in Round 1, I will submit my retirement papers. #WinWin https://t.co/AhM6paHJRN

— Bob Sturm (@SportsSturm) April 28, 2022

 

After radio host Bob Sturm said he’d retire if Tyler Smith got drafted by the Cowboys, the Dallas draftee called into his radio show

Smith was a good sport about it and poked fun at Sturm.

“Is that Bob I heard? I’m surprised you clocked in today, man. I saw some things on my social. I thought you were taking a forever leave of absence there.”

Instead of being salty, the radio host owned up to his mistake. He tried to explain himself to the Cowboys’ draft pick.

“Well, you know what, I deserve every bit of it. I got it wrong, and the Cowboys did take you in the first round, and good for you! We’re happy for you, man. Let me come clean, let me not turtle on this, I see you as a player as a bit of a developing thing. You’re the youngest player in the draft, right?”

To be fair to Sturm, he’s right. That’s why most people didn’t want to see Smith get drafted. He’s raw, was flagged a lot, and just turned 21 years old on April 3. Most thought the Cowboys would go with a sure-fire Week 1 starter with their first-round pick. Smith and the hosts went on to talk about his path to Tulsa, his journey with Blount’s disease, and more. You can listen to the full interview, here.

[Texzilla58 4738]

If that’s 14 names as 1st round grades, and you are selecting 24th, don’t you do everything in your power to trade up to the top 15 or back out of the first round?
if up is prohibitively expensive, then move back. Even if the value isn’t there with the return, there’s no reason to take a 2nd rounder and pay him first round money. 

This happens every year. There’s usually less than 20 round 1 grades every year. This year if everyone is trading down then the values added going down aren’t worth it, and it’s rare the salary is a consideration. It’s about the situation unfolding. They had Smith as their 16. With zero QBs taken previous, a run on o linemen, drops on certain players, they got the guy they wanted.

Why was he a 2? He’s the youngest kid in the draft at 21. He projected as the #1 tackle in the 23 draft had he stayed at Tulsa. He has incredible hand strength and upper body leverage and is a mailer who puts folks on the ground. He struggled in space which is an experience thing ( and where most of his holds happened) but also not a problem at guard. Being 21 is a huge advantage as you might keep him for 15-17 years if he pans out. In the first round you also get a fifth year option. So he’s a mean mother like Martin. He’s 21 like Tyron Smith. And a high 2 like Frederick. I like the pick the more I read on him.

And their biggest need is rebuilding that oline. All teams factor need and bpa and a bunch of other factors. Pure bpa is a media myth.

I loved his handling of the media and just humbling Sturm. He’s a Ft Worth kid and knows the Ticket. I think this is going to be a great pick in the long run.

[Loch Ness Monster 3533]

15 hours ago, TotallyLegit said:

 

Damn. Giants got the top 2 on the Cowboys board.

[youdunnf'dup 2147]

23 hours ago, TotallyLegit said:

 

If this happened with any other organization, that guy would be fired immediately. Here, it’s the owner that’s the dipshit and shows it to everyone. We are a clown show 

[futureman 22469]

 

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9 minutes ago, futureman said:

 

Johnny Walker Blue or New Roosevelt driving?

[SurlyBDR 22801]

32 minutes ago, futureman said:

 

Why didn't you tell us about this earlier 

[Vic Mackey 47058]

He was on Harry Hines

 

[futureman 22469]

not the whore part of harry hines

[DalTxHornFan 3102]

8 minutes ago, futureman said:

not the whore part of harry hines

The Nick & Sam's part of Harry Hines.

[Pato del Muerto 52507]

So they took him to parkland?

[futureman 22469]

4 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So they took him to parkland?

yes

[gsoda3 3262]

On 5/3/2022 at 7:21 PM, Pato del Muerto said:

If that’s 14 names as 1st round grades, and you are selecting 24th, don’t you do everything in your power to trade up to the top 15 or back out of the first round?

if up is prohibitively expensive, then move back. Even if the value isn’t there with the return, there’s no reason to take a 2nd rounder and pay him first round money. 

everyone else had the same idea.

[Vic Mackey 47058]

[Hermanator 7072]

6 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

So they took him to parkland?

 

Edited May 5, 2022 by Hermanator

[Hate 20108]

Hears Jerry Jones was in a car wreck??

Realizes it was only a fender bender.

[Guest]

6 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

The Nick & Sam's part of Harry Hines.

Ha last time I was there Jerry was at a table with Tones Romes. About 3 years ago. 

I was hoping Jerry might have some complications that he’d soon die from, and I’m not kidding. 

[tokamak 6431]

Jerry Jones drives his own car? What the fuck?

[Vic Mackey 47058]

[Guest]

I don't know shit about the lions beyond their stars.

Lotsa folks who aren't Dallas fans sure do keep up with the Pokes.   It's creepy AF.

Edited May 6, 2022 by slorch