AFC: Bills v Chiefs

[bullet 1596]

I was rooting for Buffalo.  Up until 1998 there were only 6 Super Bowls that were the least bit interesting.

III Baltimore Colts beat Dallas

X Pittsburg beat Dallas

XIII Pittsburg beat Dallas

XVI San Francisco beat Cincinnati

XXIII San Francisco beat Cincinnati

XXV NY Giants beat Buffalo

Both times Cincinnati made the Super Bowl they had to get through Buffalo.  And San Francisco may be the NFC representative.

Naturally, Dallas and Cincinnati were my favorite teams during that era.

 

 

[TonyTexas 10482]

 

[RPM 26230]

1 hour ago, Underdog said:

Weed is against the rules, sir.  

Well, there are rules and there are rules...

[Surly Bevo 24696]

12 minutes ago, TonyTexas said:

 

I believe the appropriate cliche here is, "be careful what you wish for"

[dcar00 14035]

the Bills DC should be fired.  how do you let Kelce have a free release in that situation?  He also had safeties playing way too deep.  KC is not throwing deep in that situation.

[GTX Horn 1707]

 

[staboner 4959]

4 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

 

[Satchel 6908]

Didn’t the Chiefs used to be the Dallas Texans? Go Patrick! Go Chiefs!

[staboner 4959]

i just rewatched the rams bucs highlights. holy hell that was one of the most insane 4th quarters i have ever seen. till this one. wow

[closetohumping 17404]

Best game I've seen in a while  Damn shame Allen didn't get a second chance.

[Captain Ron 12805]

 

[Captain Ron 12805]

29 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

 

 

[immamac 42519]

33 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

 

3 timeouts. not fair.

[BluTechsan 393]

2 hours ago, Helobious said:

It should be whoever got the most total yards in regulation, or some other performance-based stat.

This is actually a pretty decent solution.

[BluTechsan 393]

I’m too late to edit my post above.

I just want to clarify that I’d be in favor of the total yards determination to replace the coin flip in OT - not for it to determine the game  winner.

(yes I understand that changing the method in which 1st possession is established would probably not change the frequency in which 1st possession holders win the game)

 

[WBT 20422]

Total yards?  Penetrations or gtfo

[Jiggy-Z 3432]

8 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

Fun fact, the only state title my hometown has won in high school football was back in the year I was born, 1984.  In the semifinals they beat Westlake (who was the huge favorite, obviously) on penetrations.  /coolstarrybra

Wrong year, Joey Sweetwater.  The answer you are looking for is 1986.

[Jiggy-Z 3432]

Crazy divisional round. 3 upsets and all four games with walkoff scores for the wins with none of the final drives in regulation being ho hum clock milking time killers.

The only thing that could have made it more exiting is have those game winning field goals not be tie breakers.

[52-80 19096]

who's that guy on this site who was a big josh allen homer?

got to give it to him, the winter soldier was pretty meatyochre for his first 2 years and now top tier status

[Kennythetiger 9335]

@The Virginian  I don’t remember him being much of a homer, I think he’s a big Wyoming fan and kept saying that Josh Allen is pretty good. 

[MNLonghornFUKM 8799]

 

Buffalo went to prevent on the first play and it takes tyreek 1.2 seconds to run 25 yards.

I mean they probably should’ve literally mauled hill at the line, double Kelce and just take defensive holding penalties at 5 yards a clip while taking 3-5 seconds off the clock each play.

[Landomatic 3813]

9 hours ago, DougO said:

Overtime rules in NFL are fine.

[52-80 19096]

NFL OT sucks rusted pipe.

[PittsburghTiger 6137]

9 hours ago, bullet said:

I was rooting for Buffalo.  Up until 1998 there were only 6 Super Bowls that were the least bit interesting.

III Baltimore Colts beat Dallas

X Pittsburg beat Dallas

XIII Pittsburg beat Dallas

XVI San Francisco beat Cincinnati

XXIII San Francisco beat Cincinnati

XXV NY Giants beat Buffalo

Both times Cincinnati made the Super Bowl they had to get through Buffalo.  And San Francisco may be the NFC representative.

Naturally, Dallas and Cincinnati were my favorite teams during that era.

 

 

PittsburgH. There is an h at the end.

[Guest]

and back then, most often a W

[Steamboat1874 4032]

34 minutes ago, 52-80 said:

NFL OT sucks rusted pipe.

Play some fucking defense if you want to win the game.

Buffalo did not deserve another chance.

They gave up 45 or so yards in 13 seconds to get tied and then could not stop KC in OT.

OT rules are just fine in the NFL.

[Quagmire 2146]

Play some fucking defense if you want to win the game.
Buffalo did not deserve another chance.
They gave up 45 or so yards in 13 seconds to get tied and then could not stop KC in OT.
OT rules are just fine in the NFL.

Except the rules are heavily favored towards the offense. Both defenses were giving up big plays , if buffalo wins the toss they probably win the game .

[4th&Five 41461]

9 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Play some fucking defense if you want to win the game.

Buffalo did not deserve another chance.

They gave up 45 or so yards in 13 seconds to get tied and then could not stop KC in OT.

OT rules are just fine in the NFL.

The Chiefs gave up 15 points in 2 minutes. It was decided on a coin toss. 

[52-80 19096]

8 minutes ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Play some fucking defense if you want to win the game.

Buffalo did not deserve another chance.

They gave up 45 or so yards in 13 seconds to get tied and then could not stop KC in OT.

uh, so why didn't KC play enough defense build and maintain a lead at the expiration of regulation play?

the point is both team should have equal opportunities to perform. 

[Codaxx 5602]

4 minutes ago, Quagmire said:

Except the rules are heavily favored towards the offense. Both defenses were giving up big plays , if buffalo wins the toss they probably win the game .

I dont know why they just dont play another quarter. That seems like a simple solution. 

[tbone_ 14025]

I dont know why they just dont play another quarter. That seems like a simple solution. 

Play 7 min quarters until there’s a winner.

[BB65 476]

Whats wrong with giving each team a possession, after that first team that scores. If KC had kicked a FG, Bills would have gotten a possession. The game only ended because KC scored a TD.

[Horn80 6075]

Don’t like current OT rules but think the Buffalo coach blew the game by kicking off to end zone and ;not taking any time off the clock with only 13 seconds left. 

[Codaxx 5602]

6 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

Don’t like current OT rules but think the Buffalo coach blew the game by kicking off to end zone and ;not taking any time off the clock with only 13 seconds left. 

Could have squibbed it, but honestly WTF on the Kelce play? They gave up 50 yards in 13 seconds and didnt force KC to make a play. They gave them easy yards that was terrible. Do you need a pass rush when you know the pass is going to be thrown in 3 seconds? 

[Horn80 6075]

1 minute ago, Codaxx said:

Could have squibbed it, but honestly WTF on the Kelce play? They gave up 50 yards in 13 seconds and didnt force KC to make a play. They gave them easy yards that was terrible. Do you need a pass rush when you know the pass is going to be thrown in 3 seconds? 

Yep, don’t get the coverage on Kelce at all but at least on squib kick there is the possibility of a fumble and ensuing scrum which can burn a lot of time.  

[Moby Ric 2058]

Oilers fan says fuck the Bills forever.  Glad to see them lose again.  And if you want to cry about the rules.  Stop the other team from scoring and moving the ball.  Bills had plenty of chances to stop them.  Hill scores on an incredible play, 13 seconds and a field goal, and then a TD again in OT.  KC deserved it, and Mahomes is flat out Superman.

"When things look grim, be the Grim Reaper"  Andy Reid.

Loved seeing Tenn get beat, fuck Bud Adams, loved seeing Buffalo get Beat, fuck the Bills.

[CooterBrown 17913]

When your opponent's offensive is unstoppable, maybe the move it to do an onside kick and have a chance at recovery.

[Bevo 13527]

Just now, CooterBrown said:

When your opponent's offensive is unstoppable, maybe the move it to do an onside kick and have a chance at recovery.

[Steamboat1874 4032]

Sorry but defense is part of the game just like the offense.

Make a fucking stop. 

[B00M 6280]

10 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

I believe the appropriate cliche here is, "be careful what you wish for"

Huh? Just because they benefited from the rule this time doesn't mean he wouldn't support a rule change today. 

The one thing the NFL playoff rule has going for it is peak excitement at the final moment. A walk off TD is clearly a better finish than a failed 4th down attempt. 

But both offenses should be guaranteed 1 possession in OT (unless the 1st team gives up a safety or pick/scoop-6). Perhaps after 1 possession each, either team getting a TD wins.

Edited January 24, 2022 by B00M

[Codaxx 5602]

26 minutes ago, Moby Ric said:

Oilers fan says fuck the Bills forever.  Glad to see them lose again.  And if you want to cry about the rules.  Stop the other team from scoring and moving the ball.  Bills had plenty of chances to stop them.  Hill scores on an incredible play, 13 seconds and a field goal, and then a TD again in OT.  KC deserved it, and Mahomes is flat out Superman.

"When things look grim, be the Grim Reaper"  Andy Reid.

Loved seeing Tenn get beat, fuck Bud Adams, loved seeing Buffalo get Beat, fuck the Bills.

Mahommes was the 2nd best QB on the field

[Codaxx 5602]

25 minutes ago, CooterBrown said:

When your opponent's offensive is unstoppable, maybe the move it to do an onside kick and have a chance at recovery.

not anymore, they totally screwed the onside rules. 

[utxmike05 1825]

11 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

Mahommes was the 2nd best QB on the field

Yup.  Mahomes gets help Hill yards after the catch.  It's not like a QB actually throws for X amount of yards...the WR gains most of that.  Allen actually threw bombs into the endzone a few times.

Both QBs played awesome, but I would take  Allen if I am starting a new team.

I am over Mahomes/Chiefs.  They aren't smug / assholes that you can hate like Patriots used to be...but they remind me of Curry & GS Warriors.   I'm just tired of them.   

[SA-KC_Horn 1295]

48 minutes ago, utxmike05 said:

I am over Mahomes/Chiefs.  They aren't smug / assholes that you can hate like Patriots used to be...but they remind me of Curry & GS Warriors.   I'm just tired of them.   

[Pam Cummings 9582]

NFL OT is designed to get the game over with as quickly as possible. A full game is already enough of a beating. People are only mad about it because they wanted the Bills to win. Well dont let it go to OT then. Or at least hold them to a FG and you will get your chance. That's more than fair.

 

The Chiefs were not "guaranteed to score". The Bills could have made a stop and they didnt. Even just a FG. Cry about it. The exact same thing happened to the Chiefs 2 years ago and guess what. They have only themselves to blame for committing a penalty on a play that would have ended the game.

Edited January 24, 2022 by Pam Cummings

[C-Man 27058]

1 hour ago, utxmike05 said:

Yup.  Mahomes gets help Hill yards after the catch.  It's not like a QB actually throws for X amount of yards...the WR gains most of that.  Allen actually threw bombs into the endzone a few times.

Both QBs played awesome, but I would take  Allen if I am starting a new team.

I am over Mahomes/Chiefs.  They aren't smug / assholes that you can hate like Patriots used to be...but they remind me of Curry & GS Warriors.   I'm just tired of them.   

Tyreek Hill would be really, really hard for me to root for if I were a KC Chiefs fan.

As far as OT goes, I hated seeing how that played out yesterday as the game was basically decided on the OT coin flip. I like the idea of giving both teams the ball at least once in OT and then going sudden death after that. Maybe give the home team the choice to get the ball first or second in OT and then let them play. Take the ball first and you would get the ball back for the third drive (the visiting team would get it fourth, presumably) or go second and know what you have to do to win the game on your drive.

[pops 6974]

They didn't even need to squib kick it. Kick one of those high short ones that comes down around the 5 or 10. Plenty of time to get coverage down and burn a few seconds. 

Or cover kelce for fucks sake. 

[DougO 5239]

3 hours ago, Steamboat1874 said:

Play some fucking defense if you want to win the game.

Buffalo did not deserve another chance.

They gave up 45 or so yards in 13 seconds to get tied and then could not stop KC in OT.

OT rules are just fine in the NFL.

Fact.

 

[DougO 5239]

I guess next people will want a panel to decide who should play in the Superbowl every year.

[Bevo 13527]

10 minutes ago, pops said:

Or cover kelce for fucks sake. 

Great coverage for the Bills all day except when it counted. Both of those passes were wide open and easy tosses.

OTOH, the Chief's safeties had issues all day. The Bill's drive, despite the 4th down conversions, were pretty fucking easy - The Chiefs gave up long passes to the center of the field all game long.