2022 Beijing Winter Olympics

[perfectchaos007 6677]

US mens curling team faces Great Britain in the semis. I would love to see the US team defend their gold 

[pops 7005]

Interview with Erin Jackson was awesome. She is fantastic. Stories like hers make me have hope in the next generation. 

[Nicole44 22072]

11 minutes ago, pops said:

Interview with Erin Jackson was awesome. She is fantastic. Stories like hers make me have hope in the next generation. 

I didn’t see . What all did she say in a nutshell? 

[perfectchaos007 6677]

Well crap I didn’t know the US mens curling team lost to Great Britain last night. Guess we’ll be playing against Canada for Bronze 

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19 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

I didn’t see . What all did she say in a nutshell? 

It was on USA with that blonde british host. Can't find a link. Just basically telling her story and all the schooling she's done and getting into skating from rollerblading.

That chick needs all the endorsement deals. 

[Nicole44 22072]

15 minutes ago, pops said:

It was on USA with that blonde british host. Can't find a link. Just basically telling her story and all the schooling she's done and getting into skating from rollerblading.

That chick needs all the endorsement deals. 

Yep! I hope she gets them! 

[The Dog 44072]

7 hours ago, TexPx said:

No shit. One of the strangest Olympic moments I can remember. Still not sure who all to be pissed at.

Let me help you:

1. The Russian government and everyone else involved, for setting up that elaborate scheme to cheat in 2014 while hosting the Olympics;

2. The IOC, for refusing to ban the lot of them from competition for several Olympic games;

3. The coaches and support staff who continued to cheat and loaded up a 15 year old with a cocktail of drugs to improve her performance with no regard for her well being or long term effects;

4. The Court for Arbitration of Sport for not declaring the young lady ineligible pending the investigation, ignoring the "irreparable harm" their decision would cause to the sport and to all other athletes competing in the figure skating events.

 

[PantsTent 2002]

3 hours ago, perfectchaos007 said:

Well crap I didn’t know the US mens curling team lost to Great Britain last night. Guess we’ll be playing against Canada for Bronze 

Yes, the semis were at 6am this morning and the Bronze game starts at midnight tonight.

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I think the Chinese are hacking the judges and just putting in whatever scores they want for gu. I know she's good,  but 8 points better than Hannah?  Fuck off. 

[pops 7005]

100% fuck off. Sharpe's run beat the shit out of gu. 3 points lower. Fuck everything and everyone. 

[Okie State 3821]

Gu is obviously good, but fuck she gets generous scores.

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6 minutes ago, Okie State said:

Gu is obviously good, but fuck she gets generous scores.

Yep. She's good. But there is a 5 point CCP bump. It's stupid. Her 1st run was better than her second... but it's 2 points higher. 

[Okie State 3821]

Yep. She's good. But there is a 5 point CCP bump. It's stupid. Her 1st run was better than her second... but it's 2 points higher. 

Of course half the others fell so she only had real competition from the Canadians.

[Aleemay 304]

37 minutes ago, pops said:

Yep. She's good. But there is a 5 point CCP bump. It's stupid. Her 1st run was better than her second... but it's 2 points higher. 

Gu added a 540 spin on her second run. Second run was plainly better than her first.

No way was Sharpe better. She missed a lot of her grabs. If you look at the replays, you see Sharpe repeated opening and closing her hands trying to reach her skis.

[TexPx 2323]

Let me help you:
1. The Russian government and everyone else involved, for setting up that elaborate scheme to cheat in 2014 while hosting the Olympics;
2. The IOC, for refusing to ban the lot of them from competition for several Olympic games;
3. The coaches and support staff who continued to cheat and loaded up a 15 year old with a cocktail of drugs to improve her performance with no regard for her well being or long term effects;
4. The Court for Arbitration of Sport for not declaring the young lady ineligible pending the investigation, ignoring the "irreparable harm" their decision would cause to the sport and to all other athletes competing in the figure skating events.
 

5. Her Mother

[crash_davis 23114]

I hate cheating. I hate Russia. I took absolutely no pleasure watching a 15 yo girl buckle under the pressure. Fuck all that shit show that is Russian figure skating and figure skating in general. 

 

[lemonlime 5503]

17 minutes ago, crash_davis said:

I hate cheating. I hate Russia. I took absolutely no pleasure watching a 15 yo girl buckle under the pressure. Fuck all that shit show that is Russian figure skating and figure skating in general. 

 

Did she buckle under the pressure, though?  It wouldn't surprise me at all if she was told to purposefully blow it so that her teammates could take gold and silver and they could have the medal ceremony go forward, and that's why her teammates were so upset after winning.

[Nicole44 22072]

Just now, lemonlime said:

Did she buckle under the pressure, though?  It wouldn't surprise me at all if she was told to purposefully blow it so that her teammates could take gold and silver and they could have the medal ceremony go forward, and that's why her teammates were so upset after winning.

Sweep the leg? Wouldn’t be unheard of for Russia. 
And yes , Gu is good but fuck it…Goo Be Gone from my TV set. NBC spending all this damn time on her and Mikaela and the Russian girl (I do hurt for her btw)…barely any real coverage of JacobEllis etc and other Americans. Fuck NBC. Fuck The China government. fuck russia. Fuck the IOC. 

[crash_davis 23114]

Just now, lemonlime said:

Did she buckle under the pressure, though?  It wouldn't surprise me at all if she was told to purposefully blow it so that her teammates could take gold and silver and they could have the medal ceremony go forward, and that's why her teammates were so upset after winning.

Those were not the emotions of a person throwing the match. Like the Chinese athletes and China, the Russians only care about how Russia and Russians will react. Their internet and news are censored so the Russian people will prob never hear of the controversy. She wanted to win. 

[WBT 20642]

2 hours ago, PantsTent said:

Yes, the semis were at 6am this morning and the Bronze game starts at midnight tonight.

That semi was a really entertaining match with good shotmaking and some interesting strategy.  The US finally blinked in the 9th and 10th innings.

[Buzzrock 14935]

I hate cheating. I hate Russia. I took absolutely no pleasure watching a 15 yo girl buckle under the pressure. Fuck all that shit show that is Russian figure skating and figure skating in general. 
 

That was deeply unpleasant to watch. Doubly so since I have a 15 year old daughter.

[Nicole44 22072]

US Men’s Curling Team giving it all they have. Waking up this early is what I deserve for falling asleep between 11 and 11:30pm.

Edited February 18, 2022 by Nicole44

[shadow_operative2.0 16010]

Spoiler

We got rolled up. 

[utee94 15835]

9 hours ago, Buzzrock said:

That was deeply unpleasant to watch. Doubly so since I have a 15 year old daughter.

My 14yo daughter said, "She shouldn't have been doping.  Don't start no shit, won't be no shit."

Well, she didn't exactly say that last part, but it was implied

[Nicole44 22072]

Man that Sweden v ROC hockey match was off the chain! Shoot out! Damn that was a good game! 

[crash_davis 23114]

China and Russia governments created bubbles where they control the content (giant internet firewalls) and news that reaches their people. China and Russia encourage and pursue cheating. They only care about results because how they got those results will never be communicated to the majority of the people in those countries. When their athletes win, it bolsters national pride within the people, that they competed and won against the US and the rest of the world. It's the East German mentality. 

So are the athletes to blame? Yes. But if you want to compete for your country, you prob have to go along with what your coach and the government say. As an athlete, you can try to cleanly compete against your countrymen but when they pass you up because of external enhancements which you can also have, you will soon cheat too. The question also rises if they know exactly what they are taking and are basically just told to take it.

The next opinion is that then the athletes shouldn't compete because they know they are cheating. Most of Russia and China are poor. This is how many kids and their families can escape poverty. Plus past champions are held in the highest esteem nationally. They are superheroes. It comes at a heavy price as they are shipped off to their training facilities at a young age and sometimes never see their families for years/decades. The closest analogy that I can think of is all the high school athletes who accept money and bribes to attend universities to play sports. College football and basketball are poster children for cheating and yet we generally dismiss it. Do the winning schools give a shit about their cheating ways to win National Championships? Do China and Russia care that the rest of the world knows they cheat?

Not excusing any of this shit. Just giving context to the shit show that I watched last night with that 15 yo girl and the blatant scoring in favor of Gu. Yet I will continue to watch because every athlete who didn't cheat, who spent 10s of thousands of hours practicing so that they can compete in the Olympics only once in every 4 years, deserves my attention. 

 

Edited February 18, 2022 by crash_davis

[XYZ 2154]

If Lance Armstrong were Russian he would be a national hero, and the Russian people wouldn’t even know that he was a cheater, a piece of shit, and that he was stripped of all his biggest wins.

[crash_davis 23114]

4 minutes ago, XYZ said:

If Lance Armstrong were Russian he would be a national hero, and the Russian people wouldn’t even know that he was a cheater, a piece of shit, and that he was stripped of all his biggest wins.

exactly. 

[dcar00 14317]

12 hours ago, lemonlime said:

Did she buckle under the pressure, though?  It wouldn't surprise me at all if she was told to purposefully blow it so that her teammates could take gold and silver and they could have the medal ceremony go forward, and that's why her teammates were so upset after winning.

she was told to take a dive.  the histrionics from the coaches confirms it.  they were playing it up and asking her why she screwed up to cover for the dive.

It's sad to see what they'd do to a 15 year old but....you know...Russia/Communists.

[tokamak 6432]

12 hours ago, crash_davis said:

Those were not the emotions of a person throwing the match. Like the Chinese athletes and China, the Russians only care about how Russia and Russians will react. Their internet and news are censored so the Russian people will prob never hear of the controversy. She wanted to win. 

I'm guessing that they'll hear that evil and corrupt western officials/media destroyed our beautiful, sweet, innocent Kamila.

[crash_davis 23114]

1 minute ago, dcar00 said:

she was told to take a dive.  the histrionics from the coaches confirms it.  they were playing it up and asking her why she screwed up to cover for the dive.

It's sad to see what they'd do to a 15 year old but....you know...Russia/Communists.

i don't see it this way at all. again Russia doesn't give a fuck if there isn't a medal ceremony had she won.

they were after the "we swept the medals in women figure skating, 1st, 2nd and 3rd, bitches!" that's the news which would've been blasted every hour on every news source. they would've had a national televised medal ceremony live when the skaters got home. national pride would have been through roof. Russian skating cements their greatness onto the world, No one can touch our accomplishments!

She wanted to win. Russians wanted her to win. They were after the historic win to sell to their people.

[dcar00 14317]

1 minute ago, crash_davis said:

i don't see it this way at all. again Russia doesn't give a fuck if there isn't a medal ceremony had she won.

they were after the "we swept the medals in women figure skating, 1st, 2nd and 3rd, bitches!" that's the news which would've been blasted every hour on every news source. they would've had a national televised medal ceremony live when the skaters got home. national pride would have been through roof. Russian skating cements their greatness onto the world, No one can touch our accomplishments!

She wanted to win. Russians wanted her to win. They were after the historic win to sell to their people.

not a chance.  A russian got the gold(and silver).  That is all that matters to Russia.  It's already dying down because she didn't get a medal and that's all that Russia cared about.

the judges were more than happy to place her 4th.

[crash_davis 23114]

It's not inconceivable that Putin would've coincided the medal sweeping and ensuing national pride by invading Ukraine. Russian Greatness! Here's more Russian greatness, we invade Ukraine to save our fellow Slavs.

[dcar00 14317]

13 hours ago, lemonlime said:

Did she buckle under the pressure, though?  It wouldn't surprise me at all if she was told to purposefully blow it so that her teammates could take gold and silver and they could have the medal ceremony go forward, and that's why her teammates were so upset after winning.

this.

[The Dog 44072]

I feel bad for the girl who won - here she is, the gold medal winner, and nobody went over to congratulate her. She was all alone. 

[perfectchaos007 6677]

26 minutes ago, The Dog said:

I feel bad for the girl who won - here she is, the gold medal winner, and nobody went over to congratulate her. She was all alone. 

She wasn’t who the Kremlin planned on winning. After winning gold she had the reaction of a girl who’s parents were about to be sent to the gulag 

 

Edited February 18, 2022 by perfectchaos007

[dcar00 14317]

35 minutes ago, perfectchaos007 said:

She wasn’t who the Kremlin planned on winning. After winning gold she had the reaction of a girl who’s parents were about to be sent to the gulag 

 

Fuck Russia but that's the area where the leaders sit.  there aren't coaches there.  they are only in the kiss/cry area when scoring.

[lemonlime 5503]

2 hours ago, crash_davis said:

i don't see it this way at all. again Russia doesn't give a fuck if there isn't a medal ceremony had she won.

they were after the "we swept the medals in women figure skating, 1st, 2nd and 3rd, bitches!" that's the news which would've been blasted every hour on every news source. they would've had a national televised medal ceremony live when the skaters got home. national pride would have been through roof. Russian skating cements their greatness onto the world, No one can touch our accomplishments!

She wanted to win. Russians wanted her to win. They were after the historic win to sell to their people.

Except she had the same coach as the gold and silver medalists.  They knew if she won there would be no medal ceremony, and her medal would almost certainly be stripped anyway.  So they told her to throw her performance so that her teammates could take gold and silver.  The "winner's" reactions to winning Olympic gold make this clear.

That said, I don't blame Valeiva.  She's a kid.  Who was abused by the adults in her life for some fake glory.

[mchookem 16342]

the silver medalist (redhead) was the one bawling right? i mean she seemed really angry. i wish we had a translation of what she was saying at the end when she was hysterically crying and Valieva was being 'consoled'...

anyways...Valieva has giant hands 😐

ETA: so apparently Trusova (redhead) was basically pissed she didn't get the gold since Valieva f/up bc she does all the quads as well and was saying how she hated skating now and screaming at her coach about it.

man, serious drama lol

Russian figure skating has surpassed Russian gymnastics for fuckedupedness.

Edited February 18, 2022 by mchookem

[Nicole44 22072]

And yet lost in all the Russian skater drama was a Japanese girl who skated her ass off.

[YChang 3455]

8 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

And yet lost in all the Russian skater drama was a Japanese girl who skated her ass off.

The one person actually crying from... joy. 

[Grade of D as in David 13253]

Randy Moss sounds different.

[Buzzrock 14935]

My 14yo daughter said, "She shouldn't have been doping.  Don't start no shit, won't be no shit."
Well, she didn't exactly say that last part, but it was implied

Play stupid games, don’t win any prizes?

[XYZ 2154]

7 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

And yet lost in all the Russian skater drama was a Japanese girl who skated her ass off.

Yeah, Sakamoto was fucking awesome.

[WBT 20642]

17 hours ago, dcar00 said:

Fuck Russia but that's the area where the leaders sit.  there aren't coaches there.  they are only in the kiss/cry area when scoring.

Real sports don't have a "kiss and cry"

[shadow_operative2.0 16010]

 

 

[XYZ 2154]

There’s this speed skating sport called “mass start” that fucking sucks.

[Napoleon 8692]

1 hour ago, shadow_operative2.0 said:

 

 

That did NOT look like it felt good. 
 

😳 🚑🚑

[Napoleon 8692]

1 minute ago, XYZ said:

There’s this speed skating sport called “mass start” that fucking sucks.

It appears to use various aspects of road racing (cycling) but uses short track skaters.

Never seen it or even heard of it before. 

[Sgt Hulk 13814]

On 2/18/2022 at 12:51 PM, perfectchaos007 said:

She wasn’t who the Kremlin planned on winning. After winning gold she had the reaction of a girl who’s parents were about to be sent to the gulag 

 

I’ve paid zero attention to figure skating. But having a young daughter. What’s the back story here. She looks sad depressed and holding a teddy bear. Like I want to hug this kid. What’s wrong here