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2 hours ago, Pescado_Rojo said:

What if I think it sucks for *bothsides*? I think gerrymandering is one of the biggest reasons for the shitty discourse in this country. When your only fear of losing your seat is getting flanked by someone more extreme in your own party, you have no motivation to do anything but squawk about how "evil" the other side is. There should never be a +20 district for either party. If the software exists to make these crazy Rorschach test districts that are +20 or +30 R or D, then that same software could be used to draw every district +/- 3%. Make congress critters go out and win the adults in the middle based on their ideas and records of public service. There are so many issues that poll over 60% in both parties, but we can't solve them because our "leaders" would rather fundraise off them than get in a room with the other party and solve them.  

You sound like a pussy communist socialist libtard who hates America and doesn't MAGA hard enough.

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14 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

huh?

“Progressives” like Susan Sarandon and Killer Mike couldn’t bring themselves to support Hillary because she wasn’t Bernie and wittingly contributed to our having a conservative majority on the Court.

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Everyone has the same access to vote.  Voting has never been easier.  There are weeks of early voting in Texas.  Some of the most restrictive states are northern, liberal states.
As to gerrymandering, it has happened for over 100 years.  It is why democrats had a stranglehold on the House for most of the 20th century.  It is also an issue caused by the requirement for minority majority districts.  Democrats still do it in states they control but don't like it that the GOP is now doing it now that the GOP wins statewide elections in a majority of the states.
What proof do you have Abrams really won?

I have been locked up all day long with appointments. Will respond later when I get back to a computer so I can cite properly.
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On 2/9/2022 at 8:14 AM, Johnny Sack said:

Everyone has the same access to vote.  Voting has never been easier.  There are weeks of early voting in Texas.  Some of the most restrictive states are northern, liberal states.

As to gerrymandering, it has happened for over 100 years.  It is why democrats had a stranglehold on the House for most of the 20th century.  It is also an issue caused by the requirement for minority majority districts.  Democrats still do it in states they control but don't like it that the GOP is now doing it now that the GOP wins statewide elections in a majority of the states.

What proof do you have Abrams really won?

OK lets get started with something easy.  

Kemp tossed 340,000 voters registrations claiming they had moved (they did not).  More details here.

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A poll worker agreed to allow Baiye to vote provisionally, meaning his vote would only be counted if it could later be verified as eligible. Across the state, more than 9,400 provisional ballots were cast by people who couldn't be found on registration lists. The vast majority, nearly three out of every four, of those ballots were rejected, state records show.

A registration application was also included in Baiye's ballot. He filled it out, but it was too late to make a difference this time around. Georgia has one of the least forgiving voter registration laws in the country; if voters don't apply at least 29 days before an election, they can't vote.

Which means, Kemp, who ran the elections, tossed legal votes for this guy, because of his own mistake.  But the rules do not allow for this guy to recover and vote, especially if they are tossing 3/4ths of the votes.  So this is in effect a direct purge of legal voters and a tactic of voter suppression.    The article goes on to discuss how the numbers played out and surprise surprise, the whites had fewer voters purged.  

 

Not everyone has equal access to voting.  Back to Georgia, this article discusses how inspite of the increase in registered voters, polling locations were cut by ~10% and that many of those cuts were in cities  Here is a quote from this article:

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Georgia Public Broadcasting/ProPublica found that the average wait time after 7 p.m. across Georgia was 51 minutes in polling places that were 90% or more nonwhite, but only 6 minutes in polling places that were 90% white.

You can said that they have access to voting as much as you do, but that simply is not evident in the statistics.   And since you are such a fair guy, you surely would support efforts to extend voting opportunities to our lesser financially secure people who lack the resources or options to vote during work hours by creating a 3 day voting national program which recognizes 2 early voting days for 4 hours paid leave and a paid Nov. 02 Holiday for the rest of us, because we want to encourage voting and fairness to our lesser financially secure members.   

 

It is interesting that you note that gerrymandering was part of the democratic plan for the 20th and you admit that it is a common tactic among the GQP now.  So in other words, the voter suppression and rigging has been a conservative platform to mitigate the numbers since the parties flipped in the past, because you are a educated man, you surely realise this.  So in effect, it is largely been carried out by the same group of people/actors even though the names have changed.

When the voters of Florida overwhelmingly came out in support of allowing for former prisoners to have their voting rights restored and the governor decided to ignore the will of the people, does that immediately remove him from all legitimate claims to office?  I mean he demonstrated that votes do not matter, so his claim to the governorship is now delegitimized.   Would you help me draft a lawsuit installing my Mom as the governor?   The State leadership will be well fed and overstuffed with Italian food and then guilt tripped into eating more.  But they will be happy.  She might even work up the nerve to slap or have the island boys head publically shaved and find out whatever school they went to and have the principals executed.  And if you don't know who they are, I envy you in this regard.

 

I have to cut this short for the moment.  Will try to get back on this evening.

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16 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

Mayor Adams should know better than to talk like this 

You're right, lots of Black organizations acknowledge the issue and are working for improvements, but they're easy to ignore so you guys can keep saying "HOW COME thEy DoN't CArE aBOUt bLacK On black CrimE?"

But the Mayor of New York City? He's a little harder to ignore, but I'm sure you will next time you want to lie and say nobody caring about the issue.

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6 hours ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

Mayor Adams should know better than to talk like this 

The sadly irony-deaf Trumpers are really missing a good show. Yes, people like Johnny Sack and Immaculate Vibes are the very experts and concerned citizens needed to advise BLM. The only way to really deal with racism is to let white dickheads tell everybody what they should be doing.

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13 minutes ago, Nivek said:


Still nothing? I see you are still posting. Do you need more time?

What’s your question?  That Abrams really won?

She didn’t.  And claimed she did.  
 

And BLM is a fraud.  Only good thing they do is rip off white liberals.  

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52 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

 Only good thing they do is rip off white liberals.  

Probably why Vague Unnamed BLM Leader paid 25 million to settle a fraud case involving his "university".

Or why Vague Unnamed BLM Leader's charitable foundation was found so irredeemable in federal court it was ordered dissolved- given the charitable foundation equivalent of the death penalty- and ordered to reliquish all its assets.

Or why Vague Unnamed BLM Leader promised to DRAIN THE SWAMP by promising to self-finance presidential campaign, beholden to no one, while currently and openly raising over a hundred million and spending hardly any of it.

Got to get up pretty early in the morning to get one by you, Eagle Eye. 

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Probably why Vague Unnamed BLM Leader paid 25 million to settle a fraud case involving his "university".

Or why Vague Unnamed BLM Leader's charitable foundation was found so irredeemable in federal court it was ordered dissolved- given the charitable foundation equivalent of the death penalty- and ordered to reliquish all its assets.

Or why Vague Unnamed BLM Leader promised to DRAIN THE SWAMP by promising to self-finance presidential campaign, beholden to no one, while currently and openly raising over a hundred million and spending hardly any of it.

Got to get up pretty early in the morning to get one by you, Eagle Eye. 

So, but Trump?

If only there was another thread or 20 to discuss his actions   

 

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And to add-

I would not at all be surprised if scams relying on BLM appeals or fronts occur anymore than I was surprised that Boogaloo Bois used George Floyd protests to murder LEOs. With MAGA, it is, as evidenced here, open and unapologetic. 

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20 hours ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

Mayor Adams should know better than to talk like this 

So a Black democrat, the highest profile mayor in America and one the highest profile politicians, went on national TV and said the things that right-wingers want him to say and/or that “no one is allowed to say.”

This is a point for you now, exactly? 

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What’s your question?  That Abrams really won?
She didn’t.  And claimed she did.  
 
And BLM is a fraud.  Only good thing they do is rip off white liberals.  

Hey, you are back! I hate to tell you this, but some asshole has hacked your account and posted a bunch of easily challenged bullshit under your account name. Guy even got clowned by a geologist. I mean who loses an argument to a dickhead that collects rocks?
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What’s your question?  That Abrams really won?
She didn’t.  And claimed she did.  
 
And BLM is a fraud.  Only good thing they do is rip off white liberals.  

Hey, you are back! I hate to tell you this, but some asshole has hacked your account and posted a bunch of easily challenged bullshit under your account name. Guy even got clowned by a geologist. I mean who loses an argument to a dickhead that collects rocks?
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Wait... Leaders of an organization have ethical and fiduciary failures, followers of that organization are continually acting in ways that contradict the movement's values? 

Well, shit. Wrap it up then... We're done here. It was a good try, but I guess Christianity is all a big scam. 

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1 hour ago, NWBuck said:

Wait... Leaders of an organization have ethical and fiduciary failures, followers of that organization are continually acting in ways that contradict the movement's values? 

Well, shit. Wrap it up then... We're done here. It was a good try, but I guess Christianity is all a big scam. 

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15 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/black-lives-matter-paid-4m-board-secretary-co-founders-brother-father-child

 

She should be exposed and is deserving of every bit of the scorn directed her way. Meanwhile:

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump reported between $172 million and $640 million in outside income while working in the White House, according to an analysis of financial disclosures by CREW. It is impossible to tell the exact amount as the income is sometimes reported in broad ranges and cover four months of income before Ivanka Trump officially joined her father’s administration and nearly one month before Jared Kushner joined.

Both Kushner and Trump announced they would not take a salary while working for the government in an attempt to shut down nepotism concerns. While their supporters marked this as a public sacrifice, the massive amount of money they made on the side undercuts that argument, as government salaries would have been less than 1% of their income.

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31 minutes ago, Satchel said:

She should be exposed and is deserving of every bit of the scorn directed her way. Meanwhile:

Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump reported between $172 million and $640 million in outside income while working in the White House, according to an analysis of financial disclosures by CREW. It is impossible to tell the exact amount as the income is sometimes reported in broad ranges and cover four months of income before Ivanka Trump officially joined her father’s administration and nearly one month before Jared Kushner joined.

Both Kushner and Trump announced they would not take a salary while working for the government in an attempt to shut down nepotism concerns. While their supporters marked this as a public sacrifice, the massive amount of money they made on the side undercuts that argument, as government salaries would have been less than 1% of their income.

You should start a thread on Trump.  This board needs another.  This thread is about the corrupt entity BLM.

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10 minutes ago, Satchel said:

640 million dollars while working in the White House.

And?  That is the top end.  He was rich before Trump was elected.  He and his family own a shitload of real estate.  His brother has more money than he does.  Was Kushner supposed to turn down rent or something? From Fortune:

Overall, the disclosures suggest Trump and Kushner, though still extremely wealthy, lost ground or tread water economically during their controversial stints in her father’s administration. In 2017, shortly after joining the White House staff, they reported income of as much as $195 million, but that initial disclosure covered a longer period of time than the ones that followed.

The couple’s assets appreciated only modestly, if at all, over the last four years, during which the stock market climbed more than 60%. In their most recent disclosure, they listed assets worth between $206 million and $803 million, compared to a 2017 figure of between $241 million and $741 million. They listed assets worth between $203 million and $783 million last year.

 https://fortune.com/2021/02/03/ivanka-trump-jared-kushner-income-hit-white-house/

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Cool.  Charge that gal with fraud/embezzlement, whatever is appropriate.

Just like we should do the same to every preacher that bilks his followers, every "help wounded veterans" charity that diverts 95% of their revenue to salaries and "fundraising," etc.

None of which supports any logical leap that veterans are an unworthy cause, Christianity is inherently bad, or the message that black lives matter is incorrect.  Next topic?

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On 4/19/2022 at 9:31 AM, 'stache said:

You're right, lots of Black organizations acknowledge the issue and are working for improvements, but they're easy to ignore so you guys can keep saying "HOW COME thEy DoN't CArE aBOUt bLacK On black CrimE?"

But the Mayor of New York City? He's a little harder to ignore, but I'm sure you will next time you want to lie and say nobody caring about the issue.

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First thing that comes out there mouth without doing any research. I went to HS in a bad area. They always had anti violence, drug, and gun assemblies. Jesse Jackson even came to speak once. The narrative that we don't care is false.

 

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First thing that comes out there mouth without doing any research. I went to HS in a bad area. They always had anti violence, drug, and gun assemblies. Jesse Jackson even came to speak once. The narrative that we don't care is false.

 

How many of those efforts, marches, and assemblies does Fox News ever cover?  Now you have your answer as to why the "why don't black people do something?" crowd keeps asking a question based on a falsehood.

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First thing that comes out there mouth without doing any research. I went to HS in a bad area. They always had anti violence, drug, and gun assemblies. Jesse Jackson even came to speak once. The narrative that we don't care is false.

 

Deny. Distract. Deflect. It's all they've got.

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25 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

You should start a thread on Trump.  This board needs another.  This thread is about the corrupt entity BLM.

You are back!   I knew you couldn't stay lost forever.  Does counselor need more time still to respond to a months old post? 

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But but 

Why would people such as yourself focus on the 7 figure grift of of a BLM operative while ignoring grift in the Trump family?

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48 minutes ago, Satchel said:

640 million dollars while working in the White House.

 

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Why would people such as yourself focus on the 7 figure grift of of a BLM operative while ignoring grift in the Trump family?

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For generations, U.S. presidents have gone to great lengths to avoid potential conflicts of interest. When I was elected, I followed suit by placing my small business in a blind trust to assure our citizens that I would always put the country’s interests ahead of my own. It’s a vital presidential tradition. That’s why I find it a bit curious that our new commander-in-chief has been allowed to ignore it.

For Christ’s sake, you people made me get rid of my peanut farm before you let me be president.

I grew up on that farm. When my father died, I moved back home and worked those fields with my own two hands to keep it afloat. It was a hard job, but it was so rewarding. It wasn’t just a business—it was the place I called home. Letting go of the family farm was one of the hardest things I’ve ever had to do, but I did it because the American people asked me to. I did it for their sake, without enthusiasm, but also without hesitation.

Boy, times sure have changed, haven’t they? I couldn’t help but notice that the current occupant of the White House owns more than 500 companies, has business interests across the Middle East and Asia, and owes hundreds of millions of dollars to banks he is now responsible for regulating. It seems a touch unfair that a bigger fuss was made about my little peanut operation than all his office towers, hotels, and golf courses combined. All I had was a farm, you know? A small, precious farm.

Seriously, it was just a few fields and a warehouse, and you idiots still appointed a special prosecutor and spent six months investigating it.

Not a day goes by when I don’t think about what life would be like if I still had my peanut farm. I miss it so much. I miss feeling the sun on my face. I miss the earth in my hands. Sometimes, I’d go out to the fields before dawn. I’d watch the sun come up, watch it cast golden light on my plants, row by row. It was so calm; so quiet. Those were some of the best days of my life. It sure would’ve been nice to live out the rest of my years there, but I had to do what was right. I suppose only some of us have to.

God, I loved that peanut farm!

And where were my conflicts of interest, exactly? Seriously, do enlighten me, America, because I honestly have no idea. Did you worry I might be cutting deals in back rooms with the peanut butter lobby? Or that I might be too busy at harvest time to focus on the economy or the Middle East? Apparently, you did, and almost obsessively. Meanwhile, your new president holds a lease from the federal government to operate a $200 million hotel six blocks from the White House. I mean, come on!

Maybe I’m just a sucker. Apparently, all I needed to do was hand off control of the farm to my family. If I’d staged an elaborate song and dance about distancing myself—whatever that means—from all the day-to-day planting, picking, and salting, maybe I could have kept my peanut farm with the full blessing of you, the American people.

esides, that peanut farm would probably be worth $200 million today, easy.

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45 minutes ago, Nivek said:

You are back!   I knew you couldn't stay lost forever.  Does counselor need more time still to respond to a months old post? 

I don't really keep track of you like you do me.  But is this about Stacey Klump losing the election by 54,000 votes and her repeating the Big Lie the election was stolen?

A quote from her:

"I have no empirical evidence that I would have achieved a higher number of votes. However, I have sufficient and I think legally sufficient doubt about the process to say that it was not a fair election." https://web.archive.org/web/20190429012042/https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2019/04/28/magazine/stacey-abrams-election-georgia.html

 Or this:

On November 9, 2018, the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reported that its investigation of the 2018 statewide elections in Georgia had found "no evidence ... of systematic malfeasance – or of enough tainted votes to force a runoff election". https://www.ajc.com/news/scattered-problems-emerge-georgia-voting/oQxJq2DOKu8o32pd0mvAxN/#

Or this:

A USA Today fact check noted that the actions Kemp's office took during the election "can be explained as routine under state and federal law"; political scientist Charles S. Bullock III said there is "not much empirical evidence supporting the assertion that Kemp either suppressed the vote or 'stole' the election from Abrams." https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/18/fact-check-partly-false-claim-gov-brian-kemp-and-2018-election/6327447002/

 

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