Better Call Saul: Season 6

[billfromlaketravis 11447]

1 minute ago, henrygandorf said:

you don't think it'll be as effective as the bowling ball gambit?

Main strikes me as the Matlock type. I think he eventually figures out what Kim and Jimmy are up to. The unintended consequences will be fun to watch. 

[GTX Horn 1707]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Main strikes me as the Matlock type. I think he eventually figures out what Kim and Jimmy are up to. The unintended consequences will be fun to watch. 

Yup. And I imagine Kim is gonna bear the brunt of the consequences, too.

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

26 minutes ago, GTX Horn said:

Yup. And I imagine Kim is gonna bear the brunt of the consequences, too.

I think you guys are right - otherwise it does not make sense. I'll put my $5 on Saul weasels out of getting caught somehow and leaves Kim holding the bag, which splits their relationship and lands her disbarred and in the pokey.

[billfromlaketravis 11447]

7 minutes ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

I think you guys are right - otherwise it does not make sense. I'll put my $5 on Saul weasels out of getting caught somehow and leaves Kim holding the bag, which splits their relationship and lands her disbarred and in the pokey.

Yep something like that. Jimmy ruins Kim. Kim wants him out of her live forever.

I never bought the Gene - Kim reunion in Nebraska fairy tale theory. This is the Breaking Bad universe. Not When Harry Met Sally. 

[Red Five 40827]

1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I never bought the Gene - Kim reunion in Nebraska fairy tale theory.

I wouldn't think so either, but they wrote her character as coming from Nebraska. Could just be a wink that doesn't pay off I guess. 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13508]

Damn, didn’t see that coming.

[Horn80 6114]

I’m confused.  Wasn’t he in lots of BB episodes?

[TexasMan 10891]

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Good night, sweet prince 

 

 

 

 

[SizzleChest 8283]

13 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Damn, didn’t see that coming.

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It was the only way to preserve future BB timeline, otherwise it's war between Fring and the Salamancas.  And Nacho was noble.  In the game, but played it straight.  He died because of this.

 

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

If only poor guy had known Mike already took papa off the table.

[billfromlaketravis 11447]

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I was expecting more after reading the Gilligan interview. Nacho went out on his terms… kind of. That’s about all he could ask for given his circumstances. 

 

[TexasMan 10891]

41 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

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It was the only way to preserve future BB timeline, otherwise it's war between Fring and the Salamancas.  And Nacho was noble.  In the game, but played it straight.  He died because of this.

 

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Plus, I think he decided to really act out the lie so to ensure Gus would never want to harm his dad ever. 

 

[TexasMan 10891]

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Well I'll buy this theory. Hopefully they talk about it on the podcast tomorrow. 

 

 

 

[Dutch 4465]

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Michael Mando…. What a performance and a character in a series full of both. When he called his dad…”Adios mijo. Adios papa.” The finality of it. I wanted Nacho to make it out alive, but there are no happe endings in BB/BCS -verse.  I loved how he told Hector; went out on his terms.

56 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

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It was the only way to preserve future BB timeline, otherwise it's war between Fring and the Salamancas.  And Nacho was noble.  In the game, but played it straight.  He died because of this.

And this. Everyone in the scene, bar one, we knew survives into BB. Despite this painted corner, Giliigan fucking nailed the episode. Great, great television  

At this point, Jimmy and Kim are the sidebar to the Cartel storylines. 

The bar for my television viewing is so incredibly high because of this series. Cinematography, writing, acting… so great at all aspects. 

Edited April 26, 2022 by Dutch

[Wade 464]

So, not to spoil it, but does the Kim question get resolved here?

[mchookem 16321]

not tonight it doesn't...

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Kim and Jimmy are barely side stories, this was Nacho's episode. 

 

[notre dame joe 186]

7 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Damn, didn’t see that coming.

I figured Mike would shoot the British grenadiers just before they could hang Nacho.

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

10 hours ago, TexasMan said:

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Well I'll buy this theory. Hopefully they talk about it on the podcast tomorrow. 

 

 

 

That was the point of the weird opening - the glass shard. Yes the blue flower seems to be Nacho's headstone.

[Baboontyme 2809]

I've still got some quibbles with the way the whole thing went down and the chicken org taking some unnecessary risks. That said, can someone remind me who Alvarez is? 

[BluTechsan 393]

Lalo being alive is the game changer - both sides know that Nacho was there.

Nacho really had no other play other than to secure protection for his dad.

Cartel life is brutal business.

Kim’s line about it will probably carry more weight than we are giving it - HHM is peanuts compared to dealing with the cartel.

”Do you want to be friends with the cartel or do you want to be a rat?”

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

16 minutes ago, BluTechsan said:

Lalo being alive is the game changer - both sides know that Nacho was there.

Nacho really had no other play other than to secure protection for his dad.

Cartel life is brutal business.

Kim’s line about it will probably carry more weight than we are giving it - HHM is peanuts compared to dealing with the cartel.

”Do you want to be friends with the cartel or do you want to be a rat?”

Another great juxtaposition - Kim:Jimmy::Papa Varga:Nacho. They both chose unwisely.

[Native Horn 3498]

In a series of many tense episodes, this was the most tense (to me) so far.  Will have to watch again for sure.

[BigOrange1 6432]

why the fuck is everything being put in spoiler tags?  once the episode airs it is fair game is it not?

[Nice Guy Eddie 13508]

11 minutes ago, BigOrange1 said:

why the fuck is everything being put in spoiler tags?  once the episode airs it is fair game is it not?

There isn't clear etiquette in the world of time shifted viewing. Generally I agree that once an episode airs, someone should avoid threads or accept they may see something they didn't mean to.

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Darth Vader is Luke's dad.

 

[Trey3216 15343]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

There isn't clear etiquette in the world of time shifted viewing. Generally I agree that once an episode airs, someone should avoid threads or accept they may see something they didn't mean to.

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Darth Vader is Luke's dad.

 

[UTCzech III 2907]

I ran across this guy's youtube videos last week, he does a fantastic job at breaking down the episodes, finding easter eggs and connections, split second scenes that you probably wouldn't notice unless you went back and watched the episode a few times...  The breakdown of last week's premier is really good as well..

 

[The Maestro 750]

I loved the scene where Huell asks Saul what the hell’s he doing.   

[Nice Guy Eddie 13508]

1 minute ago, The Maestro said:

I loved the scene where Huell asks Saul what the hell’s he doing.   

Huell spoke for the rest of us

Edited April 26, 2022 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Quagmire 2147]

I like nacho the actor and nachos themselves so this hits close to home

[notre dame joe 186]

6 hours ago, Harrison Bergeron said:

Another great juxtaposition - Kim:Jimmy::Papa Varga:Nacho. They both chose unwisely.

they seem to maintain parallelism.  So I progress my prediction.  Kim will have to fall on her legal sword and do it in a way that saves Saul.  Then it would make sense for her to retreat to Omaha. 

[TexasMan 10891]

3 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

 

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Darth Vader is Luke's dad.

 

[SizzleChest 8283]

3 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

why the fuck is everything being put in spoiler tags?  once the episode airs it is fair game is it not?

I don't want to fuck it up for anyone that hasn't seen it. More out of courtesy and consideration than anything.

[MrBig 5370]

8 hours ago, Baboontyme said:

I've still got some quibbles with the way the whole thing went down and the chicken org taking some unnecessary risks. That said, can someone remind me who Alvarez is? 

Who is Alvarez? Did I miss something or is it the first time he’s been mentioned in the BB/BCS universe?

[billfromlaketravis 11447]

Just now, MrBig said:

Who is Alvarez? Did I miss something or is it the first time he’s been mentioned in the BB/BCS universe?

I read a couple articles on it. A few different theories out there. Gus made him up, or he’s a real Peruvian drug lord that the characters are aware of. The general consensus is that he won’t appear in the show or be brought up again because this would be very unusual for Gould/Gilligan. 
 

Alvarez has never been referenced on Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul until last night. 

[tbone_ 14106]

I ran across this guy's youtube videos last week, he does a fantastic job at breaking down the episodes, finding easter eggs and connections, split second scenes that you probably wouldn't notice unless you went back and watched the episode a few times...  The breakdown of last week's premier is really good as well..
 

That was good

[VirginiaLonghorn 4767]

1 hour ago, MrBig said:

Who is Alvarez? Did I miss something or is it the first time he’s been mentioned in the BB/BCS universe?

Big hit man for the Astros … he mashes.

[Augustus 3061]

Regarding why Saul is on the run, discussed on the previous page:

I'd always assumed it was obvious, given that Skylar would've told the Feds in great detail how Saul had arranged all of their money laundering in exchange for his cut, and I don't recall if she was privy to any other crimes he committed.  He's not on the run from anyone in narco trafficking, but from the marshals.

Did anyone else have a different take on that?

 

 

[Augustus 3061]

Damn. Nacho was a good dude.  Just played a dangerous game.

[Harrison Bergeron 1798]

4 hours ago, MrBig said:

Who is Alvarez? Did I miss something or is it the first time he’s been mentioned in the BB/BCS universe?

El Padrino.

Edited April 27, 2022 by Harrison Bergeron

[MissingInAction 25005]

Cracked has a good write up on Nacho becoming a christ like figure. Pointing out the crosses on his shirt, last supper, the way he dropped into the oil like a baptism.

[shadow_operative 15932]

8 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

why the fuck is everything being put in spoiler tags?  once the episode airs it is fair game is it not?

i wanted to say something but didn't want to start a riot. 

[Texzilla58 4731]

they seem to maintain parallelism.  So I progress my prediction.  Kim will have to fall on her legal sword and do it in a way that saves Saul.  Then it would make sense for her to retreat to Omaha. 

Kim to Nebraska is not apparent to me. She only had bad memories there. I’m not speculating nothing; we’re all going to get bamboozled.

[UTCzech III 2907]

Not to keep hyping this guy's channel but he knows his shit.  This brings up some laughable theories but also some pretty good ones, the last one I could see happening.

 

[shadow_operative 15932]

9 hours ago, SizzleChest said:

I don't want to fuck it up for anyone that hasn't seen it. More out of courtesy and consideration than anything.

if someone hasn't seen the episode then they shouldn't come clicking on the thread where everyone is talking about the episode. 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

this kind of "common courtesy" reminds me of people who get to a four way stop before the other cars, but then insist on telling the other cars to go first. there's already an order in place that's very simple to follow, and while you might have good intentions, you're just making it harder on everyone. don't come into the thread right after a new episode airs if you haven't watched the episode. if you do come into the thread and get spoiled, that's on you. 

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[notre dame joe 186]

3 hours ago, Texzilla58 said:

Kim to Nebraska is not apparent to me. She only had bad memories there. I’m not speculating nothing; we’re all going to get bamboozled.

It's not mandatory.  Hell Lalo could show up seeking revenge and a cinnamon roll. 

[Al_4_ISU 12447]

Not to keep hyping this guy's channel but he knows his shit.  This brings up some laughable theories but also some pretty good ones, the last one I could see happening.
 

That was pretty good.

I think Kim is alive post BB and is connected to whoever is following Gene in Omaha. I think her and Jimmie/Gene have some kind of encounter where they know the other is alive, and that’s the end of it. No embrace, no getting back together. Just knowledge of each other’s continued existence

[RPM 26315]

7 hours ago, UTCzech III said:

Not to keep hyping this guy's channel but he knows his shit.  This brings up some laughable theories but also some pretty good ones, the last one I could see happening.

 

How about a tl/dr? I'm not spending 17 minutes watching fan fiction.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13508]

Maybe Alvarez will be like how Lalo was mentioned in BB and became a character on BCS. Alvarez will be used in the next prequel. It's set in the 1970s in Philly, where Jonathan Banks plays a 30 year old cop. Alvarez is the bad guy.

[SizzleChest 8283]

5 hours ago, shadow_operative said:

if someone hasn't seen the episode then they shouldn't come clicking on the thread where everyone is talking about the episode. 🤷🏼‍♂️ 

this kind of "common courtesy" reminds me of people who get to a four way stop before the other cars, but then insist on telling the other cars to go first. there's already an order in place that's very simple to follow, and while you might have good intentions, you're just making it harder on everyone. don't come into the thread right after a new episode airs if you haven't watched the episode. if you do come into the thread and get spoiled, that's on you. 

I don't post in spoilers forever.  I post in spoilers for a day after the episode. That post was right after the show ended, within minutes.  And just like people shouldn't click on a thread if they don't want key details revealed, you don't have to click on my spoiler tagged post. 

You get bothered by the stupidest crap.  I'm sure you are a blast at 4 way stops.

[UTCzech III 2907]

I dvr it and purposefully wait until it's over so I can zip through the commercials (amazing how fast the show goes by that way).  I don't look at twitter, I don't pull up this thread, nothing, until I've watched the episode.  Then I get online for reaction and comments.  It's pretty easy to not get spoiled if you don't want to.