Better Call Saul: Season 6

[TexasMan 10914]

33 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

My goodness, Kim steered hard into that Florida woman stereotype. The jean skirt was perfect. 
 

If Jimmy was serious about not getting caught he would have whacked Marion. He’s already done so many terrible things, might as well take the next step. 

I look forward to what they talk about in the podcast tomorrow about what was going through Pete's head at that time. 

[dcbc 14487]

Yep yep yep!  That was fantastic start to finish. 

[Chewbacca 7780]

Blonde ponytail Kim > brunette Florida Kim.

[tbone_ 14128]

Well yea

[SizzleChest 8284]

Kim/Jesse payoff was worth the wait.

[WBT 20614]

Ask jeeves ftw

[shadow_operative 15932]

i keep noticing how much gene's house looks like jesse's house on the inside.

Edited August 9, 2022 by shadow_operative

[atomheartbevo 89727]

5 hours ago, horngrad03 said:

Holy shit.

4 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Emmy.  Well deserved just for this episode.  

There will be riots if she doesn't win.

 

[tx 3 putt 77060]

6 hours ago, horngrad03 said:

Holy shit.

 

palabra !

[tx 3 putt 77060]

3 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Blonde ponytail Kim > brunette Florida Kim.

 

brunette kim is much dirtier, hell she goes go outback 

 

 

that might be the best episode of the entire breaking bad / better call saul series

 

wow 

Edited August 9, 2022 by tx 3 putt

[RPM 26322]

6 hours ago, dcbc said:

Yep yep yep! 

I could feel Kim's soul melting during that.

[dcbc 14487]

3 hours ago, RPM said:

I could feel Kim's soul melting during that.

Yep yep yep is Surly motto worthy.

[Red Five 40862]

8 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Blonde ponytail Kim > brunette Florida Kim.

She looks like Margot Kidder.

[jdhorn92 1552]

Jimmy really broke dark. Great episode. I thought he was going to strangle Marion. I suppose another call to the vacuum repairman is the only option at this point, if it’s not too late. 

[Lurch 5931]

Jimmy really broke dark. Great episode. I thought he was going to strangle Marion. I suppose another call to the vacuum repairman is the only option at this point, if it’s not too late. 

It was in the teaser at the end of credits

[Lurch 5931]

My read is that he got to the front door and remembered he’d broken in via the back door. Recalled he had to go steal something (watches) to cover the identity theft. Yeah?

And Carol telling him that she trusted him must have made him flash back to the old lady he befriended/betrayed for the Sandpiper settlement

[jdhorn92 1552]

15 minutes ago, Lurch said:

It was in the teaser at the end of credits

Oh gotcha, I must have missed it

[Lurch 5931]

Why did he play the piano key?

[jeevsie 3734]

9 hours ago, WBT said:

Ask jeeves ftw

Always

[BigOrange1 6442]

7 minutes ago, Lurch said:

Why did he play the piano key?

wasn't it to see if the guy moved or anything at the sound of noise?

[Lurch 5931]

wasn't it to see if the guy moved or anything at the sound of noise?

Yeah but what was the plan if it woke him up? It was seemingly unnecessary, and felt like he was self sabotaging

[BigOrange1 6442]

i think he could have been out of the house before the guy had a chance to recognize him if it had woken him up.  i certainly know i've been awoken from a drunken stuper by a random noise and typically just roll over and go back to sleep.  i wouldn't have time to identify someone i only knew from drinking with hours before in 3-4 seconds.

[dcbc 14487]

2 hours ago, Lurch said:

Why did he play the piano key?

While the obvious answer is to see if the guy would wake up, it reminded me of this single, repeated piano key strike from some suspense or horror movie.  Maybe Hitchcock, but I think it's something else.  There's some very Hitchcockian music when he's sneaking past the guy on the stairs.  I think his striking that piano key was as much used to add tension to the very suspenseful scene given that we saw the police car at the end of the last episode.  So in the viewer's mind, Saul may be caught doing this.  Although if we've learned anything, those final scenes first often are used as a head fake. 

 

edit. The single-note piano bit I was remembering was The Firm.  No relationship to BCS, but used well in both.

Edited August 9, 2022 by dcbc

[GTX Horn 1708]

Loved the detail of the reflection of the Better Call Saul commercial being in color on Gene’s glasses when he saw what Marion was watching on her computer. I also noticed that the bank statement for the cancer guy showed that he had roughly $737,000 in his bank account, which was the same number Walt said he needed early in Breaking Bad. I’m sure there’s a lot more nuggets I didn’t catch but those were the 2 that stood out to me. Personally I thought this was the best episode of the season.

[Chewbacca 7780]

9 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

brunette kim is much dirtier, hell she goes go outback 

 

 

that might be the best episode of the entire breaking bad / better call saul series

 

wow 

For some reason, Florida Kim was a lot more soul crushing than Omaha Jimmy.

[tx 3 putt 77060]

3 hours ago, BigOrange1 said:

i think he could have been out of the house before the guy had a chance to recognize him if it had woken him up.  i certainly know i've been awoken from a drunken stuper by a random noise and typically just roll over and go back to sleep.  i wouldn't have time to identify someone i only knew from drinking with hours before in 3-4 seconds.

he lingered to gloat over his victory / win and it but him in the ass 

[notre dame joe 188]

15 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

My goodness, Kim steered hard into that Florida woman stereotype. The jean skirt was perfect. 
 

If Jimmy was serious about not getting caught he would have whacked Marion. He’s already done so many terrible things, might as well take the next step. 

He's never been violent though, he's a pussy who talks other people into doing things for him.

13 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Blonde ponytail Kim > brunette Florida Kim.

Color episodes > opaque b&w

[tbone_ 14128]

I saw it as basically a fuck you. To whoever.

[WBT 20614]

I've been thinking of last night's episode a lot today.  I keep going to the conversation after Howard was killed when Jimmy tells Kim that eventually you'll have a day when you don't think about it and then eventually things will go back to normal.  And for Jimmy I guess that happened during the events of Breaking Bad.  But Kim never really forgave herself and went to Florida to do penance.  The new guy, the new job, the coworkers, the office were all just so depressing.  But she realizes it's not enough when Jimmy calls her on not confessing either.  And then 6 years later she does and has the breakdown crying.  Wow, great stuff.

[gsoda3 3263]

they can't submit this episode for her emmy can they?

 

[WBT 20614]

2 minutes ago, gsoda3 said:

they can't submit this episode for her emmy can they?

 

Next year

[RPM 26322]

Not sure which one they did. This might fall into next year, which would be nice. She deserves 2 Emmys.

[UTCzech III 2907]

We still haven't seen the resolution of the teaser below (the audio portion), I think (Florida being Florida), Kim goes back and becomes a lawyer again.  Nothing to do with Gene, just moving on with her life.  Going back to the interview with Rich Schweigert, when she didn't want to end up working at the Piggly Wiggly, and he asked what she did want, and she answered, "More".  Right now she essentially is working at the Piggly Wiggly, and this her chance to reclaim her life.  

 

[UTCzech III 2907]

1 minute ago, RPM said:

Not sure which one they did. This might fall into next year, which would be nice. She deserves 2 Emmys.

That's one reason they split the season up.  So they could submit the first half for this year, and the 2nd half for next year.

[Native Horn 3504]

Just watched "Talking Saul" (the wrap-up after last night's episode with Bob, Rhea, Vince and Peter) and when asked for a three word synopsis of the finale next week, Bob/Jimmy/Saul/Gene said "hard one truth."  Or maybe "hard won truth."  Kinda of cryptic if you think about it. 

Can't fricking wait until next week, but will then have the sads when it's over.

[Trey3216 15347]

20 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

He's never been violent though, he's a pussy who talks other people into doing things for him.

Color episodes > opaque b&w

The b&w is a metaphor for the entirety of the series/BBUniverse, which is why the last group of episodes have all been B&W.  It's because Saul/Walter/Gustavo/Kim(to some extent) operated in the gray.  Harkens back to the company Gray Matter, which was the true root cause of punishing angst that broke Walter White bad.  This is just a tidy callback to how effed up these people are.   

[GTX Horn 1708]

17 minutes ago, WBT said:

I've been thinking of last night's episode a lot today.  I keep going to the conversation after Howard was killed when Jimmy tells Kim that eventually you'll have a day when you don't think about it and then eventually things will go back to normal.  And for Jimmy I guess that happened during the events of Breaking Bad.  But Kim never really forgave herself and went to Florida to do penance.  The new guy, the new job, the coworkers, the office were all just so depressing.  But she realizes it's not enough when Jimmy calls her on not confessing either.  And then 6 years later she does and has the breakdown crying.  Wow, great stuff.

I think the idea with the flash forward scene at the end of episode 9 right after they break up that shows Saul in his gaudy mansion with a hooker is supposed to be the first day he didn’t think about Kim and all the shit that went down with Lalo and Howard. I believe the director of that episode commented on Twitter that that scene was set in 2007.

[Trey3216 15347]

8 hours ago, RPM said:

I could feel Kim's soul melting during that.

Yep.  Lying on your back getting nailed by some sub-human saying "Yep.......Yep........Yep......." every few strokes has to make her die inside  a little with every thrust.  Just a gut wrenching scene.  

[HoustonFrog 368]

Yep.  Lying on your back getting nailed by some sub-human saying "Yep.......Yep........Yep......." every few strokes has to make her die inside  a little with every thrust.  Just a gut wrenching scene.  

That entire Florida sequence hit a little close to home (not Florida, but life). Thankfully I have kids so I can justify it

[Nice Guy Eddie 13515]

55 minutes ago, Chewbacca said:

For some reason, Florida Kim was a lot more soul crushing than Omaha Jimmy.

Florida Kim is a broken person. She used to be someone who would charge into a courtroom and control the room. Now she can't make a decision by herself or speak up. Miracle whip potato salad, blech. Of course she basically took her own advice to Jimmy and turned herself in.

Other points I noticed

• ABQ Jimmy used to be able to control older women like from Sandpiper Retirement. He manipulated them into hating each other, even to the point of falling on his sword that time so that the residents would start to like their friend again.
• In Omaha, Gene forgot to consider Marion. Marion was already suspecting Gene was off due to how he switched from being her friend to Jeff's. Going into the garage and then slipping up by mentioning ABQ. Perhaps having those early morning drinks was a bad choice. A better choice would have been to go over to Marion's and control the entire situation. Don't call her.
• I could root for BCS Jimmy or even BB Saul, but Omaha Gene is just a bad person. Not murdering Marion is not something to cheer for him. And his recent recklessness (mall cameras, going back to that house and then hanging around too long) demonstrate how bad he's slipped. While different, I feel for him like I did with Ziggy from the Wire.
• I need to rewatch the Kim/Jesse scene. Something there must have impacted Kim since she still had the power lawyer ponytail for the last time. Jesse changed her.
• I think calling the vacuum cleaner was a misdirect. One Robert Forester is dead IRL but more importantly, Saul isn't going to have the Jesse ending from El Camino. He hasn't earned the redemption. 

My prediction is that we see some glimpse of potential redemption for Kim. As for Jimmy I see one of two options. we see him leading a tough life in prison. Or he has an actual accident like falling into a well headfirst and dying alone. I doubt it will be a well, but something to that effect. Haunted by the ghosts of Chuck and Howard.  Or maybe slippin' Jimmy slips on the ice one last time.

Edited August 9, 2022 by Nice Guy Eddie

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

2 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I need to rewatch the Kim/Jesse scene. Something there must have impacted Kim since she still had the power lawyer ponytail for the last time. Jesse changed her.

 

Yeah, Saul's indifferent attitude towards her is what changed her.   I don't think it was anything Jesse said to her; just that in the course of their conversation (and Saul's dismissing her after the papers were signed) she realized what a sub-human he had became and she didn't want any part of him in her life from that day on.

[RPM 26322]

I predict we're all fucking wrong on the finale.

[Trey3216 15347]

12 minutes ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Florida Kim is a broken person. She used to be someone who would charge into a courtroom and control the room. Now she can't make a decision by herself or speak up. Miracle whip potato salad, blech. Of course she basically took her own advice to Jimmy and turned herself in.

Other points I noticed

• ABQ Jimmy used to be able to control older women like from Sandpiper Retirement. He manipulated them into hating each other, even to the point of falling on his sword that time so that the residents would start to like their friend again.
• In Omaha, Gene forgot to consider Marion. Marion was already suspecting Gene was off due to how he switched from being her friend to Jeff's. Going into the garage and then slipping up by mentioning ABQ. Perhaps having those early morning drinks was a bad choice. A better choice would have been to go over to Marion's and control the entire situation. Don't call her.
• I could root for BCS Jimmy or even BB Saul, but Omaha Gene is just a bad person. Not murdering Marion is not something to cheer for him. And his recent recklessness (mall cameras, going back to that house and then hanging around too long) demonstrate how bad he's slipped. While different, I feel for him like I did with Ziggy from the Wire.
• I need to rewatch the Kim/Jesse scene. Something there must have impacted Kim since she still had the power lawyer ponytail for the last time. Jesse changed her.
• I think calling the vacuum cleaner was a misdirect. One Robert Forester is dead IRL but more importantly, Saul isn't going to have the Jesse ending from El Camino. He hasn't earned the redemption. 

My prediction is that we see some glimpse of potential redemption for Kim. As for Jimmy I see one of two options. we see him leading a tough life in prison. Or he has an actual accident like falling into a well headfirst and dying alone. I doubt it will be a well, but something to that effect. Haunted by the ghosts of Chuck and Howard.  Or maybe slippin' Jimmy slips on the ice one last time.

I think maybe he wrecks the car, gets his leg pinned under it, and slowly freezes to death over a few days on some back road where he was trying to meet up with the eraser.  

[jeevsie 3734]

The b&w is foreshadowing to a fade to black ending. People eat that shit up.

[WBT 20614]

I'm trying to not have any particular expectations for the finale but I can't wait.  It will be hard to beat Walt sprawled out on the lab floor to "Baby Blue."

[HornPhD 1368]

32 minutes ago, Trey3216 said:

Yep.  Lying on your back getting nailed by some sub-human saying "Yep.......Yep........Yep......." every few strokes has to make her die inside  a little with every thrust.  Just a gut wrenching scene.  

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=edFocxTsUKI

 

Edited August 9, 2022 by HornPhD
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[dcbc 14487]

16 minutes ago, jeevsie said:

The b&w is foreshadowing to a fade to black ending. People eat that shit up.

And then they'll argue about whether Tony is dead.

 

Oh, wait.  Wrong thread.

[PantsTent 2002]

Obviously there is still one big surprise cameo left.  Walt Jr. gets the money from Gretchen on his 18th birthday and opens a 24hr breakfast diner.

 

[Francisco 2.0 32395]

55 minutes ago, RPM said:

I predict we're all fucking wrong on the finale.

Oh, no doubt.  Who here had Kim becoming what she did?  Getting attached to yep man?  He's several magnitudes below what she could fetch, and she is so damaged that she's accepting of her fate?

 

 

 

[MissingInAction 25106]

1 hour ago, Trey3216 said:

Yep.  Lying on your back getting nailed by some sub-human saying "Yep.......Yep........Yep......." every few strokes has to make her die inside  a little with every thrust.  Just a gut wrenching scene.  

Fuuuu, I had blocked that out. 

That dude needs a pegging.