Ukraine War

[wildcat09 29338]

10 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Putin blew up and full passenger plane and has murdered dozens of journalists in Russia and abroad. Why are conservatives supporting this murderous thug?

Because those are things they like.

[Zeus 6012]

4 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

No.

Economic depression was coming, war is an easy sell with Democrats in office. Lock step the media and all the big corporations will push for war. 

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/joe-biden-wins-world-war-three/

20 year contacts all ran out in Afghanistan, time to write some new ones.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20389]

[David Dennison 18837]

1 minute ago, Zeus said:

Economic depression was coming, war is an easy sell with Democrats in office. Lock step the media and all the big corporations will push for war. 

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/joe-biden-wins-world-war-three/

20 year contacts all ran out in Afghanistan, time to write some new ones.

The economy isn't cooperating on the the depression front.

The Fed might start a recession, though.

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

59 minutes ago, brakeman said:

eat shit, fuckhead.

I get it now why you can’t tell which political cartoons are funny and which ones aren’t. 

[Satchel 6925]

10 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Because those are things they like.

Perhaps some of those lurking will come out of hiding to explain. Their support for his murderous regime is stupefying.

[Bullneck 19070]

29 minutes ago, HRSchenker said:

If the Ukrainians don't fight back, welcome to World War 3 

I don't think so.  (Unless they have oil I don't know about).  The best outcome is 1) enough Russians come home in body bags to create some unrest and 2) the freeze of every oligarch's bank account forces a showdown between them and Putin.  

That's not much, and I think it'll fuck up the world economy and kill a lot of Ukrainians needlessly, but that's what's coming.

[RomaVicta 29891]

1 hour ago, Brandywine said:

Wrong. Trump did everything he could to support Putin during his four years and is also now praising Putin for his actions. Trump is nothing but a traitor and should be treated as such. He’s loving this. 

 

1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

hilarious.  keep goin down with that ship.

We actually are going down with that ship as you laugh your ass off supporting the torpedo that punched the hull.

The world is the NFL and you stick with your team through thick and thin as a point of pride. Jackass.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

This is fun.  The replies are great.

 

 

[Zeus 6012]

32 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You are rooting against democracy in favor of authoritarianism just to own the libs.

Bravo.

I'm rooting for Ukraine, but not to be a CIA puppet or Russian puppet.

Hopefully they get as many Ukrainians out before it becomes like Libya, Yemen, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Syria, Afghanistan ect...

 

[6th Street 6389]

I think it's time for the Pentagon to unleash full on cyber warfare on Russia. And the West needs to halt all trade and freeze all Russian assets ASAP. 

[Willfully Horn 7995]

1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

hilarious.  keep goin down with that ship.

 

[Satchel 6925]

3 minutes ago, 6th Street said:

I think it's time for the Pentagon to unleash full on cyber warfare on Russia. And the West needs to halt all trade and freeze all Russian assets ASAP. 

For the U.S. and its European allies, cutting Russia out of the SWIFT financial system, which shuffles money from bank to bank around the globe, would be one of the toughest financial steps they could take, damaging Russia’s economy immediately and in the long term. The move could cut Russia off from most international financial transactions, including international profits from oil and gas production, which in all accounts for more than 40% of the country’s revenue.

https://time.com/6150323/ukraine-sanctions-us-russia/

[Willfully Horn 7995]

1 hour ago, dcar00 said:

no one is "rooting" for Russia.  Biden isn’t knob slobbering.

Fify

[Satchel 6925]

In the wake of Russian attack, Russia’s Central Bank Steps In to Halt Ruble Slide as Markets in Freefall.

[Captainant 27618]

Something that may be an interesting thread for tomorrow:

 

 

[Captainant 27618]

And Ukraine starting to knock em down. Fuck em up!

 

 

[Willfully Horn 7995]

Here’s hoping the Germans sleep comfortably tonight, with an extra bottle of schnapps to quiet whatever qualms they might have.

[hobbes2702 13028]

7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Something that may be an interesting thread for tomorrow:

 

 

Crafty

[hobbes2702 13028]

4 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

I just checked Fox News.  It was apparently disgusting earlier when Trump and Ingraham were on, and I’m thankful I missed that, but it’s still a little surreal.  Their correspondent in Kiev is wearing protective gear, clearly scared, and reporting of Russian ground troops coming in from Belarus 100 miles from Kiev where bloody urban warfare is likely to follow.

And then Shannon Bream in the studio has her usual smiley cheery demeanor.   I mean, at least pretend to be concerned for your own reporter if nothing else, you sociopath.  Bret Baier keeps trying to steer her into being more somber, saying things like prayers for the Ukrainian people and their correspondents on the ground, and she just keeps on with the vapid beauty queen tone.  It is just weird.

I switched earlier and she had some question to Bret about Trump being an unknown so no dared step outta line in the world. He was almost caught off guard and just steered away to broader discussion about sanctions. It’s truly surreal 

[Blotto 23484]

6 minutes ago, longhornmatt said:

And then Shannon Bream in the studio has her usual smiley cheery demeanor.   I mean, at least pretend to be concerned for your own reporter if nothing else, you sociopath.  Bret Baier keeps trying to steer her into being more somber, saying things like prayers for the Ukrainian people and their correspondents on the ground, and she just keeps on with the vapid beauty queen tone.  It is just weird.

We got the bubble-headed bleached-blonde, comes on at five
She can tell you 'bout the plane crash with a gleam in her eye
It's interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

[F250 28760]

34 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Something that may be an interesting thread for tomorrow:

 

 

lol Russia has the Soviet Union's nukes which means they inherit the Soviet seat.

 

[atomheartbevo 89618]

3 hours ago, Brandywine said:

Wrong. Trump did everything he could to support Putin during his four years and is also now praising Putin for his actions. Trump is nothing but a traitor and should be treated as such. He’s loving this. 

What if the West really puts the screws on Russian financial systems?

Would Trump love that?  If they loaned money to Trump, maybe he gets a reprieve in payments/interest or whatever.

But both Don Jr and Eric Trump bragged openly in interviews about how much Russian money flows into Trump properties.  If it's as substantial as they both implied, that would be a spigot they might not want turned off.

I wonder if Trump was cheering on Putin because he's pressuring Republicans to push back against anything Biden does against Russia.

[Gidnik 3268]

ive been a conservative my whole life but never a republican.  putin is nothing but a fucking kgb hitman and we have allowed him to do his bullshit for far too long.  I pray the fucking sanctions announced tomorrow will truly hit hard but i doubt it. 

 

[mchookem 16318]

1 hour ago, Satchel said:

Perhaps some of those lurking will come out of hiding to explain. Their support for his murderous regime is stupefying.

not until the next Breaking News of ol' Sleepy Joe stumbling over another word! the real important stuff!

[NWBuck 8551]

56 minutes ago, Captainant said:

And Ukraine starting to knock em down. Fuck em up!

 

 

Wolverines! 

[WhatTheBuck 28771]

A missile strike on this place wouldn’t suck.

[Horn Under a Bad Sign 20389]

 

[pyrohornIII 4814]

3 hours ago, TexArcher said:

Innocent people, who happen to be our allies, are being bombed right now, and Trump and Fox News are using this tragedy to score political points against a sitting United States president, and they're twisting the truth to do it.

If you are not outraged by that, regardless of your politics, you are an awful American. Full stop.  You're fucking awful.

Sitting silent while Trump abandoned the Kurds should have given us full indication of how Trumpkins would react to any move of aggression Putin made.  

1 hour ago, 6th Street said:

I think it's time for the Pentagon to unleash full on cyber warfare on Russia. And the West needs to halt all trade and freeze all Russian assets ASAP. 

I would love to see Trump's Russian financed assets anywhere in the world seized and any funds made off of them used to fund defense moves against Russian aggression.

[pyrohornIII 4814]

23 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

Yeah they don't like LGBTQ nor anyone of color.  

[Fastbreak 3973]

it's like all R politician/speakers are bad stand up comics from the 80's trying to come up with takes to get themselves noticed for a shot on Carson...

 

Every day I wonder "can they even go lower today?" and the answer is always "yes"

[Hermanator 7031]

3 hours ago, hobbes2702 said:

So walk me through that, what does an occupation of Ukraine look like? Are we talking years worth of conflict even if it’s just small scale? Is this Iraq for them? Is it worse?

Logistically it's a lot better for them than Iraq and Afghanistan were for us.  Chances are they take control of some of Ukraine and it becomes messy with civil war not too different than what the US did in the middle east. 

Unfortunately, 2 straight decades of invading sovereign middle eastern nations doesn't give the US any real leg to stand on to criticize this too harshly and be taken seriously by anyone else in the world. 

This isn't starting some world war. Every leader, including Putin, knows how badly that will be for them and they all know no one wants to cross that line now with the world all nuked up. 

Although there's zero doubt in my mind that nukes are the only thing that's kept another world war or 2 from happening between 1945 and now. 

[Biff Tannen 45660]

1 hour ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:

 

I’m not sure how Erik prince isn’t in shackles. 

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

^Buzzfeed news reporter

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

 

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-24/bank-of-russia-rolls-out-first-emergency-measures-as-ruble-dives

Edited February 24, 2022 by Hugo Stiglitz

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Swine

[Shaddie 1651]

6 hours ago, dcar00 said:

no one is "rooting" for Russia.  Biden is just an idiot.

@putinishitler @putinloveshitler 

dcar00 loves Putin 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Shaddie

[Biff Tannen 45660]

Oh shit, Hugo lives. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21168]

6 hours ago, dcar00 said:

Russia Russia Russia.  Russian meddling, yada yada yada.  its all bullshit and had been proven as such.  in fact it was actually Hill's doing it.  so hilarious.

You're a coward and a traitor. 

[Biff Tannen 45660]

43 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

You're a coward and a traitor. 

Likely response: I know you are, but what am I?

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Here’s to hoping Putin finds a high window to fall out of today. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

I understand that taking Russia out of SWIFT was off the table for the first round of sanctions, which were already announced.  Given Putin's moves this AM Russia time, I imagine that it is very much on the table now and would make a whole lotta fucking sense.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Full embargo should be on the table. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

23 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Full embargo should be on the table. 

I completely agree.  

[hornmpa96 2618]

I think we are going to be disappointed in the sanctions levied. The US is already indicating that impacting energy exports is off the table and EU members are already positioning to protect any of their specific industries. Putin is betting the west doesn’t have the spine to make any real sanctions stick.

[Bama Chick 28596]

I get it now why you can’t tell which political cartoons are funny and which ones aren’t. 

[DigglerontheHoof 21168]

11 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

I think we are going to be disappointed in the sanctions levied. The US is already indicating that impacting energy exports is off the table and EU members are already positioning to protect any of their specific industries. Putin is betting the west doesn’t have the spine to make any real sanctions stick.

Agree.  Ukraine will end up Russian and the U. S. and it's allies will do nada but bitch.  We learned a lot from WWII.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

We need some Reagan-esque funding of Russian contras kind of thing.  Figure out who in the country is best to topple the existing government and start sneaking them stuff.  

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

I bet GWB releases some generic support statement once we’ve committed to a plan as a jab to trump how past presidents are supposed to act. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19100]

38 minutes ago, hornmpa96 said:

I think we are going to be disappointed in the sanctions levied. The US is already indicating that impacting energy exports is off the table and EU members are already positioning to protect any of their specific industries. Putin is betting the west doesn’t have the spine to make any real sanctions stick.

I think this is where the rubber meets the road.  I think everyone is going to have some pain if you want to put Russia down, which is what is needed.  Obviously, the thread of sanctions wasn't enough. He invaded anyway.  We are in a very different place today vs. a few days ago.  The sanctions now must be debilitating, otherwise, they are meaningless and sanctions will never act as a deterrent ever again.