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14 minutes ago, linux said:

There is such a thing as hedging your bets, another on throwing money away, its like he is betting the moneyline on the underdog but asking the house to keep the winnings if they do win.

Donald Trump will follow Russia in anything it wants, that is about as certain as the sun rises.

I think the real explanation is that the GOP congresscritters (who BTW lick benito's ass daily) demanded he do it if they want their votes.

Congress plays a part, but Trump is a vacuum, a sucking hole of self-obsession and narcissism devoid of any guiding feeling or principle other than Will They Say Good Things About Trump and Will Trump Win. 
 

I believe this also true of his relationship with VVP.  Trump is essentially un-blackmailable because he is devoid of shame.  You cannot “have something” on Trump that is worse than what Trump announces. He sometimes likes Putin because Putin is a Tough Guy who calls Trump “sir.”  If he can be convinced it’s better for Trump, he’ll back Ukraine. 
 

It was Trump and not Obama that first delivered lethal aid to Ukraine.  That’s not a defense of him, it’s simply that he’s thoughtless and someone told him it was a good idea. 

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On 9/26/2024 at 3:08 PM, Loch Ness Monster said:

Why do you guys think Trump is Pro Putin?

1) Russian mafia money laundering ties from back in the day

2) Zelensky is supported by Biden and Kamala so in turn Zelensky is not an ally. Trump also got impeached over Ukraine.

3) Trump loves authoritarian dictators

4) All of the above 

5) Other

Always lead with the most venal and stupid reason. 2.  He associates Zelenskyy and Ukraine with People who Don’t Like Trump and Bad Things that Happened to Trump. 
 

He likes dictators but it’s in the way a six year old likes dinosaurs— they are big and scary and don’t have any rules.  He hasn’t thought more about it. 

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23 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Congress plays a part, but Trump is a vacuum, a sucking hole of self-obsession and narcissism devoid of any guiding feeling or principle other than Will They Say Good Things About Trump and Will Trump Win. 
 

I believe this also true of his relationship with VVP.  Trump is essentially un-blackmailable because he is devoid of shame.  You cannot “have something” on Trump that is worse than what Trump announces. He sometimes likes Putin because Putin is a Tough Guy who calls Trump “sir.”  If he can be convinced it’s better for Trump, he’ll back Ukraine. 
 

It was Trump and not Obama that first delivered lethal aid to Ukraine.  That’s not a defense of him, it’s simply that he’s thoughtless and someone told him it was a good idea. 

The reason I disagree with this is that Putin is literally the one person whom Trump has NEVER spoken negatively of in public. Even the other dictators he clearly likes, like Xi and Kim, he'll still talk a bit of shit about sometimes (and used to before they paid him off with money/praise).  But not Putin. He's always been very careful to never say anything remotely negative about Putin.  And the photos after their meeting in Finland were clear, Trump looked fucking terrified after their meeting.  Putin absolutely has something on him that he'll do anything to keep secret. 

ETA: Trump didn't "deliver" lethal aide to Ukraine. Congress passed that with a veto-proof supermajority and Trump still held it up to try to extort Zelennskyy for his own personal ends. Once that went public and he couldn't really keep holding it up, his administration began delivering weapons but that was in spite of him, not because of him.

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52 minutes ago, pacman said:

It is crazy, right?

The Christian conservative right led the communist scare and anti-Russian propaganda in the United States for decades.

Now, they are the Russian propaganda.

Don’t bother me none.  They got this one right.

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14 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The reason I disagree with this is that Putin is literally the one person whom Trump has NEVER spoken negatively of in public. Even the other dictators he clearly likes, like Xi and Kim, he'll still talk a bit of shit about sometimes (and used to before they paid him off with money/praise).  But not Putin. He's always been very careful to never say anything remotely negative about Putin.  And the photos after their meeting in Finland were clear, Trump looked fucking terrified after their meeting.  Putin absolutely has something on him that he'll do anything to keep secret. 

ETA: Trump didn't "deliver" lethal aide to Ukraine. Congress passed that with a veto-proof supermajority and Trump still held it up to try to extort Zelennskyy for his own personal ends. Once that went public and he couldn't really keep holding it up, his administration began delivering weapons but that was in spite of him, not because of him.

The Kremlin has been cultivating Trump for a long time and I imagine Putin has plenty of carrots and sticks in his psychological arsenal to manipulate Trump.  
 

Dude is a walking erection that constantly has money problems and is a complete imbecile.  Possibly the easiest mark of all time. 

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1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

I think that's a better hypothesis.  He knows he'll never get Trump to do the right thing, but some MAGA idiot congresscritters are still salvageable for his purposes (vote yes on weapons funding).

I think there is also a bit of "tell me to my face."  Trump might say something different when looking Z in the face.  Trump might also say something stupid (like "it takes two to tango") that would increase Harris's odds. At the very least, it puts Ukraine in the news and Z can't risk Americans forgetting about the war.  

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25 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

The reason I disagree with this is that Putin is literally the one person whom Trump has NEVER spoken negatively of in public. Even the other dictators he clearly likes, like Xi and Kim, he'll still talk a bit of shit about sometimes (and used to before they paid him off with money/praise).  But not Putin. He's always been very careful to never say anything remotely negative about Putin.  And the photos after their meeting in Finland were clear, Trump looked fucking terrified after their meeting.  Putin absolutely has something on him that he'll do anything to keep secret. 

ETA: Trump didn't "deliver" lethal aide to Ukraine. Congress passed that with a veto-proof supermajority and Trump still held it up to try to extort Zelennskyy for his own personal ends. Once that went public and he couldn't really keep holding it up, his administration began delivering weapons but that was in spite of him, not because of him.

I don’t put it out of the question, just don’t think it’s necessary.  Putin has also been the only one who has carefully and consistently played every note that Trump wants to hear while Xi and Rocket Man have not.  Down to the masterful “endorsement” of Harris.  Putin is a KGB man and is smart in a certain way. Manipulation of stupid, narcissistic Westerners is a core competency. 

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1 hour ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Dude is a walking erection that constantly has money problems and is a complete imbecile.  Possibly the easiest mark of all time. 

This is spot-on, and don't overthink it - although add "easily flattered and thus easily manipulated narcissist," that's an important element too.  If you were to go into a lab to create "the perfect mark to turn into an asset," the product would look almost exactly like Donald Trump.

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Zelensky and Trump meet. Trump tries to go for the power play and stands up straight, looks down at him. Zelensky stares back and says wow, you are tall, but my hands are bigger.

Trump fumes and takes it out on a 20 pack of McNuggets his Secret Service agent carries instead of extra ammo.

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Just now, Parliament said:

Guys, all is not lost.  Plenty of pro-Ukrainian Republicans in Congress.  And plenty more who can be bought off.  We still might win this thing.

Bullshit.  Ukraine is toast and so is NATO.  

I hope for Europe's sake, they're ready to face Russia with the U.S. as Russia's ally. 

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2 minutes ago, Mo Horn said:

So is the war over? Dotard said he was going to end it the day after the election, if he won? 

He might as well. He's been conversing and negotiating with foreign enemies for quite some time now.

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1 minute ago, blacklab said:

I voted for Harris. I hate Trump almost as much as you do. 

I removed the posts that have peoples political opinions that go here. 

Stating the man's own words and policy positions isn't a political opinion, but whatever keeps the peace with the fascists I guess

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4 hours ago, Parliament said:

Guys, all is not lost.  Plenty of pro-Ukrainian Republicans in Congress.  And plenty more who can be bought off.  We still might win this thing.

They've already been bought by Russia

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4 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Bullshit.  Ukraine is toast and so is NATO.  

I hope for Europe's sake, they're ready to face Russia with the U.S. as Russia's ally. 

Ukraine, Gaza and Taiwan are all fucked.  NATO, too.

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4 hours ago, Parliament said:

Guys, all is not lost.  Plenty of pro-Ukrainian Republicans in Congress.  And plenty more who can be bought off.  We still might win this thing.

That doesn't matter, because this:

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enlighten me, what’s broke ass russia going to do with any newly acquired lands ?

Launch an attack from them 18 months later. Because promises between Putin and Trump are non-binding. No CR, this is a serious post. That’s what they’ll do.
Oh…..and Russia won’t be broke for long. They’re about to get a large path to lots of cash.
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On 11/6/2024 at 1:43 PM, DigglerontheHoof said:

Putin's bitch.  Which means, by extension, the U.S. is now Russia's whore.

All b/c some pussy ass white cunts feel threatened by women and brown people. 

A little racist there, aren't you little man?

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7 hours ago, Parliament said:

Rape the women, kidnap the children, conscript the men, eat the dogs, extract the resources.

Occupied land is almost all evacuated, sure Crimiea is still occupied but that was before the war. Ukraine trading Kursk land  for Odessa land with Russia is not the end of the world. But it is clear Putin won in installing Trump.

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1 hour ago, Chad Fuck said:

Fuck.  To that fucking guy, that looks like a dare.

 

1 hour ago, mdmost said:

Oh no, Trump definitely won't want that to happen.....

Y'all gotta be really careful taking Putt's tweets to heart. He posts a bunch of bogus shit without bothering to fact-check before spamming the board.

This has been debunked and you'll also note the above xit has been deleted.

 

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There is no mechanism in NATO to eject member states.

I’m pretty sure all current nations would have to approve the change if they wanted to add this option.

Very doubtful countries like Turkey and Hungary would approve something like this.

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I'm pretty sure Congress passed a bill that prevents the President from pulling out of NATO, without Senate/Congressional approval. Doesn't mean he'll defend the Baltics, but he no longer has the unilateral authority to pull out.  If anything is going to save our participation in NATO it's going to be sweet talk from the Poles to Trump and the next Germany leader getting on their knees and getting to work on Trump. 

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I guess if Trump stops all aid to Ukraine in January, then Ukraine can take out the utility and power facilities in Moscow and St. Petersburg this winter.   Whatever constraints Washington DC had on Ukraine policy in return for military aid will no longer be a thing.     I’d expect Moscow to go after Ukraine’s power plant and grid as soon as Trump takes over.   The wildcard to me is how much pressure Trump will put on our allies not to help Ukraine. 

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4 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I guess if Trump stops all aid to Ukraine in January, then Ukraine can take out the utility and power facilities in Moscow and St. Petersburg this winter.   Whatever constraints Washington DC had on Ukraine policy in return for military aid will no longer be a thing.     I’d expect Moscow to go after Ukraine’s power plant and grid as soon as Trump takes over.   The wildcard to me is how much pressure Trump will put on our allies not to help Ukraine. 

I think this accurately sums it up.  Putin only held back because he was unsure of how Biden would react.  Putin knows that fucking guy will do whatever he wants.  He will be unrestrained.  It's on Europe now. 

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