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14 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The Senate GOP bravely pushes back.

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“Look, the president has the mind of a fifth grade boy whose parents haven’t yet accepted that something’s off. But a lot of you have undiagnosed oppositional defiance disorder and so you seem to vibe with that.” 

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Hopefully this war and the needless loss of life will come to an end quickly. 
 
 

“Hopefully Ukraine will unconditionally surrender its land and sovereignty to an autocratic invader.”
FIFY.
Peace is not the absence of conflict.
Imagine Ana rooting this hard for “peace” in a nation that the US invaded as a naked land grab. Fantastic.
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59 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Hopefully this war and the needless loss of life will come to an end quickly. 

 

 

There’s one simple way for it to end. 
 

But we all know that’s not what you’re implying here. 

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

Hopefully this war and the needless loss of life will come to an end quickly. And Russia be defeated so that they will never again be able to attack sovereign nations on their borders and kill and rape and torture so many civilians in their attacks, nor steal children and bring them back to Russia, as is their normal behavior.

 

 

Weird Ani. Some of your post got cut off.

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FUCK YOU MUSK-TRUMP. Threatening to take away life saving technology that essentially costs us nothing so Ukraine can give us half of their natural resources FOREVER. FUCK! “Critical resources” my fucking ass. They’re critical to Ukraine, not us

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-could-cut-ukraines-access-starlink-internet-services-over-minerals-say-2025-02-22/

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US negotiators told Ukraine US could shutoff Starlink if minerals deal not reached

SpaceX-owned satellite internet service vital for Ukraine

Zelenskiy says U.S. and Ukraine working on an agreement

WASHINGTON, Feb 21 (Reuters) - U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.

Ukraine's continued access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the sources said…

The issue was raised again on Thursday during meetings between Keith Kellogg, the U.S. special Ukraine envoy, and Zelenskiy, said one of the sources, who was briefed on the talks.

During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the service if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations.

"Ukraine runs on Starlink. They consider it their North Star," said the source. "Losing Starlink ... would be a massive blow."

Zelenskiy has rejected demands from President Donald Trump's administration for $500 billion in mineral wealth from Ukraine to repay Washington for wartime aid, saying the U.S. has offered no specific security guarantees.

On Friday, the Ukrainian president said the U.S. and Ukrainian teams were working on an agreement and Trump said he expects a deal will be signed soon.

Musk rushed thousands of Starlink terminals to Ukraine to replace communications services destroyed by Russia after its February 2022 invasion. Hailed as a hero in Ukraine, Musk later curtailed access at least once before in the fall of 2022 as he became more critical of Kyiv's handling of the war.

U.S. lawmakers are divided over Trump's efforts to find a quick end to the Ukraine war and some have raised questions about Musk's rapid-fire efforts to cull thousands of federal workers and shut down Federal agencies.

Melinda Haring, a senior fellow with the Atlantic Council, said Starlink was essential for Ukraine’s operation of drones, a key pillar of its military strategy.

“Losing Starlink would be a game changer,” Haring said, noting that Ukraine was now at 1:1 parity with Russia in terms of drone usage and artillery shells. Ukraine has a wide range of different drone capabilities, ranging from sea drones and surveillance drones to long-range unmanned aerial vehicles.…….…..

 

 

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FUCK YOU MUSK-TRUMP. Threatening to take away life saving technology that essentially costs us nothing so Ukraine can give us half of their natural resources FOREVER. FUCK! “Critical resources” my fucking ass. They’re critical to Ukraine, not us
https://www.reuters.com/business/us-could-cut-ukraines-access-starlink-internet-services-over-minerals-say-2025-02-22/
US negotiators told Ukraine US could shutoff Starlink if minerals deal not reached
SpaceX-owned satellite internet service vital for Ukraine
Zelenskiy says U.S. and Ukraine working on an agreement
WASHINGTON, Feb 21 (Reuters) - U.S. negotiators pressing Kyiv for access to Ukraine's critical minerals have raised the possibility of cutting the country's access to Elon Musk's vital Starlink satellite internet system, three sources familiar with the matter told Reuters.
Ukraine's continued access to SpaceX-owned Starlink was brought up in discussions between U.S. and Ukrainian officials after Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy turned down an initial proposal from U.S. Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent, the sources said…
The issue was raised again on Thursday during meetings between Keith Kellogg, the U.S. special Ukraine envoy, and Zelenskiy, said one of the sources, who was briefed on the talks.
During the meeting, Ukraine was told it faced imminent shutoff of the service if it did not reach a deal on critical minerals, said the source, who requested anonymity to discuss closed negotiations.
"Ukraine runs on Starlink. They consider it their North Star," said the source. "Losing Starlink ... would be a massive blow."
Zelenskiy has rejected demands from President Donald Trump's administration for $500 billion in mineral wealth from Ukraine to repay Washington for wartime aid, saying the U.S. has offered no specific security guarantees.
On Friday, the Ukrainian president said the U.S. and Ukrainian teams were working on an agreement and Trump said he expects a deal will be signed soon.
Musk rushed thousands of Starlink terminals to Ukraine to replace communications services destroyed by Russia after its February 2022 invasion. Hailed as a hero in Ukraine, Musk later curtailed access at least once before in the fall of 2022 as he became more critical of Kyiv's handling of the war.
U.S. lawmakers are divided over Trump's efforts to find a quick end to the Ukraine war and some have raised questions about Musk's rapid-fire efforts to cull thousands of federal workers and shut down Federal agencies.
Melinda Haring, a senior fellow with the Atlantic Council, said Starlink was essential for Ukraine’s operation of drones, a key pillar of its military strategy.
“Losing Starlink would be a game changer,” Haring said, noting that Ukraine was now at 1:1 parity with Russia in terms of drone usage and artillery shells. Ukraine has a wide range of different drone capabilities, ranging from sea drones and surveillance drones to long-range unmanned aerial vehicles.…….…..
 
 

No, see….crippling Ukraine if it worn agree to hand over its wealth is the surest path to “peace” like Ana wants. Trust Ana. He loves peace. The fact that he manages to side with autocrats 100% of the time in furtherance of “peace” (defined as “rolling over and submitting to autocrat invaders”) is just a coincidence.
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Posted
3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Hopefully this war and the needless loss of life will come to an end quickly. 

 

 

“Hopefully these needless deaths on our highways will come to an end quickly”

-TxTow

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33 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

“Hopefully these needless deaths on our highways will come to an end quickly”

-TxTow

The punchline is “us-led rules based international order”. But you have to click the play button. 

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24 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The punchline is “us-led rules based international order”. But you have to click the play button. 

No, you have missed the point. When you and the  “burn it all down” guys decided to burn it all down, the rules based international order was what you burned down, in the same way that TXTow* contributed to the most acute danger faced on the section of highway he was terrorizing.
 

*background, @TxTow was a middle aged poster on shaggybevo named Patrick Johnson who was so concerned about APD not catching drunk drivers that over the course of a few years he threw several hundred rocks into the windshields of cars on I35 that he presumed to be driven by drunks.  At one point he compared his skill at hitting windshields to kicker Jeff Ward. In his personal life he was also a sex pest who  preyed on younger men, and the time of his trial he was already serving prison time for sexual assault on children. So the “punchline” here is funny because it clearly insinuates that Anastasis is a homosexual pedophile. 

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It's shocking to see Ana endorsing the conquest of a weaker nation by an imperial aggressor. Wait, did I say shocking? I meant completely expected.

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he was also an expert on Texas towing laws and provided valuable information on how to fight illegal tows. quite the renaissance man lol

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1 minute ago, wildcat09 said:

It's shocking to see Ana endorsing the conquest of a weaker nation by an imperial aggressor. Wait, did I say shocking? I meant completely expected.

Not as shocking as watching neocon foreign policy once again resulting in exporting death and destruction throughout the world. 

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7 minutes ago, mchookem said:

he was also an expert on Texas towing laws and provided valuable information on how to fight illegal tows. quite the renaissance man lol

Terrorist, sex criminal, and useful resource on car towing and impoundment really is a diverse and eclectic combination. He contained multitudes. 

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Russia offers the peace of the graveyard and the order and structure of a prison. Ukrainians have decided they do not seek such peace and order. The cowardly and the craven seek to give away freedom that isn’t theirs to appease monsters they do not have to fight. 

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5 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Hopefully this war and the needless loss of life will come to an end quickly. 

 

 

putin can stop it whenever he wants 

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The display of true courage is stoking conflicts by proxy to effect totally wrong headed foreign policy aims. Great powers treating innocent bystanders as pawns on the board and absolutely nothing more. This is the true courage, coming from the jingos, the domestic war mongers, and the politically brain damaged, willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to achieve foreign policy goals that will ultimately be destructive to the long-term interests of America. Empty rhetoric about democracy and the rules-based order, bolstered by waves of propaganda, feasting on a lack of long-term attention span, fringing their garments with golden threads of righteousness. That's true courage. 

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12 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The display of true courage is stoking conflicts by proxy to effect totally wrong headed foreign policy aims. Great powers treating innocent bystanders as pawns on the board and absolutely nothing more. This is the true courage, coming from the jingos, the domestic war mongers, and the politically brain damaged, willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to achieve foreign policy goals that will ultimately be destructive to the long-term interests of America. Empty rhetoric about democracy and the rules-based order, bolstered by waves of propaganda, feasting on a lack of long-term attention span, fringing their garments with golden threads of righteousness. That's true courage. 

What is wrong about supporting Ukraine?

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15 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The display of true courage is stoking conflicts by proxy to effect totally wrong headed foreign policy aims. Great powers treating innocent bystanders as pawns on the board and absolutely nothing more. This is the true courage, coming from the jingos, the domestic war mongers, and the politically brain damaged, willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to achieve foreign policy goals that will ultimately be destructive to the long-term interests of America. Empty rhetoric about democracy and the rules-based order, bolstered by waves of propaganda, feasting on a lack of long-term attention span, fringing their garments with golden threads of righteousness. That's true courage. 

Real courage is burning a house  down to prove it was flammable. Braver still if you don’t have to live in it.

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53 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The display of true courage is stoking conflicts by proxy to effect totally wrong headed foreign policy aims. Great powers treating innocent bystanders as pawns on the board and absolutely nothing more. This is the true courage, coming from the jingos, the domestic war mongers, and the politically brain damaged, willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to achieve foreign policy goals that will ultimately be destructive to the long-term interests of America. Empty rhetoric about democracy and the rules-based order, bolstered by waves of propaganda, feasting on a lack of long-term attention span, fringing their garments with golden threads of righteousness. That's true courage. 

You're a true idiot.

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59 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

The display of true courage is stoking conflicts by proxy to effect totally wrong headed foreign policy aims. Great powers treating innocent bystanders as pawns on the board and absolutely nothing more. This is the true courage, coming from the jingos, the domestic war mongers, and the politically brain damaged, willing to fight to the last Ukrainian to achieve foreign policy goals that will ultimately be destructive to the long-term interests of America. Empty rhetoric about democracy and the rules-based order, bolstered by waves of propaganda, feasting on a lack of long-term attention span, fringing their garments with golden threads of righteousness. That's true courage. 

I don’t even understand what point you are trying to make in this word salad mess. Russia invaded Ukraine and tried to take the whole country by force. What exactly should the world have done in that scenario?

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4 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

I don’t even understand what point you are trying to make in this word salad mess. Russia invaded Ukraine and tried to take the whole country by force. What exactly should the world have done in that scenario?

Well, his typical complaint against "neocon foreign policy" is leveled at US adventurism ostensibly in support of spreading democracy, nation-building, and the "rules based world order."  This seems a valid criticism as the adventurism often leads to great loss of life among civilian/native populations and long-term resentment of the US.

Not sure how any of that applies to Ukraine.  The defense against Russia seems to be one of the most righteous wars fought since WWII anywhere on earth.

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18 minutes ago, Cousin Strawberry said:

But how does that apply to the Russia invading Ukraine?

How does the history of the region apply? I don't know man. How far back do you want to go? Fall of the soviet union? 20th century? We can certainly go back a millenia. But we're gonna have to make this snappy, I got some chickens and potatoes roasting. And still need to pull together a salad situation. 

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9 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Hopefully this war and the needless loss of life will come to an end quickly. 

Sure. Allowing European troops to be stationed in Ukraine to keep the Russian bear at bay might do it. But would Russia agree?

37 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

History did not start in February 2022. 

No. This goes back to the 18th century. Or more immediately to 2014.

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Just now, Anastasis said:

How does the history of the region apply? I don't know man. How far back do you want to go? Fall of the soviet union? 20th century. We can certainly go back a millenia. But we're gonna have to make this snappy, I got some chickens and potatoes roasting. And still need to pull together a salad situation. 

I am excited to hear how the bloody history of the Tsarist and Soviet regime make everything Russia has done look awesome.

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1 minute ago, Valmy77 said:

I am excited to hear how the bloody history of the Tsarist and Soviet regime make everything Russia has done look awesome.

I don't think that it will make anything look awesome, but I do think that it will help us Americans understand why the actions of the NATO powers after the fall of the Soviet Union and expansion into Ukraine in particular are viewed by the Russians as an existential threat. It's hard to draw great analogies here that will resonate, since our country and cultural identify is still in the crib relative to these peoples.  

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

How does the history of the region apply? I don't know man. How far back do you want to go? Fall of the soviet union? 20th century? We can certainly go back a millenia. But we're gonna have to make this snappy, I got some chickens and potatoes roasting. And still need to pull together a salad situation. 

 

53 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

I don't think that it will make anything look awesome, but I do think that it will help us Americans understand why the actions of the NATO powers after the fall of the Soviet Union and expansion into Ukraine in particular are viewed by the Russians as an existential threat. It's hard to draw great analogies here that will resonate, since our country and cultural identify is still in the crib relative to these peoples.  

Go ahead and give us the cliff notes of how Putin was justified in invading a sovereign territory. I’m willing to listen. 

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11 minutes ago, Dbeasy said:

 

Go ahead and give us the cliff notes of how Putin was justified in invading a sovereign territory. I’m willing to listen. 

he won't anser. he won't admit Russia has invaded Ukraine more than just this time.

Nah, History starts when he decides.

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Mid year when we have a full alliance with Russia going who will get the first target? I’m thinking Iran would be something Putin would like with their oil and gas reserves. But I’m not counting out South Korea - we already have tons of troops there and Russia needs more warm water port access.

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11 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

he won't anser. he won't admit Russia has invaded Ukraine more than just this time.

Nah, History starts when he decides.

Tell him to fuck off, then put him on ignore. Don't give him the oxygen to spew his bullshit.

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18 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

he won't anser. he won't admit Russia has invaded Ukraine more than just this time.

Nah, History starts when he decides.

I really don’t get it. He spews a bunch of garbage but then can’t answer simple direct questions. What a rube. 

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1 hour ago, Anastasis said:

I don't think that it will make anything look awesome, but I do think that it will help us Americans understand why the actions of the NATO powers after the fall of the Soviet Union and expansion into Ukraine in particular are viewed by the Russians as an existential threat. It's hard to draw great analogies here that will resonate, since our country and cultural identify is still in the crib relative to these peoples.  

Ok great.  But civilized countries use diplomacy to solve those problems.

And, I think you're using history to whitewash Putin's imperialistic motives.

Further, at some point, history goes out the window and you just have to deal with facts on the ground.

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