Ukraine War

[SydneyCarton 49323]

1 minute ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Capitalism strikes again 

Sigh. 

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13617]

20 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Oh is this an invitation to post a lot of tweets I have seen all day about the Swiss being unwilling to shut off the banking for Putin and his buds?

Coming right up!

In the immortal words of Mojo Nixon.

I hate banks.

WHERE THA HELL'S MY MONEY???

[Sbbruin 22082]

2 hours ago, C-Man said:

You mean an advisory group that looks like this was a bad idea?

Not sure why the first thing I thought of when I saw this pic was...

[Aqua Buddha 14782]

 

[C-Man 27684]

6 minutes ago, TurkeyChew said:

No snark, just saying that there are some analysts who think that a secondary or tertiary reason for invading is practicality with grain/ag. Here is something I just read when I googled it because I can't find the original source I read but will try to dig that one up too: https://steadystate.org/putin-the-practical-wants-ukraine-grain/

 

I mentioned if further up the thread that a former ST colleague of mine basically that is one of the reasons Putin wants Ukraine. I'm not informed enough to say whether that's right or not. I will say that after seeing Tommy Tuberville advance that theory not long ago in this thread, I have slightly less confidence that train of thought.

[GreenspointTexas 9932]

8 minutes ago, TurkeyChew said:

No snark, just saying that there are some analysts who think that a secondary or tertiary reason for invading is practicality with grain/ag. Here is something I just read when I googled it because I can't find the original source I read but will try to dig that one up too: https://steadystate.org/putin-the-practical-wants-ukraine-grain/

 

First of all, the Russian wheat harvest is not gonna be that bad…..

[Gourmand 7778]

Can read a teleprompter? 

Can give a speech without skipping a beat?

Has a sharp intellect and the ability to think on feet?

Checks all @Hook1997's boxes... No idea why s/he won't admit to voting for her?

Edited February 24, 2022 by Gourmand

[tchookem 3965]

He has also imprisoned political dissidents and poisoned his adversaries. He’s a megalomaniac punch drunk with power. 

Still not going to be enough to convince those Americans that a liberal might be right about something... something completely unrelated to Putin.

[TexArcher 38816]

1 minute ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

"...there will never be justification for this invasion or any other form of invasion."

-- General Mike Flynn of the United States Army Department of Holy Fucking Irony, Batman.

 

[elguapo 4620]

1 hour ago, Hook1997 said:

The blanket negging of a opinion you don’t agree with is crazy to me also lol. Thanks @Bullneck    Love you, don’t let all that hate eat you up.  I’ll see my evidently hated difference of opinion on a message board out.  

Negged for crying about negs

[Guest]

9 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

@slorch @Johnny Sack @Incredulity
 

This is YOUR GQP. You assholes have not only elected them you have emboldened them to be so dumb the only thing their brains are doing is keeping their lungs functioning. 
 

Please defend him you pussies.

LOLz.  Thank you for making me laugh in an rightfully humorless thread.

Fact 1: I haven't supported Tuberville since he came into my life in 2010.  I would certainly never have voted for him in any capacity, had he ran in my own state. he's a piece of shit human being through and through.

Fact 2: i have not one, but two sons currently serving in the military.  I care about the military in general, but just how much do you think I might care about the right decisions being made?

Pick another fight.  Motherfucker.

Edited February 24, 2022 by slorch

[wildcat09 29555]

4 minutes ago, C-Man said:

I mentioned if further up the thread that a former ST colleague of mine basically that is one of the reasons Putin wants Ukraine. I'm not informed enough to say whether that's right or not. I will say that after seeing Tommy Tuberville advance that theory not long ago in this thread, I have slightly less confidence that train of thought.

Ukraine's abundant agricultural production is a nice resource to control if you're thinking about the world like a fucking 19th century monarch or someone playing Civ 6, but it's hardly a need for Russia today.

[Hugo Stiglitz 23367]

Glenn and Tracey, yesterday.  Lol

[Sbbruin 22082]

5 minutes ago, GreenspointTexas said:

First of all, the Russian wheat harvest is not gonna be that bad…..

"Look at that S car go!"

[RDCanecutter 26851]

33 minutes ago, 'stache said:

How much vodka can I get for $10 USD?

All of it.

[TurkeyChew 383]

12 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Capitalism strikes again 

I said this in another thread, but you had to expect that Putin had the greed of other nation states in his calculus before invading. He had to bet that the "West" views Ukraine as inferior and second-class and money/business would outweigh any morality or sentiment to what is essentially Russians in Russia Jr. in how legacy Europe views Ukraine.

They view Ukraine like they do Turkey. They aren't in the family and never will be.

[RDCanecutter 26851]

9 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

"...there will never be justification for this invasion or any other form of invasion."

-- General Mike Flynn of the United States Army Department of Holy Fucking Irony, Batman.

 

Prisoner quarters in Leavenworth have to be pretty spiffy for a general, don't they?

[Nivek 17330]

13 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

Can we recall him to service and then jail him for being a fucking traitor?

[Smax 3800]

2 hours ago, Hook1997 said:

Once again never supported Trump, hated him from the start.  Why are you so angry someone does like either and isn’t a blind party follower no matter what?

 

I'm reading your post in this thread and I have no idea what point you're trying to make or how it relates to the topic. In other words shut the fuck up, no one here has the time or patience to listen your idiocracy 

[henrygandorf 29218]

6 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Glenn and Tracey, yesterday.  Lol

let’s file this next to “but what is ‘climate’ anyway?”

[cactusflinthead 27626]

 

[Shaddie 1684]

5 minutes ago, slorch said:

LOLz.  Thank you for making me laugh in an rightfully humorless thread.

Fact 1: I haven't supported Tuberville since he came into my life in 2010.  I would certainly never have voted for him in any capacity, had he ran in my own state. he's a piece of shit human being through and through.

Fact 2: i have not one, but two sons currently serving in the military.  I care about the military in general, but just how much do you think I might care about the right decisions being made?

Pick another fight.  Motherfucker.

No. I won’t pick another fight. The GQP is broken. This is from me who grew up in your area and considered myself Republican till DT came onboard and am sick as shit of you fuckers defending his every move. Admit Trump and Putin are bad for America. 
Trump supporting a tyrant. Who the fuck could have seen that coming. 

[wildcat09 29555]

9 minutes ago, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Glenn and Tracey, yesterday.  Lol

Even by their own low standards, the greyzone types have really fucking beclowned themselves about this.

[fuggled 576]

And more examples of how fucked as a nation. Here is one of the posts by someone on my Facebook feed
I do not believe Putin would have made this move with Trump in office.
I really want to respond with, then you're a fucking idiot, but don't want to engage. 

Actually I think there's some truth to this perspective. But it's not because Putin would be scared of Trump. It would be because Trump would be helping to further weaken NATO, the UN and other institutions along with the USA's reputation as a trustworthy ally. Putin would happily wait while those targets get softened. When your enemy is shooting himself in the foot, don't interrupt.

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1 minute ago, Shaddie said:

No. I won’t pick another fight. The GQP is broken. This is from me who grew up in your area and considered myself Republican till DT came onboard and am sick as shit of you fuckers defending his every move. Admit Trump and Putin are bad for America. 
Trump supporting a tyrant. Who the fuck could have seen that coming. 

Not a Trumper.

WTF are you talking about?  Get a fucking clue.

[Starfleet Command 441]

21 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

Flynn is nuts but he’s correct here. Putin may have invaded anyway, but we didn’t even try to negotiate with him. 

[David Dennison 19439]

Just now, Starfleet Command said:

Flynn is nuts but he’s correct here. Putin may have invaded anyway, but we didn’t even try to negotiate with him. 

Yes, we did. We didn't agree on terms. But we negotiated.

[TwiceHorn 31983]

7 minutes ago, Shaddie said:

No. I won’t pick another fight. The GQP is broken. This is from me who grew up in your area and considered myself Republican till DT came onboard and am sick as shit of you fuckers defending his every move. Admit Trump and Putin are bad for America. 
Trump supporting a tyrant. Who the fuck could have seen that coming. 

A big part of it is, this isn't just some dumbass like Sheila Jackson Lee saying something stupid that doesn't really align with the Democratic party in any particular way.  In other words, an "independent" act of stupidity.

This is a stupid fucker's attempt to curry favor with the power that is in the GOP.  It is not at all an independent act of a stupid man.

Edited February 24, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[Longhorn_Fan68 34078]

nsiap

 

Edited February 24, 2022 by Longhorn_Fan68

[Shaddie 1684]

2 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

Flynn is nuts but he’s correct here. Putin may have invaded anyway, but we didn’t even try to negotiate with him. 

What? 
 

JFC what was there to negotiate? Anybody with a functional brain can take Putin at HIS word he wants to re-establish Soviet Union. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13050]

1 minute ago, fuggled said:

6 hours ago, Mo Horn said:

And more examples of how fucked as a nation. Here is one of the posts by someone on my Facebook feed
I do not believe Putin would have made this move with Trump in office.
I really want to respond with, then you're a fucking idiot, but don't want to engage. 

Actually I think there's some truth to this perspective. But it's not because Putin would be scared of Trump. It would be because Trump would be helping to further weaken NATO, the UN and other institutions along with the USA's reputation as a trustworthy ally. Putin would happily wait while those targets get softened. When your enemy is shooting himself in the foot, don't interrupt.

Since the account was banned prior to leaving office, the tweets are only accessed through an archive, but this one is from 2017, two years prior to The Call. At that point,  Poroshenko was still leader of Ukraine.

[cactusflinthead 27626]

3 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

nsiap

 

Sky News had the same. I think they got it from Reuters.

[cactusflinthead 27626]

As an aside, now would be a good time to rethink the FBI redlining weed smokers and LSD or other psychedelic use from serving as white hat hackers.

Edited February 24, 2022 by cactusflinthead

[Longhorn_Fan68 34078]

1 minute ago, cactusflinthead said:

Sky News had the same. I think they got it from Reuters.

I think ole Puti-poo underestimated Ukraine. We shall see.

[Macanudo 13252]

9 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

Flynn is nuts but he’s correct here. Putin may have invaded anyway, but we didn’t even try to negotiate with him. 

How do you negotiate with someone who won't negotiate in good faith and truthfully?  

[wildcat09 29555]

1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

How do you negotiate with someone who won't negotiate in good faith and truthfully?  

There's also that whole thing where it's not our fucking place to bargain with Ukrainian sovereignty. 

[Longhorn_Fan68 34078]

1 minute ago, Macanudo said:

How do you negotiate with someone who won't negotiate in good faith and truthfully?  

I dunno, but you'd think with years of experience with trying the same with the GOP we'd be somewhat good at it.

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

33 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

 

Gibberish/grievance soup from a confused old man. 

[BehoId, The Underminer! 11669]

13 minutes ago, Starfleet Command said:

Flynn is nuts but he’s correct here. Putin may have invaded anyway, but we didn’t even try to negotiate with him. 

Lol. Putin went in to stop the genocide of Russians in those two eastern districts and to end the Nazification of Ukraine.  A lot to negotiate with there.  

[Sawbonz 28081]

10 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

Yes, we did. We didn't agree on terms. But we negotiated.

What would be a concession that would both stop him from invading and be acceptable to us?

[David Dennison 19439]

2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

What would be a concession that would both stop him from invading and be acceptable to us?

I have no idea.

[cactusflinthead 27626]

3 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

Lol. Putin went in to stop the genocide of Russians in those two eastern districts and to end the Nazification of Ukraine.  A lot to negotiate with there.  

On that note

 

[Sbbruin 22082]

11 minutes ago, cactusflinthead said:

Sky News had the same. I think they got it from Reuters.

I don't think we can underestimate the power of motivation here.  The Ukranians are fighting for their very existence, the future of their children, and their homes.  Not sure the average Ruskie soldier really knows what he's fighting for.

[Aqua Buddha 14782]

Just now, Sbbruin said:

I don't think we can underestimate the power of motivation here.  The Ukranians are fighting for their very existence, the future of their children, and their homes.  Not sure the average Ruskie soldier really knows what he's fighting for.

This.  Even if they know, they don’t give a shit.

[cactusflinthead 27626]

 

[Jive Turkey 12930]

it's almost like Putin timed this invasion to coincide with the opening of CPAC to help Trump's reelection bid.

 

[mchookem 16727]

1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

 

Ladies and Gentlemen, Pete Doocy.  

The correct response was "You dumb son of a bitch."

he says it with his face at the :50 second mark 😄

[David Dennison 19439]

Americans on Team Russia.

Mind bottling.

[brakeman 28646]

nsiap

 

[Shaddie 1684]

agreed.

I don't like the guy, nor have I defended his actions/ decisions in this thread.

Yet and still, it doesn't mean hey they other folks in Washington are pure as fuck now.

 

and Imamac plays the "stupid" card.   fuck off dude.

 

Ok. You DON’T like Trump. Good to know. 
Care to tell us who you voted for last 2 elections? I figure if “for us or against us” is good for republicans then good for all of us.