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13 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Would House Republicans block that weapons sale?

 

 

Not all Russian assets are frozen/held by the US, the EU can do as it wishes and the snippet in the article about using the finds to purchase arms from European manufacturers only will not sit well with the US war machine

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Two stupid fat pieces of human garbage.  I also note that now Trump likes Tik Tok.  I think it’s hilarious that his MAGA crew thinks he’s going to be serious about anything except himself, he’d literally send China the deed to Manhattan if he could and they offered to pay his rape lawsuit bills.  
 

Such a weird fucking timeline where a good chunk of Americans want their candidate to cozy up to a grubby little Hungarian kleptocrat. 

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12 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Pope's giving dictators a pass isn't anything new. 

I think John Paul II was an outlier when it came to Popes vocally criticizing dictators.

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1 hour ago, BeardIP said:

 

Popes and Dictators DO have a lot of commonalities, when it comes to hierarchy and structure, when you put it that way.

Congregationalism would be an alternative but then you have to deal with the tyranny of the majority.

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22 hours ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Pope's giving dictators a pass isn't anything new. 

Pope’s didn’t give dictators a pass. Righteous coronations were sold to murdering pieces of shit so the cult could maintain power. 

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6 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Pope’s didn’t give dictators a pass. Righteous coronations were sold to murdering pieces of shit so the cult could maintain power. 

This.  Buying indulgences.  Power=Money>>>>>>Salvation.

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https://www.meidastouch.com/news/russia-celebrates-as-orban-says-trump-will-force-ukraine-to-surrender-to-putin

It's crazy how much trump is still impairing our body politik and preventing aid from going to Ukraine. It's a real and tangible major strategic limitation on Ukraine, but since it's """political""" we can't talk about it in the main thread. 

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13 minutes ago, Captainant said:

https://www.meidastouch.com/news/russia-celebrates-as-orban-says-trump-will-force-ukraine-to-surrender-to-putin

It's crazy how much trump is still impairing our body politik and preventing aid from going to Ukraine. It's a real and tangible major strategic limitation on Ukraine, but since it's """political""" we can't talk about it in the main thread. 

Truly remarkable that in 50 years, the only real explanation for the United States' inaction in this conflict will be "uh, the guy who used to be President likes how mean Putin is."

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VoteVets has a new ad addressed to House Republicans and using the words of Ronald Reagan. It’s pretty strong. It’s not up on YouTube yet. They showed it on Morning Joe today and Alexander Vindman was interviewed. (Remember he was the guy who blew the whistle on Trump’s extortion of Zelensky which led to Trump’s first impeachment.)

There are a lot of other VoteVets ads that are up on YouTube if you want to go look.

 

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This is great but it will have no effect.  Donald and therefore the GOP:

- Do not like the U.S. military because it is “woke” and swears loyalty to the Constitution.

- Do not like democracy at home or abroad. 

- Do not like our Allies but do like our enemies. 

DJT wants the United States to be more like Putin’s Russia. It’s a fundamental thing. Ukraine isn’t a political issue they can be cajoled into: they really do want Russia to win and to hold up Russia as an example. 
 

This is where we are as a country. 
 

 

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1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Truly remarkable that in 50 years, the only real explanation for the United States' inaction in this conflict will be "uh, the guy who used to be President likes how mean Putin is."

Two reasons:

1. Russian nuclear blackmail worked on Jake Sullivan.

2. Trump wants Russia to win. 

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This is great but it will have no effect.  Donald and therefore the GOP:
- Do not like the U.S. military because it is “woke” and swears loyalty to the Constitution.
- Do not like democracy at home or abroad. 
- Do not like our Allies but do like our enemies. 
DJT wants the United States to be more like Putin’s Russia. It’s a fundamental thing. Ukraine isn’t a political issue they can be cajoled into: they really do want Russia to win and to hold up Russia as an example. 
 
This is where we are as a country. 
 
 

It’s not any more complicated than this. Given a choice between a functioning representative democracy or an autocratic fascist oligarchy, the GQP - a cult that has no identity other than what Trump says its identity is - chose the second option, with deadly enthusiasm.
They are the greatest threat this country has ever faced, because threats from within are always the most dangerous.
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So, this is super fun.  The House recently passed a resolution:

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By a 399-9 vote, the House approved a resolution “condemning the illegal abduction of children from Ukraine to the Russian Federation,” which nine Republicans opposed.

Nine Republicans.  Fucking.  Opposed.  People like Chip Roy and MTG.  These people are inhuman pieces of shit.  Fuck them and fuck anyone who votes for them.  I hope that their children are taken from them in exactly the same fashion - since they don't seem to think it's a problem.

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While it’s important to place the blame at the feet of Republicans, it is equally important to note that House Progressives and the Squad are joining forces with Mike Johnson to prevent a vote on a bill that their party supports and negotiated. 
 

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8 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

While it’s important to place the blame at the feet of Republicans, it is equally important to note that House Progressives and the Squad are joining forces with Mike Johnson to prevent a vote on a bill that their party supports and negotiated. 
 

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Katie Porter?  Damn.  I guess now I should be happy she lost in the Senate primary.

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18 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

While it’s important to place the blame at the feet of Republicans, it is equally important to note that House Progressives and the Squad are joining forces with Mike Johnson to prevent a vote on a bill that their party supports and negotiated. 
 

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Fuck those people 

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Most of them would vote for it under normal circumstances. It's on-brand and understandable that House progressives don't want to ram a bill through in this manner that gives funding to Israel. 

(Mea culpa if the discharge petition isn't the Ukraine/Israel/Palestine/Taiwan conglomerate foreign aid package that was part of the dead border bill.)

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It's worth reading the comments of Slovaks and Hungarians on this thread in reaction to this pro-Russian candidate getting elected. They sound very similar to us talking about Republicans and the idiots who vote for them.

Here's one example:

It's kind of impressive if you think about it. An in the closed gay being openly against gay rights won the election by claiming the other candidate would send our soldiers to Ukraine (despite him being against it).

He literally claimed he is not a product of marketing, while he exceeded the limit that he can legally spend on a presidential campaign, because third parties campaigned for him (yes it is against the law, but there's minimal punishment for it)

I feel sick...im a slovak, but seriously fuck this country

 

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3 hours ago, bolverk said:

It's worth reading the comments of Slovaks and Hungarians on this thread in reaction to this pro-Russian candidate getting elected. They sound very similar to us talking about Republicans and the idiots who vote for them.

Here's one example:

It's kind of impressive if you think about it. An in the closed gay being openly against gay rights won the election by claiming the other candidate would send our soldiers to Ukraine (despite him being against it).

He literally claimed he is not a product of marketing, while he exceeded the limit that he can legally spend on a presidential campaign, because third parties campaigned for him (yes it is against the law, but there's minimal punishment for it)

I feel sick...im a slovak, but seriously fuck this country

 

I could just about write my analysis of this in Slovak but I’ll resist the urge. Suffice to say that Pellegrini won this election with an appeal to lies, fear, hate and with extensive foreign interference. He got through to the second round by posing as a centrist and then mobilized to grab the neo-Nazi and pro-Russia vote even as his opponent (Korcok, former foreign minister and ambassador to the U.S.) got more votes than the current incumbent president. Slovakia’s president is much weaker than the U.S. president. This basically removes any institutional hurdles (not brakes) to the criminal group currently in government. 
 

There’s lots of comparisons to the way the GOP behaves and who they mobilize, and how they exploit foreign interference. Example: Slovakia has a “campaign moratorium” where all public campaigning stops 48 hours prior to polls opening until poll closure. The winner of this election went to Hungary and gave a fawning interview to state TV which Orban then ran almost non-stop through the moratorium. Slovakia is home to about 500,000 ethnic Hungarians who all are in the Hungarian media space. Non-stop diet of Orban telling them who to vote for and calling the democratic bloc tools of Soros. Every accusation is a confession. 
 

Slovakia is rapidly turning into No Country For Young Men (Women, Gays,  Educated, Tolerant, Kind….). I personally know about a dozen of the smartest Slovaks who bailed to Czech Republic and many more weighing the move. There’s almost no linguistic friction and you can even study for free in Czech schools so for about a decade the top 30 percent of Slovak students have gone to Czech schools. That will speed up and the current crowd of Kremlin tools can rule over an empty European Appalachia full of terrified pensioners, literal Nazis, and oppressed Roma. Here’s what one of my smartest friends, who is leaving, texted me:

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It sucks that someone with whom the majority of normal educated people don’t agree represents your country and decides about your future

The thing is— that’s fine with them. Just like that vision is appealing to our GOP.

Oh, and today Zelenskyy announced that Ukraine will lost without Congressional action. He’s right (which is why I’m too angry to go near the DT thread now). And Anastasis and GRU and the GOP that wants us to be more like Russia and Slovakia can suck each other off.

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Oh, and today Zelenskyy announced that Ukraine will lost without Congressional action. He’s right (which is why I’m too angry to go near the DT thread now). And Anastasis and GRU and the GOP that wants us to be more like Russia and Slovakia can suck each other off.

Oh hey on that note, WaPo has some new reporting out:

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