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Posted
18 minutes ago, troph said:

Never have they had to deal with the US as an adversary. Necessity is the key ingredient here, I’m betting they can. 

I fucking hope so.

Posted
1 hour ago, troph said:

oh Biden certainly played the part of a proxy war and did so brilliantly in a lot of ways. No nukes fired, Russian stayed engaged and now they are crippled. It's because of Biden that that group right there actually stands a chance to tell the US and Russia to fuck off. and I hope they do.

Brilliantly?

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1 minute ago, F250 said:

Brilliantly?

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I'd say the way he responded to the threat in the six months leading up to the invasion and the six months after were indeed brilliant. Then, shit got bogged down through the Admin's hesitation on ramping up the lethal hardware more quickly. Everything became too hesitant and cautious afterward.

And now that I think of it, I wonder if it was around that point when Biden really began to fade, and others started inserting themselves and influencing decisions.

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9 minutes ago, bolverk said:

I'd say the way he responded to the threat in the six months leading up to the invasion and the six months after were indeed brilliant. Then, shit got bogged down through the Admin's hesitation on ramping up the lethal hardware more quickly. Everything became too hesitant and cautious afterward.

And now that I think of it, I wonder if it was around that point when Biden really began to fade, and others started inserting themselves and influencing decisions.

He could have crushed Russia but decided to play prevent defense until the Trump administration took over.

Turtle Tom shit.

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In a dramatic shift in transatlantic relations under President Donald Trump, the United States split with its European allies by refusing to blame Russia for its invasion of Ukraine in votes on three U.N. resolutions Monday seeking an end to the three-year war.

The growing divide follows Trump’s decision to open direct negotiations with Russia on ending the war, dismaying Ukraine and its European supporters by excluding them from the preliminary talks last week.

In the U.N. General Assembly, the U.S. joined Russia in voting against a Europe-backed Ukrainian resolution that calls out Moscow’s aggression and demands an immediate withdrawal of Russian troops.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/un-vote-demand-russia-pull-050752472.html

Posted
5 hours ago, F250 said:

He could have crushed Russia but decided to play prevent defense until the Trump administration took over.

Turtle Tom shit.


The second best military in the world has depleted the massive Soviet stockpile it inherited to the point that its troops are riding scooters into battle and using donkeys to transport artillery shells. Its navy was defeated by a country that doesn’t have a navy. They will never have air dominance. Every day, they lose more refining capacity and their economy gets closer to collapse.

What exactly do you think Biden should have done with such limited congressional support?

Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, F250 said:

He could have crushed Russia but decided to play prevent defense until the Trump administration took over.

Turtle Tom shit.

 

2 hours ago, B00M said:


The second best military in the world has depleted the massive Soviet stockpile it inherited to the point that its troops are riding scooters into battle and using donkeys to transport artillery shells. Its navy was defeated by a country that doesn’t have a navy. They will never have air dominance. Every day, they lose more refining capacity and their economy gets closer to collapse.

What exactly do you think Biden should have done with such limited congressional support?

1.) China is second best and was second best

2.) it’s easy to say he was being too cautious bc we know the outcome now. An aggressive move could have escalated the situation into some really dark scenarios for the world

3.) Russia has lost something of 3/4 or something of all tracked vehicles. Maybe more

4.) Russia’s nukes may just be more of a threat as I’m not convinced they actually work

5.) All their scary hypersonic missiles failed to reach their targets or detonate.

 

So in a sense, you’re both right and wrong as is every scenario. 
Biden being cautious is probably the right strategy, however, given the shit we know now an aggressive posture / push would have likely led to Russia not securing near as much territory and potentially Ukraine getting back Crimea and the Wagner dude completing his cue as he likely would have secured the support he thought he had when he started his march to Moscow.

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