Liverpool 2018-19 ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ!!!

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

27 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Klavan on his way out supposedly. 2M to Cagliari. 

Dumb.

[Bone3421 716]

Man city took a hit with de bruyne out for 3 months....need to capitalize if this is going to be the year to end the drought

Edited August 17, 2018 by Bone3421

[maninblack 7974]

Looks like Nathaniel Phillips will be "break glass in case of emergency" option

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

Or Fabinho

[Jograves 357]

3 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Dumb.

Why? How many CBs are you wanting us to carry?

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

59 minutes ago, Jograves said:

Why? How many CBs are you wanting us to carry?

1 more than we have.

[Bone3421 716]

Napoli owner? Is saying liverpool and roma colluded and are owned by same group

[406W30th 1111]

1 hour ago, Jograves said:

Why? How many CBs are you wanting us to carry?

The problem isn't number, it's reliability. Lovren is a knucklehead who not only is injured quite a bit but then lies about his injuries. Matip can't stay fit for more than a couple of matches. Gomez is young, pretty inexperienced, and also has a pretty gnarly injury history. Nat Phillips has looked great. In pre-season.

None of those guys can be relied on. Klavan wasn't great but he was serviceable and almost always fit. I think we can probably get away with a combination of the rest of those guys but it's not terribly reassuring.

 

 

[maninblack 7974]

1 hour ago, Jograves said:

Why? How many CBs are you wanting us to carry?

Well Matip, Lovren and Gomez spend most of their time injured. The key is to find a long term partner for VvD. Then let the 3 injured amigos fight it out for the bench.

[Jograves 357]

50 minutes ago, 406W30th said:

The problem isn't number, it's reliability. Lovren is a knucklehead who not only is injured quite a bit but then lies about his injuries. Matip can't stay fit for more than a couple of matches. Gomez is young, pretty inexperienced, and also has a pretty gnarly injury history. Nat Phillips has looked great. In pre-season.

None of those guys can be relied on. Klavan wasn't great but he was serviceable and almost always fit. I think we can probably get away with a combination of the rest of those guys but it's not terribly reassuring.

 

 

I guess I have a little more faith in those guys than some of you do, which is totally fine. I'm sure you'll admit there are other factors involved, like the wage bill, Klavan's happiness, etc. I think I read they also want to show the young guys there's a path to the big club through the academy. 

FTR, I thought Gomez looked great aside from the one time Arnautovic got behind him. Overall, I'm pleased as punch with the roster and have zero gripes with how it's constructed. The ownership group has definitely come a long way. 

[mdmost 42775]

My only worry is depth because of the fragility of the people opposite and behind VvD.

[maninblack 7974]

1 hour ago, Jograves said:

I guess I have a little more faith in those guys than some of you do, which is totally fine. I'm sure you'll admit there are other factors involved, like the wage bill, Klavan's happiness, etc. I think I read they also want to show the young guys there's a path to the big club through the academy. 

FTR, I thought Gomez looked great aside from the one time Arnautovic got behind him. Overall, I'm pleased as punch with the roster and have zero gripes with how it's constructed. The ownership group has definitely come a long way. 

The problem isn't letting Klavan go. It's not replacing Lovren.

[Jograves 357]

I know he's a burr in your saddle but he just doesn't bother me as much. He's been good to great in 2018 in all comps. I realize a lot of that has to do with VVD but Dejan held his own in some huge games. 

I've been in Montana since last week and haven't followed the team news other than watching the match on Sunday, so I don't know what this latest cock-up of his entails. 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

Well, until Dejan starts practicing/playing, he's fairly useless.

[maninblack 7974]

 

1 hour ago, Jograves said:

I know he's a burr in your saddle but he just doesn't bother me as much. He's been good to great in 2018 in all comps. I realize a lot of that has to do with VVD but Dejan held his own in some huge games. 

I've been in Montana since last week and haven't followed the team news other than watching the match on Sunday, so I don't know what this latest cock-up of his entails. 

Nice humble brag

[Jograves 357]

Went to the Pearl Jam concert in Missoula last Monday. 

Had a great time. Needed a vacation badly. 

[hobbes2702 12771]

7 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Dumb.

Why? He’s not better than Gomez. He’s fifth choice at CB. If we need our 5th choice then let’s play a kid and learn rather than watch a 32 year old screw us the same way.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

19 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Why? He’s not better than Gomez. He’s fifth choice at CB. If we need our 5th choice then let’s play a kid and learn rather than watch a 32 year old screw us the same way.

He was on the bench for the Champions League final. A lot of shit can happen during a season. No one knows what is going on with Lovren. Gomez looks good, but he will need rest. And Matip isn't healthy.

 

Who's our third option right now?  A guy who hasn't played a single minute of EPL football? Seems risky given our schedule.

[hobbes2702 12771]

25 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

He was on the bench for the Champions League final. A lot of shit can happen during a season. No one knows what is going on with Lovren. Gomez looks good, but he will need rest. And Matip isn't healthy.

 

Who's our third option right now?  A guy who hasn't played a single minute of EPL football? Seems risky given our schedule.

My issue isn’t that we shouldn’t have depth. I’m just of the opinion that Klavan is no better than Phillips and if we are forced to our 5th choice then 1) we are fucked anyway and 2) I would rather see Phillips learn.

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

2 hours ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Who's our third option right now?  A guy who hasn't played a single minute of EPL football? Seems risky given our schedule.

Matip. 

 

Lovren will be back in a week or two. Phillips is probably on par with Klavan. 

Klopp did Klavan a solid and let him go play a couple more years before he hangs them up. He could have kept him as the “break in case of emergency” centerback but Klavan wanted to go play and Klopp was cool with it. 

[maninblack 7974]

Vardy is going to miss our match for that one

[maninblack 7974]

 

[Bone3421 716]

So we need another 4-0/1 win to stay on top

[Bodowned 671]

You guys thinking we’re gonna see the same starting lineup or we might see Hendo/Shaqiri/Fabinho slide in somewhere?

[hobbes2702 12771]

I’d bet we see 1 if Henderson/Fabinho is the 11. Other two on the bench 

[Jograves 357]

1 hour ago, hobbes2702 said:

I’d bet we see 1 if Henderson/Fabinho is the 11. Other two on the bench 

Who is your 3rd MFer?

I think Keita, Hendo and Fabinho start in MF. Same front 3 and defense as the previous week. It's really hard to drop Milner and Gini with the way they played last week, but I think Klopp has to find a way to get minutes into Hendo and Fabinho before we get into the meat of the season. 

[mdmost 42775]

Agreed. Gini and Milner to the bench.

[Bodowned 671]

I think Gini is 100% going to the bench, but it will be hard for me to imagine Klopp benching Milner after his performance last week. In that case, it's either benching your captain in Henderson or your expensive summer signing in Fabinho. I don't really care either way - it's nice to finally have these problems with depth!

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

23 minutes ago, Bodowned said:

 In that case, it's either benching your captain in Henderson or your expensive summer signing in Fabinho.

Naby to Klopp, by Christmas:

[maninblack 7974]

The thing to watch/hope for, besides a smooth buttfucking of Palace, is Gomez to put in another solid performance next to Big Virg. He'll get a better test today.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

27 minutes ago, maninblack said:

The thing to watch/hope for, besides a smooth buttfucking of Palace, is Gomez to put in another solid performance next to Big Virg. He'll get a better test today.

Yeah. Benteke and Zaha will create a challenge. I hate playing Palace @ Palace. 

[Jograves 357]

Joyce tweeted Karius is set to join Besiktas on a TWO year loan. 

[mdmost 42775]

That's good. Guy needs a fresh start. Best of luck to him. 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

Great move. Solid club that will give him a chance to play great football and get his head where it needs to be.

Good luck to him.

[Firemans4Horn 17792]

Amazing, in depth breakdown of the lead up to all of our goals. Includes gifs as well:

 

https://www.empireofthekop.com/2018/08/20/how-liverpool-now-breakdown-teams-in-depth-tactical-discussion-with-gifs-time-stamps-more-as-klopp-looks-to-beat-the-bus-parkers/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

[pied 252]

2 hours ago, maninblack said:

The thing to watch/hope for, besides a smooth buttfucking of Palace, is Gomez to put in another solid performance next to Big Virg. He'll get a better test today.

You know it. Gomez today, Gomez tomorrow, Gomez forever!

[pied 252]

BTW I’m sure no one really cars that much, but surly has been blocked at the office. Still around but harder to post on long conf calls. 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

24 minutes ago, pied said:

BTW I’m sure no one really cars that much, but surly has been blocked at the office. Still around but harder to post on long conf calls. 

Quit your job.

[maninblack 7974]

That happens on my work computer from time to time. I think it's the Gambpool forum on our filter.

[maninblack 7974]

20 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Quit your job.

Also, this.

[maninblack 7974]

2 hours ago, Jograves said:

Joyce tweeted Karius is set to join Besiktas on a TWO year loan. 

I view this as the best case scenario coming into the summer. Seems to have worked out as a necessity. Karius could have real value in a couple years. Waffles has limited value but is also a very good 2nd choice for the EPL. 

[pied 252]

27 minutes ago, maninblack said:

That happens on my work computer from time to time. I think it's the Gambpool forum on our filter.

Think that’s the problem. Oh well. 

[mdmost 42775]

4 hours ago, Bodowned said:

I think Gini is 100% going to the bench, but it will be hard for me to imagine Klopp benching Milner after his performance last week. In that case, it's either benching your captain in Henderson or your expensive summer signing in Fabinho. I don't really care either way - it's nice to finally have these problems with depth!

You are correct. Milner stays. Fabinho isn't even on the bench.

 

[Bodowned 671]

Did Fabinho get hurt during the week and I missed it? Very strange to me. 

[maninblack 7974]

27 minutes ago, Bodowned said:

Did Fabinho get hurt during the week and I missed it? Very strange to me. 

First thing I noticed. 

[Jograves 357]

Just heard him interviewed and Klopp says nothing is wrong with Fabinho. He's eased guys in before. Robbo and Ox come to mind from last season. Maybe that's all it is. 

[mdmost 42775]

Love these grey kits. 

Cheerleaders?

Edited August 20, 2018 by mdmost

[406W30th 1111]

4 hours ago, Jograves said:

Joyce tweeted Karius is set to join Besiktas on a TWO year loan. 

Part of the loan deal includes a clause in which Karius must play against us if we meet in Champions League.

*rim shot*

 

 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

22 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Love these grey kits. 

 

They look like pajamas to me.

[mdmost 42775]

Well, it's time to Palace to bed.