Liverpool 2018-19 ALLEZ ALLEZ ALLEZ!!!

[maninblack 7974]

11 minutes ago, TKS said:

L'Équipe is saying Lemar is back on the menu.

Saw that. If we got him as our 4th rotational piece for the attack I'd dance a jig. 

My only hope is that it's an attacker like him AND a attacking mid like Fekir and not one or the other. 

[TKS 66]

Guardian says Roma want 79 million pounds for Alisson. They also said Fekir will cost 60 million but could be done soon.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

DO IT.GIF

[mdmost 42843]

Are we sure on Alisson? I know you can't just take the 2 CL games against him as the whole picture but I didn't see anything that's 79 million pounds worthy to me. 

[DeadSalamander 107]

4 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Are we sure on Alisson? I know you can't just take the 2 CL games against him as the whole picture but I didn't see anything that's 79 million pounds worthy to me. 

The worst leg could have easily been 8 or 9 if not for him.  I don't really know how to judge if he's worth X Million pounds, but he's Brazil's#1 (ahead of Ederson).  Good enough for me.

[Bone3421 716]

I am still fine with rolling karius. Lets see how he responds but wont be to upset if gone. He is just 25. I say lets see how the early season goes and if we need we can upgrade in winter window

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[Firemans4Horn 17827]

We’ve had 7 consecutive years of rolling with a not good enough goalie (last two years of reina we’re not good). 

 

A good goalie literally was the difference in the champions league final 3 days ago. 

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

7 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

We’ve had 7 consecutive years of rolling with a not good enough goalie (last two years of reina we’re not good). 

 

A good goalie literally was the difference in the champions league final 3 days ago. 

 

Agreed. #notmymoneygif

 

Plus with Karius as backup maybe he builds his confidence up to be a world class keeper if that happens then great we have two world class keepers. But I say do it now and not wait to see if it happens. Plus competition will be great for whomever they bring in.  

[maninblack 7974]

If we brought in a guy like Alisson/Donnu/Oblak than I'd sell both Mignolet (probably wants out) and Karius. Just don't think Liverpool is the place for him to rebuild after that. Find him a landing spot in BuLi that has less pressure where he can get games and get back on track. Letting play 2nd fiddle on the bench probably fucks with his head worse.

Ward would be my break in case of emergency keeper.

[Bone3421 716]

Like i said im not going to be upset if he is gone. I just would like to see how he responds before team dumps him for nothing.Could galvanize him into a top keeper



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[Hagbard Celine 10751]

Geez.  People.  Jack Butland.  Relegated.  2m Man Mountain.  Best fucking keeper in Britain right now.  Didn't get selected by The Lizard because Relegated.  Stoke need the money.  This is not hard.

[Pathetic Shark 60]

Nick Pope.  Burnley have Heaton, Liverpool get a great goalie on the cheap and can spend big money elsewhere.  Alisson won’t be sold, they don’t need the money

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

18 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Geez.  People.  Jack Butland.  Relegated.  2m Man Mountain.  Best fucking keeper in Britain right now.  Didn't get selected by The Lizard because Relegated.  Stoke need the money.  This is not hard.

No thanks.

 

 

[maninblack 7974]

44 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Geez.  People.  Jack Butland.  Relegated.  2m Man Mountain.  Best fucking keeper in Britain right now.  Didn't get selected by The Lizard because Relegated.  Stoke need the money.  This is not hard.

I'm a no

[mdmost 42843]

Someone needs to get the you want Alisson but in reality you’re getting Butland meme started

Edited May 30, 2018 by mdmost

[Jograves 357]

13 hours ago, maninblack said:

If we brought in a guy like Alisson/Donnu/Oblak than I'd sell both Mignolet (probably wants out) and Karius. Just don't think Liverpool is the place for him to rebuild after that. Find him a landing spot in BuLi that has less pressure where he can get games and get back on track. Letting play 2nd fiddle on the bench probably fucks with his head worse.

Ward would be my break in case of emergency keeper.

The word I've heard is we'll likely need 3 keepers. Migs is gone. Like you said, relegating Karius to the bench is probably worse than letting him start the season, and Ward is going to want first team football somewhere. 

They have a lot of work to do this summer on the keeper front. I saw the Barca backup was mentioned on Twitter this morning. 

[DeadSalamander 107]

14 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Geez.  People.  Jack Butland.  Relegated.  2m Man Mountain.  Best fucking keeper in Britain right now.  Didn't get selected by The Lizard because Relegated.  Stoke need the money.  This is not hard.

I'm a hard "pass" on Butland.  Rather stick with Karius or Ward.

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

16 minutes ago, DeadSalamander said:

I'm a hard "pass" on Butland.  Rather stick with Karius or Ward.

I am as well. 

At this point it's-

 

 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

14 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

Geez.  People.  Jack Butland.  Relegated.  2m Man Mountain.  Best fucking keeper in Britain right now.  Didn't get selected by The Lizard because Relegated.  Stoke need the money.  This is not hard.

I'm not impressed with Butland. He's not world class and only a moderate improvement over Karius. I'd rather spend the cash on someone who is a guaranteed success.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

14 hours ago, maninblack said:

If we brought in a guy like Alisson/Donnu/Oblak than I'd sell both Mignolet (probably wants out) and Karius. Just don't think Liverpool is the place for him to rebuild after that. Find him a landing spot in BuLi that has less pressure where he can get games and get back on track. Letting play 2nd fiddle on the bench probably fucks with his head worse.

Ward would be my break in case of emergency keeper.

This is truth. Karius needs to either start and prove he's man enough to take the heat or go elsewhere and let people forget.

Frankly, I don't want to pin our CL hopes on a "project". Splash the cash and get Alisson. 

[Jograves 357]

Backup keepers are like backup QBs. I don't think we should be rooting for Danny Ward to start. 

[Bodowned 671]

Salah, Fabinho, Keita, and VVD are all ambitious signings which feel like we're attempting to elevate to the next step in annual EPL/CL competitiveness. Butland would be a step back in that regard and seems closer to us settling on a "bargain" player like we have in the past. Allison/Oblak would both show ambition in our quest to stay amongst the top and Fekir likewise. We can go after bargain bin types when it comes to adding depth, but I don't think we should entertain the thought of them when it comes to starting XI places.

[406W30th 1111]

Alisson or bust. £79M is crazy money for a keeper but it ain't my money. The club made £70M off getting to the CL final. Blow it all on a guy who will singlehandedly improve our defense leaps and bounds and would be our #1 for the next decade.

 

 

[maninblack 7974]

Before Fabinho the net spend during Klopp's time has been 34M in the black. We haven't spent diddly squat since Klopp arrived. Time to break the piggy bank. 

[Bone3421 716]

Zidane is out at real...????


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[Cheeseweasel 26437]

10 hours ago, 406W30th said:

Alisson or bust. £79M is crazy money for a keeper but it ain't my money. The club made £70M off getting to the CL final. Blow it all on a guy who will singlehandedly improve our defense leaps and bounds and would be our #1 for the next decade.

 

 

This. Prices aren't going down. Buy now or buy a similar keeper for 100M next year. 

If we get Alisson & Fekir, I like our odds of making a decent run at the title.

[Bone3421 716]

Maybe thats why zidane left....knows the reds are coming for years


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[Jograves 357]

10 hours ago, 406W30th said:

Alisson or bust. £79M is crazy money for a keeper but it ain't my money. The club made £70M off getting to the CL final. Blow it all on a guy who will singlehandedly improve our defense leaps and bounds and would be our #1 for the next decade.

 

 

Saw rumors this morning linking us with Courtois. He's a great keeper but I've never been impressed with his distribution. I think we want a more all around keeper than that. 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

1 minute ago, Jograves said:

Saw rumors this morning linking us with Courtois. He's a great keeper but I've never been impressed with his distribution. I think we want a more all around keeper than that. 

Huge improvement over what we have. And we'd get him on free, right?

[Jograves 357]

I think he has a year left on his deal. 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

Just now, Jograves said:

I think he has a year left on his deal. 

Ah. Then nevermind. GET ALISSON.

[Firemans4Horn 17827]

I’d be down with Keylor Navas

[DeadSalamander 107]

 

Is this guy legit?

[Jograves 357]

I'll wait until Paul Joyce says it's done. 

[Bodowned 671]

Paul Joyce and James Pearce are about the only two guys that I follow for any useful info. This Mootaz guy apparently also said Lemar was a done deal, so I'd take him with a grain of salt. I have seen rumblings on Twitter about Fekir not being included in the squad for the Italy match, though?

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

4 minutes ago, Bodowned said:

Paul Joyce and James Pearce are about the only two guys that I follow for any useful info. This Mootaz guy apparently also said Lemar was a done deal, so I'd take him with a grain of salt. I have seen rumblings on Twitter about Fekir not being included in the squad for the Italy match, though?

Melissa Reddy too.

[maninblack 7974]

3 hours ago, DeadSalamander said:

 

Is this guy legit?

I don't care I'm going to believe it

[maninblack 7974]

I will say that while Joyce, Reddy and Pearce have contacts at the club they were all caught flat footed on Fabinho. To me that means that leaks to local journos might be nipped in the bud for the moment.

 

[Jograves 357]

To be fair, they were all in Kiev and it sounds like Edwards was working the deal at that time.

None of the In-The-Knows mentioned Fabinho either, FWIW. 

[maninblack 7974]

No leaks

[pied 252]

Pretty sure Pearce is on vacation in Singapore(per his twitter) and Reddy was in Kiev, travelling back I'd guess.  Think they're trying to keep a clamp on things, but at least 2/3 of these sources were likely out of pocket to some extent when it went down.

[Bone3421 716]

If we land the other targets will klopp change the attack....or same system with better players
I really dont want to mess with formula of salah mane and firmino that carried LFC

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[JimmyHoffa 1188]

1 hour ago, Bone3421 said:

If we land the other targets will klopp change the attack....or same system with better players
I really dont want to mess with formula of salah mane and firmino that carried LFC

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It will be the same (or slight modification) with better depth and upgraded starting 11 at a couple of positions. 

[Firemans4Horn 17827]

I think Klopp will be comfortable changing it up.

When Alberto Moreno and Danny Ings are your two best sub options you’re probably going to stick with the same formation every game. 

[shigginz 5]

I'm a functional retard when it comes to player evaluation. I just like watching Liverpool wail on people. Can somebody explain the Alisson hype to me? Did we not score a fuck ton of goals on Roma when we played them?

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

On 6/2/2018 at 1:49 PM, shigginz said:

I'm a functional retard when it comes to player evaluation. I just like watching Liverpool wail on people. Can somebody explain the Alisson hype to me? Did we not score a fuck ton of goals on Roma when we played them?

We scored a fuck ton of goal on ERRRRRYONE this year.

He's the real deal. Watch Brazil in the WC and you'll see. 

[406W30th 1111]

On 6/2/2018 at 1:49 PM, shigginz said:

I'm a functional retard when it comes to player evaluation. I just like watching Liverpool wail on people. Can somebody explain the Alisson hype to me? Did we not score a fuck ton of goals on Roma when we played them?

Alisson kept it from an absolute bloodbath. Before we scored our first he'd already made three or four saves that he had no business making. When we were first linked with him I watched a few Roma games. Dude is nails. I actually prefer him to Oblak but I think that's tainted by the few matches I watched of Atleti where he failed to impress. 

Roma is in rather dire financial straits and just like last year, they pretty much have to offload assets. While we'll likely have to pay the full asking price to ease the backlash they get from their fans for selling another player to us, I think a deal gets done after what looks like a protracted negotiation.

Seems much likelier to land Alisson than Oblak, who ends up at Chelsea after they sell Courtois, possibly going the other direction.

 

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

Regardless, we need an upgrade. If we come out of this transfer season without a top keeper, it will be just like coming out of last year without a top defender. 

We know it. Klopp knows it. FSG knows it. 

Get 'er done, lads.

[JimmyHoffa 1188]

 

58 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Regardless, we need an upgrade. If we come out of this transfer season without a top keeper, it will be just like coming out of last year without a top defender. 

We know it. Klopp knows it. FSG knows it. 

Get 'er done, lads.

 

This. 

[TKS 66]

Bild in Germany is saying Karius suffered a concussion in the collision with Ramos two minutes before the Benzema goal. The diagnosis comes from a doctor in Boston at the behest of the LFC medical team.

Edited June 4, 2018 by TKS