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39 minutes ago, sidis said:

i did not mind the foundational look back at the Mark-Gemma story portion of the episode but man, I do not enjoy watching people get endlessly terrorized.

you have succeeded in making me hate lumon, stiller. let's have some plot now.

Same. When I eventually re-watch the series, I'll probably skip that episode. 

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Sorry if obvious but it does look like each room (and file) are a different unpleasant memory. As much as I hate to think it, I bet that Cold Harbor is related to her miscarriage. Can Lumon have a person go through that type of traumatic event but walk out the door like nothing happened? And sadly Mark is somehow programming the code to make that occur. Perhaps by blocking the scary numbers which relate to emotions.

FWIW, I'm in the camp that Gemma never was in a car accident. Not that I can explain how she kidnapped but were Devon and Rickon perhaps involved? Of course if you go down that route, who's to say that Gemma wasn't a willing participant with Lumon before she even met Mark.

What's tough for the audience now is that many were probably rooting for happiness between Helly and Mark. Even though Helena is evil in her own way. Not as easy to cheer on Helly and Mark and want Mark to reunite with Gemma. 

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2 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Sorry if obvious but it does look like each room (and file) are a different unpleasant memory. As much as I hate to think it, I bet that Cold Harbor is related to her miscarriage. Can Lumon have a person go through that type of traumatic event but walk out the door like nothing happened? And sadly Mark is somehow programming the code to make that occur. Perhaps by blocking the scary numbers which relate to emotions.

FWIW, I'm in the camp that Gemma never was in a car accident. Not that I can explain how she kidnapped but were Devon and Rickon perhaps involved? Of course if you go down that route, who's to say that Gemma wasn't a willing participant with Lumon before she even met Mark.

What's tough for the audience now is that many were probably rooting for happiness between Helly and Mark. Even though Helena is evil in her own way. Not as easy to cheer on Helly and Mark and want Mark to reunite with Gemma. 

I'm rooting for a Mark Gemma Helly combo.  

I mean, if Gemma can be a different woman every night, then we're getting into Stepford Wives territory.   I'll pick the daily outfit Gemma, thank you very much.

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4 minutes ago, Chad Fuck said:

I'm rooting for a Mark Gemma Helly combo.  

I mean, if Gemma can be a different woman every night, then we're getting into Stepford Wives territory.   I'll pick the daily outfit Gemma, thank you very much.

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I watched a video about severance where the author noted that Lumon employees (at work) and innies are often wearing blue. Obviously the white business shirts are an exception. Devon almost exclusively wears blue.

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So kind of wild catch (from this reddit post) between last week's episode and a visit to the Eternity Wing.... They're dressing Gemma as different Eagan women in the different rooms

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I have a guess as to who might be represented in "Cold Harbor"

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I bet Gemma is gonna be wearing Helena's clothes for Cold Harbor.

 

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So kind of wild catch (from this reddit post) between last week's episode and a visit to the Eternity Wing.... They're dressing Gemma as different Eagan women in the different rooms
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I have a guess as to who might be represented in "Cold Harbor"
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I bet Gemma is gonna be wearing Helena's clothes for Cold Harbor.

 


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FWIW, I'm in the camp that Gemma never was in a car accident.


That seems like the most likely explanation.

For starters, if Lumon was grooming Gemma and Mark for their sadistic plan, why would they risk Gemma being seriously injured and ruining the plan? Much easier to fake her death entirely without ever putting her in jeopardy.

Secondly, her body was burned and Mark had her remains. The very nature of the body being burned raises serious doubt that it was ever her to begin with. I think even Mark realized this new possibility when he mentioned the remains.
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lWhat's tough for the audience now is that many were probably rooting for happiness between Helly and Mark. Even though Helena is evil in her own way. Not as easy to cheer on Helly and Mark and want Mark to reunite with Gemma. 


I like Helly but it’s very easy for me to root for the Mark and Gemma reunion as the eventual outcome. That was true prior to this episode, but now we’ve been given so much depth to the Mark and Gemma relationship and seen their true happiness prior to their infertility heartbreak (that was likely entirely orchestrated by Lumon).

Innie Mark and Helly don’t have that and possibly never will. For this show to have a happy ending (not saying it will, just saying as a viewer I would prefer that), we need Outie Mark to prevail, or the unsevered version of him. That version of Mark is loyal to Gemma and would view Helly as a work fling in a time of confusion and distress. He would probably wish for the best for her but abandon any romantic feelings.

I’m hoping there’s a way for Innie Helly to be permanently awakened and Outie Helena to cease to exist. Then she can find her own happiness on the outside.
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10 hours ago, wild_turkey said:

 


I like Helly but it’s very easy for me to root for the Mark and Gemma reunion as the eventual outcome. That was true prior to this episode, but now we’ve been given so much depth to the Mark and Gemma relationship and seen their true happiness prior to their infertility heartbreak (that was likely entirely orchestrated by Lumon).

Innie Mark and Helly don’t have that and possibly never will. For this show to have a happy ending (not saying it will, just saying as a viewer I would prefer that), we need Outie Mark to prevail, or the unsevered version of him. That version of Mark is loyal to Gemma and would view Helly as a work fling in a time of confusion and distress. He would probably wish for the best for her but abandon any romantic feelings.

I’m hoping there’s a way for Innie Helly to be permanently awakened and Outie Helena to cease to exist. Then she can find her own happiness on the outside.

 

Agree with this. I could also see Helly sacrificing herself at some point for the others. She was always fine with ending her existence if it got her out of severance. Perhaps the team finds a method to re-engage the overtime contingency for Helly and she goes through integration and then sacrifices herself and Helena, ending the Egan line. But there is also the idea that she may be pregnant now and of course we don't know if there are other Egans. We don't even know who the large, bearded guy is. I believe.

And if this all seems unlikely, remember that Milchick is questioning himself. He could easily switch from heel to hero. Or not.

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Way late to this (waffle) party like a lot of shows.  The wife and I finished Season 1 last night, and holy shit this is a great show.  I know it borrows from other stories with plot devices like parallel alternate realities, but it's so unique.  As some folks mentioned, the set design makes it difficult to pin down the time period of the show.  Lumen is using some advanced technology, but the computers, cars, furniture, and other set items make it look like something from 1970s Canada.  And there's a touch of dysphoria throughout.

And the acting of the innies and other Lumen employees is fantastic. All four characters of the MDR Department are all so compelling.  And Trammell Tillman steals the show.  He plays Mr. Milichick brilliantly, with always a touch of sinister below the surface.  

On to Season 2.

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2 hours ago, South Austin said:

Way late to this (waffle) party like a lot of shows.  The wife and I finished Season 1 last night, and holy shit this is a great show.  I know it borrows from other stories with plot devices like parallel alternate realities, but it's so unique.  As some folks mentioned, the set design makes it difficult to pin down the time period of the show.  Lumen is using some advanced technology, but the computers, cars, furniture, and other set items make it look like something from 1970s Canada.  And there's a touch of dysphoria throughout.

And the acting of the innies and other Lumen employees is fantastic. All four characters of the MDR Department are all so compelling.  And Trammell Tillman steals the show.  He plays Mr. Milichick brilliantly, with always a touch of sinister below the surface.  

On to Season 2.

I hope you have a good 5 hours of nothing to do.  

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2 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

This guy's got some unique theories. 

 

 

 

 

lmfao Drummond is now "Evil Hodor" to me. I am really interested to see what they do with the Burt story thread, and to see how deep the rabbit hole goes

Really nice detail to find too, with the linkage to Operation Paperclip and how a file with a backward paperclip indicated a candidate to be recruited

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52 minutes ago, Captainant said:

lmfao Drummond is now "Evil Hodor" to me. I am really interested to see what they do with the Burt story thread, and to see how deep the rabbit hole goes

Really nice detail to find too, with the linkage to Operation Paperclip and how a file with a backward paperclip indicated a candidate to be recruited

It's impressive the links he, or his team of researchers, is able to find.  I like what he said about Burt not being severed, giving as evidence his interaction with Milchick at his retirement party and also how he uses the name "Oscar" with Milchick as a potential first-name middle-or-higher manager.  It would make sense why O&D was able to send someone to the exports hall elevator until they weren't. Another interesting detail was the extra room behind the Wellness room on Petey's map even though there's nothing tying it in to the storyline at the moment. 

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On 3/3/2025 at 10:38 PM, wild_turkey said:

 


I like Helly but it’s very easy for me to root for the Mark and Gemma reunion as the eventual outcome. That was true prior to this episode, but now we’ve been given so much depth to the Mark and Gemma relationship and seen their true happiness prior to their infertility heartbreak (that was likely entirely orchestrated by Lumon).

Innie Mark and Helly don’t have that and possibly never will. For this show to have a happy ending (not saying it will, just saying as a viewer I would prefer that), we need Outie Mark to prevail, or the unsevered version of him. That version of Mark is loyal to Gemma and would view Helly as a work fling in a time of confusion and distress. He would probably wish for the best for her but abandon any romantic feelings.

I’m hoping there’s a way for Innie Helly to be permanently awakened and Outie Helena to cease to exist. Then she can find her own happiness on the outside.

 

Gemma gonna hold a grudge and blame him for cheating 

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2 hours ago, gofuckyourself said:

So glad she's back. I love Arquette's unsettling performances and seething malice.

And obviously, with what Cobel knows, she's about to tear some shit up.

She really is a great actress, and you hit the nail on the head. That character is so volatile and unpredictable -- you never know when she's going to blow up. The tension in that house got me feeling like she was gonna blow up any second and murder her aunt.

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So it really seems like Devon and Cobel were pretty familiar on the phone... Especially considering the last time they saw each other.

I think Cobel is shifting to "burn it all down" mode. She was ok not getting credit for the severance procedure, but only if she got to run it. The last thing an Eagan said to her was that she "overestimated her contributions", when they in fact stole from her. She doesn't love Lumon, but she does have a weird faith in Kier

Gonna be an interesting ride to finish the season

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Arquette is great but her Cobel voice is annoying as all get out.   

 

Speaking of annoying, why does Apple make it a chore to watch the after-the-episode insider review? 

You get about 10 seconds into the credits and then some show you've never watched pops up, pushing severance into the top right corner.  Then the race is on to grab the remote and position the selection to the top right.  Late or hit the wrong button? Here comes the new trash show.   Then you have to reload Severance, scroll all the way to the end, and try again.   Maddening.   I was on a 3-week streak of winning the battle but was felled last week, 2 times in a row.   

I will now intentionally never watch whatever the hell Surface is.

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8 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Arquette is great but her Cobel voice is annoying as all get out.   

 

Speaking of annoying, why does Apple make it a chore to watch the after-the-episode insider review? 

You get about 10 seconds into the credits and then some show you've never watched pops up, pushing severance into the top right corner.  Then the race is on to grab the remote and position the selection to the top right.  Late or hit the wrong button? Here comes the new trash show.   Then you have to reload Severance, scroll all the way to the end, and try again.   Maddening.   I was on a 3-week streak of winning the battle but was felled last week, 2 times in a row.   

I will now intentionally never watch whatever the hell Surface is.

Hah, same thing happened to us.  Twice also.  

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10 hours ago, Captainant said:

So it really seems like Devon and Cobel were pretty familiar on the phone... Especially considering the last time they saw each other.

I think Cobel is shifting to "burn it all down" mode. She was ok not getting credit for the severance procedure, but only if she got to run it. The last thing an Eagan said to her was that she "overestimated her contributions", when they in fact stole from her. She doesn't love Lumon, but she does have a weird faith in Kier

Gonna be an interesting ride to finish the season

Wasn’t Kobel the night nurse or something for Devin’s baby?  They knew each other last year before the finale.  

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44 minutes ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Wasn’t Kobel the night nurse or something for Devin’s baby?  They knew each other last year before the finale.  

I think there’s an extra layer there, as in Devon and Ricken may also have been severed and there’s a Devon/Ricken-Lumon connection from years past?  It’s like when Devon found out Gemma was pregnant when only Mark knew at the time, when she went to the clinic and they engineered her miscarriage, there had to be some insider conveyance of that info.  The glance Mauer gave in Gemma’s direction when she and Mark entered the clinic was knowing (and super creepy).

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10 minutes ago, SizzleChest said:

I think there’s an extra layer there, as in Devon and Ricken may also have been severed and there’s a Devon/Ricken-Lumon connection from years past?  It’s like when Devon found out Gemma was pregnant when only Mark knew at the time, when she went to the clinic and they engineered her miscarriage, there had to be some insider conveyance of that info.  The glance Mauer gave in Gemma’s direction when she and Mark entered the clinic was knowing (and super creepy).

Sure.  But with respect to what we actually know for certain - Harmony Kobel as Mrs. Selvig (and it was “Mrs” interestingly) was known to Devon last year in some capacity with the baby.  
 

I thought Devon presumed because Gemma wasn’t drinking and Gemma gave it away?  In any event, I did a piss poor job of watching last week’s episode closely and need to give it a rewatch. 

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Just now, A-Tex Devil said:

I thought Devon presumed because Gemma wasn’t drinking and Gemma gave it away?  In any event, I did a piss poor job of watching last week’s episode closely and need to give it a rewatch. 

It was a tough watch, so easy to miss.  I rewatched it before the latest ep because it was all a blur.

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1 hour ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Wasn’t Kobel the night nurse or something for Devin’s baby?  They knew each other last year before the finale.  

She was, but the last time they interacted the whole house thought that Ms Selvig had stolen their baby. They knew eachother, but I certainly would not be friendly with someone who nearly kidnapped my daughter

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21 minutes ago, Captainant said:

She was, but the last time they interacted the whole house thought that Ms Selvig had stolen their baby. They knew eachother, but I certainly would not be friendly with someone who nearly kidnapped my daughter

Yeah but she didn't and they knew she just left the baby in a room. While that in itself would be bothersome, "no harm done" and Devon's concern over her brother's condition supercedes any issue with Cobelvig.

She's the only one Devon thinks can help with insider info.

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1 hour ago, A-Tex Devil said:

I thought Devon presumed because Gemma wasn’t drinking and Gemma gave it away?  In any event, I did a piss poor job of watching last week’s episode closely and need to give it a rewatch. 

Yeah, they used the "women turns down alcohol at dinner" trope to expose her pregnancy.

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3 hours ago, A-Tex Devil said:

Wasn’t Kobel the night nurse or something for Devin’s baby?  They knew each other last year before the finale.  

She was her lactation consultant. Devon had that amazing line about how Cobel committed lactation fraud.

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Man, the Lumon Management Program videos have been great extra flavor

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and there's great "Lumon is Listening" videos selling severance 

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moved videos into spoiler tags so they don't explode the webpage

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2 hours ago, Lat22 said:

All of these shows seem to have an episode where the whole cast gets the day off. I don’t like them. 

It’s so they can pay them fewer.

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