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On 3/9/2025 at 10:33 AM, Helobious said:

It’s so they can pay them fewer.

But let’s move the whole production to Newfoundland for who knows how long to film one episode?

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Still fully on board here. With a strong ending, I'd even say season 2 > season 1.

Same here. My only minor complaint is that we had 2 episodes in a row that didn’t include Dylan, Irv, Helly, etc. Other than that, I’m really enjoying season 2.
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This can only end with either mark, helly, or Gemma sacrificing themself at the end right? Even if they all reintegrate there's no path forward where they each end up happy.

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4 hours ago, Lat22 said:

But let’s move the whole production to Newfoundland for who knows how long to film one episode?

The second outing of the dystopian workplace drama cost $200,000,000 (£159.9million) to make or $20m (£15m) per episode, according to Bloomberg.

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I loved season 1. Season 2 has been more of a chore for me to watch. I have an uneasy feeling the writers are just making shit up as they go, Damon lindenfuckoff or whatever his name was. 

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9 hours ago, gsoda3 said:

This can only end with either mark, helly, or Gemma sacrificing themself at the end right? Even if they all reintegrate there's no path forward where they each end up happy.

FADE UP

INT MILCHICK'S OFFICE

Dylan, Helly, Mark and Gemma are sitting in a row across from Milchick. They are clearly nervous.

Milchick's cold gaze does not leave them as he slowly opens his desk top drawer.

He pulls something out, then slams it with a bang. The workers jump.

"I trust you will find this appropriate in remedying the myriad discomforts you've experienced here at Lumon."

Mark eyes Milkshake warily. Helly glances at the others as Milkshake continues.

"It's your severance package, of course."

He pauses, hand still outstretched, then turns and gives a sly wink at the camera.

The five of them burst out laughing together.

FADE OUT

 

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4 hours ago, nolongerU2horn said:

I mean that's kind of how writing fiction works. You make things up

well obviously, but I meant with respect to landing the plane.  

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Just now, bschoolprof said:

well obviously, but I meant with respect to landing the plane.  

The main write claims to know what the last scene is.  But we've heard that before. 

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1 hour ago, gsoda3 said:

The main write claims to know what the last scene is.  But we've heard that before. 

Until he changes his mind, because they decided to take the story in a different direction last episode!

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15 hours ago, Sbbruin said:

I literally have no idea what the fuck that episode was all about.

Cobel was a child laborer, as young as 8, working at a Lumon ether plant. She was ID'd as a gifted child and whisked away to a Lumon school, while the ether plant had a spill/leak/"accident" and effectively poisoned the town.

The whole episode (IMO) was meant to show what Lumon leaves in it's wake. It's implied that Cobels mom died from the ether poisoning, and Lumon both caused that death and prevented Cobel from saying goodbye. Cissy is a remaining artifact of Lumon - a True Believer - and is hated by the town for it.

I think this episode was meant to show a change of heart or a moment of opposite radicalization for Harmony.

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Especially when you consider getting written out of history fame and wealth as the creator of the severance procedure, and it's stolen by the same entity that literally took her childhood and mother from her

 

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I thought it was a short detour, but still keeps the rest of the story intact? 

Funny that others brought up Lindelof, because this episode immediately reminded me of The Leftovers. A character-focused episode that detours off the overall story line but weaves its way back into it by the end is exactly how Season 2 and 3 were functioning. And The Leftovers is one of my favorite all-timers, so this episode was completely fine to me. We learned more about her, more about Lumon and their roots and previous actions, some crumbs were left for the possibility of more story/arc-building, but ultimately it sets up Cobel to bring some heat to the corporation and possibly help Mark with pushing his story line forward. 

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i understand why the last two episodes frustrate certain viewers and i did not care for a lot of the gemma episode...particularly the mental and emotional torture.

but this episode was far more important and relevant...and while frustrating that we did not get any plot advancement per se (and it was a bit slow moving and totally cinematography focused), that episode was critical for laying the predicate for not only cobel's heel turn on lumon, but also for her unique capacity and ability for what's next - which is to aid in mark's mid-reintegration shitshow after asal said fuck it, i'm out.

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On 3/1/2025 at 2:05 PM, Chad Fuck said:

Me neither.  I"m trying to figure out where this "7 innies" theory came from.  

 

I just caught up on 2 episodes this week. I think it is pretty clearly at least “7 innies” based on the conversations she was “just at the dentist” it is “always Christmas”. Imply each of those innies only existed in 1 room. 

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1 hour ago, Captainant said:

Cobel was a child laborer, as young as 8, working at a Lumon ether plant. She was ID'd as a gifted child and whisked away to a Lumon school, while the ether plant had a spill/leak/"accident" and effectively poisoned the town.

The whole episode (IMO) was meant to show what Lumon leaves in it's wake. It's implied that Cobels mom died from the ether poisoning, and Lumon both caused that death and prevented Cobel from saying goodbye. Cissy is a remaining artifact of Lumon - a True Believer - and is hated by the town for it.

I think this episode was meant to show a change of heart or a moment of opposite radicalization for Harmony.

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Especially when you consider getting written out of history fame and wealth as the creator of the severance procedure, and it's stolen by the same entity that literally took her childhood and mother from her

 

Right on, it was a great episode and world building. We saw a different city, learned some of the horror lumon leaves in their wake and reached a turning point with Cobel.  

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Just now, hornbri said:

I just caught up on 2 episodes this week. I think it is pretty clearly at least “7 innies” based on the conversations she was “just at the dentist” it is “always Christmas”. Imply each of those innies only existed in 1 room. 

They confirmed it in the production podcast hosted by Stiller and Scott that it's different innies in each room. They mentioned that part of the excitement and challenge with the episode was doing truly 7 different characters, and working with the set and costume design team to build each microcosm

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26 minutes ago, hornbri said:

Right on, it was a great episode and world building. We saw a different city, learned some of the horror lumon leaves in their wake and reached a turning point with Cobel.  

Not sure it was a "great" episode. But I feel like it was an essential episode for story building, and I think it was done well. It just wasn't "entertaining" because none of the characters we love were in it (nor were they in the previous episode). 

My wife and I took a bunch of edibles and tried to watch it on Friday night. We got about 20 mins in and realized we had no fucking clue what was going on, so we turned it off and watched a Mission Impossible movie. We rewatched on Sunday when we weren't higher than giraffe pussy.

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I stuck through season 1 and the finale was so good, I kept going on season 2.  I just find the whole thing to be a slog.  Great concept, but they keep adding and adding layers to the mystery without getting to the point.  The only emotionally resonant thing I have seen is innie Dylan and his wife this season.  They could have done the last episode in about 10 minutes.  

There are definitely some great things (Ms Huang, the overly fancy HR review), but mostly, I just feel like this guy:

 

monty-python-get-on-with-it.mp4

 

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44 minutes ago, Stringer said:

I stuck through season 1 and the finale was so good, I kept going on season 2.  I just find the whole thing to be a slog.  Great concept, but they keep adding and adding layers to the mystery without getting to the point.  The only emotionally resonant thing I have seen is innie Dylan and his wife this season.  They could have done the last episode in about 10 minutes.  

There are definitely some great things (Ms Huang, the overly fancy HR review), but mostly, I just feel like this guy:

 

monty-python-get-on-with-it.mp4

 

Every episode goes by in about five minutes for me. 

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2 hours ago, Stringer said:

I stuck through season 1 and the finale was so good, I kept going on season 2.  I just find the whole thing to be a slog.  Great concept, but they keep adding and adding layers to the mystery without getting to the point.  The only emotionally resonant thing I have seen is innie Dylan and his wife this season.  They could have done the last episode in about 10 minutes.  

There are definitely some great things (Ms Huang, the overly fancy HR review), but mostly, I just feel like this guy:

 

monty-python-get-on-with-it.mp4

 

The thing is going 5 seasons. Why would they need to start shrinking the narrative and wrapping things in a bow now?

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On 3/6/2025 at 11:08 PM, bolverk said:

She really is a great actress, and you hit the nail on the head. That character is so volatile and unpredictable -- you never know when she's going to blow up. The tension in that house got me feeling like she was gonna blow up any second and murder her aunt.

On an unrelated note, I had a huge crush on her sister, Rosanna, back in the day (apparently not as big as Steve Porcaro).

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On 3/10/2025 at 1:38 PM, Helobious said:

Season 1 was a masterpiece, and so was season 2 up until the forest episode. That was a clear peak and this show is going off the rails quick.

Checks username--Helobious?  Yep.

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6 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

On an unrelated note, I had a huge crush on her sister, Rosanna, back in the day (apparently not as big as Steve Porcaro).

Same. 11-year-old me was especially fond of her role in Exectutioner's Song, which was particularly enlightening at that critical stage in my film studies.  

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I'm glad they're finally pulling things back together. I had to double check that there are 10 episodes this season, because the last words Mark said tonight were "she's alive", which were the last words he spoke in the S1 finale.

They gave us a big clue as to where they are physically located - they said Ms. Huang was being sent to a school in Svalbard, and she was traveling by shuttle. If she's not getting off the shuttle and onto a plane, then Kier is somewhere relatively close to the farthest northern city in Norway.

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1 hour ago, austingirl said:

I'm glad they're finally pulling things back together. I had to double check that there are 10 episodes this season, because the last words Mark said tonight were "she's alive", which were the last words he spoke in the S1 finale.

They gave us a big clue as to where they are physically located - they said Ms. Huang was being sent to a school in Svalbard, and she was traveling by shuttle. If she's not getting off the shuttle and onto a plane, then Kier is somewhere relatively close to the farthest northern city in Norway.

The Svalbard thing might be an interesting twist if they somehow work in the whole global seed vault thing.

@austingirl One thing, though, is that Irving hopped on a train to get out of there, which doesn't seem too realistic for a remote island above the Arctic Circle. "Shuttle" could also mean a private plane.

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Favorite line of the season so far: 

"To put that monosyllabically: 'It's not my fault what Mark Scout does when he's not at work. It's yours.'"

I mean, Milchick is still effectively a slave overseer, but it was still allsome to see him stand up to evil Hodor

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10 hours ago, Captainant said:

Favorite line of the season so far: 

"To put that monosyllabically: 'It's not my fault what Mark Scout does when he's not at work. It's yours.'"

I mean, Milchick is still effectively a slave overseer, but it was still allsome to see him stand up to evil Hodor

 

Whoever posted about "evil Hodor" further up the thread, that is all I see when Drummond is talking now.   It is so spot on.   Now if the result of Cold Harbor is that Bran becomes the new CEO of Lumon...

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That set up the finale well. 

I feel like cold harbor is going to be a reintergreated Mark having to choose between Gemma and Helly (possibly pregnant), with the other dying. The whole thing planned and setup by Lumon to get to this point to see what happens. Hell at this point I am not sure they didn’t plant Gemma at that first Blood Drive to make both his outie fall in love and then eventually make his innie fall in love. 

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On 3/14/2025 at 11:07 AM, hornbri said:

That set up the finale well. 

I feel like cold harbor is going to be a reintergreated Mark having to choose between Gemma and Helly (possibly pregnant), with the other dying. The whole thing planned and setup by Lumon to get to this point to see what happens. Hell at this point I am not sure they didn’t plant Gemma at that first Blood Drive to make both his outie fall in love and then eventually make his innie fall in love. 

I got that weird feeling during that episode that it was a set up from the very beginning when Gemma met Mark. She even seemed a little, I guess, aloof then, as well. 

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37 minutes ago, SubliminalHorn said:

I got that weird feeling during that episode that it was a set up from the very beginning when Gemma met Mark. She even seemed a little, I guess, aloof then, as well. 

same.  I think it was a setup.  

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Tough episode for Dylan.

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Felt for him while he was contemplating his demise while waiting for the elevator. Basically committing suicide. He lost Irving, Helly and Mark have paired off, and his outie wife broke up with him. All he has is his pencil erasers.

 

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1 hour ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Tough episode for Dylan.

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Felt for him while he was contemplating his demise while waiting for the elevator. Basically committing suicide. He lost Irving, Helly and Mark have paired off, and his outie wife broke up with him. All he has is his pencil erasers.

 

The ring he made Gretchen out of a finger trap. Omg. My middle-school boyfriend would've gotten so, so lucky with that move.

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12 hours ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Tough episode for Dylan.

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Felt for him while he was contemplating his demise while waiting for the elevator. Basically committing suicide. He lost Irving, Helly and Mark have paired off, and his outie wife broke up with him. All he has is his pencil erasers.

 

But outie Dylan has to agree, which even though he threatened it I don't think he will because he basically can't get work outside of Lumon. Those doors are shut, literally.

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