Senate passes bill to make DST permanent

[Storm the Field 5,294]

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The US Senate has unanimously passed a bill to make daylight saving time permanent across the nation. The Sunshine Protection Act still has yet to face the House, but would mean an end to changing the clocks twice a year -- and an end to depressing early afternoon darkness in winter.

 

No more falling back an hour in November if enacted (starting in 2023).

I used to not give a shit, but over the last few years, I'm all screwed up for a good 3 or 4 days following each time change. And getting home from work in the dark at 6:00 is not a lot of fun.

Edited March 15, 2022 by Storm the Field

[Samson's Wig 3,192]

I like keeping it the same all year, but they're doing it backwards.  DST is fucking bullshit for anyone who has children or works a typical schedule for a living.  It doesn't need to be light outside at 9:30 at night.  And anyone who whines about how they like to mow their yard later in the evening can go fuck themselves for making a racket when everyone else is trying to relax. 

[Bateshorn 9,927]

Fun fact, the change over days used to be earlier in the fall, and later in the spring, by about 4 total weeks.  A bill in 2005 changed that.  It was in theory supposed to save energy,  I think all it did was make the diurnal effects much more severe. 
 

it used to be the last Sunday in October and the first Sunday in April.

[Deej 76,768]

Sunshine Protection Act? What the fuck is that? It's the same amount of sunshine regardless of whether or not you fuck with the clocks. 

[RDCanecutter 26,428]

I've been taking shit from perky morning people most of my life, so anything that inconveniences them is fine by me.

[StruggleBus 3,922]

The first good legislation passed in a decade 

[Incredulity 11,669]

Glad that congress is focused on the critical priorities.

Heartwarming.

[Ag with kids 581]

3 minutes ago, Deej said:

Sunshine Protection Act? What the fuck is that? It's the same amount of sunshine regardless of whether or not you fuck with the clocks. 

[StruggleBus 3,922]

Just now, Incredulity said:

Glad that congress is focused on the critical priorities.

Heartwarming.

Better that they focus on this than breaking everything else 

[bluto 4,928]

Don’t celebrate yet, still some deliberations behind the scenes 

 

 

[Homercles 10,205]

Falling back is painful when nursing a Sunday morning hangover and the kids are up wanting breakfast at 5a.  

[TheStoicPaisano 9,922]

Long game from Jonah.

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by TheStoicPaisano

[JMFP 1,120]

 

[BabaYaga 15,294]

[Ghost of LL 15,531]

15 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

Long game from Jonah.

 

Was it @Bateshorn who said he can't watch this show because it is too close to real life?

Anyway, if they're going to do that, then they need to move Austin to the Mountain Time Zone.  We're so far west in the Central Time Zone that in the winter, the sun won't come up until damned near 9:00.

[Foosters 17,856]

39 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

DST is fucking bullshit for anyone who has children or works a typical schedule for a living. 

Gonna need to see your math . . . 

[JOSEYWALES66 1,801]

I seem to be in the minority but I don't mind the time changes.

 

 

[Surly Bevo 24,908]

So playing around with clocks has proven to be a waste of time?

[immamac 42,847]

we should go to standard time not daylight savings time. I'm fine with it, but they should standardize with the rest of the world on standard time not some bullshit made up timezone. 

[Guest]

I have no idea if we are on standard time or daylight savings time. I know I don't want it still dark at 7 a.m.. Nor do I need to light at 9 p.m. Do the one that cuts that garbage out.

[NotActuallyALonghorn 4,976]

I'll take the extra daylight in the evening. Should give me just enough time to swing by our family land after work while it's still shooting light come November.

[Foosters 17,856]

5 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I have no idea if we are on standard time or daylight savings time. I know I don't want it still dark at 7 a.m.. Nor do I need to light at 9 p.m. Do the one that cuts that garbage out.

You could move to a village on the equator?

[Bateshorn 9,927]

20 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

Was it @Bateshorn who said he can't watch this show because it is too close to real life?

Anyway, if they're going to do that, then they need to move Austin to the Mountain Time Zone.  We're so far west in the Central Time Zone that in the winter, the sun won't come up until damned near 9:00.

Yes. It’s a fucking documentary. 

[Guest Lobo]

Yeah, we forget sometimes that it used to be 50%/50% in terms of times for decades.  Then quietly it went to actually 75%-DST/25%-Standard and has stayed there for quite awhile.  I see lots of pros and cons, but I have long wished we just went with one and stuck with it all year long. 

However, since our own Senators are literally advocating that we stick with DST all year long, isn't that really our own new "standard time"?  For the 6 U.S. timezones, it'll help...but it will create new confusing challenges for folks traveling/communicating with other parts of the world during the first few years.

Anyway, we're all agreed---we'll only have the Designated Hitter for non-interleague games at National League parks during the DST period unless the pitcher or hitter in question is from a country not regulated by DST?  Makes total sense. 

[F250 28,772]

I enjoy the "fall back" change, the "spring forward" change sucks. Can we just get an extra hour every year?

 

[Js1 85,321]

5 minutes ago, F250 said:

I enjoy the "fall back" change, the "spring forward" change sucks. Can we just get an extra hour every year?

 

Jesus Christ, yes.  Sunday night I was laying in bed at 10:30pm like "what the fuck, I am not tired" 

Monday was rough. 

[elfenix 34,238]

1 hour ago, StruggleBus said:

The first good legislation passed in a decade 

[nineliveslost 2,753]

31 minutes ago, JOSEYWALES66 said:

I seem to be in the minority but I don't mind the time changes.

 

 

always one of you guys in the room 

[elfenix 34,238]

houston is barely in its right time zone for 5 months of the year, austin is already in the wrong time zone by default (geographically speaking austin should be GMT -7 because it is west of -97.5°) and now it will be two time zones off if this shit passes.

[You don't know me 1,161]

If this passes, Arizona will probably start springing forward and falling back just to continue with their contrarian bullshit.

[Armybrat 40,839]

35 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

So playing around with clocks has proven to be a waste of time?

Nebraska is stillpissed about that 1 second added.

[Brothahorn 10,087]

 

The US Senate has unanimously passed a bill to make daylight saving time permanent across the nation. The Sunshine Protection Act still has yet to face the House, but would mean an end to changing the clocks twice a year -- and an end to depressing early afternoon darkness in winter.

 

[Armybrat 40,839]

30 minutes ago, FirstTimeCaller said:

I have no idea if we are on standard time or daylight savings time. I know I don't want it still dark at 7 a.m.. Nor do I need to light at 9 p.m. Do the one that cuts that garbage out.

It was tough getting our little kids to go to bed at 8:30. Wife said we might have to get them all sunglasses.

[Guest Lobo]

This will invariably lead to impacts on agriculture, commerce, schooling, transportation, etc.  

DST=CRT 

[dcar00 14,182]

1 hour ago, Deej said:

Sunshine Protection Act? What the fuck is that? It's the same amount of sunshine regardless of whether or not you fuck with the clocks. 

this is so callous. our leaders are protecting sunshine for future generations!  won't you think of the children!

[Guest Lobo]

This is all an elaborate ruse by Big Vitamin D, aka "BIG D"....so not one of the Senators we know. 

[Parliament 14,258]

Bipartisan support for something that just makes sense?  What's the catch?

[Ag with kids 581]

4 minutes ago, Parliament said:

Bipartisan support for something that just makes sense?  What's the catch?

I've even  seen the text of the bill and they didn't hide any BS in it, like $17.3 billion to study the migratory habits of pygmy hunters in the Australian Outback or some dumb crap like that...

[Ag with kids 581]

39 minutes ago, Lobo said:

Yeah, we forget sometimes that it used to be 50%/50% in terms of times for decades.  Then quietly it went to actually 75%-DST/25%-Standard and has stayed there for quite awhile.  I see lots of pros and cons, but I have long wished we just went with one and stuck with it all year long. 

However, since our own Senators are literally advocating that we stick with DST all year long, isn't that really our own new "standard time"?  For the 6 U.S. timezones, it'll help...but it will create new confusing challenges for folks traveling/communicating with other parts of the world during the first few years.

Anyway, we're all agreed---we'll only have the Designated Hitter for non-interleague games at National League parks during the DST period unless the pitcher or hitter in question is from a country not regulated by DST?  Makes total sense. 

Only godless heathens support the DH!!!  Are you a godless heathen?  Well, are you????

[The Ace of Aces 5,182]

Not looking forward to it being dark at 9 am here in December. And it’s bad for snow lovers like me too. But if we stop the bullshit then sign me up.  

[millhouse 2,604]

Good. I'm tired of 7am meetings turning into 6am meetings when you assholes change time

Sincerely, 

Arizona Resident 

[Pato del Muerto 52,492]

So what about areas that don’t do dst?  Forced into a one time adjustment?

maybe a 30 minute change is the happy medium here.  

[Deej 76,768]

I'm excited for it to be dark at 8:30 in the mornings during the middle of winter.

[Ag with kids 581]

2 minutes ago, Deej said:

I'm excited for it to be dark at 8:30 in the mornings during the middle of winter.

I'm not a morning person and all my kids are grown so I don't care if it's dark in the morning.

And I don't care if it inconveniences anyone else.  My opinion is that it's better to have more daylight later in the day and my opinion is the only correct one.

[Guest Lobo]

My friend Kramer can tell time just by looking at the sun.  It's tougher for him at night, but that's only for a couple of hours.  

I think this is such news because of the margin it passed by.  Every year, some politician says one soundbite about it, but this is a marked shift.  

I'm sure something weird will happen in the House.  Somebody will claim the sun is an illusion perpetuated by Jewish space lasers or some shit and it'll never make it conference committee.  I could go either way on this thing, but consistency would be nice.  But then.....I'm not a witch.

[dcar00 14,182]

8 minutes ago, Deej said:

I'm excited for it to be dark at 8:30 in the mornings during the middle of winter.

gonna take longer for that ice to melt in the AM.

I would have been good with spliting the difference at 30 minutes and be done with it.

[Johnny Sack 8,397]

13 minutes ago, Deej said:

I'm excited for it to be dark at 8:30 in the mornings during the middle of winter.

As someone who hunts a lot, I love it.

[dcar00 14,182]

6 minutes ago, Lobo said:

My friend Kramer can tell time just by looking at the sun.  It's tougher for him at night, but that's only for a couple of hours.  

I think this is such news because of the margin it passed by.  Every year, some politician says one soundbite about it, but this is a marked shift.  

I'm sure something weird will happen in the House.  Somebody will claim the sun is an illusion perpetuated by Jewish space lasers or some shit and it'll never make it conference committee.  I could go either way on this thing, but consistency would be nice.  But then.....I'm not a witch.

the awesome thing is more sun for your solar panels!

[RDCanecutter 26,428]

Time Zones are a relic of the railroads and other tentacles of Big Clock. Time was, people went by the actual local time. Sun's straight up? Noon. Can't see the sun? Break time.

There's no reason we couldn't go back to that. Zulu time for everything computerized that needs a time. For humans though? The phone can tell where you are, so it could tailor your personal clock to what the time actually is based on how far your exact spot has to go til noon or midnight.

Will Zoom meetings not start on time? Of course not. But they don't anyway.

['stache 21,813]

I don't care which one, just stop fucking changing it every few months.