We Own this City HBO limited series by David Simon

[Gil Bang 26028]

9 hours ago, South Austin said:

I'm interested to see how Jamie Hector does as a cop.  I never saw Bosch.  But he did a great job playing such an evil piece of shit as Marlo Stanfield in The Wire.  Will start watching this weekend.

The fuck? 

[Gil Bang 26028]

BTW, a ton of Wire alums show up on Blue Bloods.

[Augustus 3061]

Just watched ep 3

Goddammit.  Marlo is such a good dude in this one and he's gonna get taken down with all these scumbags.

Edited May 12, 2022 by Augustus

[Augustus 3061]

6 hours ago, Jerry Callo said:

That's a bit harsh, isn't it.  Marlo was just a shrewd businessman.

Anti-social personality disorder is a huge advantage in organized crime.

[Buzzrock 14942]

That scene where the cop is telling the civil rights lawyer how the city has lost the juries. Damn.

[BHMCruiser 1817]

I just finished the first episode. I thought it was terrible. Does it get better?

[4th&Five 41590]

[BHMCruiser 1817]

I loved the Wire. I thought the first episode of We Own This City was objectively terrible. 

[TommyGufano 6021]

6 hours ago, BHMCruiser said:

I just finished the first episode. I thought it was terrible. Does it get better?

Honestly I thought the first episode was the best of the three and that it was excellent.

Soooo... not sure how to respond

[BHMCruiser 1817]

17 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

Honestly I thought the first episode was the best of the three and that it was excellent.

Soooo... not sure how to respond

How about "no, it does not get better."

[TommyGufano 6021]

1 hour ago, BHMCruiser said:

How about "no, it does not get better."

Right. But someone with shit taste might feel the opposite

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

Good to Simon get his fastball back. The Deuce was... not good. 

[BHMCruiser 1817]

Obviously I'm the minority opinion here, but that's exactly what I felt about the first episode of We Own This City. I felt like Simon had lost it. I was utterly uncompelled by any aspect of the show. It compares poorly to The Wire.

[Augustus 3061]

I didn't find the first episode compelling either, but I've liked the last two.

[Buzzrock 14942]

So we have “no it doesn’t” and “yes it does”. What else can we come up with for Birmingham Cruiser?

[BrickTop 477]

Was interested in this back story and read the book I got a monster by Woods and Soderberg and holy shit these guys were so corrupt for so long that it’s almost unbelievable, I have a background in Civil Service and for the most part rationally and reasonably support the police. That being said to have this level of police corruption for the length in which they had it is terrifying and for the amount of lies these guys ruined with absolute frame jobs I hope they all rot in prison. These guys crossed the line early and were 100 percent criminal for years.

[A-Tex Devil 2463]

I don’t recall The Wire season 1 being particularly compelling until the third episode. So even if you didn’t like the first episode, stick with it.  It’s a tryptich (actually, I think four timelines) and it doesn’t hold the viewers hand outside of Wayne Jenkins’ formative cop years with those police report cuts.  I presume it all comes together to the timeline where Jenkins and team are being interrogated.  

[demos 3011]

Marlo became a cop

Poot policing in the county. Landsman is now the commissioner.

Also caught some lines that are wire throwbacks.

[BHMCruiser 1817]

On 5/13/2022 at 8:56 PM, Buzzrock said:

So we have “no it doesn’t” and “yes it does”. What else can we come up with for Birmingham Cruiser?

How about "meh"

[Buzzrock 14942]

I like it. I wish they would drop the rest all at once. 

[utxmike05 1828]

Too many characters, side plots, and LE departments involved.  I gotta pay attention too much....probably going to wait until it's all out.  I'm stuck on Ep 2 for like a week.

[Hank Scorpio 17731]

This show is good as hell and if you don’t like it you are wrong. 

[AUS-97HORN 11824]

its eye-opening thats for sure.

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

I don’t see this ending well for Jamie Hector’s character. He was probably the cleanest cop in the Gun Taskforce, got forced into taking some money, and then tried to go straight on Homicide. He’s probably wearing jumpsuits with the rest of them. 

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

Jenkins drinks Mike’s Hard Lemonade and has a fat dwarf fetish. Even without the corruption, he’s a POS. 

[RPM 26355]

Berenthal plays assholes so well.

[CooterBrown 18031]

Jenkins drinks Mike’s Hard Lemonade and has a fat dwarf fetish. Even without the corruption, he’s a POS. 

Gotta chase that Pat Ron with something.

[Augustus 3061]

9 hours ago, RPM said:

Berenthal plays assholes so well.

He plays stupid, really insecure assholes so well, it's truly impressive.

Every nuance, every microexpression...  spot on.

[RPM 26355]

11 minutes ago, Augustus said:

He plays stupid, really insecure assholes so well, it's truly impressive.

Every nuance, every microexpression...  spot on.

He was completely believable in Fury. 

[utxmike05 1828]

11 minutes ago, RPM said:

He was completely believable in Fury. 

Will watch anything with him in it.

I remember first seeing him in early seasons of the walking dead.  Should have kept him around longer...

[TheStoicPaisano 9939]

You robbed the midget stripper?? 
 

simon’s comic fingerprints are all over this one, but we only have six episodes to tell the story rather than a baker’s dozen in Wire/Treme/Deuce. So that gets tamped down in favor of some Captain Exposition malarkey with Wunmi or the FBI agents. I guess we’ll never see that farm to table strip joint.

Edited May 17, 2022 by TheStoicPaisano

[RPM 26355]

10 minutes ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

we only have six episodes to tell the story

Damn, didn't know it was only 6.

[Buzzrock 14942]

Jenkins drinks Mike’s Hard Lemonade and has a fat dwarf fetish. Even without the corruption, he’s a POS. 

He was drinking some other garbage in the bar scene too. Hard iced tea maybe? Gross.

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

2 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

He was drinking some other garbage in the bar scene too. Hard iced tea maybe? Gross.

Yeah he switched to hard iced tea. No explanation given. Plot hole!

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

I’m really enjoying Jamie Hector’s performance. The guy has range. The tension, his dread, and inner conflict all feel real. 
 

I haven’t read the book, but Hector’s character should have grabbed a half ass attorney and sprinted to the feds to make a deal. One of the Gun Taskforce cooperating witnesses is going to throw him under the bus. 

[TommyGufano 6021]

My guess is we get Bernthal interrogation scene next week and he names Hector's character. Or maybe not. IDK. But I do hope to see Bernthal in an extended interrogation scene

[Mez2 4025]

geto boys reference, FTW!

 

 

[A-Tex Devil 2463]

The Ringer podcast said it best. This is what happens when Prez (as a cop), Herc and early Carver get promoted.  Who knew The Wire was painting a positive picture of BPD?

[BrickTop 477]

I’m really enjoying Jamie Hector’s performance. The guy has range. The tension, his dread, and inner conflict all feel real. 
 
I haven’t read the book, but Hector’s character should have grabbed a half ass attorney and sprinted to the feds to make a deal. One of the Gun Taskforce cooperating witnesses is going to throw him under the bus. 

He’d have a real hard time hiring an attorney, pretty tragic story

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

14 hours ago, TommyGufano said:

My guess is we get Bernthal interrogation scene next week and he names Hector's character. Or maybe not. IDK. But I do hope to see Bernthal in an extended interrogation scene

They showed a clip of Jenkins getting interrogated by the feds in the finale preview. Should be a great scene. 

[HornOnTheBayou 8947]

On 5/17/2022 at 2:38 PM, TheStoicPaisano said:

I guess we’ll never see that farm to table strip joint.

Aggies everywhere when that realization hits them:

[WBT 20670]

Bernthal is incredible in this.  I just watched episode 4...lulz at Jenkins's shitty acting when they recreate opening the safe for the camera.

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

Not sure what Simon is trying to say after the finale. Every cop on the Gun Taskforce received hefty sentences. Even the cooperating witnesses got north of 7 years. 
 

I get it. His overarching message is : the war of drugs is lost and the system is broken. But, we’re talking about corrupt cops doing decades in prison. Isn’t that a victory?

[AUS-97HORN 11824]

I took it to mean the entire City of Baltimore is completely and totally lost. 

Almost every single elected or appointed leader in that fucking city in the last 10 years has either quit, been fired,  or plead guilty to federal crimes.

[WBT 20670]

Hey Brandi, can I get a fucking wine cooler?

[TommyGufano 6021]

1 hour ago, WBT said:

Hey Brandi, can I get a fucking wine cooler?

It's like I'm wearing a goddamn invisibility cloak here

[Parliament 14316]

On 5/17/2022 at 12:20 PM, Augustus said:

He plays stupid, really insecure assholes so well, it's truly impressive.

 

He must post in the CR.

[RPM 26355]

9 hours ago, AUS-97HORN said:

I took it to mean the entire City of Baltimore is completely and totally lost. 

Almost every single elected or appointed leader in that fucking city in the last 10 years has either quit, been fired,  or plead guilty to federal crimes.

That was my take as well.

[billfromlaketravis 11524]

Some additional thoughts: 

- Suiter had to stand up. He was a father and a husband. Gotta stay strong for your family. Suicide is the most selfish ending. Simon definitely thinks it was a suicide and filmed it as such. 
- Was a forfeiture of assets part of Jenkins plea? He easily stole several hundred thousand dollars. 
- I don’t get sentencing guidelines. All the cops that didn’t cooperate received north of 12 years. The underboss of the Philly crime family just took a 6.5 year plea on a RICO/drug case. I guess the government nailed the cops on abuse of power?
- Hersl was very dumb taking his case to trial. It will probably cost him 6 years of his life. Why did he think a jury in Baltimore would give him a favorable verdict?

- If the bail bondsman doesn’t talk, I wonder what kind of plea the government offers Jenkins? They had a lot of evidence, but the bondsman put it all together. It reminded me of Gravino flipping on Gotti. 
 

I need to read the book. 

[Augustus 3061]

I don't know how Suiter could pull off a suicide that wouldn't be ruled as such.

If he shoots himself in the head, how are ballistics not going to match the shot to the gun that would be lying right beside/underneath him?

Was he hoping the conclusion would be that the "perp" turned his own weapon on him, fired at close range, and left the gun behind?

I just don't see how it's remotely possible a cop could shoot himself in the head and have it ruled anything but suicide.

That would seemingly require the partner's participation to stage the scene.