OK, Laptop was real. MSM corruption

[Passive Aggressive Coach 87]

How horrible is this for any democracy? Trump was right. Story was deleted from all media right before the election. I know the CR here will defend it but this is one of the worst things ever in an election. Laptop was all real but all stories got scrubbed and even the NY post got banned from social media,  CBS needs to apologize to Trump. Trump was right all the time. I wont even post his speeches to the UN and NATO. He was right on it all in his rough way (different subject).

CR defend what happened...

 

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Passive Aggressive Coach

[Passive Aggressive Coach 87]

I want a debate here. So all of MSM and the dems called the laptop a Russian plant. Turns out it was all real. Whole thing was actually a false story by the dems and media. no one cares though because orange bad man out. There has to be at least 1 or 2 CR people that sees this as very bad?

[Passive Aggressive Coach 87]

BTW he may run again and I hope he doesn't just on all the nonsense like this he was proven right on.

[Passive Aggressive Coach 87]

Also, remember this? It was all confirmed from the texts and emails on the laptop now. Man, I get the left got their ends to the means, But this looks bad now. We all knew he wasnt lying. This dude is 100% American. Turns out as I thought he was not BS'ing. The president's son had business interests in Ukraine and China. He got paid. Biden took pics with some of the oligarchs. Story was real all suppressed as "russian disinformation".

 

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Passive Aggressive Coach

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13547]

1 hour ago, Passive Aggressive Coach said:

I want a debate here. So all of MSM and the dems called the laptop a Russian plant. Turns out it was all real. Whole thing was actually a false story by the dems and media. no one cares though because orange bad man out. 

What was real but actually false?

Edited March 20, 2022 by Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand

[WhatTheBuck 28713]

It was a perfect laptop.

[justhookit 4180]

Trump is a disgusting piece of human excrement. If he was right it was an accident. And I’m a Republican.

Edited March 20, 2022 by justhookit

[Dahobbs 17447]

I don't think anyone thought the laptop didn't physically exist or that there wasn't some legitimate information from Hunter Biden on it. What is questionable is how the laptop got to repair shop and how the information got on the laptop. What is also more than questionable is why any of it matters or why you think it is a story again. (Hint: the answer to a lot of those questions are going to involve Russia). 

[Dahobbs 17447]

And just so everyone else knows, the OP was made at 11 am Moscow time. Shocking, I know. 

[AnTiM 1659]

Using the video of a liar like Tucker Carlson to support any statement leaves me doubting the statement.  

[TexArcher 37519]

How do you say, "Go fuck a goat" in Russian?

[TwiceHorn 31283]

As Dahobbs said, I don't think anyone contested whether the laptop was Hunter Biden's.

But it was highly suspicious that it turned up in the way it did at the time it did.

You may not know this, but when a computer is analyzed, forensic techniques are employed to insure that the data contained on it is not "tampered with."  There was zero evidence that anything remotely like those forensic techniques was followed in producing the allegedly "incriminating" data on the laptop.

Random shitheads turned up with various emails and things, of uncertain provenance, claiming they were from the Biden laptop.  And made wildly extravagant claims about what they proved.

It was suspicious.  And that is what the MSM reported.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/21/politics/fbi-russia-disinformation/index.html

5 hours ago, Passive Aggressive Coach said:

So all of MSM and the dems called the laptop a Russian plant.

You're going to have to show your work here.  This seems to be the source of the "Russian plant" notion https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

MSM reported that, too.

The problem is, team Trump doesn't have much credibility on things like this.  And why would you expect Dems to run with any other story?  They are a political party, you know, and they don't have spectacular records for veracity and candor.  The fat orange baboon out front should have told you that.

And, of course, here's the fake NYT with the story.

But most of all, what difference does it make.  We know that Hunter Biden is a drug and sex-addicted loose cannon with some shady associates and business dealings.  Even with the fevered reporting of the alleged contents of the laptop, there still isn't anything legitimately connecting Joe to Hunter's shenanigans.

But the best question of all is why are you digging around on right-wing media at 2AM on a Sunday morning, CDT.

 

Edited March 20, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[JimmyJames 12271]

Passive aggressive troll had himself a late night. 
 

I also have a laptop but it’s at my office. Maybe I should go get it after breakfast.

[TwiceHorn 31283]

Strangely enough, found this on Rep. Andy Biggs' congressional site. https://biggs.house.gov/media/in-the-news/hunter-biden-laptop-claims-5-fast-facts-you-need-know

It's a prettly legit summary of the laptop situation, even coming from a partisan hack like Biggs, who has every incentive to inflate claims, but I guess restrained himself because it is actually on his congressional website.

As far as I can tell, the laptop story was fairly REPORTED.

PACs problem seems to be with who was believed and how it was editorialized.

Edited March 20, 2022 by TwiceHorn

[Shaddie 1638]

My faves include MSM. All of them are in on the conspiracy.  
5-6 knew of watergate yet it came out. 
2 knew of Bill’s bj. Yet it came out. 
Not sure but very few knew of WMD lie and it came out. 
 

However tens of thousands can ALL make this story go away. 
 

cocaine, booze and bi-polar disorder are a bitch. 

[Anastasis 23394]

53 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

As Dahobbs said, I don't think anyone contested whether the laptop was Hunter Biden's.

But it was highly suspicious that it turned up in the way it did at the time it did.

You may not know this, but when a computer is analyzed, forensic techniques are employed to insure that the data contained on it is not "tampered with."  There was zero evidence that anything remotely like those forensic techniques was followed in producing the allegedly "incriminating" data on the laptop.

Random shitheads turned up with various emails and things, of uncertain provenance, claiming they were from the Biden laptop.  And made wildly extravagant claims about what they proved.

It was suspicious.  And that is what the MSM reported.  https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/21/politics/fbi-russia-disinformation/index.html

You're going to have to show your work here.  This seems to be the source of the "Russian plant" notion https://www.politico.com/f/?id=00000175-4393-d7aa-af77-579f9b330000

MSM reported that, too.

The problem is, team Trump doesn't have much credibility on things like this.  And why would you expect Dems to run with any other story?  They are a political party, you know, and they don't have spectacular records for veracity and candor.  The fat orange baboon out front should have told you that.

And, of course, here's the fake NYT with the story.

But most of all, what difference does it make.  We know that Hunter Biden is a drug and sex-addicted loose cannon with some shady associates and business dealings.  Even with the fevered reporting of the alleged contents of the laptop, there still isn't anything legitimately connecting Joe to Hunter's shenanigans.

But the best question of all is why are you digging around on right-wing media at 2AM on a Sunday morning, CDT.

 

Do you have any concerns about the deplatforming of the NY Post over the story? The “intelligence” community jumping into the fray in the run up to the election? Anything here that should concern us for broader reasons? The crack head is not the issue, imo. 

[Nivek 16861]

6 hours ago, Passive Aggressive Coach said:

I want a debate here. So all of MSM and the dems called the laptop a Russian plant. Turns out it was all real. Whole thing was actually a false story by the dems and media. no one cares though because orange bad man out. There has to be at least 1 or 2 CR people that sees this as very bad?

OK.  I'll debate you.  Should we do it in English or in your native Ruskie? 

[Bama Chick 28596]

[Nivek 16861]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Do you have any concerns about the deplatforming of the NY Post over the story? The “intelligence” community jumping into the fray in the run up to the election? Anything here that should concern us for broader reasons? The crack head is not the issue, imo. 

You are really going to have to be more specific with that last line.    I can't tell if you are talking about Hunter, Surly, the OP, or the NY Post.

[Pam Cummings 9582]

Well i'm glad this is settled then.

[6th Street 6357]

Definitely not voting for Hunter if this is the case!

[Pam Cummings 9582]

Remember that time OP wandered into the "shit on blast" thread to whine about his rep and got his account neg bombed and had to created a new one to come back and whine about the cloak room being the reason it all happened? That shit was funny.

[South Austin 52144]

Trump is piece of dick.

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19092]

Can we finally crowd source this moron?  I did it once, after he repeatedly posted vaccine misinformation.  He came back.  Time to make it permament.

[Johnny Sack 8397]

4 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

I don't think anyone thought the laptop didn't physically exist or that there wasn't some legitimate information from Hunter Biden on it. What is questionable is how the laptop got to repair shop and how the information got on the laptop. What is also more than questionable is why any of it matters or why you think it is a story again. (Hint: the answer to a lot of those questions are going to involve Russia). 

It is shocking a loser crack addict with a stellar history of decision making would abandon his computer.  Most likely it was the Russians.  Occam’s razor.  

[Dahobbs 17447]

19 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Do you have any concerns about the deplatforming of the NY Post over the story? The “intelligence” community jumping into the fray in the run up to the election? Anything here that should concern us for broader reasons? The crack head is not the issue, imo. 

Yeah, the NY Post is really suffering now. Can't even get any stories out now that it has been deplatformed. 

[Sawbonz 27436]

6 hours ago, Passive Aggressive Coach said:

How horrible is this for any democracy? Trump was right. Story was deleted from all media right before the election. I know the CR here will defend it but this is one of the worst things ever in an election. Laptop was all real but all stories got scrubbed and even the NY post got banned from social media,  CBS needs to apologize to Trump. Trump was right all the time. I wont even post his speeches to the UN and NATO. He was right on it all in his rough way (different subject).

CR defend what happened...

 

 

I don’t recall add any “MSM” outlet questioning whether the laptop belonged to Hunter. Do you have a link?

The shop owner’s not giving it directly to federal - or at least local - authorities is hugely problematic. Giving it to Giuliani was a death blow as far as credibility goes IMO

Hunter’s trading on his family name is ethically and morally wrong IMO but AFAIK not illegal. If you have evidence Joe Biden materially benefited from Hunter’s deals link it or STFU

[Dahobbs 17447]

6 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

It is shocking a loser crack addict with a stellar history of decision making would abandon his computer.  Most likely it was the Russians.  Occam’s razor.  

No, what's shocking is that he would keep a store of sensitive emails in PDF format on his laptop in a folder called "super secret, don't share" and directly next to the large stash of self made porn.  And it would all be on the shadiest of shady laptops that looked like it was slapped together with just enough components to barely operate. And it would be left in the hands of a computer repair shop that never seemed to do anything or know anything about computers. 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Dahobbs

[Nivek 16861]

5 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

It is shocking a loser crack addict with a stellar history of decision making would abandon his computer.  Most likely it was the Russians.  Occam’s razor.  

Are you speaking about yourself?  That is a little harsh man but it would explain so much.   

[Neonmoon 38127]

27 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Strangely enough, found this on Rep. Andy Biggs' congressional site. https://biggs.house.gov/media/in-the-news/hunter-biden-laptop-claims-5-fast-facts-you-need-know

It's a prettly legit summary of the laptop situation, even coming from a partisan hack like Biggs, who has every incentive to inflate claims, but I guess restrained himself because it is actually on his congressional website.

As far as I can tell, the laptop story was fairly REPORTED.

PACs problem seems to be with who was believed and how it was editorialized.

That’s actually a really good link. 

Basically no one could confirm that it was Hunters laptop at the time, even the Post that originally reported it. 

[freyguy 4245]

[Anastasis 23394]

3 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Yeah, the NY Post is really suffering now. Can't even get any stories out now that it has been deplatformed. 

You are smarter than that post suggests. 

[Neonmoon 38127]

23 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Do you have any concerns about the deplatforming of the NY Post over the story? The “intelligence” community jumping into the fray in the run up to the election? Anything here that should concern us for broader reasons? The crack head is not the issue, imo. 

What did the intelligence community do?

[Dahobbs 17447]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

You are smarter than that post suggests. 

What should we be concerned with? That a story that the New York post ran with before verifying any information at all or looking into the shady place and timing of it all, was initially taken down from some social media platforms (and eventually reinstated after a brief period) or that someone definitely planted that laptop in the shop with as much bad information about hunter as possible? Personally, I think the latter is more concerning. And the New York Post wasn't deplatformed in the slightest. 

[Judge Roybeanbag 11810]

12 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I don’t recall add any “MSM” outlet questioning whether the laptop belonged to Hunter. Do you have a link?

The shop owner’s not giving it directly to federal - or at least local - authorities is hugely problematic. Giving it to Giuliani was a death blow as far as credibility goes IMO

Hunter’s trading on his family name is ethically and morally wrong IMO but AFAIK not illegal. If you have evidence Joe Biden materially benefited from Hunter’s deals link it or STFU

Yes, for God’s sake, we can’t have any people in power making money off the family name.  That would be totally unacceptable.  Edit, hope you read the sarcasm meter, wasn’t directed at you.  

Edited March 20, 2022 by Judge Roybeanbag

[Anastasis 23394]

1 minute ago, Dahobbs said:

What should we be concerned with? That a story that the New York post ran with before verifying any information at all or looking into the shady place and timing of it all, was initially taken down from some social media platforms (and eventually reinstated after a brief period) or that someone definitely planted that laptop in the shop with as much bad information about hunter as possible? Personally, I think the latter is more concerning. And the New York Post wasn't deplatformed in the slightest. 

Maybe you are not. 

[Dahobbs 17447]

2 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

Maybe you are not. 

What evil is it that you think happened? For once in your life, just directly state your opinion rather than beat around the bush with vague questions and insinuations. The story was taken down from some platforms for a couple of days, largely because the NY Post did zero journalism in actually verifying anything. 

Edited March 20, 2022 by Dahobbs

[hobbes2702 12846]

8 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

What evil is it that you think happened? For once in your life, just directly state your opinion rather than beat around the bush with vague questions and insinuations. The story was taken down from some platforms for a couple of days, largely because the NY Post did zero journalism in actually verifying anything. 

[Mrs Whiggins 13049]

7 hours ago, Passive Aggressive Coach said:

Trump was right. Story was deleted from all media right before the election. I know the CR here will defend it but this is one of the worst things ever in an election. Laptop  was all real but all stories got scrubbed and even the NY post got banned from social media,  CBS needs to apologize to Trump.

OK Jimbo.

If you happen to catch up to Buzz after the NIT, he will tell you your 'process is obviously flawed.'

[BrickHorn 18194]

Weird that Anastasis of all people would show up to white knight for an obvious Russian troll. 

 

[Johnny Sack 8397]

32 minutes ago, Nivek said:

Are you speaking about yourself?  That is a little harsh man but it would explain so much.   

You really got me.  

[Goredho 17349]

#1 I can’t defend Hunter Biden’s ownership of a laptop.  I’m pretty sure he’s guilty of that.

#2 You’ll have to remind me what crimes were believed to be committed on the laptop and what evidence of them has been found to exist on this laptop.

#3 If evidence of a crime does exist on his son’s laptop, how was President Biden involved either directly or in a cover up?  We can compare and contrast that to the crimes and coverups Trump, his family and his operatives have committed.  I mean, I don’t think Biden has pardoned Hunter or anyone else in his admin like Trump pardoned Flynn, Manafort and Stone who were all found guilty in a court of law?

#4 I wonder what’s about to drop for your ilk to want to bring Hunter Biden back to the forefront of the news cycle?  Some Jan 6 panel findings about to drop?

[Pato del Muerto 52342]

40 minutes ago, Johnny Sack said:

It is shocking a loser crack addict with a stellar history of decision making would abandon his computer.  Most likely it was the Russians.  Occam’s razor.  

The idea that a drug addict would do something like that is actually the most believable part of the story. 
 

it’s the remainder that is highly questionable- the stuff you don’t address. Who the computer guy is. Who he gave the computer to. How long it remained in his possession. When it happened. When they brought it forward into the public/media. What was found on it.  Who they did/didn’t give it to for forensic audit. 
 

 

[JimmyJames 12271]

All this thread needs now is GRUhorns and the donkey dudes current handles to chime in and we can then make this thread the greatest hits of CR trolling. 

[Nivek 16861]

You really got me.  

I have clowned you so often I don’t want to get crowdsourced for beating the dead horse. At this point I kind of feel like a bully, but well, you deserve it for your dishonesty.

[Shaddie 1638]

The reason this comes up is cause the magas see more and more evidence they have been lied to and desperately want to cling to any teddy bear that will justify their beliefs. Nothing else. 

[Willfully Horn 7916]

13 minutes ago, Goredho said:

#2 You’ll have to remind me what crimes were believed to be committed on the laptop and what evidence of them has been found to exist on this laptop.

Reposted. 

[JimmyJames 12271]

It really is hilarious what all these right wing idiots get all whipped up in a frenzy about.

Nobody gives a shit about hunter Biden and his porn filled laptop.

It’s gotta be one miserable existence being a right wing idiot and totally exhausting. Good. 

[BrickHorn 18194]

23 minutes ago, Goredho said:

#1 I can’t defend Hunter Biden’s ownership of a laptop.  I’m pretty sure he’s guilty of that.

#2 You’ll have to remind me what crimes were believed to be committed on the laptop and what evidence of them has been found to exist on this laptop.

#3 If evidence of a crime does exist on his son’s laptop, how was President Biden involved either directly or in a cover up?  We can compare and contrast that to the crimes and coverups Trump, his family and his operatives have committed.  I mean, I don’t think Biden has pardoned Hunter or anyone else in his admin like Trump pardoned Flynn, Manafort and Stone who were all found guilty in a court of law?

#4 I wonder what’s about to drop for your ilk to want to bring Hunter Biden back to the forefront of the news cycle?  Some Jan 6 panel findings about to drop?

#5 The New York Post was deplatformed. DEPLATFORMED, I SAY!

[Hornius Emeritus 12420]

I, for one, never had any doubt that Hunter Biden owns a laptop. I do, and he's ten times wealthier than I am.