OK, Laptop was real. MSM corruption

[Dahobbs 17449]

Funny story, the website for James Madison's baseball camp has been down for some time. I'm sure it is a coincidence and nothing at all to do with a Russian agent taking over an old account and pretending to be an American. 

[DDD Dad 14252]

14 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

This is the part about thanking troops or police for their service that gets me.  Once you see through the façade and recognize it as all for show it becomes an insult for you to do it, even if sincere because it is a co-opted virtue signal done by the morally bankrupt.

[Bateshorn 9905]

5 hours ago, pacman said:

So, turns out Hunter has been under investigation all along and the right are still crying about what? That there weren't enough news stories run on a laptop that has no chain of custody and appeared out of nowhere?

Meanwhile, known tax dodger Trump and family have several ties to foreign business deals during Presidency, and significant histories with Russia and China banks, but that should be ignored and there are no open investigations there.

They are crying about it because their attempts to engineer an October surprise didn’t take and it makes them angry as hell.

 

I will say this, there is a fair amount of shady foreign money sloshing around DC.  For people who are tangentially connected to things in DC, you can make stupid amounts of money because foreigners assume our government is as corrupt as their second or third world nation, so hiring the failson of a VP Is basically a lock for influence peddling.  And forking over huge sums of cash seems totally normal to them, because that’s what they do in their country. 

Would Exxon or NRDC ever hire someone line Hunter Biden? Of course not, you want the former committee clerk of EPW or a senior EPA official, because they actually know how to accomplish things in our bureaucratic system. But to someone from Ukraine or China, you just assume a connected political child can accomplish things for you. 

[wildcat09 29261]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Funny story, the website for James Madison's baseball camp has been down for some time. I'm sure it is a coincidence and nothing at all to do with a Russian agent taking over an old account and pretending to be an American. 

Naw man, it's tjhooker. His twitter account is still really easy to find and it looks like there's some corroboration on there.

[TexasEd 8064]

3 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

They are crying about it because their attempts to engineer an October surprise didn’t take and it makes them angry as hell.

 

I will say this, there is a fair amount of shady foreign money sloshing around DC.  For people who are tangentially connected to things in DC, you can make stupid amounts of money because foreigners assume our government is as corrupt as their second or third world nation, so hiring the failson of a VP Is basically a lock for influence peddling.  And forking over huge sums of cash seems totally normal to them, because that’s what they do in their country. 

Would Exxon or NRDC ever hire someone line Hunter Biden? Of course not, you want the former committee clerk of EPW or a senior EPA official, because they actually know how to accomplish things in our bureaucratic system. But to someone from Ukraine or China, you just assume a connected political child can accomplish things for you. 

 

[jimmyjazz 45560]

3 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

I will say this, there is a fair amount of shady foreign money sloshing around DC.  For people who are tangentially connected to things in DC, you can make stupid amounts of money because foreigners assume our government is as corrupt as their second or third world nation, so hiring the failson of a VP Is basically a lock for influence peddling.  And forking over huge sums of cash seems totally normal to them, because that’s what they do in their country. 

Would Exxon or NRDC ever hire someone line Hunter Biden? Of course not, you want the former committee clerk of EPW or a senior EPA official, because they actually know how to accomplish things in our bureaucratic system. But to someone from Ukraine or China, you just assume a connected political child can accomplish things for you. 

Good news:  we're approaching those countries' level of depravity.  Globalists!

[F250 28691]

3 hours ago, Sawbonz said:

Can you repost your ex’s tits before you go? tia

 

That one got ruined when some shagster started talking about her double chin. lol This site is the worst.

 

[seven 1366]

Man, tjhooker is a blast from the past. Pretty impressive to be remembered as the least intelligent member of a message board that includes people like Onboard. 

[wildcat09 29261]

What's really funny is that he never originally got banned, whether by mods or crowdsource. He asked for his account and all his posts to be deleted, then I guess came back dumber and drunker under some new names.

[Sawbonz 27439]

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

Funny story, the website for James Madison's baseball camp has been down for some time. I'm sure it is a coincidence and nothing at all to do with a Russian agent taking over an old account and pretending to be an American. 

No Russian troll is going to know about the Tj hooker scatfest on shaggy much less the phantom wheeler bus to OSU. 

[Da Fino 2740]

14 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Naw man, it's tjhooker. His twitter account is still really easy to find and it looks like there's some corroboration on there.

Yeah his facebook is about what you would expect. Shitty smoked meats and right wing memes. 

[cactusflinthead 27594]

5 hours ago, Serak The Preparer said:

Look you know your shit about geopolitics, but settle down on the relative importance of the butthole. /@NowThis

I dunno. They gave me a box to poop in and ship off for testing. And one year we took a long hard look up the President's ass.

None of which I found particularly enjoyable.

[wildcat09 29261]

This made me take a walk back through the mail bomber thread where he really starred. All his posts are deleted of course, but not people quoting him. This was truly special:

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You guys are talking to me like I am some idiot.  This might blow your mind because I am pretty sure by the response here anyone you guys if someone in anyway believe things counter to your thought structure is an idiot.  I have a degree from UT in Gov't and have worked in politics for a portion of my life before I wanted to make real money and not deal with the bullshit.  I am not an uneducated and believe it or not I am feel well educated on what I am talking about.  There is a reason I don't post in CR much because it is a shit show.  I'll hang up and listen.

RIP tjhooker version 3 or 4 or whatever. You were a delicate soul.

[Sawbonz 27439]

2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

What's really funny is that he never originally got banned, whether by mods or crowdsource. He asked for his account and all his posts to be deleted, then I guess came back dumber and drunker under some new names.

Well his ex had left him for a fellow addict she met at inpatient rehab not sure I would want that out there

[wildcat09 29261]

2 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Well his ex had left him for a fellow addict she met at inpatient rehab not sure I would want that out there

I somehow missed that. What happened, she finally sobered up and saw his face?

[Longhorn_Fan68 33843]

lol at this self-own of a thread

[Bama Chick 28596]

What's really funny is that he never originally got banned, whether by mods or crowdsource. He asked for his account and all his posts to be deleted, then I guess came back dumber and drunker under some new names.

Because he doxxed himself by using the same username on every single platform.

(Ask me who figured that out and dropped some subtle hints here?)

He’s an idiot.

[Brisketexan 104629]

36 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

They are crying about it because their attempts to engineer an October surprise didn’t take and it makes them angry as hell.

 

I will say this, there is a fair amount of shady foreign money sloshing around DC.  For people who are tangentially connected to things in DC, you can make stupid amounts of money because foreigners assume our government is as corrupt as their second or third world nation, so hiring the failson of a VP Is basically a lock for influence peddling.  And forking over huge sums of cash seems totally normal to them, because that’s what they do in their country. 

Would Exxon or NRDC ever hire someone line Hunter Biden? Of course not, you want the former committee clerk of EPW or a senior EPA official, because they actually know how to accomplish things in our bureaucratic system. But to someone from Ukraine or China, you just assume a connected political child can accomplish things for you. 

If we want to take this post off on the tangent of actually talking about Hunter Biden and his potential foreign entanglements, Bates' post cuts right to it.  ESPECIALLY the bolded parts.

The funny thing is that it's long been just a path to bilk crooked foreigners out of lots of money.  You are paying me for my influence.  But I have little influence, and what little I have largely doesn't play with my parent.

The funnier thing is that is changing, and the last administration was the moving force in that regard.  Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka, Jared?  They were not the POTUS.  They were just his kids/son-in-law.  But suddenly, paying for access to them DID pay off.  Because they were functionally parts of the administration.

In short, the "Hunter Biden scandal" is exhibit eleventy billion in "every accusation is a confession."  Hunter being involved in anything remotely political means he must be a crook.....because the Trump kids complete crooks in connection with their political roles.

[Dahobbs 17449]

26 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

No Russian troll is going to know about the Tj hooker scatfest on shaggy much less the phantom wheeler bus to OSU. 

Definitely less embarrassing to be a paid Russian troll. 

[Serak The Preparer 3424]

1 hour ago, seven said:

Man, tjhooker is a blast from the past. Pretty impressive to be remembered as the least intelligent member of a message board that includes people like Onboard. 

We'll always have @markstanco.

[Francisco 2.0 32343]

Hey look, a MSM article about Hunter's laptop drive:

 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2022/03/30/hunter-biden-laptop-data-examined/

 

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Thousands of emails purportedly from the laptop computer of Hunter Biden, President Biden’s son, are authentic communications that can be verified through cryptographic signatures from Google and other technology companies, say two security experts who examined the data at the request of The Washington Post.

The verifiable emails are a small fraction of 217 gigabytes of data provided to The Post on a portable hard drive by Republican activist Jack Maxey. He said the contents of the portable drive originated from Hunter Biden’s MacBook Pro, which Hunter reportedly dropped off at a computer repair shop in Wilmington, Del., in April 2019 and never reclaimed.

 

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The vast majority of the data — and most of the nearly 129,000 emails it contained — could not be verified by either of the two security experts who reviewed the data for The Post. Neither found clear evidence of tampering in their examinations, but some of the records that might have helped verify contents were not available for analysis, they said. The Post was able in some instances to find documents from other sources that matched content on the laptop that the experts were not able to assess.

 

 

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Among the reasons for the inconclusive findings was sloppy handling of the data, which damaged some records. The experts found the data had been repeatedly accessed and copied by people other than Hunter Biden over nearly three years. The MacBook itself is now in the hands of the FBI, which is investigating whether Hunter Biden properly reported income from business dealings.

 

Spoiler

Most of the data obtained by The Post lacks cryptographic features that would help experts make a reliable determination of authenticity, especially in a case where the original computer and its hard drive are not available for forensic examination. Other factors, such as emails that were only partially downloaded, also stymied the security experts’ efforts to verify content.

The contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop computer have sparked debate and controversy since the New York Post and other news organizations in the closing month of the 2020 presidential campaign reported stories based on data purportedly taken from it.

Many Republicans have portrayed this data as offering evidence of misbehavior by Hunter Biden that implicated his father in scandal, while Democrats have dismissed it as probable disinformation, perhaps pushed by Russian operatives acting in a well-documented effort to undermine the elder Biden. Facebook and Twitter in 2020 restricted distribution of stories about the drive’s contents out of concern that the revelations might have resulted from a nefarious hacking campaign intended to upend the election, much as Russian hacks of sensitive Democratic Party emails shaped the trajectory of the 2016 election.

The Washington Post’s forensic findings are unlikely to resolve that debate, offering instead only the limited revelation that some of the data on the portable drive appears to be authentic. The security experts who examined the data for The Post struggled to reach definitive conclusions about the contents as a whole, including whether all of it originated from a single computer or could have been assembled from files from multiple computers and put on the portable drive.

At The Post’s request, Matt Green, a Johns Hopkins University security researcher who specializes in cryptography, and Jake Williams, a forensics expert and former National Security Agency operative who once hacked the computers of foreign adversaries, separately examined two copies The Post made of the portable drive Maxey provided.

The portable drive provided to The Post contains 286,000 individual user files, including documents, photos, videos and chat logs. Of those, Green and Williams concluded that nearly 22,000 emails among those files carried cryptographic signatures that could be verified using technology that would be difficult for even the most sophisticated hackers to fake.

2 experts used email headers to determine veracity

Such signatures are a way for the company that handles the email — in the case of most of these, Google — to provide proof that the message came from a verified account and has not been altered in some way. Alterations made to an email after it has been sent cause the cryptographic signatures to become unverifiable.

The verified emails cover a time period from 2009 to 2019, when Hunter Biden was acting as a consultant to companies from China and Ukraine, and exploring opportunities in several other countries. His father was vice president from 2009 to 2017.

Many of the nearly 22,000 verified emails were routine messages, such as political newsletters, fundraising appeals, hotel receipts, news alerts, product ads, real estate listings and notifications related to his daughters’ schools or sports teams. There was also a large number of bank notifications, with about 1,200 emails from Wells Fargo alone.

Other emails contained exchanges with Hunter Biden’s business partners, personal assistants or members of his family. Some of these emails appear to offer insights into deals he developed and money he was paid for business activities that opponents of his father’s bid for the presidency sought to make a campaign issue in 2020.

In particular, there are verified emails illuminating a deal Hunter Biden developed with a fast-growing Chinese energy conglomerate, CEFC China Energy, for which he was paid nearly $5 million, and other business relationships. Those business dealings are the subject of a separate Washington Post story published at the same time as this one on the forensic examinations of the drive.

The drive also includes some verified emails from Hunter Biden’s work with Burisma, the Ukrainian energy company for which he was a board member. President Donald Trump’s efforts to tie Joe Biden to the removal of a Ukrainian prosecutor investigating Burisma led to Trump’s first impeachment trial, which ended in acquittal in February 2020.

The Post’s review of these emails found that most were routine communications that provided little new insight into Hunter Biden’s work for the company.

 

The laptop’s journey begins

John Paul Mac Isaac, the owner of the Wilmington repair shop, has said he received the 13-inch MacBook Pro on April 12, 2019, when Hunter Biden asked him to recover data from the computer because it had been damaged by liquid.

According to Mac Isaac’s attorney, Brian Della Rocca, recovering the data was challenging for Mac Isaac.

“He would boot the computer and transfer as much as he could before the computer shut down. Then, he would boot up the computer again, verify what was copied, and then transfer more data until the computer shut down again. This process repeated several times,” Della Rocca said in a prepared statement.

When his work was completed, Della Rocca said, Mac Isaac repeatedly attempted to contact Hunter Biden, who had signed a repair authorization, to advise him the laptop was ready to be picked up, but Hunter never responded. Della Rocca added that Mac Isaac finally came to regard the MacBook as abandoned property.

In July 2019, when news of Hunter Biden’s business dealings with Ukraine was gaining attention — largely because Trump’s private attorney, Rudy Giuliani, was making public allegations of wrongdoing — Mac Isaac contacted the FBI about the MacBook.

On Dec. 9, 2019, FBI agents from the Wilmington field office served a subpoena on Mac Isaac for the laptop, the hard drive and all related paperwork.

“He willingly gave it to the FBI and was happy to see it go,” Della Rocca said.

He added that Mac Isaac, before turning over the computer, made a copy of its hard drive “in case he was ever thrown under the bus as a result of what he knew.”

By then, Trump’s first impeachment trial, which ran from Jan. 16 to Feb. 5, 2020, was underway and Mac Isaac attempted to contact several members of Congress, none of whom replied.

He later contacted Giuliani, whose attorney, Robert Costello, responded almost immediately.

In an email with the subject line “Why is it so difficult to be a whistleblower when you are on the right?” written on Aug. 26, 2020, Mac Isaac told Costello that he had copies of the hard drive from Hunter Biden’s laptop.

“For my protection I made sevral copies and I have been trying quietly to bring it to peoples attention. I am reaching out to you for assistance and making sure the people that need to know about this do.”

Costello said he received a copy of the laptop’s hard drive from Mac Isaac. Giuliani has said he provided that data to the New York Post.

After the New York Post began publishing reports on the contents of the laptop in October 2020, The Washington Post repeatedly asked Giuliani and Republican strategist Stephen K. Bannon for a copy of the data to review, but the requests were rebuffed or ignored.

In June 2021, Maxey, who previously worked as a researcher for Bannon’s “War Room” podcast, delivered to The Washington Post a portable hard drive that he said contained the data. He said he had obtained it from Giuliani.

Responding to findings from news organizations that some material on the drive could be corroborated, Mac Isaac said in a statement: “I am relieved that finally, after 18 months of being persecuted and attacked for my actions, the rest of the country is starting to open their eyes.”

What the experts found

In their examinations, Green and Williams found evidence that people other than Hunter Biden had accessed the drive and written files to it, both before and after the initial stories in the New York Post and long after the laptop itself had been turned over to the FBI.

Maxey had alerted The Washington Post to this issue in advance, saying that others had accessed the data to examine its contents and make copies of files. But the lack of what experts call a “clean chain of custody” undermined Green’s and Williams’s ability to determine the authenticity of most of the drive’s contents.

“The drive is a mess,” Green said.

He compared the portable drive he received from The Post to a crime scene in which detectives arrive to find Big Mac wrappers carelessly left behind by police officers who were there before them, contaminating the evidence.

That assessment was echoed by Williams.

“From a forensics standpoint, it’s a disaster,” Williams said. (The Post is paying Williams for the professional services he provided. Green declined payment.)

But both Green and Williams agreed on the authenticity of the emails that carried cryptographic signatures, though there was variation in which emails Green and Williams were able to verify using their forensic tools. The most reliable cryptographic signatures, they said, came from leading technology companies such as Google, which alone accounted for more than 16,000 of the verified emails.

Neither expert reported finding evidence that individual emails or other files had been manipulated by hackers, but neither was able to rule out that possibility.

They also noted that while cryptographic signatures can verify that an email was sent from a particular account, they cannot verify who controlled that account when the email was sent. Hackers sometimes create fake email accounts or gain access to authentic ones as part of disinformation campaigns — a possibility that cannot be ruled out with regard to the email files on Hunter Biden’s laptop.

Williams wrote in his technical report that timestamps on a sampling of documents and operating system indexes he examined were consistent with each other, suggesting the authenticity of at least some of the files that lacked cryptographic signatures. But he and Green agreed that sophisticated hackers could have altered the drive’s contents, including timestamps, in a way difficult and perhaps impossible to detect through forensic examination alone.

Analysis was made significantly more difficult, both experts said, because the data had been handled repeatedly in a manner that deleted logs and other files that forensic experts use to establish a file’s authenticity.

“No evidence of tampering was discovered, but as noted throughout, several key pieces of evidence useful in discovering tampering were not available,” Williams’ reports concluded.

Some contents matched data from other sources

Out of the drive’s 217 gigabytes of data, there are 4.3 gigabytes of email files.

Green, working with two graduate students, verified 1,828 emails — less than 2 percent of the total — but struggled with others that had technical flaws they could not resolve. He said the most common problems resulted from alterations caused when the MacBook’s mail-handling software downloaded files with attachments in a way that made cryptographic verification of those messages difficult.

Williams verified a larger number of emails, nearly 22,000 in total — which included almost all of the ones Green had verified — after overcoming that problem by using software to correct alterations in the files. But he encountered obstacles with other emails that were only partially downloaded onto the drive, creating incomplete files that could not be verified cryptographically. Most of these files, he said, were probably just snippets of emails that would allow a user to preview the messages without downloading the full files.

The cryptographic verification techniques worked only on incoming emails, not ones that were sent from Hunter Biden’s accounts. Because the purpose of these signatures is to verify the identity of senders, only the records of an incoming email would contain signatures.

In addition to emails, the drive includes hundreds of thousands of other documents, including more than 36,000 images, more than 36,000 iMessage chat entries, more than 5,000 text files and more than 1,300 videos, according to tallies made by Williams, who, like Green, could not definitively verify any of them. In a small number of cases, The Post was able to establish the veracity of some of these files, such as bank documents, by obtaining copies from other sources.

Among the emails verified by Williams and Green were a batch of messages from Vadym Pozharskyi, an adviser to the board of Burisma, the Ukrainian gas company for which Hunter Biden was a board member. Most of these emails were reminders of board meetings, confirmation of travel, or notifications that his monthly payment had been sent.

Both Green and Williams said the Burisma emails they verified cryptographically were likely to be authentic, but they cautioned that if the company was hacked, it would be possible to fake cryptographic signatures — something much less likely to happen with Google.

One of the verified emails from Pozharskyi, which was the focus of one of the initial stories from the New York Post, was written on April 17, 2015. It thanked Hunter Biden “for inviting me to DC and giving me an opportunity to meet your father and spent [sic] some time together.”

When the email first emerged in the New York Post about three weeks before the 2020 election, the Biden campaign and Hunter Biden’s lawyer both denied that Pozharskyi had ever met with Joe Biden. Asked recently about the email, the White House pointed to the previous denials, which The Post has examined in detail.

Some other emails on the drive that have been the foundation for previous news reports could not be verified because the messages lacked verifiable cryptographic signatures. One such email was widely described as referring to Joe Biden as “the big guy” and suggesting the elder Biden would receive a cut of a business deal. One of the recipients of that email has vouched publicly for its authenticity but President Biden has denied being involved in any business arrangements.

New folders created on drive given to The Post

The Post spent months reviewing the data on the portable drive in its entirety and seeking forensic verification of its contents. It made two new copies of the portable drive provided by Maxey so the experts could analyze them.

Green examined the drive first and, based on his initial findings, urged The Post to seek a second review to verify more of its contents. The Post then hired Williams, who has conducted forensic analyses for Fortune 100 financial services companies and also did similar work during his time at the NSA. He is now on the faculty of the information security research group IANS.

Many questions about the drive remained impossible to answer definitively. That includes what happened during a nearly year-long period of apparent inactivity from September 2019 — about five months after Hunter Biden reportedly dropped off the laptop at the repair shop — until August 2020, when the presidential campaign involving his father was entering its final months.

Soon after that period of inactivity — and months after the laptop itself had been taken into FBI custody — three new folders were created on the drive. Dated Sept. 1 and 2, 2020, they bore the names “Desktop Documents,” “Biden Burisma” and “Hunter. Burisma Documents.”

Williams also found records on the drive that indicated someone may have accessed the drive from a West Coast location in October 2020, little more than a week after the first New York Post stories on Hunter Biden’s laptop appeared.

Over the next few days, somebody created three additional folders on the drive, titled, “Mail,” “Salacious Pics Package” and “Big Guy File” — an apparent reference to Joe Biden.

Attempts to verify the emails relied mainly on a technology called DKIM, which stands for DomainKeys Identified Mail. DKIM is a cryptographic technology used by Google and some other email services to verify the identities of senders.

Williams also used a second cryptographic technology called ARC, for Authenticated Received Chain. It was created to make cryptographic verification possible even when email moves through multiple services.

Williams said ARC, though slightly less reliable than DKIM, was a worthy alternative for emails for which DKIM verification was not possible. Overall, his list of emails included 16,425 verified by DKIM and 5,521 verified by ARC.

There are limits to cryptographic verification of emails, both experts said. Not all email services provide cryptographic signatures, and among those that did, not all did so with the care of Google, which is regarded within the technology industry as having strong security protocols. Green and Williams said the only realistic way to fake Google’s DKIM signatures would be to hack the company’s own secure servers and steal private cryptographic keys — something they considered unlikely even for nation-state-level hackers using the most advanced techniques.

 

[RomaVicta 29795]

It's impossible that MSM will ever write a word about Hunter Biden. All that I know about the issue was beamed straight into my brain by the universe. 

Edited April 1, 2022 by RomaVicta

[Anastasis 23394]

2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

There was also a large number of bank notifications, with about 1,200 emails from Wells Fargo alone.

Hunter Biden supports Wells Fargo with his business may be the most damaging thing that I can imagine. 

[CowboyFred 1151]

5 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

Naw man, it's tjhooker. His twitter account is still really easy to find and it looks like there's some corroboration on there.

Yea, “he” isn’t really making it all that difficult.

Edited April 1, 2022 by CowboyFred
No dox I guess even if he did the doxing

[Anastasis 23394]

^not cool @CowboyFred

[CowboyFred 1151]

7 minutes ago, Anastasis said:

^not cool @CowboyFred

The guy literally posted his son’s picture and full name. I’ll edit just in case it’s considered doxing even though I don’t agree with it. He’s fucking around and finding out.

[Anastasis 23394]

2 minutes ago, CowboyFred said:

The guy literally posted his son’s picture and full name. I’ll edit just in case it’s considered doxing even though I don’t agree with it. He’s fucking around and finding out.

That’s a fair point.m (I may have missed name posting). But don’t think that any more dots are required.

Edited April 1, 2022 by Anastasis

[Bateshorn 9905]

6 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

If we want to take this post off on the tangent of actually talking about Hunter Biden and his potential foreign entanglements, Bates' post cuts right to it.  ESPECIALLY the bolded parts.

The funny thing is that it's long been just a path to bilk crooked foreigners out of lots of money.  You are paying me for my influence.  But I have little influence, and what little I have largely doesn't play with my parent.

The funnier thing is that is changing, and the last administration was the moving force in that regard.  Don Jr., Eric, Ivanka, Jared?  They were not the POTUS.  They were just his kids/son-in-law.  But suddenly, paying for access to them DID pay off.  Because they were functionally parts of the administration.

In short, the "Hunter Biden scandal" is exhibit eleventy billion in "every accusation is a confession."  Hunter being involved in anything remotely political means he must be a crook.....because the Trump kids complete crooks in connection with their political roles.

Yeah. I mean the the banality of the Hunter Biden scandal is that he didn’t disburse people of the the reality he couldn’t do shit. People kept asking/assuming he could do stuff, and he came up with a pathetic “maybe.” Was that his addiction or weak moral character? Yes. But that’s really all he did.  It sounds like post Obama presidency he tried to rope his dad in and got the firm stiff arm. 
 

As a father who is sending my kids out into the world as legal adults, I am terrified of the “Yeah, that doesn’t seem like a good idea, Buddy, but ultimately, your a grown up” discussion.  

Edited April 1, 2022 by Bateshorn

[wildcat09 29261]

3 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Hunter Biden supports Wells Fargo with his business may be the most damaging thing that I can imagine. 

If he's done anything to deserve prison, it's that.

[Brisketexan 104629]

11 hours ago, Bateshorn said:

Yeah. I mean the the banality of the Hunter Biden scandal is that he didn’t disburse people of the the reality he couldn’t do shit. People kept asking/assuming he could do stuff, and he came up with a pathetic “maybe.” Was that his addiction or weak moral character? Yes. But that’s really all he did.  It sounds like post Obama presidency he tried to rope his dad in and got the firm stiff arm. 
 

As a father who is sending my kids out into the world as legal adults, I am terrified of the “Yeah, that doesn’t seem like a good idea, Buddy, but ultimately, your a grown up” discussion.  

I mean, the temptation is pretty strong.

"Hey Brisket, Igor and I would like to pay you $50 million, make you Executive Vice Grand Poobah of Ukrainian Scam Company #4 -- you don't have to do anything but show up at some meetings with a big nameplate that happens to be the same last name as the US VP, and maybe you could talk to your dad about our business when you can."

Odds are very high my answer would have been "I dunno....50 million?  Can you make it 60 million?"  And then I would have taken whatever they offered.  Because that's a LOT of hookers and blow money.

And while it's skeezy and slimy as hell, it's also most likely 100% legal.  And in the end, mostly a waste of money, because the US system just isn't anywhere close to as corrupt as the system Igor is used to playing in (where $50 million gives him a great ROI).  Of course, under the Trump admin.....that shit changed.   Which is why every accusation is a confession, exhibit 10,567,894.

[C-Man 27059]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Of course, under the Trump admin.....that shit changed.   Which is why every accusation is a confession, exhibit 10,567,894.

This cannot be repeated enough.

[TwiceHorn 31288]

8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

I mean, the temptation is pretty strong.

"Hey Brisket, Igor and I would like to pay you $50 million, make you Executive Vice Grand Poobah of Ukrainian Scam Company #4 -- you don't have to do anything but show up at some meetings with a big nameplate that happens to be the same last name as the US VP, and maybe you could talk to your dad about our business when you can."

Odds are very high my answer would have been "I dunno....50 million?  Can you make it 60 million?"  And then I would have taken whatever they offered.  Because that's a LOT of hookers and blow money.

And while it's skeezy and slimy as hell, it's also most likely 100% legal.  And in the end, mostly a waste of money, because the US system just isn't anywhere close to as corrupt as the system Igor is used to playing in (where $50 million gives him a great ROI).  Of course, under the Trump admin.....that shit changed.   Which is why every accusation is a confession, exhibit 10,567,894.

As I said here or elsewhere, it doesn't meet the "appearance of impropriety" ethical standard.

But that standard hasn't been seriously applied to non-judicial government officials maybe ever, certainly not recently.

[WhatTheBuck 28713]

19 hours ago, seven said:

Man, tjhooker is a blast from the past. Pretty impressive to be remembered as the least intelligent member of a message board that includes people like Onboard. 

Dumber than Rocko and Swam?

[WhatTheBuck 28713]

19 hours ago, wildcat09 said:

This made me take a walk back through the mail bomber thread where he really starred. All his posts are deleted of course, but not people quoting him. This was truly special:

RIP tjhooker version 3 or 4 or whatever. You were a delicate soul.

Lulz. I too am feel well educated on what I am talking about.

[mchookem 16226]

23 hours ago, Dahobbs said:

George Soros is on there. That is awesome. 

Soros mention!

 

[Guest Lobo]

If you took a drink every time they said "George Soros", you wouldn't be reading this because you'd be dead. 

Biff Tannen and I started the same game for the mention of a Mister Ronan Sinatra, which is why one of us periodically disappears from the site for 24 hours every now and again.  Which I know is a welcome reprieve for many of you.  

Again, I have my own independent doubts regarding Hunter Biden's engagement with foreign governments and foreign corporations.  That other dispersions cast on him constantly come from Trump worshippers just doesn't fuck help though.  There's "what-about-ism" and then there's literally the most corrupt family to ever inhabit the White House trying to claim, "He traded on the family name", when that's literally all the Trump's have going for them...is the family name.  Of course every President has put family and friends in positions of power in their administration.  Half the Bush administration lives in Austin in a life of luxury because of the connections they made while he was in the Oval Office.  But it came through legit streams of income.  They served in government, left office, went private sector, traded on their old title, and made a few bucks without hurting anybody.  What the Trumps have done is not in the same galaxy as that.  But again, you can't teach stupid...so who fucking cares at this point? 

[JimmyJames 12271]

23 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Dumber than Rocko and Swam?

I realize that’s a high bar but that guy manages to exceed it. 

[pacman 7330]

Bet, this ends in a whimper and tax payment of sorts.

But, Hunter probably used his dads name for personal gain!!!??

Oh, Ignore Trump using the Presidency for personal gain!!!

Then, we will all still be left to wonder why the fbi and doj continue to engage in wild goose chases against the left, while ignoring the misdeeds of the right.

Trump has been under irs audit for at least a decade. No payments. No charges for a clear tax cheat.

No fbi investigations of his or his children business dealings during Presidency.

No discussion of the huge sums of taxpayers funds that flowed to his properties during his 4 years.

No investigation into struggling properties suddenly booked full by foreign governments for 4 years. Kuwait. Turkey. Saudi Arabia. Etc.

No punishment for Bannon on the build the wall fraud.

The list goes on, but it's the left that controls everything, like the illuminati, according to the numbnuts.

[Zeus 5950]

https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliviergarret/2020/09/10/why-bill-gates-is-betting-millions-on-synthetic-biology/?sh=7cc7b8065c6a

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenmcbride1/2021/03/22/bill-gates-wants-rich-countries-to-move-to-100-synthetic-beef-but-heres-the-opportunity-behind-this-trend/?sh=367c684f6899

I wish Bill Gates would move to eating 100% shit

[TwiceHorn 31288]

5 minutes ago, Zeus said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliviergarret/2020/09/10/why-bill-gates-is-betting-millions-on-synthetic-biology/?sh=7cc7b8065c6a

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenmcbride1/2021/03/22/bill-gates-wants-rich-countries-to-move-to-100-synthetic-beef-but-heres-the-opportunity-behind-this-trend/?sh=367c684f6899

I wish Bill Gates would move to eating 100% shit

Wut?

[Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand 13547]

40 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Wut?

FAKE BEEF!

[hobbes2702 12847]

1 hour ago, Zeus said:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliviergarret/2020/09/10/why-bill-gates-is-betting-millions-on-synthetic-biology/?sh=7cc7b8065c6a

https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephenmcbride1/2021/03/22/bill-gates-wants-rich-countries-to-move-to-100-synthetic-beef-but-heres-the-opportunity-behind-this-trend/?sh=367c684f6899

I wish Bill Gates would move to eating 100% shit

You seem not smart 

[Underdog 28457]

49 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

FAKE BEEF!

 

[Guest Lobo]

the only think harder to find on this site than an admitted Trump voter is someone who ate one of his steaks.  or his wine.  

They'll buy the dumbest fucking shit he has to shill.  My cousin bought a $200 commemorative set of Trump coins which literally sits atop their dining room next to a crucifix and photographs of her children.  But buy something useful like steak or wine, nah...that's for the masses...

[fattyflattie 4636]

35 minutes ago, Lobo said:

the only think harder to find on this site than an admitted Trump voter is someone who ate one of his steaks.  or his wine.  

There are people here who voted for him in ‘16, many actually.  But no one has eaten them fucking “steaks”. 
 

On 3/31/2022 at 3:00 PM, Bama Chick said:

Because he doxxed himself by using the same username on every single platform.

(Ask me who figured that out and dropped some subtle hints here?)

Forgive me if I’m misremembering, but weren’t you upset about a year ago when some folks on here were doxing you, or threatening to?  

[Guest Lobo]

2 minutes ago, fattyflattie said:

There are people here who voted for him in ‘16, many actually.  But no one has eaten them fucking “steaks”.  

I know they exist, I just haven't seen one.  I'm sure there's a couple whom I could question but they'd post back in all caps with, "YOU CAN'T ASK ME WHO I VOTED FOR, HIPAA VIOLATION!"  Real stable geniuses as you know.  You're right though, there were quite a few (don't remember names, don't care) that did proudly post in 2016/17 that they had voted for him.  But that got scarce real quick.  Now there's literally nobody around that will admit to voting for him once, let alone twice.  

But yeah, those steaks.  I'm sure it was a decent meat product (that's what Ivanka said), but after seeing how he eats them...no honorable Texan carnivore should partake.  

But you look at some of the consumer goods he lent his name to:  Steaks, Wine, Ice Bottled Water, Chocolate, Fragrance, Neckties, Boardgames, Vodka, Select Coffee drinks, etc.  It's like we elected PRESIDENT SKYMALL.

Then you look at his myriad business ventures (aside from bankrupted casinos which is technically impossible to do if you know maths):  Trump Resorts, Trump Golf, Trump Steakhouse, Trump Shuttle, Trump Airlines, USFL franchise, Trump Home Furnishings, and Trump Gaming.  Basically the guy ran a collection of vouchers you get in a gift bag at the end of a gala or stuff you wished you hadn't bid on during the silent auction.  He was probably weeks away from selling nudes of Ivanka, but lucky for her and incest laws, he won the White House and stayed his debt payments.  

[fattyflattie 4636]

8 minutes ago, Lobo said:

But yeah, those steaks. 

I’ll never forgive that motherfucker for what he’s done to the GOP, but would pull the lever tomorrow if it was that or eat that steak. Sort of kidding. 

[Guest Lobo]

I can't post pics, but here's a photo with three egregious things in it:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/food/hey-trump-wheres-the-beef-trump-steaks-are-so-rare-we-cant-even-find-one/2016/03/22/175b682a-ebc3-11e5-bc08-3e03a5b41910_story.html

People make fun of the way he holds a glass of water, or bibles, or his pubescent daughter.  But the way he holds a steak is fucking ridiculous.  Even a butcher or a griller wouldn't hold it like that to show off.  Second, that's a petit filet which also make his hands look even more creepy small.  He has really weirdly small hands for a guy of his height.  Finally, marketing dipshit that he is.  Shows off the filets (as you do in the business), and then runs over to the carving station to eat well done shit sirloin with ketchup.  That's not how you upsell, Commander Dipshit.  

 

Okay, back to the laptop...does it make a whirring sound when running too many tabs?  

[Satchel 6908]

So, is the takeaway from the laptop obsession that Hunter Biden is a tax cheat? What’s the story?

[Biff Tannen 45499]

1 hour ago, Satchel said:

So, is the takeaway from the laptop obsession that Hunter Biden is a tax cheat? What’s the story?

I think it's that you can get a good look at a T-bone by sticking your head up a butcher's ass... No, wait. It's gotta be your bull.