2022 Summer Season: Flavor-Aid (Strength: Prison Wine)

[futureman 22562]

2 hours ago, Hookem2147 said:

In FEI rankings, Washington was 17th in 2014 (his first year) and jumped to 4th in 2015. Yards per play went from 31st to 22nd. Yards per game went from 58th to 28th.

I think we were at least 17th last year. 

[LTtxfan 49386]

57 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Agree with all this. Overshown was just as bad as Brockermeyer last year but people see him flash every few games and it skews perception. Like you said, he has the athleticism to do stuff LB’s shouldn’t be able to do, but the mundane stuff that all LB’s should be able to do wasn’t clicking fully. He ran himself out of so many plays. I don’t think he possesses the ability to short through the pile and find ball carriers, which is why the move to more of an edge like well will likely unlock some of what we’ve been hoping to see from him the last few years.

Great post...

Scipio was extremely critical of Overshown's consistency last year as well.  At times shows up and makes big splash plays, but often was terrible on basic LB plays.  

Hopefully it all comes together for DeMarvion in 2022, and he busts out with a great season for Texas.  

[LTtxfan 49386]

Sark press conference tomorrow (Aug 2nd) at 12:30pm according to HornFM.

Also...

 

[gmr548 16617]

5 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

OL: Andrej Karic (LT), Junior Angilau (LG), Jake Majors (C), Hayden Conner (RG), Christian Jones (RT) / Kelvin Banks (LT), Cole Hutson (RG), Junior Angilau (C), Sawyer Goram-Welch(RG), Cam Williams (RT)

DE: Moro Ojomo, Barryn Sorrell
NT: Keondre Coburn, Byron Murphy
DT: Alfred Collins, T’Vondre Sweat
Buck: Ovie Oghoufo, Jett Bush

Just quoting this in case anyone goes a little too hard on Kool Aid.

For the bolded, specifically:

[closetojumping 62918]

7 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Just quoting this in case anyone goes a little too hard on Kool Aid.

For the bolded, specifically:

I think they did a poor job of framing what their intent was, but I believe they were just presenting what the DC would look like before the practices, therefore the guys that weren't here in the spring wouldn't be on the two-deep until at least one workout. 

I hope that is what they were doing, because there isn't a chance in hell that SGW is ahead of Campbell and others by La Monroe. 

I also enjoyed the part where they listed Hudson Card first. @closetohumping no doubt popped a chubby. In reality, I expect Seven Loss Steve to name Ewers the starter after the first scrimmage. He doesn't need to wait, as Card isn't going anywhere, and he can end the charade so everyone can get on the same page quickly. As well, Ewers didn't get hooked up for a lot of NIL support to sit on the sidelines while Hudson Card throws pick sixes with his panicked eyes bugging out against Bama.

[gmr548 16617]

3 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I think they did a poor job of framing what their intent was, but I believe they were just presenting what the DC would look like before the practices, therefore the guys that weren't here in the spring wouldn't be on the two-deep until at least one workout. 

I hope that is what they were doing, because there isn't a chance in hell that SGW is ahead of Campbell and others by La Monroe. 

I also enjoyed the part where they listed Hudson Card first. @closetohumping no doubt popped a chubby. In reality, I expect Seven Loss Steve to name Ewers the starter after the first scrimmage. He doesn't need to wait, as Card isn't going anywhere, and he can end the charade so everyone can get on the same page quickly. As well, Ewers didn't get hooked up for a lot of NIL support to sit on the sidelines while Hudson Card throws pick sixes with his panicked eyes bugging out against Bama.

I'd imagine they're doing the old school "freshmen/newcomers have to earn their spot" bit. It is as old as football itself. They just don't even have the bodies to even pretend at tackle. It was funny seeing SGW's name, one I hadn't heard in a long time. The DL and OT situations still profile as pretty ugly unless some established guys raise their level of play pretty significantly though.

What are you talking about - there's totally a legit QB competition!1!1!1!

[closetohumping 17491]

9 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I think they did a poor job of framing what their intent was, but I believe they were just presenting what the DC would look like before the practices, therefore the guys that weren't here in the spring wouldn't be on the two-deep until at least one workout. 

I hope that is what they were doing, because there isn't a chance in hell that SGW is ahead of Campbell and others by La Monroe. 

I also enjoyed the part where they listed Hudson Card first. @closetohumping no doubt popped a chubby. In reality, I expect Seven Loss Steve to name Ewers the starter after the first scrimmage. He doesn't need to wait, as Card isn't going anywhere, and he can end the charade so everyone can get on the same page quickly. As well, Ewers didn't get hooked up for a lot of NIL support to sit on the sidelines while Hudson Card throws pick sixes with his panicked eyes bugging out against Bama.

Look, I'm a gentleman and I realize we're both Longhorn fans first, gamblers second.  So, I'm willing to let you out of the bet.  This has nothing to do with Handsome Hudson throwing an ugly pick 6 his first pass.

[closetojumping 62918]

3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

Look, I'm a gentleman and I realize we're both Longhorn fans first, gamblers second.  So, I'm willing to let you out of the bet.  This has nothing to do with Handsome Hudson throwing an ugly pick 6 his first pass.

Sir, I have already added the $1000 you're giving me to my September budget. I need it to cover the costs of escargot and caviar in the back half of the month.

[closetohumping 17491]

2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Sir, I have already added the $1000 you're giving me to my September budget. I need it to cover the costs of escargot and caviar in the back half of the month.

I know a fish monger that can get you some eggs on the cheap.  

 

What was our payment plan anyway?  Just venmo @immamac?

[closetojumping 62918]

19 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I know a fish monger that can get you some eggs on the cheap.  

 

What was our payment plan anyway?  Just venmo @immamac?

We can just venmo the winner. Or paypal. I wind up getting trapped paying for babysitters and shit with my venmo. 

[BurntOrange&White 40059]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

We can just venmo the winner. Or paypal. I wind up getting trapped paying for babysitters and shit with my venmo. 

Be sure to select this option to prevent charge backs 

 

[closetohumping 17491]

4 minutes ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Be sure to select this option to prevent charge backs 

 

[BERT 4394]

3 hours ago, FreeHorn said:

Bo is going to have to earn his salary and find a way to keep Sweat and Collins’ motor running. Those two with Murphy would change a lot of thoughts for this defense. Ford and Dorsey are upgrades at LB because we honestly had the worst LB in the Big 12. 
 

how old is Ojomo now?

He’s 13. He’s like Benjamin Button

[NoRagrets 1128]

If Hudson Card is named the starter for game 1, the entire board will realize that the burnt orange IT kool-aide they've been drinking was spiked harder than the shit at Jonestown.  But at least that kool-aide ended quickly with death.  This shit just makes you vomit mediocrity and false hope for 10 more years.

[Codaxx 5912]

3 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

If Hudson Card is named the starter for game 1, the entire board will realize that the burnt orange IT kool-aide they've been drinking was spiked harder than the shit at Jonestown.  But at least that kool-aide ended quickly with death.  This shit just makes you vomit mediocrity and false hope for 10 more years.

I am conflicted. I dont want to see that happen, but God I would love to see the Surly meltdown if it did. 

[JFKFC 4897]

6 minutes ago, NoRagrets said:

If Hudson Card is named the starter for game 1, the entire board will realize that the burnt orange IT kool-aide they've been drinking was spiked harder than the shit at Jonestown.  But at least that kool-aide ended quickly with death.  This shit just makes you vomit mediocrity and false hope for 10 more years.

I've always assumed Card would start game 1 and QE would play a lot in the 2nd half when the game is out of hand. Then Card would start our unwinnable game 2. Of course, he will look terrible. Anyone would behind our o-line. QE will again play a good bit in the 2nd half when Bama no longer cares and he will look better than Card. QE then starts the rest of the year. 

[Red Five 41009]

7 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

I've always assumed Card would start game 1 and QE would play a lot in the 2nd half when the game is out of hand. Then Card would start our unwinnable game 2. Of course, he will look terrible. Anyone would behind our o-line. QE will again play a good bit in the 2nd half when Bama no longer cares and he will look better than Card. QE then starts the rest of the year. 

No I think he'll probably want to go with the better QB from the jump, as opposed to the guy they were scared to death to play last year, to the point that they went with an injured Casey Thompson instead. 

[derpyhorndog 2577]

11 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

I've always assumed Card would start game 1 and QE would play a lot in the 2nd half when the game is out of hand. Then Card would start our unwinnable game 2. Of course, he will look terrible. Anyone would behind our o-line. QE will again play a good bit in the 2nd half when Bama no longer cares and he will look better than Card. QE then starts the rest of the year. 

[Codaxx 5912]

3 hours ago, JFKFC said:

https://www.pff.com/news/draft-2022-nfl-draft-disappointing-college-football-draft-prospects-2021-spencer-rattler-kedon-slovis

LB DEMARVION OVERSHOWN, TEXAS

Overshown already had a hill to climb as a mold-breaker type of linebacker, as very few 6-foot-4 and 223-pound guys have been able to stick it at linebacker in the NFL.

Unsurprisingly, the physicality of playing between the tackles has been an issue for him this season. He’s missed seven tackles on 39 attempts and earned a putrid 43.9 run-defense grade. While his length still plays in coverage, he’d be a liability as a traditional linebacker in the NFL today.

This one is par for the course. I say he has his issues, but give him some credit. That must have been like the Bat Signal for you to run in and shit on a player. 

[Codaxx 5912]

4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

No I think he'll probably want to go with the better QB from the jump, as opposed to the guy they were scared to death to play last year, to the point that they went with an injured Casey Thompson instead. 

I will so happy to never hear this again. 

[Codaxx 5912]

I did this today elsewhere.. I thought this will make people sick

QBR rating for the Starter vs Top 50 defenses. 

ULL_ 93.6 QBR (50th)

Ark- 14.2 QBR (17th)

OSU- 18.4 QBR (#2)

Baylor- 77.1 (#14)

ISU- 2.8 (#22)

WV- 4.0 (#32)

KSU- 79.2 (#16)

 

[Hookem2147 21374]

Hey there Mr. football coach who just went 5-7 and needs to win football games to keep your job, would you consider starting an inferior player in a football game where they keep score to protect the better player?

[Nivek 17011]

Is this the bitchassedness thread?  

[JFKFC 4897]

30 minutes ago, Red Five said:

No I think he'll probably want to go with the better QB from the jump, 

Card will likely appear to be the better QB from the jump. I hope not...but...I think this is what Sark will do. 

 

27 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

This one is par for the course. I say he has his issues, but give him some credit. That must have been like the Bat Signal for you to run in and shit on a player. 

I will not hesitate to shit on DO. He was terrible last year and will be a liability again this year. Keep praising him. I know that makes you feel better. 

[Codaxx 5912]

9 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

Card will likely appear to be the better QB from the jump. I hope not...but...I think this is what Sark will do. 

 

I will not hesitate to shit on DO. He was terrible last year and will be a liability again this year. Keep praising him. I know that makes you feel better. 

I didnt praise him. 

 

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Overshown is one of the most talented LBs in the country. He hasnt put it together or stayed healthy,  but the talent is there. I have said that the faults compounded the poor play. There wasnt a group on defense that made anyone better. It was a negative multiplier.

doesnt seem like high praise

 

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Overshown has shown he can play in space, he can blitz, and if sees ball and chases ball he is good. 

I have consistently criticized his ability to make timely reads, that said we have to give him some credit. 

 

again that is not a ton of praise. 

IF all that  looks like uncalled for praise to you, than why be a fan? It clearly can not give you any joy. The only joy you seem to find is shitting on players, which is pretty odd way of expressing yourself as a Texas fan. Perhaps it is my fault, I tend to forget we are in the internet where players are either the greatest or complete shit and anything in between is a ridiculous statement. 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Codaxx

[closetohumping 17491]

53 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

I've always assumed Card would start game 1 and QE would play a lot in the 2nd half when the game is out of hand. Then Card would start our unwinnable game 2. Of course, he will look terrible. Anyone would behind our o-line. QE will again play a good bit in the 2nd half when Bama no longer cares and he will look better than Card. QE then starts the rest of the year. 

[Slacks 6898]

20 hours ago, Nivek said:

I thought mandingo/mandinka fights were just fiction. Am I wrong?

WERE YOU THERE?!?!

 

 

[Sawbonz 27712]

13 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

He was terrible last year and will be a liability again this year

He seems like another defender who will have a forgettable career here and will be a multi year contributor in the NFL

[Knoxtnhorn 6072]

1 hour ago, JFKFC said:

I've always assumed Card would start game 1 and QE would play a lot in the 2nd half when the game is out of hand. Then Card would start our unwinnable game 2. Of course, he will look terrible. Anyone would behind our o-line. QE will again play a good bit in the 2nd half when Bama no longer cares and he will look better than Card. QE then starts the rest of the year. 

Same here.  This seems as logical as anything I can think of per the balancing act of everyone involved.

[Nivek 17011]

again that is not a ton of praise. 

Friends, morons, degenerates lend me your ear. I came to bury Overshown, not to praise him!

[JFKFC 4897]

17 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

I didnt praise him. 

 

4 hours ago, Codaxx said:

Overshown has shown he can play in space, he can blitz, and if sees ball and chases ball he is good. 

 

 

[derpyhorndog 2577]

Won't even go into the Card side of the ledger because it's a known quantity. As for Ewers: competed and exceled at highest level of TX HSFB as an underclassman, generational arm talent, one of three QBs with perfect composite rating, exudes confidence, "gunslinger" reputation (see point re confidence), strong pocket presence. By first kickoff, will have 3 camps at the NCAA level under his belt, plus hands-on coaching by Sark, et. al. this summer to help further accelerate his familiarity with our system.

Even if he's slightly behind Card on playbook/system, it shouldn't be by much. Ewers is the textbook "high ceiling" play in all other categories. This year is pivotal for Sark and has to know he has to swing for the fences beginning the starting pitch (i.e., Week 1) in general, and on the offensive side specifically given known deficiencies on the other.

And haven't even mentioned the backdrop of how Quinn got to UT in the first place. If there's even a modicum of truth to the Double Eagle NIL war and resulting package, given that and all of the above, I don't see any way Card starts a game this year (absent colossal QE faceplant, or injury). 

[JFKFC 4897]

19 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

 The only joy you seem to find is shitting on players, which is pretty odd way of expressing yourself as a Texas fan 

We have many incredible players. I value them. So much so, that I am very frustrated when liabilities are not replaced via the transfer portal and our elite players have crap seasons for this reason. I have high hopes for DTD. I wish we had brought in another contributor at LB via the TP. 

[lilMAC25 3838]

2 hours ago, closetojumping said:

I think they did a poor job of framing what their intent was, but I believe they were just presenting what the DC would look like before the practices, therefore the guys that weren't here in the spring wouldn't be on the two-deep until at least one workout. 

I hope that is what they were doing, because there isn't a chance in hell that SGW is ahead of Campbell and others by La Monroe. 

I also enjoyed the part where they listed Hudson Card first. @closetohumping no doubt popped a chubby. In reality, I expect Seven Loss Steve to name Ewers the starter after the first scrimmage. He doesn't need to wait, as Card isn't going anywhere, and he can end the charade so everyone can get on the same page quickly. As well, Ewers didn't get hooked up for a lot of NIL support to sit on the sidelines while Hudson Card throws pick sixes with his panicked eyes bugging out against Bama.

I’m expecting BOTH guys to throw pick 6s vs Bama.

 

🤷🏼‍♂️ 

[Codaxx 5912]

7 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

 

 

 

context, Son. You missing the part about struggling to make reads, hasnt put it together, and cant stay healthy. 

Edited August 1, 2022 by Codaxx

[JFKFC 4897]

6 minutes ago, Codaxx said:

You missing the part about struggling to make reads, hasnt put it together, and cant stay healthy. 

Why do you always shit on our players? 

[Tex Pete 20578]

1 hour ago, Codaxx said:

I am conflicted. I dont want to see that happen, but God I would love to see the Surly meltdown if it did. 

How about no?!

The Revenge of Shawn Watson- Notre Dame game in Charlie's second season nearly killed my support/interest for Texas Football. I can't go through it yet again.

[derpyhorndog 2577]

7 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Same here.  This seems as logical as anything I can think of per the balancing act of everyone involved.

What "balancing act" are you referring to? Keeping Card in the boat? I fail to see how throwing him the bone of starting the first two games keeps him onboard for the 2023 season. Is riding the bench for ~8 games supposed to give him the confidence to he can compete for 2023 starter, while riding it for ~10 games wouldn't?

If the "balancing act" is throwing him that bone so he remains engaged enough to be a competent backup if called upon, I suppose that's more understandable (even if I wouldn't think the bone is worth the marrow). Though if he truly wants to be the 2023 starter for a P5 program post-transfer, personal interests alone should motivate that. 

[Tex Pete 20578]

5 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

Why do you always shit on our players? 

From my cheap seats, they're usually shitting on themselves.

[BERT 4394]

49 minutes ago, JFKFC said:

Card will likely appear to be the better QB from the jump. I hope not...but...I think this is what Sark will do. 

 

I will not hesitate to shit on DO. He was terrible last year and will be a liability again this year. Keep praising him. I know that makes you feel better. 

You drinking already? 

[Red Five 41009]

I think we should give Casey Cain all first team reps over Neyor throughout the summer and through the first two weeks of the season. Just because. Reasons, or something. 

[Knoxtnhorn 6072]

5 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

What "balancing act" are you referring to? Keeping Card in the boat? I fail to see how throwing him the bone of starting the first two games keeps him onboard for the 2023 season. Is riding the bench for ~8 games supposed to give him the confidence to he can compete for 2023 starter, while riding it for ~10 games wouldn't?

If the "balancing act" is throwing him that bone so he remains engaged enough to be a competent backup if called upon, I suppose that's more understandable (even if I wouldn't think the bone is worth the marrow). Though if he truly wants to be the 2023 starter for a P5 program post-transfer, personal interests alone should motivate that. 

I was just speaking to Sark having to balance fan expectations, NIL bigwigs who helped get QE here, player expectations, and, ultimately, what is best for the team.  I guess I'm saying there's a lot of extraneous aspects to the decision.

 

[Had Enough 2089]

How about no?!
The Revenge of Shawn Watson- Notre Dame game in Charlie's second season nearly killed my support/interest for Texas Football. I can't go through it yet again.

What about if he just gets the first series? The reactions would be awesome.

[derpyhorndog 2577]

1 minute ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

I was just speaking to Sark having to balance fan expectations, NIL bigwigs who helped get QE here, player expectations, and, ultimately, what is best for the team.  I guess I'm saying there's a lot of extraneous aspects to the decision.

All of those weigh towards QE starting Week 1, IMO, though point taken/understood. 

[Knoxtnhorn 6072]

4 minutes ago, derpyhorndog said:

All of those weigh towards QE starting Week 1, IMO, though point taken/understood. 

Completely agree.  Just wondering how much suffering Sark is comfortable with per Ewers against Bama.

[Yuk 1572]

50 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Completely agree.  Just wondering how much suffering Sark is comfortable with per Ewers against Bama.

There will be about a half a quarter while it's a close game that will be good for him if he can come out of it healthy. Hudson can have the 4th quarter to refine his game. And his game is pretty much trying to escape to the right, not keeping his eyes downfield, and making either an ill-advised throw over the middle or running out of bounds a yard and half from the sticks.

[closetojumping 62918]

1 hour ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

I was just speaking to Sark having to balance fan expectations, NIL bigwigs who helped get QE here, player expectations, and, ultimately, what is best for the team.  I guess I'm saying there's a lot of extraneous aspects to the decision.

 

I don't follow your logic here. It presumes there is a team preference for Card and there isn't. The only people actively rooting for Hudson Card to start this season are closetohumping, Lake Travis honks, Hudson Card and his family, and Louisiana Monroe, Alabama, and UTSA. There's no balancing act when it comes playing the best and most heralded player at a position. 

[closetojumping 62918]

55 minutes ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Completely agree.  Just wondering how much suffering Sark is comfortable with per Ewers against Bama.

 

1 minute ago, Yuk said:

There will be about a half a quarter while it's a close game that will be good for him if he can come out of it healthy. Hudson can have the 4th quarter to refine his game. And his game is pretty much trying to escape to the right, not keeping his eyes downfield, and making either an ill-advised throw over the middle or running out of bounds a yard and half from the sticks.

Everyone is writing the Bama game off as a major blowout. The game is at home. Texas has elite offensive talent and an elite offensive playcaller. They're not spending the offseason working up an approach to Louisiana Monroe. Bama basically sucked on the road last year. 

This Bama game is going to be a prime opportunity for "Why Texas Stomps a Mudhole In Alabama's Ass" treatise, and you all are going to fucking deserve it.

[Slacks 6898]

3 hours ago, closetojumping said:

 I wind up getting trapped paying for babysitters and shit with my venmo. 

Is that what they're calling it now? 

[immamac 43373]

1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

 

Everyone is writing the Bama game off as a major blowout. The game is at home. Texas has elite offensive talent and an elite offensive playcaller. They're not spending the offseason working up an approach to Louisiana Monroe. Bama basically sucked on the road last year. 

This Bama game is going to be a prime opportunity for "Why Texas Stomps a Mudhole In Alabama's Ass" treatise, and you all are going to fucking deserve it.

But what if they win and then lose 6 in a row again?