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24 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

He’s too arrogant to be sad, he’s convinced he is going to reset the narativ. 
 

little does he know the narrative is being reset that he is a stupid dipshit. 

That’s not a reset on the narrative that’s the way it’s always been. 

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Thanks for the thoughts. The original HWH team getting the original IP out into the open and getting the longform IRS approval were instrumental in all of this. That's @SquishMitten @RGBIII @SydneyCar

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Outside of unifying all initiatives under one umbrella, which wasn't a small feat for the parties involved, there are two really big things here: 1) All players in all sports will be making money

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I went to the tournament and the gala. Kind of obligated on it and to pay for it, or part of it. It was all well done and a ton of money was raised. We’d committed to a nut for this new cycle for full

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On 7/19/2022 at 1:58 PM, UDontKnow said:

Cry more Kirby! I hope you cried all the way back to Athens from San Antonio. The bag game is dead!

https://www.espn.com/college-football/story/_/id/34267988/georgia-bulldogs-coach-kirby-smart-worried-college-football-players-getting-too-much-too-fast-nil

 

In reference to, 

https://247sports.com/Player/Jaheim-Singletary-46082114/

Unconfirmed, of course...

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21 hours ago, RGBIII said:

I have some real question about this. It’s obviously for profit and it’s run by Aaron Murray the old Georgia qb who is doing the same thing at other schools. It’s ingenious honestly as a for profit model, also gives serious shady vibes

I think you're mixing up Austin NIL Club with Burnt Orange Heroes. Murray is involved with the latter I believe.

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On3 exclusive: Top recruits open up about NIL’s influence

Jeremy Crabtree•about 1 hour

Article written by:Jeremy Crabtree

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No topic has dominated the discussion around college football recruiting over the past year more than NIL.

Starting on July 1, 2021, NCAA rules allowed college-student athletes to profit off their Name, Image and Likeness for the first time in history. But on the high school level, it’s been a piecemeal situation. Currently, only 14 athletic associations allow high school athletes to profit off their NIL without losing their eligibility.

Even with the fragmentation, NIL has become one of the most polarizing topics on the recruiting trail. Nobody will ever forget Alabama head coach Nick Saban’s claim that Texas A&M “bought every player on their team” with NIL deals. And other coaches across the country, including Penn State’s James Franklin, have suggested over and over that college recruiters can’t compete against a lucrative NIL deal. Furthermore, many coaches say NIL has become the ultimate recruiting tool through “pay-for-play” deals.

There have been plenty of people talking about NIL over the past year. But one voice has been missing from the dialogue – the high-profile recruits themselves.

That’s why On3 deployed an exclusive survey in June and July to get honest and unfiltered feedback from star high-school prospects about how NIL impacts their recruitments. On3 surveyed 85 of the players ranked in the top 200 of the On3 Consensus. On3 asked the prospects a series of 11 questions with additional follow-up queries based on their initial responses. The survey received responses from prospects in the top 25 talent-producing states in the country, with a proportional concentration from top talent states like Texas, Florida, California, Georgia and Louisiana.

On3 also conducted follow-up interviews after the results were tabulated for additional analysis. We gave the recruits anonymity so they could speak freely on the subject.

It’s truly the first time recruiting observers get an inside view of how five and four-star prospects – the future stars of college football – view NIL and its impact on their recruitments.

On3 will highlight the key results from the survey in this story. But throughout the rest of the week, On3 goes in-depth on some of the most noticeable results from the survey and follow-up interviews.

30% of top recruits open to taking NIL deal over perfect fit

The first survey question focused on whether or not recruits would be willing to go to a school that isn’t a perfect fit from a football or academic standpoint for a NIL deal.

Thirty percent of the recruits surveyed said they would be willing to go to a school that’s not a perfect fit for a NIL deal. An example of some of the players that responded yes to this question included a pair of highly-ranked quarterbacks, multiple defensive ends and receivers from Florida, a couple of defensive backs from Texas, several defenders from Georgia, and a handful of defensive backs each from Alabama, Mississippi and Louisiana.

While the 30% result is significant, several recruiters believe prospects might not have been truly honest in answering that question.

“I’d have to think that number is probably around 50-50,” a Pac-12 coordinator told On3. “It’s no longer about culture. We have kids come to our school on a visit and say, ‘We love you. Love you, coach. Love your scheme. It’s a great fit. But what can you offer?’”

NIL ranks in middle when it comes to deciding

On3 also asked the 85 prospects to rank where NIL factors in when making their college decision. On a scale from one to 10 – with 10 being the highest – 22.9% of the prospects said NIL ranked right in the middle at a five. After that 15.7% said it ranked as a seven, 13.3% ranked it as a three and 10.8% ranked it as an eight.

All in all, 57% of the recruits said NIL ranked as a five or higher in their decision. This type of data indicates NIL is definitely playing a factor on the recruiting trail.

Coaching staff, NFL development more important than NIL

However, another survey question maybe gives us a better indication of just where NIL stands in top recruits’ decision-making process.

On3 asked the 85 prospects to rank in order of importance what they care most about when picking a school. The overwhelming top response was coaching staff and NFL development. From there, academics were second, scheme fit/early playing time was third, tradition/history was fourth, facilities were fifth, NIL was sixth and distance from home was seventh.

“That’s actually a pretty good thing to see,” an SEC recruiter told On3. “I think these results show that, yes, NIL is important with a lot of these top guys. But maybe there’s actually some hope that traditional recruiting factors are still important.”

31% of recruits have been contacted by a collective

Collectives in NIL have become lightning rods in college athletics over the past six months. Coaches say NIL disguises “pay-for-play” deals choreographed by collectives. Collectives are groups of boosters that pool funds to help facilitate NIL deals for athletes. Coaches say the groups are using money to persuade recruits and target players on other college teams.

With that in mind, it is interesting to see that 31.8% of the recruits surveyed say they have been contacted by a collective to do a NIL agreement with them. Many of the prospects that responded yes to this question would not reveal what schools the collectives represented.

Additionally, a highly touted offensive player that responded yes said he received an offer for “$3.7 million” from a collective. On3 has not been able to verify the claimed offer.

Moreover, 7.4% of the recruits that responded said they asked for more money from a collective.

An overwhelming majority of the recruits – 90.6% – said coaches have not put them in contact with collectives. However, it’s important to keep in mind in most states it’s not permissible for college coaches to directly or indirectly arrange for collectives to provide compensation to a student-athlete through NIL. However, that is quickly changing in some states thanks to new laws that have been repealed or amended. So, this might be a question to revisit later on down the road.

Recruits are talking to each other about NIL

Another fascinating result from the survey is that 64.7% of the recruits said they are talking with other recruits about NIL deals. Plus, 38.2% of the recruits said they are comparing their NIL offers with other players they talk with.

Those results seem to make a lot of sense when looking additionally at the responses to the question – how do recruits figure out what they’re worth when it comes to NIL deals?

A large majority of the recruits said they were unsure of how to calculate their worth from a NIL standpoint. Multiple mentioned they use the On3 NIL Valuation as a guide to gauge their value. But many said they turn to their peers for support.

“All of us top guys talk, so we know what everyone is getting,” a highly ranked Texas offensive recruit said. “We can use that knowledge piece to determine our own value by comparison.”

Additional NIL recruit survey results

Only 11.8% of the recruits say they are working with a lawyer on a NIL contract. Of the recruits that said yes, 80% said they reached out to a lawyer on their own instead of the lawyer reaching out to them or their family.

With NIL restrictions different all over the map in high school, some prospects have made moves to different states. However, 80% of the recruits surveyed said they would not be willing to move to a different state to sign a NIL deal while in high school.

Similarly, 85.7% of the recruits surveyed said they would not be willing to reclassify or skip their senior season of high school football to sign a NIL deal.

 

Pretty interesting article and survey.

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13 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Pretty interesting article and survey.

Good article. One issue with the survey is there's probably not 50 guys worth a guaranteed, large NIL deal per class. Many of these kids answering these questions aren't the one's being offered mid six figure and seven figure deals.

In the state of Texas for 2023:

1. Anthony Hill

2. David Hicks

3. Rueben Owens (not counting the possible off the field issues)

I'd say those are the 2 or 3 worth big deals. 

And there's a small group of players below those three worth some coin as well. (Cook, Muhammad, Hunt, etc.)

For the majority of college prospects in the P5 landscape, I think the survey holds true.

But it's the type of prospects I mentioned above that win championships. It's hard to win period, at a blueblood, if you're not landing them.

I think we are heading to a point where players will be paid compensation directly from the schools. It's one of the reasons for all the consolidation right now. It's probably the only fair way to do it.

 

 

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8 minutes ago, kilroydos said:

Announced today, lots of player involvement, it seems?

 

These NIL clubs are a giant fucking scam. Every single school will have one until every kid realizes how big of a scam it is. The kids at texas were promised that they would sell 4000 subscriptions to theirs, lets check where they are currently at shall we....

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They also all get a completely even cut of the money between the players while the company takes 20%!!!!!!! Its $200 per pass so quick math tells me $70k has been paid in so far so the company has made $14k and $56k to the players, which means these kids have made about $650 total off this....SCAM! 

 

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14 minutes ago, RGBIII said:

These NIL clubs are a giant fucking scam. Every single school will have one until every kid realizes how big of a scam it is. The kids at texas were promised that they would sell 4000 subscriptions to theirs, lets check where they are currently at shall we....

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They also all get a completely even cut of the money between the players while the company takes 20%!!!!!!! Its $200 per pass so quick math tells me $70k has been paid in so far so the company has made $14k and $56k to the players, which means these kids have made about $650 total off this....SCAM! 

 

they are rolling out the A&M version of this today it looks like

College Station NIL club: https://www.collegestationnilclub.com/

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we will see how many of these NIL Clubs exist this time next year. guessing not many based on your math above.

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6 minutes ago, NoName said:

they are rolling out the A&M version of this today it looks like

College Station NIL club: https://www.collegestationnilclub.com/

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we will see how many of these NIL Clubs exist this time next year. guessing not many based on your math above.

These were designed to make a profit, they dont care about school or player. Every school will have one and see how many suckers will buy them, should dry up next year but then there will be some auto renewals that will piss people off and eventually it will just be some lesser players signing up to do it and make a little extra cash for some tweets and the fans wont even pay attention as it fades into oblivion

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On 7/25/2022 at 12:00 PM, LTtxfan said:

 

 

Alabama to start selling player NIL merchandise in Bryant-Denny Stadium

ZACH BARNETT              JUL 25, 2022

It doesn't exactly take Warren Buffett to spot this business opportunity.

You're in the concourse of Bryant-Denny Stadium, surrounded by kids and misguided adults in crimson No. 9 jerseys with no name on the back. You make your way to the stands, where Bryce Young stars in the No. 9 jersey. Yet, Young receives the same cut of the profits as you -- none.

That will soon change at Bryant-Denny and, one assumes, many other stadia around college football.

On Monday, Alabama announced the creation of The Authentic, a Fanatics-partnered store that will produce Nike jerseys with player NOBs (names on back) will cut players in on the action. Here's the official verbiage from Alabama:

The expanded partnership will allow the University to capitalize on Fanatics merchandising platforms to create, promote, and distribute Alabama merchandise featuring the name, image, and likeness (NIL) rights of current Crimson Tide student-athletes. As a cornerstone of the new agreement, Fanatics will launch The Authentic, the first-ever retail team store to be opened inside Bryant-Denny Stadium. Expected to launch during the upcoming 2022 college football season, the new, one-of-a-kind fan shop powered by Fanatics will feature a significant assortment of officially licensed team apparel and student-athlete NIL merchandise, including customized Nike player jerseys, customized name and number t-shirts, headwear, official game-used memorabilia, on-demand digital trading cards from Topps, and more.

This isn't a collective that seems to exist on paper and nowhere else, and it doesn't reward recruits and transfers while passing over current players, thereby passing by the potentially adversarial entanglements of the new NIL era: player and school competing for the same donor dollars, or player against player. 

In other words, it's easy to see why Alabama hopped on board so forcefully.

The Authentic retail space will also create innovative engagement opportunities for Crimson Tide student-athletes to provide autographed memorabilia, conduct fan meet and greets, and conduct social media marketing to support sales of their NIL merchandise. Fanatics will work with OneTeam Partners in securing group licensing rights for activation for NIL rights on merchandise, in addition to separate marketing and autographs partnerships.

Additionally, the Alabama Athletics Department, with its partnership with Nike, will provide on-field performance products and specific fan merchandise for the Crimson Tide's Athletics programs, including authentic and replica jerseys, headwear, and apparel.

Obviously, it remains to be see how big a cut Young will get for every No. 9 jersey in the stands, but this is a no-brainer solution for Alabama, and for every other program with jerseys to sell. 

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On 8/3/2022 at 7:18 PM, LTtxfan said:

 


There’s also Tuberville and Manchin gathering information to put together their own bill. Manchin is best friends with Saban apparently since grade school. Saban even endorsed him in a TV ad in 2018. 

I doubt it will fare any better than the other bills being put forward, but it will likely be narrower and address NIL specifically without getting into other issues like the Athlete Bill of Rights does. 

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4 hours ago, SL Xpress said:


There’s also Tuberville and Manchin gathering information to put together their own bill. Manchin is best friends with Saban apparently since grade school. Saban even endorsed him in a TV ad in 2018. 

I doubt it will fare any better than the other bills being put forward, but it will likely be narrower and address NIL specifically without getting into other issues like the Athlete Bill of Rights does. 

to get political but not partisan, by what right are they putting forth these bills? I could see maybe them putting rules on the public colleges offer lifetime scholarships and unlimited transfers and the like, but wouldn't that not apply to private schools?

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2 minutes ago, Viper said:

to get political but not partisan, by what right are they putting forth these bills? I could see maybe them putting rules on the public colleges offer lifetime scholarships and unlimited transfers and the like, but wouldn't that not apply to private schools?

It would get tested in court, but they do have the power to pull federal funding for any of the schools who don't meet the guidelines.  Not sure how popular pulling Science grants would be for universities who didn't follow athletic rules.

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SMU's got that kind of money, huh?

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SMU sits in the heart of the Park Cities. They have money falling off the trees, there. Of course they have that kind of money. 

David Stanley out front shoulda told ya.

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UCLA QB Dorian Thompson-Robinson shares NIL success with teammates (on3.com)

 

"Thanks largely to the star quarterback’s nearly double-digit NIL deals, Thompson-Robinson was able to rent out a yacht last week. He took the entire offensive unit on a boat ride ahead of fall camp – all on his tab with money generated from NIL."

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